Sex and education, cultural, status level

[jb]

If you have experience in the area,,, why do you propose the question here?  That seems strange to me.

[ScottinCrimea]

One thing to keep in mind when you try to assess a RW's willingness to hop into bed or try to assure yourself that you will have someone with a high sex drive is that it's nearly impossible to judge during this type of dating process.  It's just not a normal scenario and very different from the real life you will face after marriage.  I remember one acquaintance who thought he was marrying a nympho and was surprised when things slowed down a lot after marriage.  When he asked his wife why, she told him that when he came to visit, that was like vacation, that was not real life.

I was just hearing about some studies that found that the higher a woman's stress level the less she will want and enjoy sex.  That's one of the disparities between men and women.  Men use sex to relieve stress, women must have the stress relieved before they want sex.  In other terms, for men, sex will settle the argument.  For women, you have to settle the argument before having sex.

What Pike may be experiencing is older women who are not so stressed out about day to day life, the dating experience or the consequences of having sex.  It may have something to do with how he arranges the visits or it may just have to do with the women he chooses to meet.

There is a lesson in all of this for the others who are farther along in the process.  The less stressful it is for her when she moves to the US, the better "it" will be.

[BC]

IMHE 'prime reproductive years' for women does not necessarily equate to 'sexually prime years' which seem to come a bit later, somewhere in the 40's+

fwiw

[Gator]

Let us not mix apples and oranges.  Pike is talking about sex with women for the first time, not sex with wives and girlfriends.

Sorry JB, you are not qualified to ask a question because according to Pike you do not have an active sex life, whatever he means by "active" (multiple partners?).

I think he has me in the same category; however, I will add a comment:

Pike in your approach of assuming that "chemistry, attraction, etc." are the same at both levels of education, culture and status, I believe the following will occur with regard to the "high" level of women (I have no experience with the "low" level).

If "chemistry, attraction, etc." are good, you will have sex soon enough.

If bad, you will never have sex.

My guess for the "low" level is that a man will have sex if chemistry is good, and if bad still vey possible dependent upon what gifts he presented her, how desperate she is, her hidden agenda, etc.

[Gator]

IMHE 'prime reproductive years' for women does not necessarily equate to 'sexually prime years' which seem to come a bit later, somewhere in the 40's+

For many women the 40s are referred to as the "golden years". I think most of this results from self-awareness, removing past inhibitions, wrong man, etc.  The young ones today are on fire according to my sons.

[jb]

Sorry JB, you are not qualified to ask a question because according to Pike you do not have an active sex life, whatever he means by "active" (multiple partners?).

Gator,

You are, of course quite right, I do not have multiple partners.  However if you were to ask Etna as to the "activity" level, I think you might get an ear full,,, she still thinks I'm pretty depraved.

All I was trying to get across is the simple notion that sex isn't what holds two people together, after that we can all go suck eggs.

[Gator]

Agree JB.  Sex is important, yet friendship, companionship, and aligned goals are even more important.

My opinion,

GOOD SEX WILL NOT SAVE A BAD RELATIONSHIP.

However, I also feel that,

BAD SEX WILL EVENTUALLY END AN OTHERWISE GOOD RELATIONSHIP.

[WmGO]

Well, based on everything I have read here, the REAL question is HOW do you know if the FSUW is NOT a nympho sex maniac?    Scott mentioned a hard luck story. What can a man do, or what clues can he discern to keep himself from falling victim to that situation?      What can the FSUW tell us that will be useful in identifying *pretenders* in this area? Inquiring minds (not me of course) want to know. 

[Lily]

Probably her previous sexual experience could bring some lights on her being a nympho maniac or not, as well as the situation in her family when she was a kid...but I can hardly imagine anyone starting interrogating her about this at the early stage of relations 

[William3rd]

Good sex is sauce for the goose in a relationship. . . . Chemistry- ahhh yesss

[mirror]

The most of women  will don't go to the bed in first meeting with unknown man.

[ScottinCrimea]

I think what men want is a virgin until they meet her and a nympho after.  Unfortunately, sometimes they get the reverse.

[Mamma D]

this may help put this issue in perspective....

 URL: http://english.pravda.ru/society/family/90001-adultery-0

Mamma D

[KenC]

Momma,
Good article and right on point!
KenC

[Pike]

I can relate to the Pravda article re the Japanese attitude.  Recently there has been an large increase in the incidence of teenage girls performing sex acts on men in public restrooms in Japan.  Apparently they have an increased need for cash flow to cover cell phone expenses, music for Ipods, etc.

I was discussing a newpaper article about this with an adult Japanese woman.  She said: "Yes, it is terrible because the girls are wearing their school uniforms, thus bringing disgrace to the school!!"