What is it social skills in the West?

[mirror]

I'd like to ask this question only for good understanding this subject. I guess western social skills are different from Russian.

Especially I'd like to ask about male's behavior toward women.

1) Can married man go out for a coffee with other woman?
2) Can man who have a relationship with a woman go out for a coffee with other woman?
3) Can man who have long distance relationship with woman from another country go out for a coffee with another woman?

[Kuna]

Although I can see the repeat of an old theme I will answer this...

1) Can married man go out for a coffee with other woman?
It depends on the rules set within the married couples relationship.  I have female friends I would like to maintain contact with but I see no reason not to arrange catchups with my partner and my friend at the same time.

2) Can man who have a relationship with a woman go out for a coffee with other woman?
Isn't this the same question as the last one?

3) Can man who have long distance relationship with woman from another country go out for a coffee with another woman?
Again, this sounds remarkably similar to the last two questions but this time it's only a "long distance relationship".  It would be the same answer as the last two EXCEPT it would depend on the seriousness of the long distance relationship.

In relationships what is important is that BOTH partners needs are met.

I would be very wary to enter any relationship where my partners emotions were so fragile (or weak) for her to NOT "allow" me to maintain my friendships with my female friends.

I would prefer my partner to be involved in ALL of my friendships... but I would probably not commit (again) to a relationship where my partner demands things of me based on her feelings on insecurity or jealousy.

Kuna

[Rvrwind]

Mirror what you have asked in the above questions has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with social skills.
I refer you to the following:
6 Key Social Skills
Social skills are arguably the most important set of abilities a person can have. Human beings are social animals and a lack of good social skills can lead to a lonely life, contributing to anxiety and depression. Great social skills help you meet interesting people, get that job you want, progress further in your career and relationships.

Happily, like any skill, social strategies and techniques can be learned…

The main social skills are as follows:

1) The ability to remain relaxed, or at a tolerable level of anxiety while in social situations

Regardless of how skillful you are in social situations, if you are too anxious, your brain is functioning in way unsuited to speaking and listening. In addition, if your body and face give the unconscious message that you are nervous, it will be more difficult to build rapport with others.

2) Listening skills, including letting others know you are listening

There is little more attractive and seductive than being truly listened to. Good listening skills include:

Making 'I'm listening' noises - 'Uh-huh', 'really?', 'oh yes?' etc.
Feeding back what you've heard - "So he went to the dentist? What happened?"
Referring back to others' comments later on - "You know how you were saying earlier…"
Physical stillness, eye contact and attentiveness while the other person is talking.
3) Empathy with and interest in others' situations

A major part of social anxiety is self consciousness, which is greatly alleviated by focusing strongly on someone else. A fascination (even if forced at first) with another's conversation not only increases your comfort levels, it makes them feel interesting.

4) The ability to build rapport, whether natural or learned

Rapport is a state of understanding or connection that occurs in a good social interaction. It says basically "I am like you, we understand each other". Rapport occurs on an unconscious level, and when it happens, the language, speech patterns, body movement and posture and other aspects of communication can synchronise down to incredibly fine levels.

Rapport is an unconscious process, but it can be encouraged by conscious efforts.

Body posture 'mirroring', or movement 'matching'
Reflecting back language and speech, including rate, volume, tone, and words
Feeding back what you have heard, as in 2) above
5) Knowing how, when and how much to talk about yourself - 'self disclosure'

Talking about yourself too much and too early can be a major turn-off for the other party in conversation. Good initial small-talk is often characterised by discussion of subjects not personal to either party, or by an exchanging of personal views in a balanced way.

However, as conversations and relationships progress, disclosing personal facts (small, non-emotional ones first!) leads to a feeling of getting to know each other.

6) Appropriate eye contact

If you don't look at someone when you are talking or listening to them, they will get the idea that:

You are ignoring them

You are untrustworthy

You don't like the look of them (!)
This doesn't mean you have to stare at them. In fact, staring at someone while talking to them can give them the feeling you are angry with them. Keeping your eyes on them while you are listening, of course, is only polite.

Of course these are not hard-and-fast rules, eye contact for instance, varies between cultures, but in general, practicing these will improve your social skills if you find social situations difficult.

Those are the six main ones however thee are others of varying import as well.
As fot the questions that you asked they have nothing to do with social skills & all 3 can be answered with the same answer:
It all depends on how secure you are in your relationship!
I like Kuna would not be involved with a woman who is so insecure that everytime I leave her sight she thinks I am bedding women. If that were the case & she did think that way she would certainly not make it in a relationship with me. If a woman is that insecure it is her problem to deal with, not the man's. Trust should be given unconditionally untill good cause is found to retract it! ie:finding him in a true relationship or compromising situation with another woman. Otherwise it is mere speculation & unfounded jealousy!
JMHO

[MaxxumUSA]

I'd like to ask this question only for good understanding this subject. I guess western social skills are different from Russian.

Especially I'd like to ask about male's behavior toward women.

Mirror,

I answer for the benefit of you and other FSUW here.

1) Can married man go out for a coffee with other woman?
This depends on the woman.  For instance, I have women friends where there are not now NOR HAVE EVER been any sexual relationship.  I also have a mother.

For me, when married, I would tend to say no.  I don't want coffee with a woman other than my wife.

2) Can man who have a relationship with a woman go out for a coffee with other woman?

Same answer.  For me I am just as faithful when in a relationship as when married.  Same rules apply for me.

3) Can man who have long distance relationship with woman from another country go out for a coffee with another woman?

Again...  Even though I am engaged and my Elena is over 5,000 miles away I live my life as a man that is engaged to be married.  I am completely faithful.


Now...  about the friend thing.  A woman friend of mine has cancer.  We have been friends for many years.  We have never had sex nor will that ever happen with us.  We are only friends.  Close friends.  She has limited time on earth so we wanted to spend time together.  Saturday we decided to get together at her place.  She cooked dinner and we played cards with friends and drank.  I did not want to drink and drive so I stayed the night at her place.  Elena did not get upset as I explained this to her.  By the way...  my friend has a live in boyfriend so they slept in her room and I slept on the recliner in the living room.

And of course there is my mom.  I'm not a momma's boy but my mother is part of my life.  Yesterday we went out for a glass of wine for her, and I had a beer.

Lastly I have another friend.  She is an ex-girlfriend.  We are also close friends.  BUT...  when I am in a relationship with a woman, I do not hang out with her.  Not because anything will happen, but more because I am faithful and I feel it might cause my current girlfriend discomfort and possibly pain.

I believe when in a relationship with a woman that she knows she is the only source of romantic love I am seeking.  It's important to me that she knows this because quite simply it is true.  I'm old fashioned that way and I only want, and only need one woman to share my life with romantically.

[mirror]

Thanks for all answers. But I'd like to ask farther.

If this woman (friend) writes to your girlfriend ( or wife)  after "friendly" meeting for coffee ...we were walking and he kept his arm around my shoulder, he bought flowers to me...and similar things what does it mean?

1) she doesn't know what is it social skills despite of she is western woman?
2) was this meeting not "friendly"meeting?
3) what do you think can not  similar situation  happen?

[Kuna]

Thanks for all answers. But I'd like to ask farther.

If this woman (friend) writes to your girlfriend ( or wife)  after "friendly" meeting for coffee ...we were walking and he kept his arm around my shoulder, he bought flowers to me...and similar things what does it mean?

1) she doesn't know what is it social skills despite of she is western woman?
2) was this meeting not "friendly"meeting?
3) what do you think can not  similar situation  happen?

My honest opinion is that you appear obsessed and you're abusing the use of RWD by airing your personal issues again!

Take a pill and have a lie down... when you wake up have a vodka and a lie down...  if you're still tempted to post here have both and have a lie down...

Good grief... I guess you and the AD girls are STILL obsessing over this.  Of course you're aware a new poster called "Paris" just slandered one of our members again.  I hope whoever you end up with knows what you're like... send them here to read your posts before they waste any time on you.

[mirror]

My honest opinion is that you appear obsessed and you're abusing the use of RWD by airing your personal issues again!

Take a pill and have a lie down... when you wake up have a vodka and a lie down...  if you're still tempted to post here have both and have a lie down...

Good grief... I guess you and the AD girls are STILL obsessing over this.  Of course you're aware a new poster called "Paris" just slandered one of our members again.  I hope whoever you end up with knows what you're like... send them here to read your posts before they waste any time on you.

sorry,

I didn't read any posts of Paris.But now I'd like to read and to know what happened.

I asked about social skills not only for this example.I know as minimum two russian girls who had some misunderstanding with western ex-husbands in question  about social skills.
I asked because as I explained above it seems to me this place is different from Russian.
But I see Rvrwind ( as I see from his profile ) is russian man and has same view like WM have.Therefore your opinions are very important to me.

I try to understand why did these two girls ( and of course their ex-husbands) have problems? I knew these men too. They are not bad persons.And I'd like to help them .But how?
 
What you wrote about vodka...sorry, but I don't drink vodka at all. Pills? Yes, I take pills when I have a problem with a health like another people.

[Kuna]

Sofia,

Though I don't know why I bother here is your "new friend":

Hello
i am new to this board
But I would  like to start by asking this
What abt the male scammers?
This board as been severely disrupted by a male scammer by the name of Wiz
This man is a known sex tourist Visiting Ua and Ru many times a year
He has ruined boards such as  Brama(closed because of him) and TIU(travel in Ukraine)
he degenerates, spoiles , degrades, every single thing he touches
Why do you  put up with this man?

Sofia,

If ytou have two friends who are having problems with their husbands I can only tell you what we've learned here recently.

"Don't encourage them to post their personal lives on RWD"...

As for the rest of your post... I'm sorry, I don't believe you - but I don't need to explain why!

Kuna

[mirror]

Sofia,

Though I don't know why I bother here is your "new friend":


Sofia,

If ytou have two friends who are having problems with their husbands I can only tell you what we've learned here recently.

"Don't encourage them to post their personal lives on RWD"...

As for the rest of your post... I'm sorry, I don't believe you - but I don't need to explain why!

Kuna

I answered you in another place already.What about two my firends...they don't know this board. They both live abroad and we communicate time by time through telephone and we meet in Russia when they have a vacations and of course  I don't know  full details.I can only guess.Therefore I'd like to know what to advice  when we have a coversations about relationship and discusses. What is wrong with that?

[wiz]

MaxxumUSA

Again...  Even though I am engaged and my Elena is over 5,000 miles away I live my life as a man that is engaged to be married.  I am completely faithful.

Lastly I have another friend.  She is an ex-girlfriend.  We are also close friends.  BUT...  when I am in a relationship with a woman, I do not hang out with her.  Not because anything will happen, but more because I am faithful and I feel it might cause my current girlfriend discomfort and possibly pain.

I believe when in a relationship with a woman that she knows she is the only source of romantic love I am seeking.  It's important to me that she knows this because quite simply it is true.  I'm old fashioned that way and I only want, and only need one woman to share my life with romantically.

Your fiancé is 5,000 miles away and if you go out for a drink with your ex-girlfriend how would she know?

Of course she will not know about it but it is your own conscience and honesty that will make you to tell her about your meeting with your ex-girlfriend in advance or afterwards. If you are that honest and you know that nothing more will ever happen with your ex why shouldn’t your fiancé appreciate your honesty in telling her about your meeting and believe you that nothing more happen between you and your ex and why she should have objections and feel hurt?

On the opposite site if your fiancé does the same and tell you all about it why should you not believe her and appreciate her honesty?

We all know if any of the partners, in a long distance relationship, want to have sex with another person they can do it and will not be found out, but is our concience that stop us been unfaithful to the person we are in love with.

It just comes down to a matter of trust and if there is NO trust between the couple then the relationship is not based on firm grounds.

Rvrwind said: It all depends on how secure you are in your relationship!

Of course I agree with your last paragraph because that is how it should be but that should not necessary prevent you meeting platonic friends when you are honest and open to your long distance fiancé or girlfriend and tell her all about it!

Keeping these meetings secret one day it will come out and will cause problems to your relationship.

Kuna:

I would be very weary to enter any relationship where my partners emotions were so fragile (or weak) for her to NOT "allow" me to maintain my friendships with my female friends.

I would prefer my partner to be involved in ALL of my friendships... but I would probably not commit (again) to a relationship where my partner demands things of me based on her feelings on insecurity or jealousy.

I agree with kuna's comments too.

[MaxxumUSA]

MaxxumUSA

Your fiancé is 5,000 miles away and if you go out for a drink with your ex-girlfriend how would she know?

Of course she will not know about it but it is your own conscience and honesty that will make you to tell her about your meeting with your ex-girlfriend in advance or afterwards. If you are that honest and you know that nothing more will ever happen with your ex why shouldn’t your fiancé appreciate your honesty in telling her about your meeting and believe you that nothing more happen between you and your ex and why she should have objections and feel hurt?

On the opposite site if your fiancé does the same and tell you all about it why should you not believe her and appreciate her honesty?

We all know if any of the partners, in a long distance relationship, want to have sex with another person they can do it and will not be found out, but is our concience that stop us been unfaithful to the person we are in love with.

It just comes down to a matter of trust and if there is NO trust between the couple then the relationship is not based on firm grounds.

Rvrwind said: It all depends on how secure you are in your relationship!

Of course I agree with your last paragraph because that is how it should be but that should not necessary prevent you meeting platonic friends when you are honest and open to your long distance fiancé or girlfriend and tell her all about it!

Keeping these meetings secret one day it will come out and will cause problems to your relationship.

Kuna:
I agree with kuna's comments too.

Wiz,

I'm hesitant to answer because I'm afraid I might get caught in the middle of something between you and mirror.  I hope this is not the case in this thread.

However...  I will give her the benefit of my doubt and continue participating in this thread.  For now.

To answer your questions to me:

I think I can sum it up.  Basically there are females in my life.  I can break them down to a few categories.

1.  Family.   Mother, sisters.  <----  Obviously no problem doing anything I want with them.
2.  Long standing platonic female friends.
3.  Long standing platonic female friends that I would bed given the opportunity.
4.  Ex-Girlfriends and other women from the past.  NOT Platonic at all.
5.  New women met in day to day living.

I am a real man.  It is my nature to hunt.  It is my nature to attempt to bed women.  If ANYONE knows this, it is my Elena.  *Wink*

Now.  Consider having a drink with women from each of these categories:

1.  Obviously there is no problem with me taking my mother out for a beer.

2.  It might be damaging to the relationship to hang out too much with platonic female friends, so why do it?  For instance...  If I had lunch every day with a co-worker that was female although we were completely platonic, don't you think that would cause some despair?  I do think so I simply avoid that on a regular basis.  An occasional business meeting is different.

3.  Platonic women friends that I would bed if I were single...  Hmmm...  for instance, a woman friend you knew from years runs into you at a restaurant.  She reveals she has been divorced since you last seen her.  She makes it obvious she is available and invites you for a friendly drink.  I don't know about you Wiz...  but this is a dangerous situation.  Testosterone is a funny thing and the mind wanders when a few drinks get into the system.  For me it is better to avoid these situations all together.  And with good reason.  Number one I don't want to cause the woman I intend to marry any pain, confusion, or insecurity.  Number two it is better to avoid the temptation.

4.  Ex-Girlfriends.  Cut and dry...  no way.  It is very easy for two people that have had sex to have more sex.  Even if more sex did not occur, it is easy for my woman to have thoughts it might occur.  So I say point blank - NO.  If in a current relationship I don't have drinks with ex's.  These are called dates by the way.  If Elena revealed to me that she wanted to meet her Ex-boyfriend for a few drinks to catch up on old times...  Well...  I would be pissed.  Not because I'm insecure and not because I don't trust her.  It's HIM I don't trust.  And I would be pissed that she thinks he will not try to bed her.  Because she is a beautiful woman and most men would try.

5.  New women in life...  Well...  What good comes out of this?  Again, why cast any doubt on my intentions to be faithful to my woman?  Besides that, I am not interested in these new women romantically.  I don't want to be with other women.  Why do it?  I have my woman.


Mirror.

You asked about a situation where a man went with another woman, had drinks of some sort, had his arm around her, bought her flowers.  Umm...  you know and we all know the deal here.  This is a date.  Put the woman he is with in one of my categories.

The only time it is acceptable to buy flowers for another woman is:

1.  Grandma, Mom and sister on mothers day.
2.  Completely platonic friend when she is in hospital.

I can't think of another reason that is not romantic.

[El Rock]

More , no good questions  from someone who's intent is to insult us .
There is no reason this person needs to understand  anything about us .

This is becoming  some what discursive , the board

I'd like to ask this question only for good understanding this subject. I guess western social skills are different from Russian.

Especially I'd like to ask about male's behavior toward women.

1) Can married man go out for a coffee with other woman?
2) Can man who have a relationship with a woman go out for a coffee with other woman?
3) Can man who have long distance relationship with woman from another country go out for a coffee with another woman?

[wiz]

Wiz,

I'm hesitant to answer because I'm afraid I might get caught in the middle of something between you and mirror.  I hope this is not the case in this thread.

However...  I will give her the benefit of my doubt and continue participating in this thread.  For now.

To answer your questions to me:

I think I can sum it up.  Basically there are females in my life.  I can break them down to a few categories.

1.  Family.   Mother, sisters.  <----  Obviously no problem doing anything I want with them.
2.  Long standing platonic female friends.
3.  Long standing platonic female friends that I would bed given the opportunity.
4.  Ex-Girlfriends and other women from the past.  NOT Platonic at all.
5.  New women met in day to day living.

I am a real man.  It is my nature to hunt.  It is my nature to attempt to bed women.  If ANYONE knows this, it is my Elena.  *Wink*

Now.  Consider having a drink with women from each of these categories:

1.  Obviously there is no problem with me taking my mother out for a beer.

2.  It might be damaging to the relationship to hang out too much with platonic female friends, so why do it?  For instance...  If I had lunch every day with a co-worker that was female although we were completely platonic, don't you think that would cause some despair?  I do think so I simply avoid that on a regular basis.  An occasional business meeting is different.

3.  Platonic women friends that I would bed if I were single...  Hmmm...  for instance, a woman friend you knew from years runs into you at a restaurant.  She reveals she has been divorced since you last seen her.  She makes it obvious she is available and invites you for a friendly drink.  I don't know about you Wiz...  but this is a dangerous situation.  Testosterone is a funny thing and the mind wanders when a few drinks get into the system.  For me it is better to avoid these situations all together.  And with good reason.  Number one I don't want to cause the woman I intend to marry any pain, confusion, or insecurity.  Number two it is better to avoid the temptation.

4.  Ex-Girlfriends.  Cut and dry...  no way.  It is very easy for two people that have had sex to have more sex.  Even if more sex did not occur, it is easy for my woman to have thoughts it might occur.  So I say point blank - NO.  If in a current relationship I don't have drinks with ex's.  These are called dates by the way.  If Elena revealed to me that she wanted to meet her Ex-boyfriend for a few drinks to catch up on old times...  Well...  I would be pissed.  Not because I'm insecure and not because I don't trust her.  It's HIM I don't trust.  And I would be pissed that she thinks he will not try to bed her.  Because she is a beautiful woman and most men would try.

5.  New women in life...  Well...  What good comes out of this?  Again, why cast any doubt on my intentions to be faithful to my woman?  Besides that, I am not interested in these new women romantically.  I don't want to be with other women.  Why do it?  I have my woman.

I have queried you last 2 paragraphs as a general subject and there is nothing behind my comments to worry about. I have moved on and I do not need to discuss anything in public on my part.

I am a real man too and of course I will behave similar to you in certain circumstances and here is what I think about your numbered replies. I like to emphasize my answers apply only when you are in a relationship.

1.   No questions there and is an obvious answer.

2.   Nobody suggests that you go out or have a daily or frequent lunch with a female co-worker but the occasional telephone conversation, e-mail exchange, drink or lunch does not provide danger to your relationship if you are open and honest about it. It should be on the same lines as the business lunch you mention. For example I have a UA female friend who I met through work and who has a boyfriend in London and visits often here, every 2-3 months. We exchange the odd e-mails and when she comes to London we meet, have lunch and have a good chat. Her boyfriend who I spoke to him over the phone has no problem of us meeting and to be honest I do not really fancy that woman but she is a good company. I don’t think that should be a problem, especially when I advise my partner.

3.   I do not drink alcoholic drinks, only the occasional 1-2 whiskies. I mostly drink Coffee therefore I always have clear head and apart from a short hello, if I am in a relationship, I will avoid to accept any invitation because is obvious what is coming next and I would not want to endanger my relationship too.

4.   Same answer as above No3 “If I am in a relationship”. Yes it is easy and sometimes tempting if you still fancy your ex to accept an invitation and then destroy your relationship.

5.   If you have a woman in your life that you love then any other woman should not cross your mind and you avoid getting in any situation which will endanger your relationship. Of course you can say hello to the checking out girls at the supermarket or in any shop you visit and the flower girl you bought flowers for your darling. That does not mean you flirt them or want to have sex with them or by doing so you humiliate your woman who is next to you. Yes I agree you have the woman who you love dearly so why try anyone else?

Same rules I think apply for your woman too.

Unfortunately these simple rules of behaviour when you are in a relationship, as you must have found out, does not apply in Russia. There they have different and very restricted rules.

Of course we forgot to comment what happens in a social gathering, party etc. Can you say hello or chat to other females? Of course you can with our rules but watch out for the Russian style of behaviour. With their rules you cannot!

So when in Rome do as the Romans do!

[mirror]

Maxxum USA

Thank you for your answer.I think your woman can be secure with you. You will never have any problems with Elena and she is happy woman. It is my view.

[WmGO]

I will give my two cents based on what I think Mirror is getting at:

1. He shouldn't.
2. He shouldn't.
3. Maybe depending on exactly what the "relationship" is with the foreign woman. If it is a committed romantic relationship, no he shouldn't.

[Zadan]

1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Yes

Also, I think your question is about social norms--not social skills.  I frequently go out for lunch or coffee with different people every day from where I work. I might also go out with a neighbor or old friend, who may be female.  I see nothing wrong with that.

If I were in a committed relationship with a woman and it was her preference that I not do that--I wouldn't. I suspect your question has more to do with some specific situation, however, where there is more context to judge the appropriateness of what went on.

I've had girlfriends that had no problem with me being around any of her attractive friends for any reason, others who didn't want me around any other women at all, and some who were fine as long as I never spent much time with woman X (who for whatever reason, was perceived of as threatening to her). It all depends.

[WmGO]

I don't think Mirror's question has anything to do with having coffee with with momma, sister, work colleague, etc.......and yes, she is using the phrase "social skills" to mean social *ethics*.....

Mirror, ethics and morality differ widely in America. It is a big country with 300 million people...........and America today is not the same as America of yesterday when it comes to social mores...........*correct* social ethics is to treat your spouse/ girlfriend the way you would want to be treated and to avoid all appearance of impropriety...........modern relativistic thinking is to the effect that everything is a shade of grey........hope this helps you better understand America.............

[HiTech]

My take
1. He should not on a regular bases. She has no reason to be jealous if he does occasionally for good reasons.
2. Same
3. Same

The point is both people should be acting out of love ,giving and trust not selfishness mistrust and jealousy.

[wxman]

Mirror,

There are so many different answers because it is a individual moral decision and not a cultural idea. I for one would not insult my fiancee or my relationship doing such things behind her back. I would have coffee with my mother and sisters and that is it. Other people might have coffee with their co workers in a group which would contain both men and women. Americans do not care for the moral police telling them what is acceptable and what is not. It is not for me to judge others based on my morals, as each of us have different values. Some men may find it totally acceptable to have coffee with other women who are just friends. Other men might find that to be wrong.  It is their choice and my nose doesn't belong in their business.

[Rvrwind]

 

But I see Rvrwind ( as I see from his profile ) is russian man and has same view like WM have.Therefore your opinions are very important to me.

Now that is the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!!!

[Kuna]

Maxxum USA

Thank you for your answer.I think your woman can be secure with you. You will never have any problems with Elena and she is happy woman. It is my view.

Does no one see what this woman is doing???

Why isn't she banned or muted?



Mirror... a worthy woman DESERVES a worthy man.  Make what you want of that!

[wiz]

Mirror... a worthy woman DESERVES a worthy man.  Make what you want of that!

 

HiTech

The point is both people should be acting out of love ,giving and trust not selfishness mistrust and jealousy.

Absolutely... It should be, mature, unselflish and thrilling love and nothing else!

Jet
Not only jealouse but made sure and killed any small chances of reconciliation between us!
She achieved her revenge!


PS: As everybody guessed, the second time questions made specific reference to a personal instant of mine, as reported to her by my previous Ex=G/F, after our relationship was over. (pack of lies of course )

[Jet]

I'd like to ask this question only for good understanding this subject. I guess western social skills are different from Russian.

Especially I'd like to ask about male's behavior toward women.

1) Can married man go out for a coffee with other woman?
2) Can man who have a relationship with a woman go out for a coffee with other woman?
3) Can man who have long distance relationship with woman from another country go out for a coffee with another woman?

Let me spin this one around on you. My wife recently went to McDonald's for lunch with one of her male colleagues from the high school where she works.
She didn't mention it until she returned home in the evening. Should I get the divorce papers ready?

Thanks for all answers. But I'd like to ask farther.

If this woman (friend) writes to your girlfriend ( or wife)  after "friendly" meeting for coffee ...we were walking and he kept his arm around my shoulder, he bought flowers to me...and similar things what does it mean?

1) she doesn't know what is it social skills despite of she is western woman?
2) was this meeting not "friendly"meeting?
3) what do you think can not  similar situation  happen?

4) She was trying to make you jealous - and it worked 

[ScottinCrimea]

Good grief!  Let's not be using another thread to get back into the wiz/Sofia battle!

[wiz]

Good grief!  Let's not be using another thread to get back into the wiz/Sofia battle!

Scottin

I do not run any battles with Mirror and I speak in general terms like everybody else.
It is ONLY you who always refer any comments I make on the board to my recent relationship with Sofia. Get your tinted glasses off please. I am getting bored with you.



In the PS: I just gave the explanation that everybody had guessed anyway.