Anyone gotten any like this?

[Lily]

That's Lily's diplomatic way of saying that all those who DO have links, need not bother/wonder .

No Sandro... I just would wish more RWD members had their own faces as avatar, and had a link in CPs on a site where one could see their pictures and other info about them...

[Lily]

She "looks" high maintenance. Not only did she do a tropical island shoot at a studio, she has her legs spread open in a bikini shot at a beach and at a pool and dressed like a teenager in another photo teasingly taking off one strap as if she's starting to strip. And she wonders why she's attracting all the wrong men?   Either she knows what she's doing and knows what man she's trying to attract or she lacks the intelligence to figure out how to attract a family oriented man and less perverts. Simple, she would do better to find family oriented men with more modest photos.
http://freepersonals.ru/showProfile.da?id=252113&photo=15
http://freepersonals.ru/showProfile.da?id=252113&photo=11
http://freepersonals.ru/showProfile.da?id=252113&photo=10

If I chose to write hundreds of women again and used freepersonals, I would write this woman although she is 8 years older than me. That does not mean I will end up visiting her even though she asks. I give no credence to what is said in a profile and I do not judge photos as much as I do at the forum. I simply write to every woman I was attracted to without reading their profile and what their criteria is in a man. Then I let the correspondence of those interested in me determine who I was to visit and where I was to go. The most polite person I wrote to was a RW who sometimes modeled in Europe, and sometimes in lingere. She wanted me to visit her but she came in second to my fiancee.

I know a lot of people don't like letter writing but it is a tool and if used wisely, it will work, just as phone calls and meetings do.  

Mostly I agree with your observations about the woman Billy.

Suppose that *high maintenance* means that she spends much on her appearance. May be she does indeed. Obviously she takes great pride in her looks, but we never know how much she actually spends on them...

I looked her pictures up yesterday, and now she seems to have replaced a few of them. Quick job!
 
Also I agree with you that she could have done a completely different presentation of herself. Some pics that Billy mentioned don't speak good for her.

[Jazzyclassy]

There are tons of women like her

so what? they are not considered to be high maintenance, they are considered to be very lonely  and not successful in their family life, so what- she got nails and crazy make up , but when  she is putting up her profile on every possible crazyfreepersonals.com these nails and make up wont save her, if she is with prudish personality , none will live with her

Plus once again I noticed such a peculiar thing that western people tend to look only  on appearance they do not care who she is , maybe she is completely not compatible or evil or I do not know , but guys do not care as long as she got big boobs, nice ass, plastic surgery of her everything , short skirt opened blouse , those guys will shout their hearts out in order to defend her before such kinda fighters like me:)))))))) God I had so many foreign friends who were at first so so charmed with the appearance with the girls and then after sometime when they knew them much more closer they were regreting that they ever dated them. But at first when they meet such women they are ready to kill for them anybody... I never understood such behaviour

These profiles  on such sites are created to just fool people or the other people just wanna have fun, it is rare if you can meet a really brilliant person and  usually in his/her profile you wont find much  , maybe there will be only 1 pic and a little message about her/himself
At least these are my observations.

I understand it is very difficult to find somebody nice , but maybe people could meet up on friends sites or on some  nice forums , it is actually much more successful than to be on some crazyfreepersonals.com when you will be fooled around tortured and possibly scammed

[Gator]

BillyB,

You have studied all her photos.  There were too many for me.  As usual your splendid detective skills have found some photos that do not speak well for her character.  That just means she is cheap, but does not demonstarte that she is high maintenance.  I admit the two terms are not mutually exclusive.  maybe someone will write a glossary?

Jazzy,

You woke up this morning full of vinegar.  I wish you a good day. 

I do not recall anyone drooling over this woman.  What am I missing?

I think there are many nice people on the internet, both men and women, as well as some to avoid like the plague.  The issue to me is finding someone with whom life is interesting and fun.   And  boobs, ass, legs and other body parts that you mention are only a small part of the equation.  I rather live alone than with the wrong woman, even if she had a Playmate of the Month's body.

You mention plastic surgery.  Is this common in Moscow?

[SANDRO43]

Not exactly my type of art for the entrance to my house.

Phil, you'd have been even more uncomfortable in ancient Egypt then, where most houses displayed Bes at their entrances .

BTW, your reference to Pompeii is not completely apropos, volcanologically speaking, since Pompeii was destroyed by Vesuvius:

- Mt. Vesuvius erupts very rarely, but then all hell breaks loose
- Mt. Etna erupts about yearly, but it's mostly a display (steam cloud, ash, some not-too-dangerous lava flows)
- Mt. Stromboli is always erupting, but very sedately

I wonder if we have a Mrs. Vesuvius and a Mrs. Stromboli around, too ?

[Jazzyclassy]

    You mention plastic surgery.  Is this common in Moscow?                  

Oi  Gator they talk about it every now and then my colleage at work done the plastic surgery  cos she wanted to find some american guy over net she was 39 nice great woman much more beautiful than many in her age,  she had a little belly after giving birth to a child and she cut the belly , but her complex of being not attractive never faded away and you know whom she met instead of an american husband she dreamt of , she met 62 y.o guy who is working in the same building our company is situated

she is 40 now and he is 63

where is my antistress green tea with chocoladka:))))

I am just telling that they are propoganding these plastic surgeries to everyone , I am tired of this

[SANDRO43]

she met 62 y.o guy who is working in the same building our company is situated she is 40 now and he is 63

Considering how you say that, it sounds like a fate worse than death. Thank God I'm 64 .

[Jazzyclassy]

Considering how you say that, it sounds like a fate worse than death. Thank God I'm 64 .

Cos he might die in a few years cos he is having a high blood pressure and heart problems , he has no intentions to marry her , only gave her a ring and is so jealous about her talking with other men  even cos she needs the communication cos of her job, he hit her once she came to work in bruises her nose and her lips were like brown blue, so not a great prospective for a woman who is really strong and beautiful but she is absolutely lonely , she has no choice but to live with such guy cos she has a daughter who is 8 y.o. and none can help her with upbringing her , She got only her daughter no parents cos they died , her salary is very low, poor poor woman (((

She got into great credit thing with the bank cos she did the surgery for 100 or 150 000 rubles so each month she is paying like 3 000 rubles to the bank and her salary is like 12 000 rubles

[SANDRO43]

and had a link in CPs on a site

Tip: you need not go to CPs for that information, it's already available in those small icons under one's avatar.

[Turkey]

Plus once again I noticed such a peculiar thing that western people tend to look only  on appearance they do not care who she is , maybe she is completely not compatible or evil or I do not know , but guys do not care as long as she got big boobs, nice ass, plastic surgery of her everything , short skirt opened blouse ,

I think that there is some value of seeing someone's profile.  It's the beginning of the search process and as such holds value only as the start.  You are right that you can't have much depth with them.  But, I would say that is not what they were meant for.

One of the aspects of online dating that I find theoretically of great benefit is that you remove sex from what the first few dates would have been.  By this I  mean that if you spend time e-mailing/writing to each other over a few months without the complications of sex overhanging your communication, you can possibly have much more in depth conversations about both of your beliefs, goals and interests.  The profile helps to start that ball rolling by introducing people and allowing them to find individuals who are in general physically acceptable to both as well as to share some topics that will allow the individuals to narrow who their potential partners may be.

In regards to the quote above, I think that if you look at the vast majority of the comments on this site by WM regarding photos are usually made as evaluations of character.  They are generally not comments about, "ya she is sooo hot!  You gotta sleep with her".  They are more along the lines of "she's a scammer, she's too attractive and i've seen her on scam sites."  Or in this case, the points made have been of the character of the woman being high maintenance.  The conversation has not been about how sexy she is in a physical way, but rather the way she presents herself and the message she sends to the men who read her profile.

It's interesting to note that, the vast majority of FSUW on these dating sites are absolutely beautiful.  I don't think that most WM on this site are all that concerned with the question of how physically attractive the women are on the sites as most of them are very acceptable.  The question becomes (as indicated by this thread and others), whether or not this beautiful woman is 'for real'. 

By 'for real', I mean that the profile (and the photo) truly reflects her and what qualities she may have based upon the "message" she is sending with what she chooses to emphasize.  I would note, that I and I think many others, agree with Billy that having photos that are too sexy (such as bikini, underwear), are big negatives even if we do enjoy looking at them .  Others have pointed out that they just want to see 'normal' photos instead of the professional ones. 

I guess what i'm trying to say is that you're all beautiful, and when you see threads like this one, you should see them as honest efforts to 'get to know the woman' rather than perverts considering their next hunt.

[macman]

Of course I've got some input here; Sandro - Gator, thank you for the education and laughs too.

Plus once again I noticed such a peculiar thing that western people tend to look only  on appearance they do not care who she is , maybe she is completely not compatible or evil or I do not know , but guys do not care as long as she got big boobs, nice ass, plastic surgery of her everything , short skirt opened blouse ,

Now Jazzy - we men are not that superficial - we emotions too you know!

[Gator]

Cos he might die in a few years cos he is having a high blood pressure and heart problems , he has no intentions to marry her , only gave her a ring and is so jealous about her talking with other men  ... he hit her once she came to work in bruises her nose and her lips were like brown blue, so not a great prospective for a woman who is really strong and beautiful but she is absolutely lonely , she has no choice but to live with such guy cos she has a daughter who is 8 y.o. and none can help her with upbringing her , She got only her daughter no parents cos they died , her salary is very low, poor poor woman

Jazzy,

This story has been told by millions of RW ... So why did your colleague not try your approach and look outside Moscow?

 

[Gator]

Sandro,

You forgot to add to your list the once in a lifetime eruption...Mt. Menopausi.

[Jazzyclassy]

Jazzy,

This story has been told by millions of RW ... So why did your colleague not try your approach and look outside Moscow?

 

She tried, nobody is ready to come and meet her in Moscow , she met coward western men over the internet:(

[macman]

She tried, nobody is ready to come and meet her in Moscow , she met coward western men over the internet:(

JazzC,

Please expound what you mean by coward.  Is this men that play games, build relationships and never make the effort to travel? 

c ya
mm

[Jazzyclassy]

Mac

these were players and the guys who wrote her letters promising how great they would be together , she needs to come and meet them somewhere and then they were like oh you can not come ok I will come to you and you will be my wife and then after sometimes they were disappearing at all  and she never heard about them anymore , but once she went to that LL site again she saw some of them there again

[BillyB]

Suppose that *high maintenance* means that she spends much on her appearance. May be she does indeed. Obviously she takes great pride in her looks, but we never know how much she actually spends on them...

I looked her pictures up yesterday, and now she seems to have replaced a few of them. Quick job!
 

She does take care of her appearance and looks young for her age. And that's on reason I would write her and portray myself as a family oriented man. Maybe she would take a liking to me, maybe she doesn't really want a family oriented man but one won't find that out unless one contacts her. But I certainly won't jump on a plane just for her to go on a blind date to find that out.

She constantly updates her profiles to get to the front of freepersonals. Maybe she likes attention or maybe she's serious in her search.

Lily, Gator, actually I should have put more emphasis, not on the clothes she's wearing or poses she's in but the background of where she's at relating to why I think she looks high maintenance. Tropical location, beach, pool at possibly a 5 star hotel. She may not want guys to send her money and tickets but she may only marry a man with money once she makes her choice. Poor and average income guys need not apply to be her husband.

There are many family oriented women that can express their sexuality without showing pics of their crotch, in underwear, lingere. I'm not saying all women who show pics of themselves in underwear and bra has issues but most likely they do. Either they are naive and don't know what type of men they'll attract or they know exactly what type of man they want and probably they like all the attention those type of pics will bring in.

[Nando]

Lily, Gator, actually I should have put more emphasis, not on the clothes she's wearing or poses she's in but the background of where she's at relating to why I think she looks high maintenance. Tropical location, beach, pool at possibly a 5 star hotel. She may not want guys to send her money and tickets but she may only marry a man with money once she makes her choice. Poor and average income guys need not apply to be her husband.

There are many family oriented women that can express their sexuality without showing pics of their crotch, in underwear, lingere. I'm not saying all women who show pics of themselves in underwear and bra has issues but most likely they do. Either they are naive and don't know what type of men they'll attract or they know exactly what type of man they want and probably they like all the attention those type of pics will bring in.

Couldn't elaborate better then you Billyb.
Yesterday I was looking to a profile of a 35 year woman with a daughter. She was almost naked like a stripper and we can see her breast but she claims to be a very family oriented woman. She is a teacher, but of course due to the pictures I would never write to her. How is she going to attract? Well sex tourists off course

[phantom]

Now the scammer is asking for my full name and street address and the nearest airport, her hair is long again in this picture she just sent.  Probably wants the information to use for identity theft.

[macman]

these were players

Hey Jazz - by the way my favorite female (to date) is named Jaz - maybe I'll tell you her entire name one day.  HOWEVER, a coward is someone that shows great fear in the face of danger or pain.  These "boys" that were playing with your friend probably don't have the means (money) or intellect to pull off traveling abroad.  I hate to say this, however, IMHO, 95% of the "boys" don't make the trip; I will deliver to the RWD some bona fide facts and figures from an INS survery that I stumbled on while researching IMBRA.

Now for my Jaz-me-taz St. lady of the Marsh

Only down south - gota love it.

mm

[Jazzyclassy]

Yeah i understand they never wanted to go to Moscow cos they still are scared of this

you  called your dog Jazz:)

looks cute:)

[Daveman]

Now the scammer is asking for my full name and street address and the nearest airport, her hair is long again in this picture she just sent.  Probably wants the information to use for identity theft.

I don't think she's even in FSU.... the picture says it all... the sofa cover is not a leopard print.. but most telling of all... check out the wall... it's clearly missing a huge rug!!!  What's up with the rug on the wall thing? It seems to be pretty common. Is that traditional Russian or from Soviet era?

Beautiful Lady, Mac... have you received the milkbones and chewy rawhide letter yet?  Don't worry, it's on the way. 

[phantom]

Good point Daveman, here's another photo with some buildings and lake/pond in the back ground, anyone regonize it?

[Lily]

Daveman, the picture says it all  ....looks like Lake Michigan in Chicago with a bit of the East Coast ...  

[Lily]

.... the picture says it all... the sofa cover is not a leopard print.. but most telling of all... check out the wall... it's clearly missing a huge rug!!!  What's up with the rug on the wall thing? It seems to be pretty common. Is that traditional Russian or from Soviet era?
 

Dave, people may think you are serious