"The murky subculture of Internet-brokered marriages" by Andrew Marton

[Natasha]

I arrived in december 2000 and got married on Valentines Day 2001 when the child was 2 weeks old. When i came Glen cried that his second wife ruined his life. I felt really sorry for him, i did love him. I thought if we  worked hard we could get through that. I wanted him to see the child. He even spent the nights with him untill the time the child started coming home and telling me that his dad was hysterically crying telling how bad his mother was that he still loved her and she didn't love him(but at the same time he was seeing a woman who is 4-th wife right now) It put a child into depression. And i told Glen not to cry in front of a child. And i explained the child that we were not a husband and a wife any more but he was still his daddy. Glen came to TX just to do the DNA test and when he satisfied that the child was his he moved back to his state, to his girl-friend or wife, i don't really know if he was already married to her.

[Natasha]

My friends never called the police on him. If somebody did i don't know anything about it. I was always faithful to him. Glen called me a wall-flower.

[BillyB]

I was mistaken and thought you arrived in America around May 2000 since you found out about Glen's DUI and job problems then. You should have not gone through with the k-1 visa. If Glen admitted he was driving while drunk, it's no different than the drunk Russian men you dislike. It's one thing to risk their own life but it's another start risking other people's lives with reckless behavior such as driving drunk.

Natasha, it's best you and Glen quit talking bad about each other to your child and to the media where the child may someday read the articles. You're both going to mentally damage the child and using the child for selfish purposes.

If you did nothing terribly wrong, you do not need to worry about losing your rights to your child. If you and Glen divorced in the State he currently lives in, you may have to move back there so the child's rights aren't violated in seeing the father.

[Natasha]

I found out about DUI when i arrived to the States he never told me on the phone. I agree with you Billy and i don't want to talk about this anymore.  I just don't want Glen to involve my parents in this story, they didn't do anything wrong. My child is healthy and happy and this is the best that mother could ever wish.

[Shadow]

No story has just one side, but it is clear that all people involved here have made mistakes. It always hurts to see a train wreck, and this is why some people of the press just love to write about it.
I hope that Glenn and Natascha can keep their respective dignity and will not start feuding here.

It shows once again that people should avoid to make hasty decisions on which their future life might depend.

I wish both of them happiness in their lives, and better judgement.

[glen-henderson]

Since Natasha has decided to go on this forum, this is going to turn out "he said she said"
But know this, a tree is known by its fruit. I feel very sorry for her and she is living in denial
I hope that she gets some help. Like I said the website will be coming out the day the litigation is over, with receipts, documents, videos. I even have one of her dad while he is so drunk that he cannot walk. According to the doctor she was seeing she suffers from NPD. BTW I never had my first wife of 30 years placed in a mental hospital, her doctor did that, she was having serious hormonal problems.
I have videos of Natasha's fellow employees at her job in Jasper Texas, telling of her extreme temper and screaming at work. You are welcome to call me if you have anymore questions, 601-597-0398. I will come back and place the link for the web site later but I am not going to have a public arguement. Thanks for letting me tell just a little of my side.
One last thing,  she is violent and hit me one 3 occasions.
Andrew Maton has spoken to my attorney, and he will be speaking to another attorney that I have hired, His experise is "defamation"

[BillyB]

I found out about DUI when i arrived to the States he never told me on the phone.

So the reporter who wrote the article and publisher got it wrong when they said you found out in May 2000 under the section about "Life in the States". You might want to go back to your first post and revise what you said "This article was written on the proof facts. The publisher first checks all information, if it's correct".

I have little faith reporters these days can get it right.

Now that you and Glen are posting here, maybe you two can discuss things like adults, forget the past and live the present the best possible way for your's and the child's benefit. What do you say Glen and Natasha?

[Mod3]

Since Natasha has decided to go on this forum, this is going to turn out "he said she said"

As both of you have 'said' I would like to remind that endless repeating of accusations will be off-limits for both of you.
This is, as the title says, a discussion forum, not a mud slinging contest.

[Gator]

It is interesting to get both sides to this broken marriage.  It seems to me that Natasha came here in good faith and married Glen because she was pregnant.  They became engaged and married in haste, i. e. they were "wedded strangers.  As they got to know each other, they discovered there was not enough to keep them together.

As Shadow wrote,

It shows once again that people should avoid to make hasty decisions on which their future life might depend.

Glen has some proof about her violent temper.  So what?  These RW are not pushovers.  Some of the other disputed facts are also not relevant.

What is relevant, if what Natasha says is true, Glen is a control freak:  spying on her at work, reading her emails, recording her phone calls.  If you love someone, truly love her, you will feel trust and you would never spy on her.  The spying and other forms of control could have easily destroyed the love that she claims she felt.

What does spying and controlling eventually accomplish?  Nothing positive.  Better to take the energy and use it to communicate with each other, to discuss why you do not feel trust, and to explore ways to improve trust.  If they had done that, perhaps with the aid of a counselor, maybe they would still be together.

Based on what I have read, many of the troubled RW-AM marriages seem to have a controlling husband who does not trust his wife.  

[glen-henderson]

Billy I agree,

[BillyB]

Billy I agree,

Great and hopefully Natasha will agree too and hopefully you two could amicably agree that you won't hurt each other further and come to an agreement on child custody without spending more money on attorneys except for the fact you will need an attorney to write up the paperwork for whatever you two will agree on for visitation.

Happy Thanksgiving! I'm signing off to go see relatives and eat some turkey.

[ScottinCrimea]

What will all of this bickering accomplish?  In the end the attorneys will have all of the money and the child will have all of the trauma.  No one wins, they only waste a lot of time and energy which could be better used moving on and building a new life.

[glen-henderson]

Gator if I remember the law, slugging someone in the face is a "CRIME" , be it man or woman, I could have had her arrested but did not.

[Admin]

Gator if I remember the law, slugging someone in the face is a "CRIME" , be it man or woman, I could have had her arrested but did not.

Glen,

You mentioned that you have an attorney who will be 'dealing' with the issue of "defamation" - which suggests they are a Plaintiff's attorney. If so, have you asked them about the issue of 'civil assault' ? If someone hits you, it is not only a criminal matter, it is also a civil matter - assuming, of course, your case can meet the terms of the statute and you have legitimate damages - AND - the statute of limitations has not expired. Please note, I am NOT an attorney, hence, you should not rely on my interpretation.

You asked, in your reported post, why this topic was started at all. The answer is - I felt the article by Andrew Marton represented intellectual dishonesty and an abject lack of integrity on the part of Marton. While I found some of the elements of his characterization of your situation suspicious - I also KNOW that he (Marton) had been given plenty of information and opportunity which countered the tenor of the article he published. It seems clear now that he was looking for a relationship which was a trainwreck and in which one party in the trainwreck was willing to talk about it. He found that in Natasha.

I know from first-hand experience how frustrating it is to face unfounded, or exaggerated, allegations. I faced it with my nutty vindictive ex-wife, and I often face it with the some of the nutbags who used to participate here at RWD. It seems there is no shortage of opportunists or nutbags who will seek to take advantage - even if it means selling out their integrity.

I wish you luck with your plight - and I sincerely hope you both can maintain the perspective of how important it is to protect the children of the marriage.

- Dan

[William3rd]

Battery- an intentional tort, has a 1 year statute of limitations from the date of occurance. Same as defamation.

[glen-henderson]

In Dec of 2002, Natasha went to Russia to see her parents and took our son with her
she was suppose to return in Feb 2003. She stayed until April, 5 months.
If it was so bad here why did she just not stay, next if I held her against her will as she said "I crawled and begged" (this is kinda funny really). Why did I let her take our son and stay in Russia for so long. I paid for her to go and come back, she came back when she wanted , left when she wanted.
Dan you are right about the fact when someone is trying everyday to "Frame" you for something it is very frustrating . I came home from work one day. She was setting at
the dining room table, as I walked in she said "why did you hit me", I replied "what are you talking about" ? She raised her shirt and there was a red place on her side and she said this is where you hit me. I thought she was joking at first until I found that she at the urging of Lena Arney one of her friends in North Carolina who had framed her husband, had called the domestic violence 800 number.
So what can a man do , just lay down and take this. Well I guess in 100 years what difference will it make anyway. I have 2 adult sons, 35 & 32. When interveiwed but a court appointed home evaluator, My sons said "I never saw my dad take one sip of alchohol, never heard him use one word of profanity until I had left home. Never hit my mother (wife of 30 years). And Dan thanks for the advise but I think the statute of limitations is passed.

[glen-henderson]

http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/11/25/a-feminized-american-media-is-incapable-of-telling-the-truth/

[Admin]

Here is a link to a video with Natasha telling her side of the story -- http://sb1.thefifthnetwork.com/VCMS/Player.aspx?id=cd619911-39cf-41ac-8462-ad0078a31011&UsePlayList=true&UserCompany=Star-Telegram&videoGUID=1fb2687b-90bf-4c8f-add4-5f2c8ba1aadd

FWIW

- Dan

[groovlstk]

http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/11/25/a-feminized-american-media-is-incapable-of-telling-the-truth/

This piece is a million times crappier than the work of the purportedly crappy journalists it seeks to expose. If this is representative of what's fighting IMBRA, you may as well get used to having it around for a long, long time to come.

[Christian]

It is interesting to get both sides to this broken marriage.  It seems to me that Natasha came here in good faith and married Glen because she was pregnant.  They became engaged and married in haste, i. e. they were "wedded strangers.  As they got to know each other, they discovered there was not enough to keep them together.

As Shadow wrote,
Glen has some proof about her violent temper.  So what?  These RW are not pushovers.  Some of the other disputed facts are also not relevant.

What is relevant, if what Natasha says is true, Glen is a control freak:  spying on her at work, reading her emails, recording her phone calls.  If you love someone, truly love her, you will feel trust and you would never spy on her.  The spying and other forms of control could have easily destroyed the love that she claims she felt.

What does spying and controlling eventually accomplish?  Nothing positive.  Better to take the energy and use it to communicate with each other, to discuss why you do not feel trust, and to explore ways to improve trust.  If they had done that, perhaps with the aid of a counselor, maybe they would still be together.

Based on what I have read, many of the troubled RW-AM marriages seem to have a controlling husband who does not trust his wife.  

I don't see any difference between AM/RW divorces and AM/AW ones.  They all suck.  Bitterness, lies, adultery, greed and pity parties abound.  The bottom line is plain: You can't make someone love you.

 

Christian   

[MidnightinMoscow]

Andrew Marton told me on the phone "Of course it is wrong to background check people before they can say hello".

But he is working for Kristin Campbell and she just got the entire article republished, which is an incredibly unethical thing to do, especially in light of the fact that the entire staff of the Star Telegram was advised of specific inaccuracies as well as general flaws, especially in regard to the dishonest portrayal of IMBRA:

http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/12/07/mcclatchy-newspapers-interferes-twice-in-child-custody-case-while-knowing-they-were-committing-slander

A quick glance at the article reveals:

1) Natasha is admitting that she was a scammer from the beginning when she says "all Russian women are scamming". So why does Andrew Marton imply otherwise throughout the article?

2) If a woman comes to the US on a fiance visa and doesn't like a man's job or home, she doesn't have to marry him.

3) What is a huge corporation doing interfering in a child custody case?

[MidnightinMoscow]

Natasha,

If you are reading this forum, note that you can get $1Million easily if you sue McClatchy Newspapers for interfering with your child custody case.

You are not going to win anything otherwise, especially based on that fraudulent Andrew Marton article.

McClatchy will settle with you possibly before it ever comes to a trial.

Just reconcile with Glen enough to tell this big corporation that they did wrong, regardless of your willingness to cooperate with them.

It can easily be proven that they had their own agenda (pushing radical feminism) and not your best interests at heart. There are enough expert witnesses to show this.

If you have ever read Master and Margarita or any other great Russian literature, keep in mind that the kind of "journalist" you are dealing with in the likes of Andrew Marton and Kristin Campbell...would NEVER understand good writing and are probably NOT your intellectual equals.

[Khankrumthebulgar]

Andrew Morton is doing the bidding of his Masters. The Editor of the Fort Worth Star Telegram obviously is not heeding any input from Men who are looking for a relationship with a Foreign Woman. The FemNags have used the US Congress to effectively Label all US Men as violent Sexual Predators and Criminals. Nullifying the Equal Protection clause of the US Constitution. And eliminating the presumption of Innocence.

It is a well known fact that one in five US Marriages is celibate. No Sex in the Marriage. US Women have children, take their Anti Depressants and no longer feel compelled to meet their Husbands Sexual needs. This has been well documented in the US Media. Sex is an indicator of the health of a relationship. Where there is none, A Woman feels nothing emotionally for a Man.

This is one reason US Men are in greater numbers waking up to the Fraud Marriage has become here. In decades past, it was understood by Women that the wifely duty was a regular romp in bed with Hubby. Feminists in the 1980s passed Marital Rape Laws, now Women can effectively refuse to meet their Husbands sexual needs and he has no recourse except to Divorce her. And to face financial ruin in the process. Have his kids taken away, with no guarantee of access or reasonable visitation.

Dr. Stephen Baskerville detailing the abuses of the Family Courts has advised US Men not to Marry. I have had to advise my two younger Sons the same thing. I have Six Grandsons and Five children. Marriage in the US to an American Woman is an extremely high risk proposition. The Marriage rates vs. Divorce rates are so grim in California the State no longer publishes them. But it is roughly 75%.

[William3rd]

I can see why Dr. Baskerville would be advising men not to marry. After all, his one attempt at marriage was horrible and the woman hideous, barking at him every chance that she got. Forever she will be known as- The Hound of the Baskerville. . . . . . .


 

[Simoni]

Forever she will be known as- The Hound of the Baskerville. . . . . . .

Great line, Bill!!!