Ask me, I've done it! and have been married for 3 years happily!

[BC]

Why does reading this thread remind me of Dickens' Great Expectations?

[IAmZon]

OFF TOPIC ...

I often wonder why Lily has still not found a suitable mate.  She is either too picky; or you guys are too lazy?

Given her high stature here (not easy for sure), temperament. intelligence, and other obvious qualities ... is she not just a perfect possibility?

I bet anyone a dollar she is off the market within a year:)

[Lily]

One great guy stole my heart about some weeks ago  now I am impatient to embrace him in person..hopefully next months..

[Daveman]

One great guy stole my heart about some weeks ago  now I am impatient to embrace him in person..hopefully next months..

Fabulous news to hear Lily!  Be sure to tell him to bring some clean crisp money for exchange, pack a change of clothes in his carry on, and most importantly of all... don't forget to bring Ed.     He should fit in the carrion bag nicely...   

Joking aside, I'm glad to hear this news!
Dave

[ScottinCrimea]

Welcome Eduard,
    I hope you are here as a contributing member and not merely to advertise your services.

It appears that I was overly hopeful.

[SANDRO43]

One great guy stole my heart about some weeks ago now I am impatient to embrace him in person..hopefully next months..

Congratulations, Lily .

Of course, we shall all be expecting your T/R, or is it a V/R (Visit Report)  ??? .

[Eduard]

I also agree with people who say that eventually the man has to fly on his own and get to know his lady BY HIMSELF.  If he cannot do this then I would not be sure if he is a good man to be in a relationship with.

On the videos some of the women looked surprised to see you.  Did they know you would be coming with the man they were meeting?

Alyona

Yes many of my clients go back the second time by themsleves just to spend more time with a woman they picked on the first trip. Sometimes they don't go to Russia rather meet somewhere in Europe or places like Egypt or Turkey which are very popular vacation destinations for Russians. Spunch as a matter of fact is chilling with his fiance in Egypt right now. basically his plan is to apply for K-1 as soon as he gets back as long as everything goes as well as it did the first time with her when I went with him.

The girls on the video knew about me, since I translated their telephone conversations and introduced myself then. I also made arrangements with them in regards to dates - where to meet and at what time.
The only reason they looked surprised was because I was videotaping. They didn't expect that and some did feel a bit uncomfortable with the camera rolling. This is the only time I video taped this kind of thing and only because my client was OK with that. I also asked the girls if it was OK and they said yes. basically this will be a nice documentary for their grandchildren to watch...how grandpa met grandma sort of thing...

[Eduard]

This is such interesting thread.

Although my English was not very good when we met we did not typically use interpreter.  Most communication is non-verbal so it was more important for us to stumble through this.

Eduard, my husband and I watched your videos and they were alot of fun.  I asked him if he would have done it this way and he said no.

I then asked  him why anyone would do it this way.   His answer, "Everybody needs a good wingman sometime when they meet someone new."

Alen,
I agree that some guys would rather do this without any help from anyone, like your husband did. But as you mentioned there was a big communication problem and you solely relyed on chemistry and non-verbal communication. Since you've been together for a couple of years at this point apperantly this worked in your case. But IMHO it is very risky to make a decision to spend the rest of your life with a person strictly based on chemistry and not really getting to know each other on a deeper level.
Once again, to each his own. your husband took a chance and now he is married to you. other guys might not get as lucky, and I know a few of them personally...
men who hire me to help them with this process find a lot of value in my service and say that they have no idea how they would do this without my help...
I see some men on this forum who have been searching for the right woman for several years already. They, I guess prefer to do this on their own. more power to them! But to me searching for more than a year seems very strange given the number of available single women in Russia who would be open to getting to know an American man.
In the process of searching and getting to know my client will talk to many women but will have his search narrowed down to 3-4 great potential candidates in a matter of 3-4 months (as long as he has realistic expectations).
With my help they do get to know each other extremely well through writing letters and phone conversations, and when they go to Russia to meet the women, that's the time they rely on chemistry and feelings. But at least by the time they meet they already would have gotten to know a lot about each other. At that point they probably don't need to have me travel with them as much. But many of them feel that it is worth it to them to have my expertise at their fingertips. And as I explained earlier in this thread, it's their option to have me go with them or not.

[Lily]

Congratulations, Lily .

Of course, we shall all be expecting your T/R, or is it a V/R (Visit Report)  ??? .

  You are too early with congratulations. Just wish me luck..I really need it 

I love writing reports but this time I cannot promise it..very sorry guys. I am not going to jeopardize his affection by disclosing privacy. He is too precious to me to risk him 

[Shadow]

In the process of searching and getting to know my client will talk to many women but will have his search narrowed down to 3-4 great potential candidates in a matter of 3-4 months (as long as he has realistic expectations).

That is the catch 

[LiveFromUkraine]

men on this forum who have been searching for the right woman for several years already. They, I guess prefer to do this on their own. more power to them! But to me searching for more than a year seems very strange given the number of available single women in Russia who would be open to getting to know an American man.

It isn't hard to get married to a Russiam woman, Ed.  It could happen in less than a week.  Most guys want to make sure they are marrying the right one.  Your clients really don't spend enough time with the women to really know anything until they come on a visa for marriage.  I guess most of the guys on here are not as desperate as your clients when it comes to women.  It seems strange to me to go there for a week and then plan on filing a fiance visa.  I watched your videos and it seemed more like a shopping experience than anything else. 




Thomas

[Eduard]

That is the catch 

Why can't we agree that this is just the reality of nature that a beautiful 24 year old girl in most cases will not be attracted and want to marry a 60 year old 5'6", 350 Lbs man"
Why do you need to call it "a catch"?

[LiveFromUkraine]

Why can't we agree that this is just the reality of nature that a beautiful 24 year old girl in most cases will not be attracted and want to marry a 60 year old 5'6", 350 Lbs man"
Why do you need to call it "a catch"?

Ed, I wonder if you really have been in the US for as long as you state.  Shadow was agreeing with what you said. 


Thomas

[William3rd]

LFU is absolutely right. . . . . Somebody is having difficulty with US slang and idioms.


What was that old Shakespearian saying? Correct me if I am wrong. . . . Better to be silent and to be thought of as a      or to speak and remove all doubt.

I alter the truism of Ed slightly to make it more profound. . . . . .

"Why can't we agree that this is just the reality of nature that a beautiful 24 year old girl in most cases will not be attracted and want to marry a 60 year old MAN OF ANY HEIGHT OR WEIGHT?"

[BC]

Quote from: Alyona on Yesterday at 15:04:05

This is such interesting thread.

Although my English was not very good when we met we did not typically use interpreter. Most communication is non-verbal so it was more important for us to stumble through this.

Alen,
I agree that some guys would rather do this without any help from anyone, like your husband did. But as you mentioned there was a big communication problem and you solely relyed on chemistry and non-verbal communication.

Look at the above statements in bold.  I find them very different.

Eduard, Is this an example of your translating skills? Maybe this is how you also 'create' relationships?

Step step slide.. step step slide.. you are truly dancing around the subject instead of with it.

Reminds me of that old saying.. "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BullSh!t".

[Eduard]

It isn't hard to get married to a Russiam woman, Ed.  It could happen in less than a week.  Most guys want to make sure they are marrying the right one.  Your clients really don't spend enough time with the women to really know anything until they come on a visa for marriage.  I guess most of the guys on here are not as desperate as your clients when it comes to women.  It seems strange to me to go there for a week and then plan on filing a fiance visa.  I watched your videos and it seemed more like a shopping experience than anything else. 
Thomas

Why "most guys"? I think all guys want to marry "the right one" I've never met a guy who wants to marry "the wrong one" have you?
I guess where we disagree is that you believe that the only way to get to know a person is being with them face to face weather you understand each other or not. I couldn't disagree more with that assessment! For centuries people became intimate friends and lovers just by corresponding with each other. I myself corresponded with my wife for about 6 months before we met. I did chat  with hundreds of women while I was searching. Many fazed out just after a couple of letter exchanges, others lasted for about 8-10 to figure out that there was no real connection. But at the end I had 4 girls that I did want to meet. Two of them I really felt strongly about (one being my wife) I decided to save the best for last and at first met with the girls that I was the least interested in. I met each of them for dinner and drinks, they were stunning looking, much better than on the photos, but I found myself thinking of the other 2 during these dates. I guess the connection that I felt with the other two by emailing and talking on the phone was a lot stronger than what I felt sitting across the table from the first 2 girls. I think that subconciously I already knew that the one girl that became my wife was trully my soulmate, and I decided to meet her last and spend the remaining 3 weeks with her. When I met the 3d girl, it was great! She was absolutely beautiful, exactly my "type". I felt the chemistry right away. We had a great time walking in a park in Moscow, strolling through the streets, stopping to eat or for a drink at different cafes and restaurants throughout the day and talking...talking..talking. She was an awsome girl, but the thing is that during our email conversations she had set off some red flags in my mind. I'm not going to go into details of what they were, but after my divorce I hooked up with a Russian girl that I met here in Florida and she tought me a great lesson on how manipulative and masterfully decietful women can be. I was lucky to realise that in time and not marry her. We had unbelievable chenmistry, sex, but in the end her lack of honesty and integrity pushed me away from her and I decided to break it off with her.   That was the hardest thing I've ever done but I knew that I didn't want to spend the rest of my life with a woman I couldn't trust.
Well, back to girl number 3. I was really into her...but some things that slipped out during our conversation face to face only confirmed my concernes for those red flags I had gotten during the email stage of our relationship.
Now there was time to meet girl number 4 (my wife). I communicated with her for about 6 months by email, chatting live on MSN messenger and talking on the phone. In this whole time I never had one red flag with her. She always came through as honest, straight forward person. If i said something that she desagreed with she wouldn't just go alone but would tell me exactly how she felt. And frankly I love that about her. I guess that deep in my heart I already knew that she was my life mate aqnd that's why I allocated only 1 week for the first 3 girls and 3 weeks for my wife. When we finally met there was this very comfortable feeling of "OK finally we are togheter...we are one" We didn't have to talk much because we already knew every little detail about each other and we just enjoyed being together for 3 weeks.
I did go to see her the second time about 3 months later, but honestly it wasn' to "make sure" rather because I missed being with her terribly.
I respect your opinion that maybe this is not the "way" for everyone, but it sure did work for me.
My clients enjoy the opprtunity of getting to know their girls as if they speak the same language. They already have a good connection, good understanding of each other's personality, sense of humor, interests, likes and dislikes, know about each other's family, education, habits...pretty much all you'd want to know because they had the opportunity to ask each other and recieve the answer in their native language. So when they finally meet, they are not meeting a stranger, rather a good friend with romantic possibilities.
Does that make sense?
My clients are far from "desperate" as you put it. Most of them are attractive, successful men who have no problem meeting American women. But they are frustrated with American woman's feministic attitude and prefer to find a younger, non-feminist beautiful and family oriented woman from FSU. I never limit their face time together, it's entirely up to the client and if he wants to spend a year living with his girl in Russia I would only say that it's a great idea. Not many people can get away from their business, their life for this length of time though. Therefore getting to know a woman really well on line, using my searching and translation skills first is a worthwhile option.  

[Shadow]

Why can't we agree that this is just the reality of nature that a beautiful 24 year old girl in most cases will not be attracted and want to marry a 60 year old 5'6", 350 Lbs man"
Why do you need to call it "a catch"?

The catch in your sales pitch is that what you describe as a client that you can hook up in 3-4 months is someone that could do it without your help. A guy who has realistic expectations, no emotional luggage or issues, can travel in a 3-4 month period of time and understands his limitations in language regarding communications. If that is the model of your clients, you really need to re-shoot the videos.
Now if you could provide 3-4 interested women for a guy that has some emotional issues, looks outside his league in age and beauty and feels that slang is proper English then you would truly provide something unique.

But they are frustrated with American woman's feministic attitude and prefer to find a younger, non-feminist beautiful and family oriented woman from FSU. I never limit their face time together, it's entirely up to the client and if he wants to spend a year living with his girl in Russia I would only say that it's a great idea. Not many people can get away from their business, their life for this length of time though. Therefore getting to know a woman really well on line, using my searching and translation skills first is a worthwhile option. 

Now you even start to repeat agency hype. 

[BC]

My clients enjoy the opprtunity of getting to know their girls as if they speak the same language. They already have a good connection, good understanding of each other's personality, sense of humor, interests, likes and dislikes, know about each other's family, education, habits...pretty much all you'd want to know because they had the opportunity to ask each other and recieve the answer in their native language. So when they finally meet, they are not meeting a stranger, rather a good friend with romantic possibilities.
Does that make sense?

Your client currently in Egypt, how much time did he spend with his K1 'fiancee' and how much with her family?

[I/O]

My clients are far from "desperate"

Not so sure about the service provider though.

I/O

[Eduard]

Hello everyone! I'm back from Russia and happy to be home in Sunny Florida!
I definitly prefer FL weather to the crispy -23 celsius in Kazan and Nizhniy Novgorod!
First stop was the beach...second stop here

[Christian]

Hello everyone! I'm back from Russia and happy to be home in Sunny Florida!
I definitly prefer FL weather to the crispy -23 celsius in Kazan and Nizhniy Novgorod!
First stop was the beach...second stop here

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. (MORE) hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Christian

[Eduard]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. (MORE) hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Christian

that sounds Buddhist, Christian

[Christian]

that sounds Buddhist, Christian

Sorry, bee's wax burns silent.  I'm not lzxekhristy ili lzheproroki.  I was just wondering about your priorities.  No ill intent.

Thank God I'm not like Richard Greer!

Christian

[Eduard]

The greatest error I believe most men make is to limit themselves by thinking agency or dating site is the only way to go.  Yes I agree that such paths are expedient but doubt they are truly effective in the long run for most seekers.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

BC, I'm wondering what other venues for meeting women are you suggesting?
I have a network of friends and relatives in Russia and if I was single and looking they could produce a few candidates for me. Also when I was single I never had problems meeting women in Russia. I'm a social person, not ugly and can easily strike up a conversation with a woman, make her laugh and get her number if she is single. But for a WM who doesn't speak Russian, works and can't drop everything and move to Russia to live there for a few years hoping to meet someone, what options do you suggest?

[ScottinCrimea]

I'am surprised that no one has discussed an option that I mentioned awhile back.  If you travel to the vacation areas of the FSu in the summer, you would have unlimited options.  I saw the possibilities during one summer I spent in Sudak, a resort on the Black Sea.  There are literally millions of single women who flock to the resort areas from all over the FSU in the summer.  During the day they are at the beach and in the nightclubs in the evenings.  If you're into the physical aspects, you could spend the day at the beach and, after you have picked your jaw up from off the sand, you could approach any woman who appears to be unattached.  In the evenings, the nightclubs are packed with a higher ratio of women to men.  The nice thing about all of this is that, because they are on vacation, they don't have any obligations to get in the way of spending time with you if they choose.  They are also more open to casual meetings. They already have their own room rented, so if things don't work out, you both go your own ways with no further expectations.  You could casually meet several women every day and if you hit it off with one, you have the rest of their vacation to spend together and can make arrangements to write each other and possibly visit her in her home city on your next visit.
     Of course there are some disadvantages, for example you are not seeing her in her home environment, but as far as meeting a lot of women in a short time, you can't beat it.