When is it OK to ask a RW to change her religion for you

[myrddin]

She's good people   I'm glad you're in a better mood.  Life's too short to stay down.

Now, can we get Simoni to change his back? 

[Faux Pas]

Evil is black,  Good is white, and Shadow is the absence of Light.  
I'm glad you have it all figured out!  To summarize your excellent points:

0 is not a number.
Religion is a number.  
Atheism is like 0.  
Therefore, atheism is not religion.

Bravo!  

It's all conjecture but, religion is an intangible so isn't the lack of religion in itself still a religion? I'm just pulling your chain here Blue Fairy  but this debate could stay in an endless loop. Chicken or the egg kind of thing

[Sort]

Since we are in this debate about God and all that.
Can any of you believers please tell me,,"Where God comes from?"
He/She must come from some place or was He/She just "Farted" out from an alian ass?

[Blues Fairy]

It's all conjecture but, religion is an intangible so isn't the lack of religion in itself still a religion? I'm just pulling your chain here Blue Fairy 

If religion is a mindset, and atheism is also a mindset, then religion = atheism?  

A community course on logic will solve all our definition debates.  

[Sort]

A community course on logic will solve all our definition debates. 

Oh.
I would not have too high hopes on the members here Blues Fairy.

[Faux Pas]

If religion is a mindset, and atheism is also a mindset, then religion = atheism?  

A community course on logic will solve all our definition debates.  

Nah.....too illogical

[Sort]

Nah.....too illogical

Thats the reason we keep comming back to this board m8......

[Jazzyclassy]

 to Sort

You know you 'd better say nothing in this thread than to post silly and just childish statements trying to be funny , you sound pathetic with your assumptions and insults towards people who believe, keep your oppinion to yourself please

Or just invent how to express your opinion in the other way , as it makes me feel  ashamed of what you have to say

It sounds like you are not 35 but 15 years old

[Sort]

Ok
Jazzy girl.

I don't have any problem with peoples believes or not.
YOU seem to have BIG problems with people that NOT share YOUR believe.

I still wonder where God came from.
Is that a hard question or is it to sensitive????

[Jazzyclassy]

God is everything goodness and generous things in the world there is God inside of us, it is hard to explain it , you gotta feel , if you do not have this in your heart, keep on living how you live, there will come a day when you stop asking this question , you will just know when God is coming from....

[Sort]

God is everything goodness and generous things in the world there is God inside of us, it is hard to explain it , you gotta feel , if you do not have this in your heart, keep on living how you live, there will come a day when you stop asking this question , you will just know when God is coming from....

Hmm
I am a very good person, i do not want to see people hurt, i help people when i can.
I have had this kind of discussion many times before with very high believers and they all say the same.
"God is within us"
And one thing i do not understand is why everyone is taking it personaly when you are asked about "god"
Now i see you taking it very personaly and think im a bad person that lives in a cave.
And if god is everything goodness and generous why have there been so so many wars in "his" name?

[Jazzyclassy]

        And if god is everything goodness and generous why have there been so so many wars in "his" name?       

think youself , cos people are not ideal and that is a punishment for them it is a natural course of life peace and war then peace again then war, it is the law of life and God is aware of this

[Shadow]

Blues Fairy, after the exchange of Sort and Jazzy, do you still believe that atheism is NOT a religion that is like any other tying to convert people in to following ? 

Your logic is flawed. Shadow is created by light, not by the absence of light.
Atheism is the belief not to believe. Not believing is not atheism.

(We could switch over to the debate that you can never go up on stairs going down, much safer )

[Blues Fairy]

Blues Fairy, after the exchange of Sort and Jazzy, do you still believe that atheism is NOT a religion that is like any other tying to convert people in to following ? 

Your logic is flawed.

So now religion is any theory whose followers are trying with zeal to convert others to it?  I've seen many zealots of the theory of torsion fields, now you'll call it a religion too?   

My logic, however flawed, sticks to accepted definitions.  Atheism is, by definition, not a religion.  To prove otherwise, you have to change the definition of religion, which in fact you are trying to do all the time.   

BTW the existence of not-so-literate supporters of atheism does not make atheism itself stupid.  There are idiots in every school of thought.   

[Faux Pas]

think youself , cos people are not ideal and that is a punishment for them it is a natural course of life peace and war then peace again then war, it is the law of life and God is aware of this

Punishment from whom? God?

[Shadow]

My logic, however flawed, sticks to accepted definitions.  Atheism is, by definition, not a religion.  To prove otherwise, you have to change the definition of religion, which in fact you are trying to do all the time.   

In that case lets first agree on the definition of religion.
I am willing to accept yours.

[Simoni]

She's good people   I'm glad you're in a better mood.  Life's too short to stay down.

Now, can we get Simoni to change his back? 

Ed-- this strand shows how hot an issue religion can be for some people.    That's the way it is.

 

Marina is a shy girl.  But here is that profile pic back....for a while :-)  LOL

And for your clearwater beach memories...
(and replacement shots)

[SANDRO43]

Thats the reason we keep comming back to this board m8......

You seem rather fond of ending your posts with that m8. What is it supposed to mean ???

[Misha]

You seem rather fond of ending your posts with that m8. What is it supposed to mean ???

I presume it means "mate" or Australian slang for buddy or friend.

[myrddin]

This is indeed a hot topic, and the passion just shows why you need to get this stuff out as early as possible with someone you're thinking about building your future with.


 

Thanks, Simoni, and tell Marina thanks, too    

Is that the Clearwater Beach Hilton in the background?  I lived just a few blocks north, walked my dog past it almost every day.  
Sigh...you giveth and you taketh away  

[SANDRO43]

I presume it means "mate" or Australian slang for buddy or friend.

Just to save 2 keystrokes ? Gawd   .

[Simoni]

 

Thanks, Simoni, and tell Marina thanks, too    

Is that the Clearwater Beach Hilton in the background?  I lived just a few blocks north, walked my dog past it almost every day.  
Sigh...you giveth and you taketh away  

Yeah, we miss Texas, but this area is great!  The Mexican food sucks, but the seafood is great!

And you can't beat the sunsets over the gulf.

I pulled those pics but replaced them with some from Treasure Island, Sunset Beach, just south of Clearwater Beach.  No snow here 

[Simoni]

Since we are in this debate about God and all that.
Can any of you believers please tell me,,"Where God comes from?"

I still wonder where God came from.
Is that a hard question or is it to sensitive????

Belief in God requires faith.  Not believing requires even more faith.

The in-depth answer to your question is beyond the scope of what we need to be doing here.

And it is God who draws people to Him, so I don't try to do that.  Live and let live.  

Because God is the author of life.

[Blues Fairy]

In that case lets first agree on the definition of religion.
I am willing to accept yours.

Buy a dictionary.

[Lit_1nce]

from  Merriam-Webster online

Main Entry:
    re·li·gion Listen to the pronunciation of religion
Pronunciation:
    \ri-ˈli-jən\
Function:
    noun
Etymology:
    Middle English religioun, from Anglo-French religiun, Latin religion-, religio supernatural constraint, sanction, religious practice, perhaps from religare to restrain, tie back — more at rely
Date:
    13th century

1 a: the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1): the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2): commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3:archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

(bold per me)

I guess I have my own religion.. because I have my own beliefs (most of which are compatible with ORGANIZED Christian religions)

As there are also Atheist institutions (google comes up with 375,000 hits for "atheist organizations"), it could also be considered an organized religion.