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« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2005, 12:50:43 AM »
All these talks and advices are based at information you got from old bachelor :P I would want to hear how SHE sees all this

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« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2005, 01:08:06 AM »
Not a batchelor here Elen..

Yes would be very interesting to hear what she has to say.. unfortunately my Russian is probably not good enough even if she did share her experiences.

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« Reply #52 on: August 15, 2005, 01:15:25 AM »
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Not a batchelor here Elen..

can't catch a humor, sorry

My opinion is never mind what nationality a wife of old bachelor has his "complaines" would be the same:P

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« Reply #53 on: August 15, 2005, 01:30:57 AM »
LOL Elen,

Interesting thoughts.. Probably some pravda also.

This old batchelor did have his routines disrupted but complaining doesn't help much ;)

Lets see.. before was twice a month... now.. Nope not complaining that's for sure..:P

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« Reply #54 on: August 15, 2005, 02:53:11 AM »
Maxx,

I returned the linens Sunday, the store issued a $425.00 credit.

I ended up using this credit plus an additional $108.00.

 

She discovered a new ice cream store. Baskin Robinson.

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« Reply #55 on: August 15, 2005, 03:05:40 AM »
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She discovered a new ice cream store. Baskin Robinson.


LOL Clyde,

Guess you can start saving for the second wardrobe a year down the road :shock:


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« Reply #56 on: August 15, 2005, 05:46:02 AM »
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She discovered a new ice cream store. Baskin Robinson.

LOL Clyde,

Guess you can start saving for the second wardrobe a year down the road :shock:

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BC, what think your wife from the italian "gelato"... the best ice cream from the world... difficult to resist ;)

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« Reply #57 on: August 15, 2005, 06:43:11 AM »
Bruno,

Gelato.. good stuff!.. but driving instead of walking does make a difference. Expect a couple of extra kilo's after a year. I also gained a couple.. good Russian cooking! mmmm

We bought a very nice, exclusive, very tight evening dress right after she got here. Found out she was pregnant a couple weeks after that LOL.. in all 3 new wardrobes in two years.. and of course the old shoes never matched the new clothes.

No.. not into spandex yet.. LOL

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« Reply #58 on: August 15, 2005, 07:54:17 AM »
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Expect a couple of extra kilo's after a year. I also gained a couple.. good Russian cooking! mmmm

I have loose around 20 kg the first year i was married... RW can be timid in public but they don't allow you to sleep directly when you go to the bedroom... the more pleasant of the sport :cool::cool::cool:

Infortunaly, i have take back my 20kg since my divorce :(... so, i am searching for my new regime ;)... and i think that i have find it :D... After Russia and Ukraine, i test now Belarus...

 

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« Reply #59 on: August 15, 2005, 08:07:33 AM »
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Gelato.. good stuff!..

There is a place in Baltimore called Rita's that has outstanding Gelato's.

I always get an ice headache from them.

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« Reply #60 on: August 15, 2005, 10:30:53 AM »
Clyde,

I sincerely hope things are going better for you and Irina.

You surprised me, I never thought you'd get this far, I hope your lady gets her head together before you need to make the bad decision.  Sending her home will be a lot harder than anything you've ever done if it doesn't work out.

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« Reply #61 on: August 15, 2005, 02:04:58 PM »
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Men, I am worried about our Clyde.  Clyde, you now need to rope, throw, and brand her before it is too late for you. And remember the test. Someone said it. Your manhood will be tested often and always. Fortunate for me I spent 6 years in the military so I am already preconditioned for these manhood tests. I stated out with her having the upper hand but I got it back last year  but she is fighting me for it and she is damn good at dominating any situation. But I am fighting to keep my nads out ofher purse. You naver want a women to be carring you balls around in her purse.

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" Woman test a man at all level, it is a natural proces. A man, by nature, tends to look for comfort and consistency in his relationship.

[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]On the other hand, a woman has a tendency to make her primary relationship into her Perpetual- Improvement Project. So, if there's nothing to work on or process, she's compelled to create something in order that the Perpetual Improvement Project can continue. As some would say, "They've always gotta mess with things when things don't need fixin'." [/font]

[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]You have probably heard the old familiar saying: When a man marries a woman, he hopes she'll never change while she hopes that she'll be able to change him. The interesting thing about old familiar sayings is that a lot of them are based in real wisdom. In relationship, a man avoids change while a woman thrives on it -- if things seem a bit placid and static, time to do some stirring up![/font]

[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Yes, women do have an innate need to test and push their man. Why exactly must they do it? One of the main reasons they push is to see if there is anything there to push up against. [/font]

[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]They need to know that you have a backbone, that you will set limits, that you will stand up for yourself. It makes them feel safe when you won't take any crap. It somehow provides them with reassurance that you are strong enough and confident enough to fight back when you are provoked and that you are capable of protecting them from danger. [/font]

[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Trying to check a man protective capabilities by starting arguments is not totally logical, but it is bio-logical. It is a drive that goes back to the days when the womenfolk huddle in the cave while the men fought off a pack of ravenous saber tooth tigers. A woman actual physical survival was dependent on having a strong and brave male at her side who could hunt and kill dangerous animals and protect her from hostile tribes. That survival based drive for a provider/protector still motivates the modern female.[/font]

[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]So, even if a woman has super high Interest Level in you and she is also a sweet, loving and giving person, it's not uncommon for her to also be continually 'testing your metal' somehow. She'll always need to be digging and questioning, prying and pushing in subtle or overt ways. Why? Because she's a female."[/font]

[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Comment from [/font][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]John Gray's writer of "Men are From Mars - Women Are From Venus" [/font]

 
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« Reply #62 on: August 15, 2005, 03:07:28 PM »
I guess Clyde has to walk a fine line. He has to gently and firmly show her who is boss. I do not understand the idea that a RW should be allowed free reign to shop until she drops, without any limits. If I was Clyde, I would begin the process of teaching her about budgeting. Unless he never wants her to learn. The lesson MUST be learned - better sooner than later. If she cannot live within budgetary guidelines, then you'll end up in debt with a bad credit rating and you won't be able to pay your bills. If all of that happens, then your life will be crap and it won't help to have a darling RW.  Try explaining to her that you can't buy a new car because you are still paying off her bill at Macy's. .....Ain't gonna be pretty.

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« Reply #63 on: August 15, 2005, 09:37:38 PM »
Bruno,

Thanks for the good reminder.  John Gray is, IMO, on target about 90% of the time.  Some of his observations will be more important than others for WM who are involved with RW.  However, many men would do well for themselves to glance at that book from time to time (as least as a primer, though maybe not the definitive word on dealing with RW, or women generally).

What was interesting for me was to see (almost a decade ago now) how many women were also interested in this book.  I'll never forget a comment from my girlfriend in college about the gender . . . "Hey, even we don't understand ourselves some of the time."  

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« Reply #64 on: August 16, 2005, 12:33:30 AM »
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When a man marries a woman, he hopes she'll never change while she hopes that she'll be able to change him. The interesting thing about old familiar sayings is that a lot of them are based in real wisdom. In relationship, a man avoids change while a woman thrives on it -- if things seem a bit placid and static, time to do some stirring up!

PSSS perfect example males do see things in "wrong":P light

Women do such thing NOT because they don't like static. It's just because women tend to close eyes at many "defects" of future husbands hopping ( in vaine) that males will become more wise, more mature and better with times. And women rather would work at improving old one than to find somebody new 

Otherwise males tend to get the "best" from the begining and have little wish to bear with females "defects" which appear with times in any marriage. And males in many cases see that's easy to find a new one "ideal" than to clean mess in old marriage.

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« Reply #65 on: August 16, 2005, 12:45:27 AM »
Helen,

The situation is not the same at western side that at russian side about men... usualy, on our side, it is the woman who ask the divorce... divorce is not a good move for man, it is very expensive, and it is the man who pay... and i don't speak about monthly money to ex-woman and child... the amount pay at our side are nothing with what man pay in Russia... at least, western man have more interest for child... they don't go away when woman become pregnant...

Of course, only a fool can think that a woman or a man is perfect... we don't search the perfection, we search the harmony together...

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« Reply #66 on: August 16, 2005, 12:59:18 AM »
You see things are such at the West right because Western women have adopted too many males values. Enjoy now with what females had to deal for centures :P

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« Reply #67 on: August 16, 2005, 03:19:32 AM »
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You see things are such at the West right because Western women have adopted too many males values. Enjoy now with what females had to deal for centures :P

So, for you, it is the revenge of woman on the man :shock:... i agree that man have not always be good with woman... these situation always exist in some country... but the actual man, who respect woman cannot be responsible for act from our ancestor...

If you father was a criminal, it don't make you a criminal... don't judge the behavour of man on the past, judge the present...

I wish the equality, not one superior to the other... and it is what happen in our modern society... now, woman have win the same right that man but i wish that man have the same right that woman too... in case of divorce, why it is always the man who pay, why it is always the woman who keep the child... same right and mutual respect is the key of the problem...

 

 

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« Reply #68 on: August 16, 2005, 03:38:10 AM »
She is the only woman I know who spends $92.00 at the dollar store.

She mentioned that I had gained weight since I visited her. Everything she feeds me is high in starches.

Pretty soon you can call me fat man.

I have to get her to lighten up on the pasta, potatoes and bread.
 

 

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« Reply #69 on: August 16, 2005, 04:06:30 AM »
Clyde, she just wants to reduce your chances with other women by making you fat.:P

Thanks for reminding me to save some extra ca$h just in case she discovers shopping as a hobby. Her spending $92 at the dollar store is probably her way of showing she can shop on a budget :shock:

Hmmm...combine the spending and fatening you might mean she it trying to make you ready for times of no money and little food. :D

However your day-to-day little complaints sound less and less like a drama.
No it is not a dog. Its really how I look.  ;)

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« Reply #70 on: August 16, 2005, 04:46:47 AM »
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That's inflation Clyde :D

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« Reply #71 on: August 16, 2005, 04:50:23 AM »
The thing that bothers me now is that I must buy a pc for the kid.

He has downloaded software for his games that have slowed my pc down and are draining memory and diskspace.

He never turns off the pc he puts it on standby so he can get into his games quicker.

Maybe I should buy him a bicycle with a pc attached.

 

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« Reply #72 on: August 16, 2005, 07:17:22 AM »
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You see things are such at the West right because Western women have adopted too many males values. Enjoy now with what females had to deal for centures :P
So, for you, it is the revenge of woman on the man :shock:... i agree that man have not always be good with woman... these situation always exist in some country... but the actual man, who respect woman cannot be responsible for act from our ancestor...

If you father was a criminal, it don't make you a criminal... don't judge the behavour of man on the past, judge the present...

I wish the equality, not one superior to the other... and it is what happen in our modern society... now, woman have win the same right that man but i wish that man have the same right that woman too... in case of divorce, why it is always the man who pay, why it is always the woman who keep the child... same right and mutual respect is the key of the problem...

 

 
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Bruno,

The times are changing or atleast they are here in Florida... The cuatody arrangements from my divorce is that my home is my sons primary residency and I get to claim him as a dependent every year (I have him 75-80 percent of the time) while my ex-wife only has visitation. I was entitled to child support but refused it because I don't need it  and that would only be something for us to argue over. Plus, she wouldn't have paid it anyway. I bought her half of the equity in the house and thats all she ended up with.

I have two friends who have custody of their children and in both of those cases the mothers didn't want the responsibilities of being the primary parent (pretty sad).  As a matter of fact, I know someone that is in the middle of a divorce and the children are with him 90 percent of the time so he is petitioning the courts for the primary position and it appears that his soon to be ex-wife would rather live like a teenager and party than deal with raising children. So I am sure she will just sign on the dotted line...

So what's the point to this... Well it appears to me, that it is not so much of the courts changing their view on custody as it appears more to be the mothers wanting to be free from the responsibilites of child rearing (they want their freedom). Atleast this is what appears to be the case in my area anyway. I nor any of the men I mentioned would want things any other way... I love being a father! More and more it appears that the courts are opening up to the fact that the man may be able to provide the more stable environment for raising the child once the divorce is said and done!!!

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« Reply #73 on: August 16, 2005, 09:43:14 AM »
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Bruno,

The times are changing or atleast they are here in Florida...

Maybe i can explain my case... and it can be interesting for Son of Clyde too...

When i have marry my previous russian wife, she was with a little girls... her husband was go away when Anastasia is birth because of the responsability... the child was with a cerebral paralysis... i have use a lot of money ( doctor ) and love... and now, these child is normal, she have same a QI superior to the normal... i have take care of Anastasia like my own daughter...

Now, at the divorce, i was ready to pay and i was wishing to have a visit right... no way... when i was step father, i was obligate to take care of the child but now, since i was not the genitor, i was without right on the child...

Some can ask why i have not adopt the child... i have wish make it but my ex-wife have say that the biological father was not agree with this... but again, she was with her plan from the beginning... some month after the divorce, i have receive a document from the russian ambassy who say that a adoption will be no problem since the father have sign a document with my ex-wife 20 day before our marriage where the father renouce to all his parental right...

Clyde, you have marry a woman with a child... you go invest money and love to these child... but in case of problem in your relation, you have no right about these child... and if you wish adopt him for be your own child, be ready to a very long procedure, both in America and Russia...

I don't wish afraid you but it was a problem that we have never speak before on these forum... the situation of foreign child in case of divorce... and the post of bbernard have refresh the souvenir of my own relation, the more horrible part, the loose of one child that i have cherish from her 3 year until her almost 10 years... it seem that only the sperm tell for the law... the man who work several decade for grow up a child who is not his own child is nothing...

I really hope that about this, the law in America are better that our in Belgium...

 

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« Reply #74 on: August 16, 2005, 10:03:55 AM »
Bruno,

The child in my care is 14 and taller than me.

He is pretty much on his way to adulthood but there is still a lot of immaturity.

I would never consider adopting a child this old and he probably does not like the idea either. It is fortunate his father loves him and is not a deadbeat like so many Russian men I have heard about. The father has bought expensive gifts for his son and I think the boy is expecting the same from me. He will receive gifts from me in due time but not when he begs for them.

 

 

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