Some one will know this

[PeeWee]

When an immigrant processes through a port of entry (such as NY) they surrender their documents. There is a waiting period of two to three months and then they are mailed a temporary green card? or some other status document. What is the name of this document? How long does it take for it to arrive in the mail? Is there a website or an office to call for status?

 

PeeWee

[jb]

lol,,,,LMAO...

peewee,,, that just about wins the prize of the day.

Doesn't everybody wish it was so easy.  

As I understand it, your g/f is arriving on some other kind of visa than a K-1, right?

[jb]

I remember PeeWee's comment a while back saing he was soooooo glad he didn't have to know about I-129F's I-765', I-130'S. I-131'S, and all that BCIS technical stuff,'cause his lady was so special and had her own visa to come to the USA.

And now he want's to know when the Green Card Fairy will arrive.

That's too much.... I almost hurt myself laughing so hard.

[PeeWee]

I remember PeeWee's comment a while back saing he was soooooo glad he didn't have to know about I-129F's I-765', I-130'S. I-131'S, and all that BCIS technical stuff,'cause his lady was so special and had her own visa to come to the USA.

And now he want's to know when the Green Card Fairy will arrive.

That's too much.... I almost hurt myself laughing so hard.

But what is the answer to the question? And you assume it if for ny girlfriend. As far is I know I still don't need to know about that crap all I need to know is what is coming in the mail and when does it show up?

 

PeeWee

[BC]

PeeWee,

I am the last and most unqualified person you probably want an answer from but with the information you provided can give as good an answer as any of the best informed folks around here.

All I know is that:

1. They take the brown envelope if she has one.

2. Ask a few questions if they want to.

3. Stamp her passport and she's on her merry way.

DMAAOY

[PeeWee]

PeeWee,

I am the last and most unqualified person you probably want an answer from but with the information you provided can give as good an answer as any of the best informed folks around here.

All I know is that:

1. They take the brown envelope if she has one.

2. Ask a few questions if they want to.

3. Stamp her passport and she's on her merry way.

DMAAOY

True, and the the immigration person says, "You will receive a ____ in the mail in a few month."  So what do they get in the mail? And what is the time span from entry until the doc shows up in the mail?  2 month? 3 month?

 

PeeWee

[ConnerVT]

It would depend on the type of visa.  If it is a non-immigrant visa, my guess is they would recieve nothing in the mail.

[BC]

Conner,

Wouldn't it be the same if it was an immigrant visa and nothing was done after entering?

[jb]

That's right, unless she has a K-1 visa, (which we all know PW hasn't applied for), she will be allowed to stay for how ever long her visa is good for, and then she has to return home to Russia.  

There will be no GC in the mail.

If PeeWee makes the mistake of marrying her while she's in the US on a non-family type of visa, she may return home and face a very lengthly wait (last I looked, it was a two year bar on re-entry), before she can reapply for another visa.  During which time PeeWee will have to learn all about I-129F's and I-130's, etc., and a whole bunch of other stuff.

Of course, that's what happens when you sleep in class.

[jb]

BC,

Even the K Class visas are non-immigrant visas until application for AOS converts them.  The only "Immigrant Visa" is one in which a family member has filed an I-130 on that person's behalf.  There used to be a Green Card Lottery, but that has been suspended for the FSU countries.

[ConnerVT]

If PeeWee makes the mistake of marrying her while she's in the US on a non-family type of visa, she may return home and face a very lengthly wait (last I looked, it was a two year bar on re-entry), before she can reapply for another visa.

Not 100% correct, but you need to do your extra credit homework to be in the know.

Some J-type visas have the 2 year ban, some do not.  Those that don't will typically have the exclusion stamped or printed somewhere on the visa.  One example is a cultural exchange visa that was privately funded (as opposed to receiving funding through some federal grant, either directly or indirectly).

My best friend married his Russian wife whom he met here in the US.  Her J-visa was paid for by her family, and was excluded from the 2 year ban.

It's amazing the things you can learn if you stay awake in class... 

[PeeWee]

So no one knows. Seems typical of the US government and its various programs and process.

PeeWee

[RacerX]

Every lawyer I've talked with has said that a girl can marry a US citizen no matter the visa type she entered with (with the exception of 2 year home visit J-visas) and adjust status by filing a I-130 - all while remaining in the US.  But, it's all in the timing - one cannot use other visa types to intentionally marry, but if she waits 60+ days and then marries, or even overstays her visa, in nearly all cases she can successfully adjust status after marriage.  This only applies to aliens that were "inspected" at a POE and not illegals.

There has never been a prohibition for visitors or workers coming to the USA and then falling in love, marrying, and then staying here - there has been one for aliens doing this intentionally, although it's often a fine line.  However, there are some safeguards in the system.  For example,  FSU women (or men for that matter) can rarely obtain visitor or business visas, while K- visas are nearly always approved.

[ConnerVT]

So no one knows. Seems typical of the US government and its various programs and process.

No, that's not entirely correct.  You got the best answer you will get from anyone, with the information you have supplied.

It seems to me that you are the one who doesn't fully know the information you need.  What kind of visa is it?  Does it come with restrictions?  You gave us the equivilent of "I'm buying a new car.  Will it have an automatic transmision?"

First you gather facts.  Then you seek answers.  It's a lot easier that way... :?

[PeeWee]

So no one knows. Seems typical of the US government and its various programs and process.

No, that's not entirely correct.  You got the best answer you will get from anyone, with the information you have supplied.

It seems to me that you are the one who doesn't fully know the information you need.  What kind of visa is it?  Does it come with restrictions?  You gave us the equivilent of "I'm buying a new car.  Will it have an automatic transmision?"

First you gather facts.  Then you seek answers.  It's a lot easier that way... :?
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I'll have to find that information out. I did buy a used car a few months ago and it had a stick shifter. I see what you mean.

 

PeeWee

[jb]

One of my wife's accquaintances in Moscow did that, came over on a work visa, (she was translating documents for an adoption agency so US people could adopt Russian babies), she met and married while she was here.  She wound up back in Moscow with a two year bar on her passport.

I don't know all the details on her case, but the BCIS doesn't like it when people try to sneak around the rules.  The K-1 visa is the APPROVED[/i] method of importing a woman for marriage, if they get the notion they've been fooled they will punish.

[PeeWee]

One of my wife's accquaintances in Moscow did that, came over on a work visa, (she was translating documents for an adoption agency so US people could adopt Russian babies), she met and married while she was here. She wound up back in Moscow with a two year bar on her passport.

I don't know all the details on her case, but the BCIS doesn't like it when people try to sneak around the rules. The K-1 visa is the APPROVED[/i] method of importing a woman for marriage, if they get the notion they've been fooled they will punish.

My friend's lawyer was telling me about a woman who arrived on a crew visa, married a guy, here, and somehow they worked it out for her. I was not interested in the details of it as it did not appy to my friend's situation. You might recall that she had migrated but then returned to Russia. What the lawyer  is trying to  accomplish is to get her readmitted without having to start the process over again. She did manage to get a SS card while she was here but that isn't a big deal, what she needs is the other cards and documents. If the lawyer is not successful then the process will begin anew and maybe two years from now she will be back for good.

I'm passive about the whole thing. It is easy for me to get to Moscow. She has a beautiful apartment, a nice car, a good job. I really think if it were not for her desire to be married to a man other than a Russian that she would stay.

PeeWee

[Bruce]

Peewee, if you sincerely love your Moscow girl, why not file a K-1 visa like most of us?  

For all this is worth, my wife came here on a K-1 visa a year ago and after the stamp at the point of entry we received nothing (0) in the mail.  After we were married and I submitted AOS status paperwork for us we received instructions for my wife to be fingerprinted by the BCINS at such and such location six weeks later.   We also received an I-131 form from the BCINS a little less than three months after the filing of the AOS.   This is a form which allows the individual to return home to visit and then re-enter the USA while her adjustment of status is being processed. 

Just my two cents, but it is alot easier to learn the rules and follow them instead of trying to figure out a way to get around them.  Others have tried their best to hit your pretty square but gently with the clue bat.  Wake up and visit the visa journey site.  The process is a pain, in large part due to the waiting game,  but the paperwork actually is alot easier than doing your taxes by yourself - ah, maybe a tossup with turbotax.

[PeeWee]

Peewee, if you sincerely love your Moscow girl, why not file a K-1 visa like most of us?  

For all this is worth, my wife came here on a K-1 visa a year ago and after the stamp at the point of entry we received nothing (0) in the mail.  After we were married and I submitted AOS status paperwork for us we received instructions for my wife to be fingerprinted by the BCINS at such and such location six weeks later.   We also received an I-131 form from the BCINS a little less than three months after the filing of the AOS.   This is a form which allows the individual to return home to visit and then re-enter the USA while her adjustment of status is being processed. 

Just my two cents, but it is alot easier to learn the rules and follow them instead of trying to figure out a way to get around them.  Others have tried their best to hit your pretty square but gently with the clue bat.  Wake up and visit the visa journey site.  The process is a pain, in large part due to the waiting game,  but the paperwork actually is alot easier than doing your taxes by yourself - ah, maybe a tossup with turbotax.

Turbo Tax is both time consuming and somewhat inaccurate. I found that a CPA is worth what you pay them. Regarding the rules.

Your information is most helpful.  As I said before. I am not involved in this process, other than a as a bystanter. She has immigrated herself. She was here. I saw her. So I know that much of it happen.  No one is trying to get around a system. I was simply asking what is the sequence of events that follows once one does enter the US via one of the various POE.

PeeWee

[Son of Clyde]

Well if she arrives at JFK she will receive a 90 day EAD so she can work.

Of course she will need a SSN to work so that will take another 3 - 5 weeks.

Is the mysterious brown envelope the large one with her x-ray inside?

[PeeWee]

[user=130]Son of Clyde[/user] wrote:

Well if she arrives at JFK she will receive a 90 day EAD so she can work.

Of course she will need a SSN to work so that will take another 3 - 5 weeks.

Is the mysterious brown envelope the large one with her x-ray inside?

Clyde, i do know that when she was here she went to the SS office and applied for the SS card. At the time she did  have a visa that was good for 90 days, or it may have been 120 days, I don't recall,. But you know, I was not there but I would think that the envolope did have her xrays because she told me that she had to visit a doctor as a part of her immigration requirements.

 

PeeWee

[ConnerVT]

90 days?  Applied for SSN?  Medical exam?  Sound as she's been here on a K-1 already.  I wonder if her 'magic' visa isn't a Cond. GC.  And at what cost to her original 'sponsor'?

[BC]

PeeWee,

It's a bit surprising, IIRC that you know enough about this woman to consider marriage but little else of her circumstances.

[PeeWee]

PeeWee,

It's a bit surprising, IIRC that you know enough about this woman to consider marriage but little else of her circumstances.

yes, it is quite surprising, BC. Like I said early on this is not a situation that would ever apply to any of you. But you know that people have existing circumstances that will allow them to migrate to the US without them having to find a man that will marry them. My neighbor Natasha, for example. Came here from Russia 15 years ago to work for an airline that needed her language skills. She is still here, working for that same airline, and in the meantme she met a doctor from Latvia and married him. Another example. last time I saw Anna Kornekva she was playing tennis in a NY racket club. A single RW woman living in the US? Unheard of. It happens, guys. One more. My friend Julia has been here, with her son, for two years on student visa. In that case I have wondered what would have happened has she met a man in her first year and married him. I don't think they would have expelled her from the country. Or if she completed her degree at the university and landed job, she was interviewing wth one of the largest stock brokerages in NYC last I heard from her. You think she is planning on staying? You think that her new employer might work that out for her?

To your point, BC. I have known her for 3 years. The jury is still out as to whether I want to marry her or not, and I do know a lot about her circumstances. What I don't know is anything about the immigration and visa process but I am trying to learn, be it after the fact.

PeeWee

[PeeWee]

90 days?  Applied for SSN?  Medical exam?  Sound as she's been here on a K-1 already.  I wonder if her 'magic' visa isn't a Cond. GC.  And at what cost to her original 'sponsor'?

Sorry, no K-1 loser lurking in the wings. there is nothing magic about it so you can quit looking for a cynical term to label it with, conner. I am asking questions because that is why this forum was established. I am not going into details about it because this is the internet and it is also none of your business. the original post was asking a question about a process, not an invitation to apply your scrutiny to it. So, let's all grow up, act like men instead of gossiping old women, and help a brother answer a question.  OK!  Although I do believe that I have the answer to my original question.

 

PeeWee