Looking for country girl

[Misha]

I think you are riding too much between the lines.     Besides, as Russian proverb goes - it's better to be rich and healthy than poor and sick.   

Well Russian proverbs can be cited to support any point of view. Here is one for you: Богатому сладко естся, да плохо спится. Без денег сон крепче.

[Ooooops]

Here is one for you: Богатому сладко естся, да плохо спится. Без денег сон крепче.

BS      Try sleep under the bridge and eat from garbage cans then we'll talk who sleeps better - poor or rich.      

[kievstar]

Money issue will always have debates.  And many good points on all sides. 

And everybody has different tastes.  But guys who make less tend to think women are bad if money is one of the things they require in a marriage.  Natural for men making less to say this.   But most women have a lot of wants and money maybe just one item on a list - and not a requirement.  If you a good looking, wealthy, nice, socialable healthy, family orientated, moral man your going to do well dating or marrying with most women even the pro daters.  Pro daters just are a little more picky and in many cases have the physical beauty that drives men crazy.

Very beautiful "physical appearance" women tend to be attracted to successful men.  Success is usually defined by personal wealth or high status in society.

Remember  - highschool football star usually has the pretty girl, nerdy kid who in future has successful business marries her.

My point about $150,000 is it is a normal level for college educated people in USA around 35-40 years old who go into working careers.

Men who have money tend to have other traits - motivation, success, social skills that women like.

But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  Most guys on this board know they go to Ukraine / Russia as they can get a better wife in their eyes based on what they have to offer a woman. 

[Doll]

Богатому сладко естся, да плохо спится. Без денег сон крепче.

BS

[Misha]

BS      Try sleep under the bridge and eat from garbage cans then we'll talk who sleeps better - poor or rich.      

Maybe, but one does not need to earn $150,000 to not sleep under bridges, and all of Howard Hughes' money still left him a somewhat neurotic recluse who looked like he had been sleeping under a bridge when he died 

[Misha]

If you a good looking, wealthy, nice, socialable healthy, family orientated, moral man your going to do well dating or marrying with most women even the pro daters.

Well if you are truly good looking and wealthy, odds are good that you rarely need to go around the world to find a date.

My point about $150,000 is it is a normal level for college educated people in USA around 35-40 years old who go into working careers.

Kievstar, you must be living in a pretty wealthy bubble. I will cite Wikipedia who draws its information from the US Census. The latest stats indicate that:

1. The median salary of a man 25+ with a bachelor's degree is $50,916 (median means in the middle. This means that half would be earning more and half would be earning less.)
2. The median salary of a man 25+ with a professional degree (doctor, lawyer, accountant, etc...) is only $88,530 (I was surprised myself as I expected this number to be higher).

None of these median wages approach $150,000 so your point that $150,000 is a normal level for a college educated American is incorrect. In fact, households earning more than $150,000 represented only 5% of the American population.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States#Education_and_Gender

[Doll]

Guys for God's sake let's leave this 150K alone! 

[Misha]

Guys for God's sake let's leave this 150K alone! 

LOL. You were the one to bring it up 

[Doll]

LOL. You were the one to bring it up

No, I was not. I only said a man needed to provide.

[OlgaH]

Well if you are truly good looking and wealthy, odds are good that you rarely need to go around the world to find a date.

Do you want to say that guys on this board, guys who are looking for a life partner, go around the world just because their looks and assets do not let them to date and marry a local woman?

[Misha]

Do you want to say that guys on this board, guys who are looking for a life partner, go around the world just because their looks and assets do not let them to date and marry a local woman?

Most times yes, and most times they will claim other reasons (search for a more traditional woman, cultured women, etc...). If you look at the postings, the most common complaints that always comes up is that American women are overweight (to put it politely). If the men in the MOB thought they could get an equally attractive women at home, few would ever leave their homes in search of foreign brides.

[Ooooops]

Misha, I hope you can run fast because MOB of these guys gonna beat the **** out of you now...   

[Misha]

Misha, I hope you can run fast because MOB of these guys gonna beat the **** out of you now...   

LOL! I expect as much 

[OlgaH]

Misha, you are married a Russian woman. Please, leave your story how you met your wife alone, in any case you preferred to marry a woman that are not from your location, not a Canadian woman. Have you been rejected by the Canadian woman? Your look and assets don't meet the Canadian women' requirements? 

Misha,

I don't think you married your Russian woman, just because  "buying clothes second-hand, she saves money".

[Misha]

Misha, you are married a Russian woman. Please, leave your story how you met your wife alone, in any case you preferred to marry a woman that are not from your location, not a Canadian woman. Have you been rejected by the Canadian woman? Your look and assets don't meet the Canadian women' requirements? 

I will be honest. My wife is much younger and much more attractive than the women that were on the dating market in my city. If I had wanted to marry a woman ten years older and much less attractive, I would not have had any problem finding someone in my city. If I had wanted a single mother with little education, it would also have been a lot easier for me to find someone in Canada. I am also shy and awkward and pretty inept when it comes to dating, so Russia was a lot easier for me when it came to dating, and, yes, I could easily date much more beautiful women much more quickly.

[OlgaH]

I will be honest. My wife is much younger and much more attractive than the women that were on the dating market in my city. If I had wanted to marry a woman ten years older and much less attractive, I would not have had any problem finding someone in my city. If I had wanted a single mother with little education, it would also have been a lot easier for me to find someone in Canada. I am also shy and awkward and pretty inept when it comes to dating, so Russia was a lot easier for me when it came to dating, and, yes, I could easily date much more beautiful women much more quickly.

 So you had a problem to find a local young attractive woman... They don't exist in your city or they have rejected you? They don't want to save money on clothes 


Misha, I think the men on this board also want their wives to be attractive and educated, and as you they can not find such women on the local dating market... and they doesn't  want to marry just anyone.

Saying that "most times yes"  men  looking a woman abroad just because of lack of  looks and assets, do you know exact proportion of that men  to men who are looking for an attractive, educated and cultural woman with family values on this board?  or you just took your "most time" from a ceiling, as we say in Russia?

[Misha]

So you had a problem to find a local young attractive woman... They don't exist in your city or they have rejected you? They don't want to save money on clothes 

It was hard finding any women to date period. The dating sites in my city had few women. There was an agency, but most of the women were quite older. In Russia, it was simply easier to meet many women, and dating is a number's game. If you meet enough women, eventually you meet one where there is mutual attraction and interest. Did some women in Canada reject me? Yes, many over the years. Did I reject some women in Canada? Yes, a few on that count as well. However, I will confirm that in my personal experience that the young, very attractive women that I could date in Russia, greatly outnumbered the same type of women in my city by a ratio of at least 20-to-1. 

Saying that "most times yes"  men  looking a woman abroad just because of lack of  looks and assets, do you know exact proportion of that men  to men who are looking for an attractive, educated and cultural woman with family values on this board?  or you just took your "most time" from a ceiling, as we say in Russia?

Olga, the "most time" makes no sense, so I invite you to explain it in Russian. I don't have the statistics, but I will rely on my personal analysis of the thousands of posts that I have read here over the last year. The one message that comes out is that the main motivator for looking for a Russian woman is attractiveness.

[OlgaH]

Olga, the "most time" makes no sense, so I invite you to explain it in Russian.

Misha, "most time yes" is your expression 

Do you want to say that guys on this board, guys who are looking for a life partner, go around the world just because their looks and assets do not let them to date and marry a local woman?

Most times yes...

[Misha]

Misha, "most time yes" is your expression 

Yes, but "taking from a ceiling" is not my expression. This idiom might make sense in Russian, but not in English.

[OlgaH]

This idiom might make sense in Russian, but not in English.

Just for example "information or opinion that is taken from a ceiling" means " not supported by facts"   

[groovlstk]

Most times yes, and most times they will claim other reasons (search for a more traditional woman, cultured women, etc...). If you look at the postings, the most common complaints that always comes up is that American women are overweight (to put it politely). If the men in the MOB thought they could get an equally attractive women at home, few would ever leave their homes in search of foreign brides.

Actually, this argument cuts both ways, although I have never seen it applied to women. Men who come here claiming that they're tired of overweight American women, or that their small-town dating pool is too limited, or that Western women are too spoiled, etc. are often jeered and challenged. But FSU women with a toe in the international dating scene will often claim that men in their city are alcoholics, unfaithful, beat their wives, etc, that the few good ones are taken. Seems to me that these are two sides of the same coin.

[Misha]

But FSU women with a toe in the international dating scene will often claim that men in their city are alcoholics, unfaithful, beat their wives, etc, that the few good ones are taken. Seems to me that these are two sides of the same coin.

Dating is a market in many ways. We try to find the best partner possible, and hopefully find someone you can love in the process who will love you.

[Misha]

Just for example "information or opinion that is taken from a ceiling" means " not supported by facts"   

Again, I am giving you my analysis of what I read posted on this site. The conclusion that I have drawn is as follows: men may say that they look for RW because they consider them more "traditional" or "more cultured" or "less demanding" than AW (or Canadian women or European women, or whichever nationality you may insert here), but the main motivation IN MY OPINION is looks. This is seen in the most common remark that is made by AM with regards to AW is that they are not as attractive and not as thin as their Russian counterpart. Again, this is not based on quantitative date, rather my observations on reading too many posts.  

[Ooooops]

Миша, взять с потолка - когда не знаешь ответа, закатил глаза кверху (к потолку) и нашел там ответ.   

[kievstar]

A RW who says all  available men in her country are bad or an WM who says available women in his country are bad has problems.

You meet a RW who says she does not like RM best to say "next".  Samething for the RW.  Meet a WM who says women in his country are no good - tell him nice to meet you goodbye.

That being said I am sure RW and WM who say this maybe good people and maybe good marriage material.  Better to have a stronger answer why your looking and not just say foreigner.  Trust me many girls I know in Kiev hate when men talk bad about women in their country.