Wife split!

[felix8787]

Is your question if she would have married Wayne regardless GC? Or I didn't get it?
What is " of ever"?

The question is.....she is here, she has her green card, would she of ever gotten married to Wayne? of (used to indicate cause, motive, occasion, or reason):

[Doll]

The question is.....she is here, she has her green card, would she of ever gotten married to Wayne? of (used to indicate cause, motive, occasion, or reason):

Then I did understand you the first time. The answer is unknown. It is unknown because we don't know her reasons to marry and her reasons to go.
Just  a minute- I will drive my kid to JJ and tell you my friend's story why she left her husband.

[OlgaH]

he IS not wanting it unless you were going to use past tense   

We were in Russia on a visit and my husband wanted to get the divorce.

Talked to the attorney and before I did something I talked to my husband.

Girls, AM fear anything that has something to do with laws . So it is enough to just mention attorneys and laws.

Doll, don't wriggle  Did you blackmail your husband?  OK OK, calm down , don't answer, you don't like your side of your story to be questioned and you don't need it    

[felix8787]

Then I did understand you the first time. The answer is unknown. It is unknown because we don't know her reasons to marry and her reasons to go.
Just  a minute- I will drive my kid to JJ and tell you my friend's story why she left her husband.

But the answer is known, but she will never admit it though.
I think by what Wayne has posted, her reasons to marry him were for the GC. If not the GC then what I suppose, another man? Because if she married Wayne out of love and good faith she would still be there with him and we would be hearing praises of joy instead of her walking out on him they way she did.

Sure tell me of your friends story.

[Doll]

Olga, sweety, I've already started the car but dying to know what "why he wanting"
means
 
Gone 

[OlgaH]

Olga, sweety, I've already started the car but dying to know what "why he wanting"
means
 
Gone 

He, desiring or wishing, to    ...  divorce you... (as you have told us)  ...   

[Vishnya]

Doll, I can't believe you have been in the US 7 years and don't understand the issues of auto financing and marital property.  Most likely he bought it before they married, which means that her only share in ownership is what portion of the car was paid off during the marriage less the decrease in value of the car, so basically nothing.  Even if they bought it after the marriage, it would have to be in his name only because she wouldn't have any credit history to qualify to buy it.  If she wants to just walk off with the car, she owes him his portion of what has been paid off so far and then she must assume all payments for the car.

He's in a hard place because if he discontinues payments on the car it will mess up his credit rating.  In essence she has stolen the car from him, taking something for which she did not pay and for which he is responsible.  If she were to have any accident in the car, he would be held responsible as owner of the car.

That's BS. My husband and I bought two cars in our marriage. Both in my name. So it happened. His car is not paid off yet. If we were to file for divorce tomorrow and he takes it with him, is he stealing? No. Will it mess my credit? Yeah, if I don't pay - but I will, whatever. Even if he did not work, that would not mean this was my car only. It was bought while we were married. So, same here - if they bought that stupid car when they were married, it is marital property (although true, bank probably owns 90% of it), and she did not steal anything, she just drove off in her car.

They were married for less than a year. Doesn't look like Wayne is a millionaire. What is his problem? She is not going to take much from him anyway - the marriage was too short to accumulate tons of assets. What to be afraid of?   

[OlgaH]

I do understand your "selectively   chosen  position", it doesn't bother me at all.

Sure! you understand, you have given your own example how to deal with a husband who wants to get a divorce 

he IS not wanting it unless you were going to use past tense   

Past tense?  I don't know... I haven't heard your husband's side of the story... May be he is still wishing, desiring, wanting to    to get the divorce...  but does he have a choice after your ideas of DVC machine and mentioning attorneys and laws           

[Doll]

Ok, Felix, my friend's story.
A RW married an AM,  came here. Gradually she figures out that he is an Internet Romeo (porn and syber), too  much alcohol , etc.
She tried to make this marriage work- got job, talked to her husband and so on. it was hard but apparently bearable  but then she brings her teen daughter here. one morning the girl complains that her step father tried to have sex with her or something like this. RW got her belongings right away and left her husband that very hour. She took the car , the computer, her name was on the account so she could use the money.
 Felix, again- 12 guesses what this husband told his mother and friends?

[catzenmouse]

Despite all the "devil's advocate" posts here the truth lies only with Wayne and his wife.

While I feel that there has been some dishonesty/manipulation in the relationship from what has been posted (by Wayne) I find it a bit funny how the "left" and the "right" here have spent more time throwing spears at each other than offering helpful advice to Wayne.

Back to your regularly scheduled internet fight zone...

[Doll]

He, desiring or wishing, to    ...  divorce you... (as you have told us)  ...   

I was just picking on your grammar, never mind.
-ing in your sentence sounds like "something going now"
Never mind

[ScottinCrimea]

The question is.....she is here, she has her green card, would she of ever gotten married to Wayne? of (used to indicate cause, motive, occasion, or reason):

Not meaning to pick on your grammar, but it may be adding to the confusion here.  The correct way to say it is, "...would she HAVE ever gotten married..."

[OlgaH]

I was just pocking on your grammar, never mind.
-ing in your sentence sounds like "something going now"
Never mind

Tell us that is not going now 

Never mind 

[Doll]

that stupid car

 

[Vishnya]

Ok, Felix, my friend's story.
A RW married an AM,  came here. Gradually she figures out that he is an Internet Romeo (porn and syber), too  much alcohol , etc.
She tried to make this marriage work- got job, talked to her husband and so on. it was hard but apparently bearable  but then she brings her teen daughter here. one morning the girl complains that her step father tried to have sex with her or something like this. RW got her belongings right away and left her husband that very hour. She took the car , the computer, her name was on the account so she could use the money.
 Felix, again- 12 guesses what this husband told his mother and friends?

No guesses - that she came here only to get a GC. What a treasure - everyone wants it so bad 

[ScottinCrimea]

That's BS. My husband and I bought two cars in our marriage. Both in my name. So it happened. His car is not paid off yet. If we were to file for divorce tomorrow and he takes it with him, is he stealing? No. Will it mess my credit? Yeah, if I don't pay - but I will, whatever. Even if he did not work, that would not mean this was my car only. It was bought while we were married. So, same here - if they bought that stupid car when they were married, it is marital property (although true, bank probably owns 90% of it), and she did not steal anything, she just drove off in her car.

They were married for less than a year. Doesn't look like Wayne is a millionaire. What is his problem? She is not going to take much from him anyway - the marriage was too short to accumulate tons of assets. What to be afraid of?   

You're just not getting it.  Let's assume that, based on the payment history, the bank owns 50% of the car, you own 25% and your husband owns the other 25%.  If he drives off with the car and claims it as his own, he must pay the bank their 50% and you your 25%.  If he refuses to do so, he is stealing the value of the 50% from the bank and the 25% ownership from you.  It is no different than a business partner running off with the proceeds of the business, leaving you with nothing but the debts.

[OlgaH]

Despite all the "devil's advocate" posts here the truth lies only with Wayne and his wife.

catzenmouse,

IMO the truth lies now only with Wayne who shares his story with us

otherwise it is here

otherwise members of this board should never share their problems with us. 

[felix8787]

Ok, Felix, my friend's story.
A RW married an AM,  came here. Gradually she figures out that he is an Internet Romeo (porn and syber), too  much alcohol , etc.
She tried to make this marriage work- got job, talked to her husband and so on. it was hard but apparently bearable  but then she brings her teen daughter here. one morning the girl complains that her step father tried to have sex with her or something like this. RW got her belongings right away and left her husband that very hour. She too the car , the computer, her name was on the account so she could use the money.
 Felix, again- 12 guesses what this husband told his mother and friends?

In the first bolded part, the guy lied to her....hence he is a liar.
In the second bolded part, as the parent of her teen child, she did what was best and left immediately, did she ever follow up by reporting it to the police????
Now in red color......she actually tried to make the marriage work.

In pertaining how it is relevant to Wayne:
1) Did Wayne lie to her??? He did disclose his income and showed her pictures of his house and with multiple visits in the 4 1/2 years to her home country, she knew what was up.
2) Don't know about this having to do with Wayne (and please don't speculate). If it did, I don't think that he would be on here posting.
3) This is probably the biggest difference between your friend and "O", your friend actually went out got a J O B and tried to make it work, even with his internet romeo and cyber porn, she wasn't out for a GC, she actually tried to make it WORK.
While "O" didn't find a J O B, didn't try to make it work, was sloppy and had a boyfriend behind Wayne's back. And that's the difference that I see between your friend and "O" from what Wayne posted and you posting your friends story.

[Doll]

You're just not getting it.  Let's assume that, based on the payment history, the bank owns 50% of the car, you own 25% and your husband owns the other 25%.  If he drives off with the car and claims it as his own, he must pay the bank their 50% and you your 25%.  If he refuses to do so, he is stealing the value of the 50% from the bank and the 25% ownership from you.  It is no different than a business partner running off with the proceeds of the business, leaving you with nothing but the debts.

That's not true! It IS different from business. The don't care who pays what!

[felix8787]

Not meaning to pick on your grammar, but it may be adding to the confusion here.  The correct way to say it is, "...would she HAVE ever gotten married..."

LOL, yeah sometimes I screw up my grammer. LOL sorry folks.

[Doll]

LOL, yeah sometimes I screw up my grammer. LOL sorry folks.

So spitting on my reading comprehension! 

[catzenmouse]

catzenmouse,

IMO the truth lies now only with Wayne who shares his story with us

otherwise it is here

otherwise members of this board should never share their problems with us. 

The truth from Wayne's point of view is shared with us. And yes, I do tend to believe what he has posted as he has always been, IMO, up front with us here but I am lost on how you can equate the total truth with your disclaimer. I'm sure it makes sense to you but it is not the all encompassing truth and really has no bearing on the situation at hand.

[Doll]

she wasn't out for a GC

between us- I talked to her and know her reasons.

[ScottinCrimea]

That's not true! It IS different from business. The don't care who pays what!

Of course the bank doesn't care who pays, but they do care whose name is on the contract.  In their eyes, he is responsible for 100% of the amount owed for a car that he now does not have posession of.

[felix8787]

between us- I talked to her and know her reasons.

Enlighten me then, what was her reason??? Am I wrong and it was really about the GC and she just used her daughter to accuse him of that to leave? Was it another man, her boss from work, a secret friend, is she a lesbian and left him for another woman? Did she have a backup plan?
The flood gates are now open. What were her reasons?

felix8787