Wife split!

[felix8787]

Sorry Doll, but you missed the facts  as usually it is your inattentiveness 

I've already posted those quotes back on pg 21  

[Doll]

So basically she is in a loveless relationship for a GC.........or is she hoping that one day she will love him? Are they still together in this loveless convenience relationship?

I told you- she left because of her daughter.

[felix8787]

It is time to b-tch the laws that allow wives to get what they are entitled to.

And what do you mean by this? Please clarify.

[Doll]

And what do you mean by this? Please clarify.

Look- people are questioning the laws
(we are NOT talking of Wayne only).

[felix8787]

I told you- she left because of her daughter.

Yup, sorry forgot. So anyways, how long was this loveless relationship before that happened?

[felix8787]

Look- people are questioning the laws
(we are NOT talking of Wayne only).

Questioning the laws has been going on for a long time, will it ever be fair, not really IMO.

[Doll]

Yup, sorry forgot. So anyways, how long was this loveless relationship before that happened?

I am not sure- they didn't divorce right away, he hoped to save the marriage.
But she moved out.  

[felix8787]

If I may venture a suggestion... She moved out of his bedroom the very next day? I don't mean to be unkind, but inevitable guess is that perhaps the marrital bed was not quite what the newlywed wife had hoped for?

Hey Russiangirl,
Wayne was with this woman for 4 1/2 years with I don't know how many visits. I would imagine that sex has already taken place before the marriage, if so, then she knew what the deal was in their marital bed.

felix8787

[felix8787]

I am not sure- they didn't divorce right away, he hoped to save the marriage.
But she moved out.  

Hm........save the marriage after trying to have sex with her daughter.  :whirling:

[Misha]

If I may venture a suggestion... She moved out of his bedroom the very next day? I don't mean to be unkind, but inevitable guess is that perhaps the marrital bed was not quite what the newlywed wife had hoped for?  

Let's see, it took what 4.5 years for O. to finally get to the United States. I somehow doubt that the relationship hadn't been consummated before the wedding night.

[Russiangirl]

I somehow doubt that the relationship hadn't been consummated before the wedding night.

Perhaps it was, perhaps it wasn't - but in any case, something not pleasant must have happened which caused her to reconsider.

The speed of it (her leaving) is weird, and IMO can't be explained by omnipresent "she's a GCG".

Think about it. If you were a conniving GCG, would you leave your husband's bedroom "the very next day" for good, or would you try to allay his suspicions as long as possible?

The speed of her departure argues in favor of some other reason. We can only speculate, and it's not like we heard both sides. I'm just saying...

[Doll]

Hm........save the marriage after trying to have sex with her daughter.  :whirling:

He also thought that he could do anything because he rescued them from Russia.

[Ooooops]

How did Wayne's wife explain moving to another bedroom?   

[OlgaH]

Who?   

We should go back to the "The Second Stage" by Betty Friedan and her warning  Better not to start it. Hope you understand 

[Misha]

Perhaps it was, perhaps it wasn't - but in any case, something not pleasant must have happened which caused her to reconsider.

The speed of it (her leaving) is weird, and IMO can't be explained by omnipresent "she's a GCG".

Think about it. If you were a conniving GCG, would you leave your husband's bedroom "the very next day" for good, or would you try to allay his suspicions as long as possible?

The speed of her departure argues in favor of some other reason. We can only speculate, and it's not like we heard both sides. I'm just saying...

Well, to play the Devil's advocate, once married she had obtained what she wanted (marriage) and knew she no longer had to have sex. Clearly, based on what was disclosed, Wayne is easy to manipulate: he did everything she wanted (bought car, filed all the paperwork at the right time, etc...). Was it fast? Well, the factor that presumably was determined timing was the length of time required to find a new guy and convince him to take her in.

[Doll]

Think about it. If you were a conniving GCG, would you leave your husband's bedroom "the very next day" for good, or would you try to allay his suspicions as long as possible?

Of course not!

[OlgaH]

How did Wayne's wife explain moving to another bedroom?   

Do you think she bothered herself with giving some explanation? 

Sometime shortly after we got the new car, my key disapeared.  Wife did not let me drive the car unless we were going somewhere together. 

Next day, came home from work, found wife and step-daughter gone, everything packed up and gone.

Wife took new car that is in my name; computer, cable modem, etc. Many debts ran up because wife likes to buy things and has expensive tastes.

[felix8787]

He also thought that he could do anything because he rescued them from Russia.

That's just plain crazy thinking like that.

[Ooooops]

Do you think she bothered herself with giving some explanation? 

Then I simply can't understand why anybody would stay married to such person...       

[OlgaH]

That's just plain crazy thinking like that.

You forgot to add that it is just Doll's plain thinking 

[Russiangirl]

Do you think she bothered herself with giving some explanation? 

How peculiar for a gal to unquestioningly believe a guy bad-mouthing his newly minted ex, a guy with a history of failed RW relationship at that.

All we know for sure is their marriage has ended. "Кто виноват" (who's at fault) cannot be so easily determined, IMO.

[Misha]

How peculiar for a gal to unquestioningly believe a guy bad-mouthing his newly minted ex, a guy with a history of failed RW relationship at that.

Well, she does have at least one failed relationship behind her as well

[ScottinCrimea]

Doll is basically telling her own story here and describing her personal motives.  She's not defending this woman's attitude and actions, she is using the story to defend her own.  It frustrates her that no one is going for it and her justifications and arguments become ever more ridiculous. Seven years together where one stays because it's easier and the other stays because of blackmail isn't my idea of a happy marriage.

[Ooooops]

Seven years together where one stays because it's easier and the other stays because of blackmail isn't my idea of a happy marriage.

Where did you get the info about blackmail?   Was Doll so stupid to admit to it herself?   

[Russiangirl]

Well, she does have at least one failed relationship behind her as well

OlgaH? (The stalwart defender of poor oppressed American Men?) LOL.

(Guys, please don't get offended, I personally luv AM, I just can't stand the wining losers of the species. Sorry.)