Why not Colombian women instead? Why Russian?

[Ade]

Seriously!? All the Turks I've seen in Norway look like something that came flying out of a horses ass!

Seriously dude, you're no picture yourself and I mean that most sincerely.

Why not take your bigotry back over to Manny's where it seems to be appreciated?

[BC]

I spent quite some time in Turkey and found many really nice, beautiful women there.  Went out with a few and find them very appealing, not only in appearance but attitude as well..  Go to any modern city like Izmir (one of my favorites) in spring/summer and enjoy.

My order of preference:

Southern Spain
Turkey
Russia
German
Ukraine
Brazilian
American
Italian
French

Don't question the order, it was just that way for me based on a host of factors gathered over a half century.

[Andreas]

Seriously dude, you're no picture yourself and I mean that most sincerely.

Ditto!

Why not take your bigotry back over to Manny's where it seems to be appreciated?

My so-called bigotry has nothing to do with my opinion of Turkish women's appearance.

[Ade]

My so-called bigotry has nothing to do with my opinion of Turkish women's appearance.

Well, when the only differentiation you seem to make is white and everyone else then I think it is.

[Simoni]

I spent quite some time in Turkey and found many really nice, beautiful women there.  Went out with a few and find them very appealing, not only in appearance but attitude as well..  Go to any modern city like Izmir (one of my favorites) in spring/summer and enjoy.

My order of preference:

Southern Spain
Turkey
Russia
German
Ukraine
Brazilian
American
Italian
French

Don't question the order, it was just that way for me based on a host of factors gathered over a half century.

Don't forget the chicks from Canada!  Icy on the outside means they would appreciate shared bodily warmth!

[joe rockhead]

Don't forget the chicks from Canada!  Icy on the outside means they would appreciate shared bodily warmth!

The photo you posted is the exception, but I think if you spent some time here in Canada you'd find the same issues with Canadian women as with American women except more feminist BS and the same 60% overweight/obesity rate.  Its the typical sedentary north American lifestyle combined with a feeder bag of potato chips. 

[Shadow]

Turkish women definetely have attractive samples, I met a number on my travels there.
Actually the most beuatiful women are supposed to be in Iceland and Norway. Wonder wat is the tought of SJ about that....

[Sculpto]

At my Uni there was an Icelandic guy.  Well, he livedin Chicago, but, went back to Iceland a couple of times every year.  He would rave about Icelandic women, but, he was never able to find one willing to leave.  Apparently its a pretty good life there with lots of beer, high standard of living etc..

But, getting back to Colombian women.. A western guy has some advantages in that country.. chronic shortage of men.. due to decades of civil war... but on the other hand, the insecurity of life puts a big question mark for me in terms of intentions with Colombian women. 

Also, I don't think it is fair to say that Latin women are more or less prone to weight gain after child birth.  It is something that seems to happen to all women regardless of where they are from.  Big butts and saggy boobs appear to me to be simply a consequence of the hormonal and physiological changes that take place in womens bodies.  Maybe FSUW are more prone to starvation diets to keep their figure, but, that is a different psychology altogether and represents a different set of challenges.

Nothing wrong with focusing on a particular locale to find love, but, I never crossed anyplace off the list..

[Andreas]

Well, when the only differentiation you seem to make is white and everyone else then I think it is.

I've seen a lot of smoking hot Asian women, and arabs too, even the odd Pakistani. I just haven't seen any good looking Turkish girls, not that I can remember anyway. I will admit that I try to avoid areas where there are a lot of non-whites living, though.

[kievstar]

All countries and all races have beautiful women.   

Regarding women being heavy after children - no excuse.  Very easy to lose weight and stay in shape.  Goes for the men too. 

[Sculpto]

I will admit that I try to avoid areas where there are a lot of non-whites living, though.

Why?

[Andreas]

Why?

I prefer own my own race and culture, and areas with a lot of non-whites (in Norway) tend to be ghettos with a lot of crime. I'd like to visit some Oriental countries though, like Japan and Thailand.

[Ade]

Turkish women definetely have attractive samples, I met a number on my travels there.
Actually the most beuatiful women are supposed to be in Iceland and Norway. Wonder wat is the tought of SJ about that....

From what I've seen, in general there are more better looking women on average in Scandinavia than in Russia; I'll admit that my Russian sample is rather small and consists only of SPB, Arkhangelsk, and bits of Moscow's transit system and airports.

Of course there are exceptions, sometimes extreme exceptions; for instance, while going through the really awful Murmansk airport my passport was checked by one of the most stunning twenty-something women I've seen. And of course, my fiancée is exceptional too.

But take into account my bias; I think high heels are mainly silly, ultra thin butchered eyebrows are awful, and the standard amount of make-up I've seen on most FSUW is far too much.

[Stepford_Wife]

But take into account my bias; I think high heels are mainly silly, ultra thin butchered eyebrows are awful, and the standard amount of make-up I've seen on most FSUW is far too much.

It's not a bias, it's good taste What do we see in the FSU: tight see-through tops and mini-skirts, super high stilettos,  everywhere any time of day and night (doesn't matter if the legs are too "chunky", or the girl simply cannot normally walk in those shoes), eyebrows that are not even eyebrows, but lines drawn with a pencil lol That's so common there, no one thinks even for a sec that it's very unnatural and looks ridiculous. Oh and make-up, Dear Lord-protector of all that is good and holly, black eye-liner or red lipstick in the middle of the day, brrrrrr...
Of course there are some naturally beautiful and cute girls in FSU, but they are quite rare compared to "high-heeled-drawn eyebrows-bleached-hair" "beauties".
 

[Ade]

It's not a bias, it's good taste What do we see in the FSU: tight see-through tops and mini-skirts, super high stilettos,  everywhere any time of day and night (doesn't matter if the legs are too "chunky", or the girl simply cannot normally walk in those shoes), eyebrows that are not even eyebrows, but lines drawn with a pencil lol That's so common there, no one thinks even for a sec that it's very unnatural and looks ridiculous. Oh and make-up, Dear Lord-protector of all that is good and holly, black eye-liner or red lipstick in the middle of the day, brrrrrr...
Of course there are some naturally beautiful and cute girls in FSU, but they are quite rare compared to "high-heeled-drawn eyebrows-bleached-hair" "beauties".

For a laugh I watched Eduard's little movie on his site yesterday, the one where that dude was looking for women. To be quite honest, I thought that most of the "very beautiful" women that were highlighted by Eduard's camera were just average looking girls (most were girls too not women I might add).

What they did usually have "going for them" were tight revealing clothes, long hair, make up and high heels; basically, most looked like they were on their way out to night clubs instead of the shopping they were doing. I think that at least some guys mistake this camouflage for beauty and if those girls were standing there in casual attire without all the preparation and accoutrements they wouldn't be given a second glance.

[Simoni]

... I thought that most of the "very beautiful" women that were highlighted by Eduard's camera were just average looking girls

Forget the "beautiful women" ideal.  The fact is that the average women on the street is very attractive, and that is what a guy needs--not "beautiful" as you seem to want.

What they did usually have "going for them" were tight revealing clothes, long hair, make up and high heels; basically, most looked like they were on their way out to night clubs instead of the shopping they were doing.

Big problem with this statement that reflects your cultural bigotry.   High heels, stylish hair, and beautiful makeup is the norm in the fsu.   You blast it from your cultural bias, and thus the girls for the way they dress, when all they are doing is dressing culturally relevant for them.  Nothing wrong with this at all.  What is wrong is your judging them from outside the culture. The "night club" statement slam you made is totally off base.  If you don't like the FSU, why don't you just keep away?

[ScottinCrimea]

I guess when you're used to no make up, butch haircuts, baggy t-shirts, sweat pants and sandals, anything else seems excessive.

[Misha]

Of course there are some naturally beautiful and cute girls in FSU, but they are quite rare compared to "high-heeled-drawn eyebrows-bleached-hair" "beauties".

That is one of the things that did attract me to my wife, the fact that she did not have to wear make-up all the time. There were plenty of days when we were in Russia when she would go to work without any make-up, and she would usually wear stylish shoes with a relatively low heels that she found comfortable.

[kievstar]

Girls I have dated long term in Ukraine did not wear much makeup (2 girls).  From bed to out the door needed less than 15 minutes.  Was a big surprise to me but was happy.

They do not have the eyebrows either??  Maybe that is a Russia thing and not Ukraine. 

They do wear the high heels but I am very tall and my fiance is only 178 cm or little over 5 foot 10 tall and even with heels she is much shorter than me.  They would wear shorter heels when not around me.  Heidi Klum wears the high heels around Seal as he is tall and Heidi is only 5 foot 8.5. 

[Faux Pas]

Gentlemen (and ladies)

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

One man's trash is another man's treasure

SJ, just because a particular look is right to you doesn't mean it is right for everyone. You've found what you seek, GREAT but why the slam on what may appeal to others?

[Ade]

Forget the "beautiful women" ideal.  The fact is that the average women on the street is very attractive, and that is what a guy needs--not "beautiful" as you seem to want.

I thought it was fairly self evident that those comments were based on my bias?

Maybe my problem is that I prefer natural beauty to that which comes out of a bottle, a box and a boutique.

And from what I've seen there, the women on the street are mainly average with a scattering of beautiful women like elsewhere but then I live in Scandinavia and I guess the average here is way above what most Americans are used to.

Big problem with this statement that reflects your cultural bigotry.   High heels, stylish hair, and beautiful makeup is the norm in the fsu.   You blast it from your cultural bias, and thus the girls for the way they dress, when all they are doing is dressing culturally relevant for them.  Nothing wrong with this at all.  What is wrong is your judging them from outside the culture. The "night club" statement slam you made is totally off base. 

You are intent on making me out to be a bigot of one type or another aren't you? For those that are unaware, Simoni here has had his knickers in a twist ever since I said I didn't give a crap what the bible said in another thread and now has me labelled as a "religious bigot" 

Dude, it has nothing to do with "cultural bigotry". It's about preference. Personally, I just don't find bleached hair, no eyebrows, several mm of make up and a woman tottering around on 6 inch heels to be attractive. Obviously, from some of the remarks I've seen, a lot of guys do like that. I'm just being honest, from what I've seen you get more naturally beautiful women in Scandinavia.

If you don't like the FSU, why don't you just keep away?

See, this is another prime example of someone putting words into another's mouth.

Why not point out where I said I didn't like the FSU. Go on, girdle your loins and go for it. 

[Daveman]

yep, physically beautiful women everywhere for the most part.  To address the OP question of "Why not?", the most common factor eliminating many groups of women from my search is religious beliefs and/or differences there.

[Ade]

Gentlemen (and ladies)

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

One man's trash is another man's treasure

SJ, just because a particular look is right to you doesn't mean it is right for everyone. You've found what you seek, GREAT but why the slam on what may appeal to others?

I'm just passing comment on this myth that seems to prevail that there are more beautiful women in the FSU than any where else in the world. Personally, I do not think there is and I think this myth comes from men that are beguiled by artificial enhancements and tight and/or revealing clothes.

That's not to say there aren't beautiful women there, as there are and I've seen them but dude, if you think there are a lot then come to Scandinavia in the summer. Of course, very large age differences in relationships are a lot more rare here.

[Misha]

I'm just passing comment on this myth that seems to prevail that there are more beautiful women in the FSU than any where else in the world.

I agree. If you go to any university in North America, you will see many beautiful women. There will be few obese women, and no more overweight women than you are likely to find in Russia. Of course, women in their fifties are not going to compare favorably to these young women. This is what seems to be the case here. You have older men comparing young women from the FSU to their ex-wives, the wives of their friends, the women they see at work, etc... Women that are likely to be their age (i.e. far from their twenties). Of course, the younger FSU women will appear much more attractive. However, if you were to compare the average 50-year-old woman from the United States or Canada to the average 50-year-old woman from Russia, there would not be that much of a difference IMHO, in the same way that comparing the average twenty-year old university student from North American and the FSU won't reveal any huge discrepancies in terms of beauty.

[Faux Pas]

I'm just passing comment on this myth that seems to prevail that there are more beautiful women in the FSU than any where else in the world. Personally, I do not think there is and I think this myth comes from men that are beguiled by artificial enhancements and tight and/or revealing clothes.

That's not to say there aren't beautiful women there, as there are and I've seen them but dude, if you think there are a lot then come to Scandinavia in the summer. Of course, very large age differences in relationships are a lot more rare here.

I don't disagree with most of your points but, don't fool yourself into thinking the women are all fat slobs or make-up caked in America either. That too is a myth. There is probably a high percentage of attractive woman in Scandinavia if you are attracted to that particular look than Russia or America but the actual numbers are so much fewer. The point here is, there is no point. What attracts you, may or may not attract the next guy.


SJ, your message was clear enough but your delivery really sucked. Maybe you should preface more with IMO?