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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2009, 11:06:46 AM »
I tend to think that there was something in the package that disturbed her, probably the financial statement of the guy, he was probably in debt or something, and she bailed. That is just a thought.

Why not just tell her up front that one of your requirements is a prenupt?  

Let us keep to the subject, shall we?

I thought it was spot on..

Ambach, one thing to take not of is that the responses will not always be what you want to hear.

If you want to hear only your echo it's probably not worth asking.


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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2009, 11:46:33 AM »
ambach,
is she Moslem? are you going to have her change religion? Since you feel more comfortable in a mosque than christian church you should be upfront about this!
I could not believe how religious these ladies are after 80 yrs of communism. be upfront you are not interested of have very little interest.
 

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2009, 12:03:16 PM »
" He presented himself more than he actually was, I received the packet, had an appoinment in the emabassy in Moscow, I did not go ".
Any clues? Red flags? Things to be careful about.

No red flags, and no clues until you get to know her better.

Things to be careful about: not hurting her by your silly suspicions.

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2009, 12:15:17 PM »
No red flags, and no clues until you get to know her better.


I agree.

Honestly, I have no clue what else her K1 petitioner could attach to his evidence of support that perturbed her so much on the eve of the interview.   
« Last Edit: March 11, 2009, 12:52:19 PM by OlgaH »

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2009, 12:25:55 PM »
Ambach,

Regarding your specific question, just ask her to elaborate.  If she is forthright, she will answer.  No need to guess and speculate.

This new thread is the "same old song."  Again, you show:

-  little insight into women,
-  little empathy for their feelings,
-  and little of the confidence needed to be the strong type of man desired by RW.

You have never disclosed to us what you seek in a RW.  I really believe that you need an intelligent woman who speaks up and tells you that your $hit stinks.  You may not like hearing her say such; however, I think such a woman would produce a fulfilling relationship as well as enhance your business career.

BTW, if you had searched the archives, you would have found the following interesting discussion about cold feet (it got side tracked midway):

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=7813.0


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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2009, 12:54:05 PM »
Gator, I have very fine relationships.

I don't know where you get it that I have some kind of problem.

Just because I like to know many of them is a cause of concern?

I am very happy with my search, which shall continue. I don't have any shortage of women. When I would stop? Time will tell. I am making arrangements for travel to Tver.

Such beautiful and talented women, deeply in love is a new experience for me. These women are very loving and sexy, that would be an understatement.

The only problem is that meeting them takes time, effort and money.

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2009, 01:01:46 PM »
Gator, I have very fine relationships.

I don't know where you get it that I have some kind of problem.

Just because I like to know many of them is a cause of concern?

I am very happy with my search, which shall continue. I don't have any shortage of women. When I would stop? Time will tell. I am making arrangements for travel to Tver.

Such beautiful and talented women, deeply in love is a new experience for me. These women are very loving and sexy, that would be an understatement.

The only problem is that meeting them takes time, effort and money.

Whoa... who is deeply in love?   Exactly how do you define "deeply in love". 

Heading to Tver to meet her in person can't be a bad thing, and yes it takes time effort and money.  But, really, it take a while for the infatuation to grow into the stage of real deep love. 

Passionate infatuation is entirely within the realm of possibility, but it can and does die quickly sometimes.  Deep love takes much more time.

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2009, 01:02:26 PM »
BC, that is coming soon.

But the two other girls, I know I told them about prenup in some detail, and both of them send me love notes every single day, wanting to know when would we meet again. They took it just fine.

Just curious; are these other women aware that you are screwing around elsewhere and that you're not interested in them any more or have you kept them dangling with the hope of a continued relationship?

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2009, 01:06:11 PM »
Gator, I have very fine relationships.

So fine that you discard them quickly after bedding them.  

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I don't know where you get it that I have some kind of problem.

Your posts are replete with the themes I listed.

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Just because I like to know many of them is a cause of concern?

Nope

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I am very happy with my search, which shall continue. I don't have any shortage of women. When I would stop? Time will tell. I am making arrangements for travel to Tver.

You don't have any shortage because you do not know what you want.

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Such beautiful and talented women, deeply in love is a new experience for me. These women are very loving and sexy, that would be an understatement.

Deeply in love?  What makes you think that is true?

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The only problem is that meeting them takes time, effort and money.

The FSU is the best singles bar in the world, yet the price of admission is steep.

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2009, 03:24:35 PM »
Ambach, we all know how this is going to end. You will go to Tver, you will report back as to how you were enamored with the woman and how the sex was phenomenal, and then in a week or so after that you will coyly post a message asking for advice as to the next city you will visit. When asked why things did not work out with the woman from Tver you will tell us she was either too religious or not religious enough... 

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2009, 04:15:50 PM »
Ambach, we all know how this is going to end. You will go to Tver, you will report back as to how you were enamored with the woman and how the sex was phenomenal, and then in a week or so after that you will coyly post a message asking for advice as to the next city you will visit. When asked why things did not work out with the woman from Tver you will tell us she was either too religious or not religious enough... 
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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2009, 04:57:24 PM »
   I have been reading these boards for a long time now and also know alot of RW and UK women do the same. There is one universal truth to all boards. There is always one man who is rich and because he is rich(or pretends to be) knows far more than anyone else on the board

Ambach if you only knew what these women really think of you.

Here is my advice to you on how to get a hot woman. Just go buy one. You claim you have alot of money. There are plenty hot ones that are for sale. They will happily praise Allah with you, be your arm candy, even have sex with you, but it wont be for free. Being a man with a large personal fortune like you have, you already know nothing in this world is free. So pony up, get out the wallet, your destiny and smokin hot babe awaits you.

This is good advice, take it, because the way you go about this,in the end this is the only woman you will ever get.


Real women will figure you out very very quickly

Most here have you pegged. Especially Groov.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2009, 05:01:04 PM by facetrock »

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2009, 05:21:29 PM »
I think you mean UW facetrock. I wish UK women would read these forums, it might prompt them to occasionally walk to the cake shop instead of driving.  :o
« Last Edit: March 11, 2009, 05:27:15 PM by Vinnvinny »

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2009, 05:24:01 PM »
I always wondered what is this with pesonal  animosity. I am doing very well, fine thank you.

Ours is a county of haves and have nots.

The have nots have never liked the haves, since the birth of our country, and that is not going to change now.

But living well is the best revenge, I sleep well, and the thoughts of have nots don't enter my mind. I live in different side of the town, they live in different side, We shall never meet, aceept on chat boards like this where anyone who does not have two nickels he can rub together is a Lion.

So I have said this before, I do fine, and I don't need any advice who can't seem to put away their feelings of being lowly in our society.

As the moderator has said, if you think I don't deserve your opinions MOVE ON.

Let me repeat MOVE ON. Understand?  

Don't post on my psotings, the board witll be a better and more harmonius place.

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2009, 05:47:04 PM »
Ok Ambach I will play along with your game.
You say you are rich, prove it. You say you have a business, prove that too. Put up a link to your business that you own, maybe some of us hear will want to do a little business with you. You can be anything you want on the net.

Long ago I learned that people who bragged of their wealth never had as much as they talked about. People with class that have money dont remind other people that they are rich.

In many of your posts you constantly say " I am doing fine"  " I am doing fine"  If you are doing so fine why are you asking advice from a bunch of people that obviously by your opinion are a bunch of have nots and live on the wrong side of the town.

Another thing that annoys the hell out of me is that when someone gives you advice you dont like you consider it nothing more than personal animosity

My advice still stands. If you are rich just go buy a hot FSU woman because this is what you are all about. You dont really want a wife to love because I believe you are incapable of love. You might love the fact she is hotter than any of your friends wives( if you have any friends)but you will never truly love her. She will be a possession to you, nothing more. Now dont worry about this, like I said there are plenty hot women in the FSU that will be happy to be your possession. But remember it wont be free or cheap. Arm candy is the most expensive kind of candy to buy.

This is in my opinion about the real you, admit it and get on with your life. You need to come to grips with your innerself. Find her, marry her buy her the nice house and BMW and live happily ever after. Go for it, you can do it, you really can!!!
« Last Edit: March 11, 2009, 05:49:07 PM by facetrock »

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2009, 05:58:56 PM »
You still don't get it.

I have nothing to prove to  you.

I want you to get out. Which part of this you don't understand?

Move on, don't post on my threads; I don't know why it does not get through to you.

I welcome people who are civil regardless of which part of town they live in, some I detest.

Have you ever read John Shadows post, Simeoni's posts, these are guys who have a lot to contribute, and very civil. There are many, and that is why I post.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2009, 06:03:01 PM by ambach123 »

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2009, 06:14:34 PM »
   I know you dont want me to post on your threads. You dont want anyone to post on your threads that doesnt buy into your warped sense of romance or can see you for what you really are. You have said it yourself. You are still having fun with the pursuit of FSU women.   In most peoples mind that equals  " sex tourist"

Your not looking for advice here on finding a wife.  Your looking for advice on how to score more babes the cheapest way possible. You want advice on which citys where there are alot of desperate and naive women.

 The reason good honest men have a hard time succeding at this is because to many men like you think the FSU is nothing more than a personal orgy.

Dont get me wrong I love sex, but to make false promises to get sex is something that decent men would never think of doing.

Here is some more good advice for you. Be careful who you sleep with over there. You piss off the wrong woman and you might be dealing with her brothers, cousins and other people you wish you would never have met. Dont laugh, this can really happen

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2009, 06:47:15 PM »
Ambach:

I keep telling you a lot of guys on this forum, are as you say "haves".  My story pick the side you want.  My mother had nothing, most of my father's side is very well off.

The issue is, it is the money dictating your decisions.  I do not know how to be more civil.  You met one woman in Istanbul.  Meet in her town, rent a flat and do not spend money.  If it is a real concern, I will let you in on a secret. 

Some very wealthy men that married FSUW, did it the same way I did.  Want to find out how she lives her life.  Had a genuine interest in who she was and what made her happy.  I just do not sense you want to make someone happy, more like you have the money to make a woman happy.  Her one job in life is to make you happy.

If you would stop focusing on you, and spent more focus on them.  Told us what it is you are hoping to find.  How much money you have, or anything else.  We can try to help you become a more rounded individual.

For the life of me, it is beyond my comprehension.  You are a Turk, knowing full well you are probably in greater than a little danger over there.  Do you understand, that there is a real hatred towards Turks there.

It is not the woman you meet, you need to worry about.  It is the person that you do not want to meet, that I would worry about.  God have mercy on your soul, if you anger anyone of these girls families that you have lost interest in.  There are many people there, that do not have any value in human life to begin with.  A Turk that slighted a precious little daughter or grand daughter, is more than enough to have you hunted like a dog.

It is not even going to matter if she is telling the truth or not, you are guilty before being proven innocent.

You are playing with fire, more than anyone on this forum. 

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #43 on: March 11, 2009, 07:19:59 PM »
 Ambach. I have been to Tver. The local men really dont like white Americans dating their woman and I can tell you with certainty that they will think less of a well dressed Turk strutting around with a good looking woman. Remember the economy sucks over there right now. God help you if you happen to walk by a bunch of young unemployed men half drunk with a good looking woman on a not so well lit Tver street at night

And like Diplomacy says, if you boink one of the local girls and then dump her for another and she tells anyone and I mean anyone, you my friend could be in real deep Shi$

Here is some more good advice. Go to an agency and give them instructions where to send your dead body if it is accidentaly found.

Happy hunting in Tver
« Last Edit: March 11, 2009, 09:43:04 PM by facetrock »

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #44 on: March 11, 2009, 07:36:10 PM »
Ambach,

Gator is correct, you are asking us things that you should be asking the women you communicate with.

Instead of asking a bunch of Monday morning quarterbacks and getting pissed off at their responses do what any other man would do and just ask her the questions you need answers too.

This lady speaks perfect English, you seem to have communication difficulties both on and off board.

Gator is also correct regarding the 'pattern' of your posts. Remember http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=9096.msg170183#msg170183 ?

Same thing, asking us what you should be asking your friend and getting pissed at the results.

As far as thread ownership goes, can anyone really say 'this is my thread' in an attempt to somehow assert who should and should not respond?  You are the topic starter and that's about it.  The rest, as long as it stays somewhat civil is wide open for others to add their thoughts.


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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2009, 07:59:04 PM »
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As far as thread ownership goes, can anyone really say 'this is my thread' in an attempt to somehow assert who should and should not respond?  You are the topic starter and that's about it.  The rest, as long as it stays somewhat civil is wide open for others to add their thoughts.

That probably needs some clarification from the admins as I have heard that "this is my thread" several times before. I wasn't aware that there is "ownership" to threads. My perception was that they were forum threads and open to post on. It would seem logical that if someone wishes for only the backslappers to respond to their OP they should post on a personal blog where they can maintain that control. IMO

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #46 on: March 11, 2009, 08:14:56 PM »
The thing that annoys me is that on this Board, there are numerous people who never read the original post, they make personal insults. Some truly do not comprehend what they read in the opening post.

This is evident just  not in this thread but also elsewhere on the board, to them the poster is is all important, the post is irrelevant. It is entertainments for some, since many of them really have nothing else in their lives, insulting others makes them feel good, and if someone from the fancy part of town doubly good, because in real life, they would never have any contact with such a person. It gives them an opportunity to mouth off the demons they have from being short changed by the lady luck.

Take the example of this thread, here is a situation where the girl is mum, about a past relationship. What has that got to do with me? Absolutely nothing. Something that happened with someone else. I am trying to find out what happened, and she would not say so.

If it was Joe Schmoe, and not me, would that make any difference? Absolutely not about the originial post.  I thought cold feet just before the visa should be a matter of concern to everyone in this pursuit. The poor soul in this case probably dropped 40K and one year in this pursuit. The last time I checked, 96% of Americans do not have this kind of dough. Not many here have that, that is for sure.

But some people, who really have a sickness like leprosy, don't bother to read, they respond not about the post but about the poster with personal insults, completely unrelated to the subject matter.  Unbelievable.

About my safety, I am well aware of it. I take same precautions as everywhere else. The have nots in Russia are no better than the have nots in America or on this Board; the wretched have nots are the same everywhere. Thanks for the warning.

I don't seem to have any shortage of women in FSU, and I see nothing wrong in knowing a few before marrying one. Every single FSU woman I have ever met have known about my background before meeting with me, I made sure of that, so much for prejudice. Several members on this board have seen our photos together, with the ladies. They are attractive, well educated, intelligent, and deeply in love. True there is no litmus test for the last one, just their words and actions. It has been my pleasure to know them.

By the way, we may decide to meet in Budapest, I don't know how easy it is for Russians/ Ukrainians to get a visa? She is checking. Does anyone know?
« Last Edit: March 11, 2009, 09:00:35 PM by ambach123 »

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #47 on: March 11, 2009, 08:35:31 PM »
  Ambach your past history has caught up with you. Your obsession with money is evident in almost every post you make.
 
I quote " The wretched have nots are the same everywhere"  Not only are you obessesed with money you are also arrogant, you measure people by their net worth. You sir are a poor excuse for a human being. These " wretched have nots" are far richer in ways you will never be or understand.

I feel sorry for you. Somewhere in your quest for riches you forgot about humility and respect for your fellow man.

Its funny in a way, here you are searching for a wife among the " wretched have nots" which you obviously despise, in Russia and Ukraine.

For their sake and any other womans, I sincerely hope you fail.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2009, 08:40:58 PM by facetrock »

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #48 on: March 11, 2009, 08:49:05 PM »
The thing that annoys me is that on this Board, there are numerous people who never read the original post, they make personal insults. Some truly do not comprehend what they read in the opening post.

This is evident just  not in this thread but also elsewhere on the board, to them the poster is is all important, the post is irrelevant. It is entertainments for some, since many of them really have nothing else in their lives, insulting others makes them feel good, and if someone from the fancy part of town doubly good, because in real life, they would never have any contact with such a person. It gives them an opportunity to mouth off the demons they have from being short changed by the lady luck.

I'm not defending them or you. I am *just saying* I can't comprehend the ownership "this is my thread" idea. Those people have their ideas and you have yours. It is a community forum Ambach and you'll constantly be graded by the community at-large for all your posts, past, present and future. Everybody won't agree with you or your methods. Some just won't like you or agree with you regardless of the topic or the OP. It is a fact of life on the forums and with life in general.

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Re: Cold Feet, Any Clues?
« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2009, 08:53:07 PM »
They are attractive, well educated, intelligent, and deeply in love. True there is no litmus test for the last one, just their words and actions.

Do all that women in love know that you're testing them and they are in some kind of elimination  contests?

By the way, we may decide to meet in Budapest, I don't know how easy it is for Russians/ Ukrainians to get a visa? She is checking.

Never heard about problems with visa to Hungary.

 

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