Considering looking for a wife in FSU...

[CalvinHobbes]

Hello everyone.

In the past year I've been interested in looking for a marriage partner in the FSU and nearby regions. I've spent many hours online ready about the pros, cons, myths, facts, statistics, etc. I'm 43, decent looking, great health, no kids, great job, no criminal history, like to do a lot of outdoor activities, funny, smart, etc. I've been at a point for the past few years I want to be married and have a family. My first marriage went to hell when she walked out after 8 years due to financial stress.

So the last thing I want, no matter how beautiful is the woman, is someone who will not contribute to the home/work or walk out on me. I've read that many FSU women will say whatever to get married, and then afterwards their true colors come out such as:
- displaying extreme temperments w/out notice of the change,
- love to sleep a lot,
- see love as love as long as it fits their agenda,
- file for divorce if it increases their social status,
- are argumentative, easy to anger, and not soft spoken.

My parents and siblings argue so much that I limit my time with them during holidays. My ex thought 30 hours a week was a long work week and was one of the reasons I was hesitant to have children with her.

I'm not looking for a maid or some hollywood-idea of a perfect romantic woman. But I believe in true partnership - everyone in the home contributes. I need to know what really lurks behind the iron curtain.

The women I date here in Colorado are nice women. But when I go after a 30-something lady because I want to have kids then it's extremely difficult because they don't believe me - they think all i want is some tail for the night.

Though I don't go to church as I used to, I still have a strong faith in God (baptist and charismatic ). I'm very aware that religion is a bigitem for a succesful marriage.

Thoughts? Opinions?

[2tallbill]

Welcome to the forum.

[OlgaH]

Hello everyone.

1) In the past year I've been interested in looking for a marriage partner in the FSU and nearby regions.

2)  I've read that many FSU women will say whatever to get married, and then afterwards their true colors come out such as:
- displaying extreme temperments w/out notice of the change,
- love to sleep a lot,
- see love as love as long as it fits their agenda,
- file for divorce if it increases their social status,
- are argumentative, easy to anger, and not soft spoken.

the third should be a question to ask yourself "Why am I interested in all that mess?" 

Welcome to the forum 

[GoodOlBoy]

Hello everyone........
Though I don't go to church as I used to, ......

Welcome to RWD "heathen".... 


GOB

[JR]

Welcome to RWD "heathen".... 


GOB

Don't make me make you eat ice cream GOB

[JR]

when I go after a 30-something lady because I want to have kids then it's extremely difficult because they don't believe me - they think all i want is some tail for the night.
Thoughts? Opinions?

Hi Calvin?
You mean you don't want some tail?  :evil:......
FSU women can be very much like American women. But they are also quite different.
Define what is important to you.
Keep your eyes open but don't fall in love with a photo.
Get your butt on a plane and come to Moscow with me.
Ask the important questions up front, ie: how many hours of work a week is too many, etc.
Have fun.
SUFFER the eating of ice cream
Never take yourself too seriously, we don't take you serioulsy! Hahahahahaaaa
What else? Can't think of anything so I'll pass the mic to someone else

[Sculpto]

Jolly.. I enjoy your posts.. however.. do as I am about to do.. sign off the internet and go out and do something! 

[Maxx2]

Calvin, do it wrong and you will need to report to my site: www.immigrationfraudvictims.us  or maybe you will get lucky and just lose a small fortune and a few years of your life...

Good luck,

Maxx

[JR]

Jolly.. I enjoy your posts.. however.. do as I am about to do.. sign off the internet and go out and do something! 

Ah I wish I could but I am at work when there is no work. Just waiting to get laid off....
will know by the end of this month.

Hey Original Poster, you contacting anyone from the FSU yet?

[OlgaH]

Ah I wish I could but I am at work when there is no work.

As we say in Russia: a soldier sleeps, and the time of his service flies 

[Marc@LTP]

Think about what you need in your life just not what you want. I married for the mother of my child I got 100% what I wanted not what I needed in my life. My ex is with my child 70% of the time!

Don't make my mistake find the woman thats is right for your life!

[I/O]

- displaying extreme temperments w/out notice of the change,
- love to sleep a lot,
- see love as love as long as it fits their agenda,
- file for divorce if it increases their social status,
- are argumentative, easy to anger, and not soft spoken.

Can confirm most of the above and have been happily married to a RW for a while now.

I/O

[mies]

- love to sleep a lot,
My ex thought 30 hours a week was a long work week and was one of the reasons I was hesitant to have children with her.

which leads me to question:
Calvin, which option looks more attractive to you:

Option 1: woman works 60h/week, earns 2'000/mo, sleeps 5h/night, doesn't go to beauty salons or gym, cooks and cleans apartment daily. Is considering having a child when she will save a bit money and will switch to 40h/week work.

or

Option 2: woman works 20h/week, earns 3'000/mo, sleeps 10h/night, attends gym 3/week and beauty salon 1/mo, does not do cleaning in the apartment but pays 500/mo to a nice mexican lady who comes to clean few times a month. Apartment is clean. Wants a child.

so. whom will you choose?

On a slightly different topic: how do you expect a Russian woman to adapt to American life, bear and raise your child, and be contributing equally to a family budget at the same time? Why do you need Russian woman for this? Is she the most suited?

[Shadow]

So the last thing I want, no matter how beautiful is the woman, is someone who will not contribute to the home/work or walk out on me. I've read that many FSU women will say whatever to get married, and then afterwards their true colors come out such as:
- displaying extreme temperments w/out notice of the change,
- love to sleep a lot,
- see love as love as long as it fits their agenda,
- file for divorce if it increases their social status,
- are argumentative, easy to anger, and not soft spoken.

While FSU women are use to work, do the homework and take care of a child while the father is out making less than she does and
drinking/partying away half of it, you should provide them with a better base.

If you are financially stressed, it is not the time to spend a lot of cash on making trips to the FSU to find someone that meets your criteria. It is not the time to add the stress of having to teach a woman ot adapt to her new environment.
Consider if you have the means to support a family, and some extra for making regular trips to the FSU. If not, stay closer to home.

Good luck.

[Diplomacy]

Welcome

[groovlstk]

Listen to the Kid. (Warning: lots of profanity!)

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddqx_cWUN-g[/youtube]

[CalvinHobbes]

Hey Original Poster, you contacting anyone from the FSU yet?

Yes. I did a profile on freepersonals.ru and received a few responses. Also I placed my profile on elenasmodels.com, russianeuro.com, & anastasia-international.com. These 3 I did not opt to pay for the service.

elenasmodels: 14 women sent me notice of interest within 2 days of joining and only 2 appear to be viable for my taste (yeah yeah I know...don't fall in love with a photo but no offense to anyone in FSU saying there are several "unattractive" women here in the US who are eager to ask me to marry them.) This confirms my suspicion that really hot young ladies in FSU are just as picky as the ones here in the US.

russianeuro: about 12 women contacted me. 3 of these I've begun to email since they sent me their personal email address.

anast-int'l: I'm a bit leary about this site because within 12 hrs of posting I have received emails from ladies who are 18-24 yrs old.

So I haven't paid for any sites yet. Not sure if I want to. Perhaps the best way to go are the free personal listings? Are there other better sites than the ones I have listed?

[Sculpto]

if I had it to do all over again I would not spend one cent on pay sites, especially sites like Anastasia!  Search the forum for other opinions about the scam letter factories... others will disagree and sing the praises of various agency sites and following the concept of using small locally owned agencies instead of large multi city web sites might get you better success if you choose to go the pay site route.

Options include free russian language dating sites, social networking sites like vkontakt and even facebook has plenty of Russians on it now and ICQ which is a popular chatting format in Russia.  I have also found several Russian language match making sites which appear to be legit, though, I suspect very very expensive and would of course require one to actually be in Russia.

Best option in my opinion would be to go across the ocean for no less than 3 months and meet people where people meet.

[Faux Pas]

Calvin

Your description of FSU women actually fits all women in general. Don't buy into the hype whether it be positive or negative concerning FSU ladies. The stereo typing is a very bad idea. There are a lot of train wrecks in this pursuit but, let me go out on a limb and suggest you know personally of a lot of train wrecks in your circle of friends with AM?

Search for the lady not just some lady from another country. I also suggest search for the same type lady that you would in your own country in both appearance and age. Keep the 10 year rule in the back of your mind unless it extends to a lady in her 20's. Then all bets are off and you'll likely find what you fear the most.

Women are the same the world over. Don't think because they are from FSU they are somehow less inclined to be picky. You can find a plethora of hot young ladies in the US willing to take you for a ride too. There are plenty of women in the FSU who are looking for a man just like you for a long lasting and loving relationship and there are plenty willing to ream out your pooh hole. Just like any other place on earth.

Welcome to the forum!

[Daveman]

Calvin

Your description of FSU women actually fits all women in general. Don't buy into the hype whether it be positive or negative concerning FSU ladies. The stereo typing is a very bad idea. There are a lot of train wrecks in this pursuit but, let me go out on a limb and suggest you know personally of a lot of train wrecks in your circle of friends with AM?

This is true.  Train wrecks everywhere, but for some reason guys seem to throw common sense right out the window much more quickly when dealing with FSU ladies (you know, the ole cultural/language differences death trap).

One primary difference that I have seen is that you really, really, REALLY, REALLY need to watch for and weed out the status queens.  I wouldn't say there are more of them in the FSU (though it's certainly possible) but there certainly ARE more who are seeking foreign men.  If you entangle yourself with one of these, I'd say your chance of being miserable and hanging yourself in the closet for escape is just about 110%.  The chance of her upgrading for higher status depends on what status you bring to the table, but the chance of you wanting to toss her into the incinerator will be about a billion percent.  You'll encounter these status queens mostly at the normal agency type sites, and far less (at least from what I have seen) at the off the beaten path places such as ICQ.  Of course all the agency/web site ladies aren't bad, but be prepared to weed out a bunch of babes with angelic photos.   

If you do this the smart way, you'll be tossing out a lot of fool's gold to find the real nuggets... and when you find a nugget, then you need to make sure you fit together in life. There's a different between a good woman and a right woman.  Being in a hurry is a major Achilles heel.

Search for the lady not just some lady from another country. I also suggest search for the same type lady that you would in your own country in both appearance and age. Keep the 10 year rule in the back of your mind unless it extends to a lady in her 20's. Then all bets are off and you'll likely find what you fear the most.

I would agree with that bold part if our beloved FSU ladies did not have such sexy accents.. gorgeous eyes.. and and and, well, other wonderful attributes.   

Women are the same the world over. Don't think because they are from FSU they are somehow less inclined to be picky. You can find a plethora of hot young ladies in the US willing to take you for a ride too. There are plenty of women in the FSU who are looking for a man just like you for a long lasting and loving relationship and there are plenty willing to ream out your pooh hole. Just like any other place on earth.

Welcome to the forum!

eeeeeeYep. 

[PeeWee]

What's easier is to find a nice RW or UW right here in the USA. There are thousands of them to meet. My community is filled with hundreds and I did find a nice local Russian lady the other day on Match.com living not more than 30 minute drive from my home! Also I was at a meeting at Boeing last month, in Seattle, one of the hosteses at the meeting was a Russian gal. I now can tell an Eastern European woman just by looking at her. She was married but I did get enough time with her for her to feel comfortable with me for me to ask her if she had a Russian girl friend of two. She did and she was more than willing to introduce her to me. My point is something to consider is that you may not have to look to far from the tree to find that what  you seek. Consider it.

Peewee

[Misha]

Your description of FSU women actually fits all women in general. Don't buy into the hype whether it be positive or negative concerning FSU ladies.

I agree with you. It seems there is a virgin/whore dichotomy that plays itself out. Either RW are portrayed the saintly traditional women (the virgin) or they are the sinister GCG or pro-dater (the whore). In my experience, most RW are decent, hardworking women. They are certainly not perfect (the men are not perfect either), but most do not fall into the negative stereotypes either. The challenge for the men is to find a good woman who is compatible. This takes time and the ability to judge a person's character. It also means that beauty and youth should not be the sole driving force when looking for a wife.

Search for the lady not just some lady from another country. I also suggest search for the same type lady that you would in your own country in both appearance and age. Keep the 10 year rule in the back of your mind unless it extends to a lady in her 20's. Then all bets are off and you'll likely find what you fear the most.

I agree. However, when I met my wife, she was in her 20s (26 to be exact). I was 36. My wife was and is a wonderful woman. However, I had the good fortune of spending enough time with her to ensure that we were compatible and shared similar values.

Women are the same the world over. Don't think because they are from FSU they are somehow less inclined to be picky.

I agree. The goal is to find a woman who is being picky when choosing you IMHO.


[/quote]

[ambach123]

Pee Wee I don't have any first hand experience with FSU women living here. I can only tell you, what I have read here, and the archives.

There appear to be two kinds of FSU women, one who have discarded the AM who brought her here, and are looking to trade up.

The second are here without a legitimate visa and are looking for a sponsor.

Both should be avoided like the Bubonic Plague of middle ages.

If there is a third kind I would like to know.

If finding a sincere RW was so easy to do here, AM would not be going half way around the world, and spending a substantial chunk of change to find one.

[Misha]

There appear to be two kinds of FSU women, one who have discarded the AM who brought her here, and are looking to trade up.

The second are here without a legitimate visa and are looking for a sponsor.

Both should be avoided like the Bubonic Plague of middle ages.

If there is a third kind I would like to know.

There are those women who married men that they love in spite of his failings and were fortunate to meet men who loved and married them in spite of all their failings. Maybe it is rare, but it does happen.

[GoodOlBoy]

What's easier is to find a nice RW or UW right here in the USA. There are thousands of them to meet.

PeeWee, I agree completely!

I live in SIB (Sunny Isles Beach, Fl) and there are hundreds (at least) of FSU single girls/women in their 20's, 30's and 40's living here.

The only problem that I find with some of the divorced ones that my wife knows, is well.......they seem kind of "jaded" (cynical) after marriage to an AM.  


GOB