Ukraine vs. Russia, Pros and Cons?

[OlgaH]

I hope your wife doesn't read this forum!!!   

I guess she doesn't need to she probably hears it everyday 

[Gator]

HiTech, sorry, I wasn't referring to your wife.   I didn't even know if you were married (should have looked at your avatar, I guess, idiot me...   )   Sorry again, I also get very defensive when people start talk about my better half.   

Ooops, there you go again, being polite and a real lady.  I thought you were just being cynical about another man saying he did not intend to marry a much younger woman when he first started looking at RW.  A lot of us have said such.  I guess we men are easily distracted from our plans.

Hitech, we know that your woman is special (she certainly looks special) and nothing that you had to "settle for."  However, the way you phrased your explanation sounds exactly that way (the "settling" part, not the "chick" part). 

[JR]

Egads!  I think it's my ex! :whirling:

So she's hot huh?

OK, I gotta say it...even though I know Sandro won't be listening

I want Candy ! ! !  ! !

[chivo]

Bored1, do you mind if I point some mistakes in your English?   I know, that I wouldn't mind myself, actually I'd appreciate somebody telling me about the mistakes I do in foreign language versus sweet-coating it and saying "you're doing great!" when I'm not.   

We "make" mistakes and "sugar coat(ing)" is more common. Just trying to help since you asked. 

To the OP. Choose the woman and not the area.

To anyone who thinks he/she blends in; you don't. They might not take you for an American but, they know you're not native. I get asked for directions all the time. Nobody thinks I'm Russian, they just expect me to speak the language since I'm walking down the street.

My favorites though, are the people who stop me and ask me if I speak English. I usually speak to them in Russian initially, and then say "yes, I speak a little English". Most of them tell me my English is quite good  .

chivo

[Ooooops]

... not the "chick" part...

What's wrong with "chick"?   I find it rather cute...      We have a Texan friend, he calls me "chica".   I like it.   

[Sculpto]

chick and chika are different...

chika in Mexicano has no negative feeling to it.. its a compliment.. chick in american english is symbolic of guys who don't respect women..

[Ooooops]

We "make" mistakes and "sugar coat(ing)" is more common. Just trying to help since you asked. 

Thanks, sometimes my fingers are faster than my brain...     

[Ooooops]

chick in american english is symbolic of guys who don't respect women..

Really?   So to say "he's got really hot chick for a girlfriend" is offensive?   

[Sculpto]

depends on who you are talking to.. but in my neck of the woods.. using the word chick will offend some and cause a loss of respect from others..

chick = stupid girl (even if she is hot)

[Ooooops]

chick = stupid girl (even if she is hot)

Never heard of such meaning...

[SANDRO43]

Chick/chicken for empty-headed girl is a rather international allusion, given the unimpressive IQ of those courtyard birds (another unflattering epithet ). A snippet from Indietro tutta! (Full Astern!) a very popular, satyrical comedy show from 1988, featuring its Ragazze coccodé (Cockadoo girls) :

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl6PJMlKEvg[/youtube]

[Faux Pas]

Ooooops...chicka is still used frequently in the American south as an affectionate term. The term chick was used in the 60s, 70s and on into the early 80s as a description of most any female until the politically correct crowd deemed it unfitting for use as they have many others. 

[SANDRO43]

Ooooops...chicka is still used frequently in the American south as an affectionate term.

Chica is standard Castilian for young girl, as Chico is for young boy, with Chiquita and Chiquito as diminutive variations .

[Ooooops]

Chick/chicken

Chick and chicken ain't the same, as I see it.   Chick is young, cute and lovable...   

[Ooooops]

The term chick was used in the 60s, 70s and on into the early 80s as a description of most any female until the politically correct crowd deemed it unfitting for use as they have many others. 

I see...   

[Faux Pas]

Chica is standard Castilian for young girl, as Chico is for young boy, with Chiquita and Chiquito as diminutive variations .

SANDRO, I think few who even use the term as I described even know the origin. I did, but I have some familiarity with spanish. It's used relatively frequently in my area with affection.

[OlgaH]

Chick/chicken for empty-headed girl is a rather international allusion, given the unimpressive IQ of those courtyard birds (another unflattering epithet ).

In his novel "The Master and Margarita" Bulgakov mentioned a frivolous ditty.

Его превосходительство любил домашних птиц. И брал под покровительство хорошеньких девиц

(His Excellency loved domestic birds and took under his patronage some pretty girls)

[SANDRO43]

Chick and chicken ain't the same, as I see it. Chick is young, cute and lovable...

Oksana, you're terminologically correct:

In the UK, Canada and Australia, adult male chickens are known as cocks whereas in America they are called roosters. Males under a year old are cockerels. Castrated roosters are called capons (though both surgical and chemical castration are now illegal in some parts of the world). Females over a year old are known as hens, and younger females are pullets. In Australia and New Zealand (also sometimes in Britain), there is a useful generic term chook (rhymes with "book") to describe all ages and both sexes. Babies are called chicks, and the meat is called chicken.

"Chicken" was originally the word only for chicks, and the species as a whole was then called domestic fowl, or just fowl.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken

However, for common usage, go to a farm and listen when somebody comes out in the courtyard with a pail of feed and goes "Here, chick, chick, chick...": the chook will flock regardless of their age and sex .

[Gator]

Chick and chicken ain't the same, as I see it.   Chick is young, cute and lovable...   

Oooops,

How are you doing today, sweet pea.

[Sculpto]

sweet pea.

See now that is a kind and affectionate term that has no negative connotation.

Faux wants to deride what he calls political correctness.. yet fails to understand that a lot of women were and are offended by the connotation of the term "chick" and therefore rallied against its use.  I would suggest his opposition to the use of appropriate language in reference to women would be an indicator of a larger gender perception issue on his part.

[Ronnie]

chick and chika are different...

chika in Mexicano has no negative feeling to it.. its a compliment.. chick in american english is symbolic of guys who don't respect women..

I don't speak Spanish so I defer to Sculpto.  However, I was under the apparently mistaken impression that the Spanish alphabet, like Italian did not have a "K" except for use in foreign words. 

[Sculpto]

I don't speak Spanish so I defer to Sculpto.  However, I was under the apparently mistaken impression that the Spanish alphabet, like Italian did not have a "K" except for use in foreign words. 
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no "K" in formal spanish.. kute people in mexiko use "K" to be kool.  LOL

[Ooooops]

Oooops,

How are you doing today, sweet pea.

 

[Boethius]

I had vacation time due and had been planning to go to Mexico when my Mom called and informed me she had found the name of her grandfathers village in Galicia.  I lost a weekend on google looking at maps and finally found the village which no longer exists.  It was located between Lviv and the modern Polish border.  I started reading about Ukraine, saw MOB sites and thought they were a scam and decided to go to Donetsk because I found an article that spoke about Donetsk being against the Orange Revolution.  You all know I am interested in politics and liberation movements and I was fascinated by the fact that Donetsk is a very big city and there is so little information about it on the web.  Stoked my curiosity and I chose to go there.

I would be very surprised if the village no longer exists.  Ukrainian villages generally don't just "disappear", unless they were burned down by the Germans (that was very common).

I suggest you visit ukraine.com/forums and ask about the village in the Genealogy section.  The posters there are extremely knowledgeable, and will be able to find information for you, if it is online.

Donetsk has always been a really working class town.  Kuchma is from that region, which is why it favoured Yanukovych.

[Sculpto]

Boethius..

thanks for the interest.. I suspect the Germans burned the town.. I doubt many Jewish villages survived intact.  Its been four years since I did that research, but I do remember that I was not able to locate the place on any map newer than the revolution.  So, who knows..

As far as Donetsk.. it is exactly its working class, non tourist identity with a large dose of opposition to the Orange that attracted me to it.  I was very surprised how pleasant it was and how laid back.  The center is certainly not the impoverished hell hole I was expecting, though, Makeevka and other outlying areas were a bit of a shock, even for someone like myself who has travelled in some pretty poor parts of Latin America.