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Kharkiv (Jan - Feb 09) - My experience so far
« on: May 30, 2009, 05:11:51 AM »
Hello everybody, since i have just become a member of RWD, i thought i would write down my own personal experiences whilst looking for a partner in the Ukraine. Before i start this trip report i wish to make it clear that is not a personal attack on Mila, just my opinion and experience of her translating/matchmaking services.

Many RWD members have had positive experiences with Mila and i respect their opinion, but this is only an account of my experience. My trip report will be submitted in two parts since i do not have the time to finish it today.

For the members who don't know, I am a UK Citizen of spanish/indian descent. I am 27 years old and i am a psychologist by profession. I have never had trouble attracting women from the U.K but i found myself becoming more interested in meeting eastern european women after dating a lithuanian girl, a few years ago. In general, i find eastern european women are more family orientated then their western counterparts (Which i personally prefer).

My first step was to correspond with single women on websites such as freepersonals.ru. After eliminating a few scammers, i narrowed the search down to two women who both lived in Kharkiv. After talking my decision through with a friend (who has been through this process, successfully before), he recommended Mila and RWD. After doing a little research i decided to contact Mila. I told her of my interest in ukrainian woman and the type of woman i was looking for. My criteria was simple and clear, i was hoping to meet females between the age of 18 - 27 who didn't have any children. After corresponding with Mila various times through skype and e-mail i decided to use her translating/matchmaking services whilst in kharkiv and i also asked her to place a newspaper ad.

In addition, i also also asked Mila to arrange an apartment for me, which would meet western standards, we then agreed a price of $60.  A few days before leaving Mila told me that the apartment she was going to rent for me was now $65 a night. I found this irritating, since we had agreed a price beforehand and she had now changed it, but i agreed anyway since an apartment is personally more suitable for me and it was too late to do anything about it.

Before leaving on my three week journey to Kharkiv, i stopped corresponding with one of the women i met through the websites since she bought up the subject of money before we even met.

It was late January when i finally arrived in Kharkiv. It was like something out of an old 60's movie! Mila picked me up from the airport with her husband and I was then taken to the apartment. The apartment was nice enough so i had no complaints about it.

During my first full day in Kharkiv, i met the only girl from the websites who managed to survive the screening process. After going to a little cafe and talking for a while, i found that i didn't have any chemistry with her, even though she was interested. So i made my excuses and left, she did however give me her phone number in case i wanted to meet again (I was honest with her during our date, telling her that i would be dating other women so i would see how things turned out, she took it well, which was a relief!).

For the next 10 days i met girls from the newpaper advert, and also girls Mila personally knew. My newspaper advert got 50 replies, so i wasn't short of dates lol. I did beforehand clearly state that i didn't want to meet any single mothers. but 70% of the women i met through the newspaper advert were single mothers. When i tryed to explain to Mila i wasn't happy, she said to me  "Don't worry, i know what i am doing". I had a feeling she might be doing this intentionally but i couldn't be 100% sure. 

Most of the women i met during my time in kharkiv did show an interest, so it was hard to decide, but after some serious thought i narrowed the search down to three girls. I then decided to stop meeting girls from the newspaper advert after day eleven, and concentrate on the three girls i had chemistry with, since i was wary of Mila. However i still had to use Mila's services since she had introduced me to two of the girls i was interested in and of course i had no way to contact them independently at this point.

Day eleven was the last day i met girls from the newspaper advert. The first two meetings of the day didn't go well but the last girl of the day was beautiful and spoke english well. This girl had worked in the U.K before and was honest about the fact that she couldn't go back because her visa expired and she couldn't get another one. I was wary of her intentions but i couldn't rule her out of the reckoning on this fact alone since she had been upfront and honest about it. With all the girls who were good looking and responded to my advert, Mila tended to take more of an interest and speak to them more then the girls who weren't as attractive. (I have no problem with the fact that she may introduce girls who have responded to one newspaper advert to another customer, since Mila was honest and open about it). As the date went on i asked "I" if she wanted to go bowling, since i wanted to spend more time with her. So the three of us went to karavan, "I" certainly appeared interested and since i am a psychologist i can notice the signs of attraction. However, after an hour or so Mila told me that "I" wasn't interested in me and that she had a talk with her in the bathroom .This was fair enough and i carried on enjoying a few beers, this rejection wasn't so bad since i did have three other options (women) to fall back on.

After the date Mila and her husband caught a taxi home but she didn't seem too keen on the idea of "I" sharing a taxi with me, however i insisted since i lived on the way to her house, and it was cheaper for both of us. Anyway, on the way home i was talking to "I" and in her broken english she explained that Mila had told her that she would ring her later and tell her if i was interested in her and whether i wanted a second date. This news came as a shock to me, since Mila had informed me that this girl wasn't interested in me. My inexperienced showed here, and instead of taking her phone number i told her i would talk to Mila since i was sure there would be a reasonable explanation for this. Since it was late i thought i would ring Mila tomorrow.

When i text messaged Mila on day twelve telling her what "I" had told me, she did not reply, this was unusual since she would normally get back to me straight away, so i waited. After a few hours, i decided to ring her, when we first spoke she didn't mention the incident and when i pressed her on the issue, Mila then told me she lying. she then quickly changed the subject and asked about my schedule for the day. In my experience as a psychologist, i know that in general, people only change the subject quickly if they have something to hide since most people in that situation would protest their innocence. I am a trusting person by nature so i gave her the benefit of the doubt again.

I will try and post part two of my report tomorrow. Thank you for reading





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Re: Kharkiv (Jan - Feb 09) - My experience so far
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2009, 05:58:07 AM »
Part two of my report

Since Mila introduced me to the three girls i was interested in at this point, i had no choice but to arrange dates through her. However, i did learn from my mistake with "I" and get their mobile numbers so i could contact them through a friend when i got back to the U.K, just to get a second opinion.

During the remainder of my stay i dated the three girls i had chosen, here is a brief summary of how it went: -
 
Ira - From all the girls Mila introduced me to, Ira was the one who showed the most visible signs of being attracted to me. After a few dates, i found that Mila was trying to push me towards her (She may have done this because she found her genuine, i don't know), but the decision is ultimately mine, and after getting to know her i didn't think she could be the one, so i didn't see her again.

"O" - The second girl was 25 years old. We hit it off since she has some knowledge of the English language and is attractive. I was honest with her from the beginning and explained to her i was dating other women, she said she didn't mind and that she still wanted to see me. Since i got back to the U.K we still keep in touch.

"A" - What can i say about her? she is beautiful and she took my breath away the moment i saw her. Our first date went well and i didn't want it to end. However, Mila had arranged for me to meet another girl. When i told "A" that i had another date, she got a little jealous! however i took it as a compliment.

Everything was going well till our third date, "A" then told me that she had a child! Mila had met "A" a few times and when i asked her whether she knew that "A" had a child, she became flustered and denied knowing anything about it. I was honest with "A" and i told her that it would take some time for me to get my head around it, she still wanted to see me, so we continued seeing each other.

I find "A" difficult to understand like most FSU women! During our dates, I noticed that she could be emotionally distant at times, this may have been due to the fact that she didn't know me that well. However, she did start warming to me near the end. I took her clubbing on one date and even the fact that she was ill didn't stop her from coming  ;D. "A" wanted me to meet her mum and son which i did on two separate occasions, i took this as a good sign. I asked her mum whether she would allow "A" to move abroad and she said that she would, as long as "A" is happy. Before leaving "A" told me that she loves me, is this usual? I didn't think i would have that effect after a few weeks with her. Since returning to the U.K, myself and "A" have also kept in touch.

A further two incidents occurred which made me very unhappy with Mila's translator/interpreting services. I had invited "A" to a club/restaurant complex so we could make a night of it. Mila asked me if her husband and two friends could come along. I agreed (since it's always good to go in a group). When we were paying for entrance to the club, Mila asked me for 1000 grivna! (basically paying for everybody's entrance and drinks etc for the night!). She put me in an embarrassing situation since i would look cheap in front of "A" if i refused, so i reluctantly paid. In hindsight i should have refused to pay all the money and just pay for Myself, Mila and "A", but again it was my inexperience and the fact that i didn't want to look cheap.

The second incident occurred when Mila told "A" i wouldn't be ready for marriage for another two years. To her credit she did tell me what she had said. I make my own decisions and i don't need anyone planning my life. So i told her in no uncertain terms, that subjects such as marriage are private and between myself and "A". She wasn't too happy at this but i had to make my position clear.

I think i am a patient man but after these experiences i had just about enough. My trip was nearly at an end by this time, so i thought i would see it through with Mila, since i couldn't find a replacement at such short notice. The rest of the trip occured without incident

In summary, i have kept in contact with two of the girls. However i have started to doubt A's intentions, First of all she asked me to send money for her son when he was sick (which i did, just in case it may have been true) She then asked me for money for her mother's car, since she had smashed it (I didn't send money on this occasion, and i told her i didn't have it). "A" has still kept in contact with me even after i refused to send this money, so it is difficult to see her intentions one way or the other. Any opinions on her guys?

In regards to Mila, i think she may have tried to take advantage of the fact that i am young, inexperienced and do not speak the Russian language. However, I am an expert in human psychology and i know when i am being taken advantage off. Due to my bad experience i wouldn't use Mila's services again, but i did pay her in full for the work she did. Since coming back to the U.K Mila has learnt that i have kept in touch with the girls independently of her and she also found out that a friend of mine translates for me (free of charge) when i talk to the girls. She wasn't very happy and sent me a rude email. However, i thought i would rise above these schoolground tactics and let the people who's opinion matters (the RWD members) decide who is right or wrong.

Thank you for reading




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Re: Kharkiv (Jan - Feb 09) - My experience so far
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2009, 02:09:06 PM »
Nice trip report.

Normally in Ukraine you pay for a table which the money goes towards drinks.  Was the 1000 Ukraine dollars for a table or did you stand up during the nightclub? If you did not get a table, I could see a problem. 

You maybe using psychology to much to analyze things.  I have been trained for years to use my personal behavior to throw people off (including 1st dates) and observe behavior to help in interrogating people for work (sexual harassment, foreign corrupt, fraud investigations).  I have noticed that many RW will not follow the norm of book read psychologists. RW make great spys.  :D

Dating two RW at the same time will end in disaster.  A is going to milk you for money. 

Looks like you had fun dating several women at the same time and will help with your confidence issues. 

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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2009, 03:02:29 PM »
I don't know Mila so I am not going to make any comments about her or the now two negative reports.  But, I am going to write about what I think the job of a person in Mila's shoes, is.

Translate/interpret. 

Do not forget WHO is paying for your service. 

You are for that time a contracted employee and your job is to best represent your employer. 

That means, not giving misleading or incomplete information to the client. 

Absolutely not violating trust by giving confidential information to the ladies. 

Do not attempt to influence a process.  You are there to bridge the language gap, nothing more.

Do not try to be a matchmaker, unless you are professionally qualified to be a matchmaker and have all the appropriate degrees and experience required as well as compliance with IMBRA and the appropriate business registrations in your locale.

that covers the basics of language stuff.. there are other small details but not as important..

now.. acting as a personal assistant and arranging things for visitors..

When you quote a price do not change the price at the last minute.  I would rather pay a little extra than have a surprise at the last minute.  Not all visitors will have this restriction, but, when I travel internationally I have a budget.  My budget allows for a little flexibility and unexpected expenses, but, if I budget $60 for an apartment and suddenly it is $65 or 70.. its not that I can't afford it, but, that I feel I am being screwed.  I hate feeling like I am being screwed.. I hate feeling like I am being taken advantage of..

example.. On my first trip to Donetsk I arranged an apartment in advance.. it was $60 a night.  After I had been in town a few days my new friends were shocked how much I was paying and wanted to help me find a less expensive place.  When I informed the apartment agent she was furious.  I had paid in advance for a week but planned to stay possibly a month.  I gave her three days notice.  She had ample opportunity to offer me a better deal on that apartment or find me a less expensive place.  But, not until after a last minute confrontation and some yelling did she inform me she could get me a cheaper place.  But, was she nuts?  She just yelled at me!  Did she really think I would agree to give her more business?  Then, her parting words were.. "call me when you sleeping on street and need help, you can not live in Donetsk without my help"  HAHA stupid woman.. instead of $60 a night I paid $200 for the next three weeks in a cleaner building with a better location.  I later learned this same woman is the Donetsk rep for "chanceforlove.com"  and has participated in organizing the AFA socials in Donetsk.  Obviously I would not advise using her services.

Same principle would go for any other logistical services a provider is offering a visitor.  Be transparent, consistent and demonstrate integrity. 

Do not expect the client to pay for your party.  When I was in Kherson and I was paying for every taxi everywhere.. it really annoyed me when we were busy dropping off people.. picking up others.. all on the way to meet my date.. why the heck was I expected to pay for HIS errands?  I was happy to pay to pick up my date and pay to send her home.. but not so the agency manager could get a free ride to do whatever he needed to do.  I was already paying him $10 an hour as a terp.. so.. when he was wasting my time that really pissed me off.  When I brought it up.. he tried to turn it around on me that I was being cheap and it would look bad to the girls.  Oh well.. then lets walk where we need to go.. I like to walk.. I would like to see this city.. "oh no you can't walk.. no one walks"  yeah ok so all those people on the street are not actually walking.. they aren't even real people.. idiot.

Service providers are just that.. they provide a service.. the quality of that service is directly related to the success of your business.  Exceed my expectations and I will tell everyone I know to use you.. I will go out of my for it.  Screw me over and you will get th same from me in return.  I just shut down another revenue source for that scamming agency manager in Kherson.. two years later.. I didn't forget about him.  He will wonder why all his agency profiles are being removed one at a time for all the major sites.. he will never realize he screwed over the wrong client.  I will not be satisfied until I am sure NO agency will use him and he is out of this business. 

I am not the only client that would do this.

If you are a service provider and reading my words and are surprised and don't know how to improve your business.. here is what I suggest.  Imagine yourself alone in China.. you can not speak the language and you do not know anyone.  You have offered your hard earned money to a person who is a translator and guide.. what do you want them to do for you?  How will you verify that all you wish is being done to your expectations?

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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2009, 03:33:50 PM »
I agree with Kievstar that i may analyse things to much and i also agree with the fact that FSU women are hard to analyse, but some things are just plain obvious! If you read all of my report you would see that there were just too many coincidences. As they say there is no smoke without fire.

One point i think Kievstar has misunderstood, is the fact that i do not have a problem with paying 1000 grivna for a table, I do however take issue with being expected to pay for three people, who are nothing to do with me or my date!

I hope this clear's up any misundertandings

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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2009, 03:45:06 PM »
Sorry, there was one thing i forgot to add. I do not have any confidence issues. Like i said before i have no problem finding women to date here in the UK. I just find FSU women generally are more family orientated and more willing to commit to a man, and it is this personality trait that i personally value in a woman.

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Re: Kharkiv (Jan - Feb 09) - My experience so far
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2009, 03:57:01 PM »
Part two of my report

Since Mila introduced me to the three girls i was interested in at this point, i had no choice but to arrange dates through her. However, i did learn from my mistake with "I" and get their mobile numbers so i could contact them through a friend when i got back to the U.K, just to get a second opinion.

During the remainder of my stay i dated the three girls i had chosen, here is a brief summary of how it went: -
 
Ira - From all the girls Mila introduced me to, Ira was the one who showed the most visible signs of being attracted to me. After a few dates, i found that Mila was trying to push me towards her (She may have done this because she found her genuine, i don't know), but the decision is ultimately mine, and after getting to know her i didn't think she could be the one, so i didn't see her again.

"O" - The second girl was 25 years old. We hit it off since she has some knowledge of the English language and is attractive. I was honest with her from the beginning and explained to her i was dating other women, she said she didn't mind and that she still wanted to see me. Since i got back to the U.K we still keep in touch.

"A" - What can i say about her? she is beautiful and she took my breath away the moment i saw her. Our first date went well and i didn't want it to end. However, Mila had arranged for me to meet another girl. When i told "A" that i had another date, she got a little jealous! however i took it as a compliment.

Everything was going well till our third date, "A" then told me that she had a child! Mila had met "A" a few times and when i asked her whether she knew that "A" had a child, she became flustered and denied knowing anything about it. I was honest with "A" and i told her that it would take some time for me to get my head around it, she still wanted to see me, so we continued seeing each other.

I find "A" difficult to understand like most FSU women! During our dates, I noticed that she could be emotionally distant at times, this may have been due to the fact that she didn't know me that well. However, she did start warming to me near the end. I took her clubbing on one date and even the fact that she was ill didn't stop her from coming  ;D. "A" wanted me to meet her mum and son which i did on two separate occasions, i took this as a good sign. I asked her mum whether she would allow "A" to move abroad and she said that she would, as long as "A" is happy. Before leaving "A" told me that she loves me, is this usual? I didn't think i would have that effect after a few weeks with her. Since returning to the U.K, myself and "A" have also kept in touch.

A further two incidents occurred which made me very unhappy with Mila's translator/interpreting services. I had invited "A" to a club/restaurant complex so we could make a night of it. Mila asked me if her husband and two friends could come along. I agreed (since it's always good to go in a group). When we were paying for entrance to the club, Mila asked me for 1000 grivna! (basically paying for everybody's entrance and drinks etc for the night!). She put me in an embarrassing situation since i would look cheap in front of "A" if i refused, so i reluctantly paid. In hindsight i should have refused to pay all the money and just pay for Myself, Mila and "A", but again it was my inexperience and the fact that i didn't want to look cheap.

The second incident occurred when Mila told "A" i wouldn't be ready for marriage for another two years. To her credit she did tell me what she had said. I make my own decisions and i don't need anyone planning my life. So i told her in no uncertain terms, that subjects such as marriage are private and between myself and "A". She wasn't too happy at this but i had to make my position clear.

I think i am a patient man but after these experiences i had just about enough. My trip was nearly at an end by this time, so i thought i would see it through with Mila, since i couldn't find a replacement at such short notice. The rest of the trip occured without incident

In summary, i have kept in contact with two of the girls. However i have started to doubt A's intentions, First of all she asked me to send money for her son when he was sick (which i did, just in case it may have been true) She then asked me for money for her mother's car, since she had smashed it (I didn't send money on this occasion, and i told her i didn't have it). "A" has still kept in contact with me even after i refused to send this money, so it is difficult to see her intentions one way or the other. Any opinions on her guys?

In regards to Mila, i think she may have tried to take advantage of the fact that i am young, inexperienced and do not speak the Russian language. However, I am an expert in human psychology and i know when i am being taken advantage off. Due to my bad experience i wouldn't use Mila's services again, but i did pay her in full for the work she did. Since coming back to the U.K Mila has learnt that i have kept in touch with the girls independently of her and she also found out that a friend of mine translates for me (free of charge) when i talk to the girls. She wasn't very happy and sent me a rude email. However, i thought i would rise above these schoolground tactics and let the people who's opinion matters (the RWD members) decide who is right or wrong.

Thank you for reading


Dear Az1,
I'm sorry to here that you feel that your trip wasn't very good for you.But why did it take you so long to post about the problems that you incurred with Mila,till now?Since your a physiologist,normally don't you deal with the problem and rectify it right away?Buy the sounds of your trip it seems to me that you actually had a good time and met several ladies.I just returned from Kharkov yesterday.I had a great time with Mila and her husband.They made my trip enjoyable and fun.I can't believe half the stuff you wrote about her.I believe that your upset that (A) took your money and you had to blame someone and that someone had to be Mila.Also if you are so set on meeting Ukraine women,then I think you need to be able to speck there language.I don't know their language but when I return next year.I will.Why you ask?Because if you care enough for something or someone you go the extra mile.Even when I speck  there language,I will continue to use Mila as my interpreter.Once again I sorry that you feel the way you do.

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Re: Kharkiv (Jan - Feb 09) - My experience so far
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2009, 04:23:20 PM »
In reply to jesterjohn, i have been away for personal reasons to India. In this country you would be lucky to find a phone, never mind an internet connection in some of the remote areas, so i haven't had many opportunities to post my trip report.

If you read my trip report properly you would understand that i am actually still in contact with "A", and losing a few hundred pounds doesn't really upset me since i have a well paid job. If you do not believe my account of what happened that is fine, everybody is entitled to their own opinion.

I did have a good time but that was only due to the fact that i always make the best of the hand which is dealt to me. By the way, I am actually learning russian at the moment and a friend of mine who is fluent is teaching me.

P.S It is spelt psychologist not physiologist  ;D


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Re: Kharkiv (Jan - Feb 09) - My experience so far
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2009, 04:25:01 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2009, 04:29:35 PM »
sculpto you are right,  :cluebat: however spelt is a word, look it up  :D

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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2009, 04:36:09 PM »
  
AZ, why do I get the feeling you sent "A" more money than just for her child being sick? Care to come clean or am I wrong? And why do you complain about some girls having children and this "A" woman you later find out has a child, but its suddenly ok. In fact it was ok enough for you to send her money after you returned home. Funny how forgiving us men are when a woman has a child and she is so beautiful she takes our breath away. Those are your words. I am surprised you didnt understand this being an expert on human psycholgy.
 
 Sounds like you latched on to the wrong woman. Her mothers car getting smashed is an old and worn out story. So is the sick child story for that matter. Glad you didnt fall for the second one because I bet it involved alot more money.The first scam is always the cheapest. Did Mila warn you that this woman might not be honest? Did she say anything at all or just let "A" take advantage of you?

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Re: Kharkiv (Jan - Feb 09) - My experience so far
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2009, 04:36:54 PM »
spelled hahahahahaha.com

Conjugation of 'To Spell':

Base Form:                       Spell
Past Simple:                     Spelt/Spelled
Past Participle:                  Spelt/Spelled
3rd Person Singular:          Spells
Present Participle/Gerund:  Spelling
http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/irregular-verbs/spell.html

Eric, you illiterate oaf :(, both forms are correct ;D. "Spelt" is usually preferred usage in Britain, whence the OP hails.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2009, 04:42:38 PM by SANDRO43 »
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2009, 04:42:10 PM »
Conjugation of 'To Spell':

Base Form:                       Spell
Past Simple:                     Spelt/Spelled
Past Participle:                  Spelt/Spelled
3rd Person Singular:          Spells
Present Participle/Gerund:  Spelling
http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/irregular-verbs/spell.html

Eric, you illiterate oaf :(, both forms are correct ;D.

hey.. you must be using an ENGLISH dictionary.  but mostly I was making fun of someone using a spelling to call out someone else.. hence my fav website.. hahahahaha.com

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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2009, 04:44:59 PM »
hey.. you must be using an ENGLISH dictionary.
I was under the impression we were using THAT language here, compadre :wallbash: :D
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Re: Kharkiv (Jan - Feb 09) - My experience so far
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2009, 04:48:35 PM »
You are wrong facetrock, i only gave her money once. If i did give her money more then once, i would say so! it's not like i would be embarrassed, since i do not know any of you personally.

If you read my report, you would see that i didn't give her any kind of commitment when it came to her child, i told her i would see how i felt if the relationship progressed. I will be honest with you and say Mila did warn me, however she did this with every girl i met.

By the way i have forgotten more then you have learnt on human psychology, so let's discuss this further when you have a degree in my field.


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Re: Kharkiv (Jan - Feb 09) - My experience so far
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2009, 04:51:30 PM »
Az1.. calm down..

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Re: Kharkiv (Jan - Feb 09) - My experience so far
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2009, 04:54:39 PM »
You are right sculpto, it's getting late over here and I'm getting irritated. I am sorry if i offended anyone.

Good night

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Re: Kharkiv (Jan - Feb 09) - My experience so far
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2009, 05:08:10 PM »
   Why were you even seeing her if you wernt sure you could make a commitment to a woman with a child? I thought you were firm on no single mothers?  Come on admit it. This beautiful smokin hot UW walked in and before she sat down your brain matter left and was replaced with testosterone. Hey, dont feel bad its happened to me too a few times over there and many veterans here. But sadly she had another agenda and it wasnt your feelings it was your wallet.
   I think you miffed about it and want to blame someone. Nothing worse than spending alot of time with a woman and then find out she is nothing like you thought. But live and learn and I think your degree in pschology might help you with women someday.
   
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Re: Kharkiv (Jan - Feb 09) - My experience so far
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2009, 05:18:18 PM »
help you with women someday.
   

perhaps instead of pimping any agency or guide we should all kick in ten bucks and start a school for dudes who are clueless with women.. not sayin anything about you Az1.. just saying in general..

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Re: Kharkiv (Jan - Feb 09) - My experience so far
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2009, 05:20:38 PM »
She (Mila) wasn't very happy and sent me a rude email.

Hello Az1.

I am curious.

Would you be so kind as to post Mila's rude e-mail for our own inspection?


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Re: Kharkiv (Jan - Feb 09) - My experience so far
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2009, 05:25:45 PM »
  He wont do it. But I think soon here, hell hath no fury like a Ukrainian interpreter scorned.
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Re: Kharkiv (Jan - Feb 09) - My experience so far
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2009, 05:26:48 PM »
Hello Az1.

I am curious.

Would you be so kind as to post Mila's rude e-mail for our own inspection?


GOB

lol GOB..thats not really fair is it?  On tha otha hand.. might be interestin

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Re: Kharkiv (Jan - Feb 09) - My experience so far
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2009, 06:25:58 PM »
Ok G.O.B here is one of the e-mails, and i will post another one straight after this. 


i want to talk to you through skype‏
From:    Mila (L.Mila@meta.ua)
Sent:    22 March 2009 07:15:02
To:    ASIF BHANA (asifbhana@hotmail.com)

Hi Asif! I want to talk to you through skype ASAP. I am very upset with you and it is even disrespect to me. After everything i did for you, you found different interpreter??? Very sweet of you! I can come to her house i told, so what's the problem?????????????????????????????????

I wonder, who found you this interpreter? I offered Anya to come to her house, she refused!So, what's the problem??? I am not stupid and i know that she said that she would like to have different teacher, but in reality, she will never learn English, as she doesn't have a desire. She will just spend this money on stupid things, not even on her son! I am fed up with that, one more  time like that and i don't want to see her any more. Any when you got burnt with her, you will regret and remember my words.

Mila

P.S: she told me on the phone that she had no idea about different teacher and she doesn't want somebody to come to her house.

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Re: Kharkiv (Jan - Feb 09) - My experience so far
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2009, 06:27:25 PM »
Here is the second one, guys. Make your own minds up


bye‏
From:    Mila (L.Mila@meta.ua)
Sent:    22 March 2009 19:59:52
To:    ASIF BHANA (asifbhana@hotmail.com)

Hi! I was glad to meet you and since this time, you and Anya are not exist for me any more.Yes, i will return all money back.Bye and good luck!!!

Mila

 

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