Why I want to marry a younger woman...

[GoodOlBoy]

115 = heavier than average RW??????  Size 6????......Either your wife was a midget or something does not add up.

Maybe she is just "big" boned?  


GOB

[Blues Fairy]

Maybe she is just "big" boned?  

Or has no muscle mass which is, BTW, denser than fat (as are bones, for that matter).  But still, 115 is light even for a short woman.

[Faux Pas]

The trouble is, there are a lot of companies without a sense of social responsibility taking advantage of basic human nature to the detriment of society as a whole. And no, they aren't the only ones at fault here but they are certainly one of the pieces in the whole puzzle.

Good successful marketing ALWAYS appeals to the masses weakness and lust. It's what separates the successful products from the flops. Thats not to say the successful products are always the best or vice-versa 

[Ooooops]

  But still, 115 is light even for a short woman.

That's the worst kind of man who transfer their own inferiorities onto women they date...    :evil:   

[Taz]

Nah, the worst kind of man is the one who lets a woman walk all over him. Too many men let women do that. There is difference between caring for a woman and being a doormat.

Since some of you are really hung up on the weight topic. I started a new one with a poll as well. Go here:

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=9746.0

[Ooooops]

Nah, the worst kind of man is the one who lets a woman walk all over him. Too many men let women do that. There is difference between caring for a woman and being a doormat.

Good luck to you, man.   You'll need it.   

[Taz]

As I've mentioned before, I don't rely on luck. Thanks for the wishes though I'm doing just fine in the potential mate department.

[phantom]

Tallking about marry younger women, or girls.  My great-great grandfather married my great-great grandmother when she was 16...he was 35.  Not me.  Forget the young ones.

[groovlstk]

FWIW, stating your preference for a woman's weight may be crass, but how is it any different from profiles of the many RW who are only interested in men whose income is above a certain threshold, or who live in a certain country (other than her own), or who have a full head of hair, or who are over x" tall?

There are many superficial considerations at work on either side of the gender divide, yet most people are very reluctant admit to their own.

[Taz]

Tallking about marry younger women, or girls.  My great-great grandfather married my great-great grandmother when she was 16...he was 35.  Not me.  Forget the young ones.

I agree about that. At 19 the women isn't mature yet. The original topic is more about a younger woman than one very young. It is more of the age difference than the absolute age.

[Taz]

FWIW, stating your preference for a woman's weight may be crass, but how is it any different from profiles of the many RW who are only interested in men whose income is above a certain threshold, or who live in a certain country (other than her own), or who have a full head of hair, or who are over x" tall?

There are many superficial considerations at work on either side of the gender divide, yet most people are very reluctant admit to their own.

I never stated a weight preference in the profile I once setup on a dating site. I can bet though that every man looks at the age, height and weight of a woman. I'll bet the woman looks at the age, height and income of the man (if stated). On a biological level, most people want their offspring to have good chance of being successful.  Being attractive and having sufficient income improves those odds of success. Attractive people have more opportunities in life. Its been shown time and again in many studies. Being overweight typically detracts from physical attractiveness for most people.

Whether we agree that it should be this way or not, the facts are the facts. Otherwise nobody would post anything about these topics. We all have our criteria for what is important. If don't like redheads, then look for a blonde. Maybe you want a musician, not a mechanic? Is that crass? You want what you want. I just don't want a BBW telling me I MUST want her! I'd prefer an averaged sized woman.

[AramisLux]

Taz:

thanks for putting a lot of good information out there for me to think about. in one way, i almost think you should have stopped responding to Ooooops. you dignified his critical responses when Ooooops really didn't even deserve to get further replies from you. based on what Ooooops has put into this thread, i have come to the conclusion that Ooooops is probably just an a$$. might put him on my ignore list.

i agree with everything you have written in this thread. way too may people assume love conquers all. this is why we have way too many divorces. love has no more power in it than does lots of types of very destructive behavior. i think mature, prudent, and wise people understand this naturally.

could i get you to elaborate on what happened with the rw that you left behind? i gather it had a lot to do with an inability to trust you. could you be more specific about what happened and how she behaved? this is a very important topic for me as i have had lots of trouble in the past with women acting out and behaving in lots of weird, destructive ways. insights you are giving me into the rw-uw female is really helpful for me.

thanks again...

[AramisLux]

sorry, i assumed Ooooops was a man (even while guessing she sounds just like a woman).

let me rephrase: i have come to the conclusion the SHE is an a$$. might put HER on my ignore list.

[Sculpto]

Aramis.. what the heck are you talking about?  Oooops is awesome as are most of the FSUWs here.  They bring a perspective that is very very real to the discussions, even the ones I disagree with.  Their intelligence and method of debate is shown quite clearly.. I think if you find fault in that you might be headed for a train wreck.. JMO, nada personal

[Misha]

That's the worst kind of man who transfer their own inferiorities onto women they date...    :evil:   

Men do not hold a monopoly in this department  When dating, I met more than my fair share of women who projected their insecurities onto men. For example, my first gf (not Russian), for example, always hated my shyness, even though she was more timid than I 

[AramisLux]

Sculpto:

i can't think of one reply i have seen from Ooooops that supports what you wrote, but i will admit i don't have lots of experience here.

in this this thread, she was almost intolerable: continuing with her arguments when any reasonable person would have let go and stopped the beating that she was taking.

she behaved like a nut in this thread and should apologize. just my opinion. i am tired of reading replies like hers here.

[Boethius]

I fully understand what Ooops was stating, and I don't think it was unreasonable or disruptive.

I don't have a problem with someone saying he is not attracted to a fat woman, nor do I think that is waht Ooops was objecting to.

Taz (and apparently, you) will never get what Ooops is saying.   

[groovlstk]

Sculpto:

in this this thread, she was almost intolerable: continuing with her arguments when any reasonable person would have let go and stopped the beating that she was taking.

You're complaining to Sculpto about this????? 

she behaved like a nut in this thread and should apologize. just my opinion. i am tired of reading replies like hers here.

If anyone should apologize, it's you. If you want women to tell you exactly what you want to hear, go back to chatting with prostitutes on Hot Russian Brides.

[AramisLux]

it isn't about that (wanting to be told what i might want to hear).

and i am NOT complaining to Sculpto.

you know nothing about what i want to hear. and you know nothing, or very little, about my experiences at hrb. now you are the one that should apologize.

Taz displayed remarkable patients with this nut. this forum is filled up with too many crazy people who want to argue with other posters even when we are careful as hell about expressing our opinions. what Ooooops put into this thread is a real good example of this.

now we have to always state bs like "in my own opinion and in not all cases (we know there are always exceptions)" almost every time an opinion is posted by anyone. it gets really tedious.

[Sculpto]

Aramis are you wasting money on HRB?  Dude.. we need to talk.. I can help you.. its an addiction that leads NOWHERE!

[Gator]

Ooooops,

Keep posting girl.  You are always refreshing, and your insights should make men think even if they disagree with you.

Aramis,

You are missing the point of the RWD forum.  Think about this some more.

Taz,

You disclosed some big numbers regarding your weight.  It is good that you are endeavoring to lose it and keep it off.   BTW, how tall are you?

My initial reaction is that you are obsessed with this issue.  However, I am the last person who will try to psychoanalyze anyone.  If you do marry, just be sure that you do not use weight as a principal measure of the value of your wife.

If you have found the right woman for you, the changes in her weight will not matter. You should use that as guideline for testing the depth and dimensions of your relationship with a women.

Some women as they age will have difficulty keeping their weight.  If you make it an issue, she will feel that you are pushing her away.  Your woman should never feel such because she may look for someone who thinks she is attractive.

My only recommendation is to marry a thin woman 42 years old or older.  Such a woman is blessed with good genes and will likely keep her weight off.  She may eventually suffer from osteoporosis, however.  Does that matter to you?

[AramisLux]

i never suggested that Ooooops was being disruptive. what i am trying to say is that she was being completely inane with her arguments and not very carefully about responding to the substance of what Taz has written here. i found it very tedious.

i think i understand what Ooooops wanted to try to argue here, but if anyone would care to try to explain the value of her posts or what it is she was trying to communicate, please do it. i am certain that it will be very amusing.

how do you love the way groovlstk goes off with his completely prejudicial, unfounded, and very stupid insults. i have read about five or six of his/her posts at this forum and about fifty percent of them are just like the one posted here: completely insulting in a presumptive, generalized half a$$ed way and wholly unintelligent. it is really a joke. why not try to provide input based on what you know instead of what you don't know.

what makes you think i am even using hrb lately? do you even know anything about it? no, you don't.

[Sculpto]

Aramis.. lighten up dude.. sheesh.. groove has ridden my arse to hell and back and I still think his posting style is fine..

and if you are using HRB.. not that its any of my business.. I hope you understand that nothing you have been made to believe is true.. I can prove it.. if you want details you can PM

and one last thing.. to Gator.. you are awesome.. your wisdom and tact really shines.

yeah I am ina good mood.. my girl has been really sweet lately 

[Taz]

Gator - I took the time to patiently try and explain to people who don't get it. I am not obsessed about the issue. I tried to explain it in several different ways. It is far down the list of priorities. If someone actually read about what for me are AUTOMATIC disqualifications, you would see I didn't list weight as one of those. Read this post and you will many people just don't get what I was trying to say. They got fixated on the weight issue.

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=9689.msg188597#msg188597

To save the lazy people the time, I'm quoting part of that post here. Tell me where I am OBSESSED WITH THIS ISSUE! Obviously many of you haven't carefully read what I wrote.

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While lust is important, I don't let it overcome my judgment. I've dated enough "hot" women in the US and abroad that I don't have a "kid in the candy store" mentality. A key differentiator for me is NOT her physical beauty. It will typical whither with time. I want a woman that is at least reasonably attractive but with a wonderful personality who happens to think I am the best man in the world(for her) and not too jaded to believe she has actually found me. Fortunately my experience has shown there are more of these type women in the FSU than in the US or Canada. I am not a loser and the people from this board that know me in IRL know that. I am well educated, articulate, caring, loyal and definitely appreciative and respectful of the RW/UW I meet. I am not hideous ugly and I take good care of myself. I have the financial ability to continue this pursuit without issue and take good care of my future woman.

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If you love someone enough you will deal with a lot of sh!t. I know that I was married but some stuff you won't deal with. Sometimes what you see when you are first dating is the tip of the iceberg. I don't need to see the whole iceberg to know that I don't want to deal with it. For me there are key issues that I won't tolerate. For example I won't tolerate the following:

Smoking
Alcoholism
Drug abuse
Infidelity
In-law meddling
Terrible stepchildren

Those force an immediate DQ! Other are not immediate but I will reflect upon them and decide if they are something I can truly tolerate. Usually if there is one issue from one of my lower tiered concerns, it won't be an automatic DQ, combine a few of them though and I'll really need to reflect on what the overall relationship means to me. For example combine nagging, lazy and sarcastic and it is a sure bet I won't stay with here. Either one of them on their own I could deal with to some extent but combine them and they create a potent cocktail of doom for the relationship.

An additional point is love can't always conquer all. I am too realistic for that. It goes a long way but it can't do everything. Additionally your eyes need to be wide open until you get to that point of deep love and don't close them even then. I am very tolerant of the women I love and their faults. I can accept a lot but somethings will drive me away. I want a woman I can love up close, not from a distance. I want a woman I can love every day, not just from time to time...

No where is WEIGHT in my top list of priorities that will cause me to immediately pass on a woman? I swear some of you only "hear" what you want to hear, especially Ooooppssss! It is was many of you that wanted to seize the weight issue. It is well down my list. I just fed the "monster" of people that wanted to seize that issue.

While I appreciate the FSU women that post here, all they say should not be taken as the gospel or they speak for all FSU women. Additionally woman that have moved her often start to become more like AW. I've seen it time and again. Their environment changes and they become more like AW and less like the RW they were. This is only natural as they adapt to their surroundings. Maybe this is good, maybe this is bad. It all depends on your viewpoint. Regardless it is inevitable. How much they will change is open for discussion. My ex changed little in some areas and more in others. A friends or ours changed a lot. Regardless there was obvious and significant change in many areas. I spent many hours helping her adapt. I helped her with her education even long after we were divorced. I was her rock when she had very tough times because of things her daughter became involved in. So I don't care how obsessed you think I am about weight, you are totally wrong and all the people that know me IRL know that as well.

As AramisLux says, it becomes tedious to have to qualify every statement you make. If you don't on this board you'll have people like Ooopppsss want to jump on your posts. That is why fewer people are willing to post. I could easily attack inconsequential things she says to dispute the validity of her overall points but what is the point? I have wasted enough of my time on drivel like if my ex was a size 6 and 115lbs. Yes, she was a size 6 now get over it. I bought her the clothes myself. I know how her body was structured. She had a big chest and unlike many flat chested women of 115 lbs that were a size 2 or 4, she needed a bigger size to clear her breasts. So what is it to you? Are you her tailor? She wore a size 6 from 115-125 lbs. I didn't monitor it, she did before some clueless person says I am anal about her weight. She used the same weight log I did as for tracking her weight.

As for any woman in my life, I'd never post any relevant details about her in a forum such as this that might adversely impact our future relationship. I am loathe to talk about any current relationship. While I do it from time to time, I am pretty closed about. Why invite any more people to attack or Monday morning QB it. I swear that is all some of you have to do anyway. People on this board that have met me know what kind of man I am. They all know what I went through regarding my ex. They know I tried to take good care of her. Many saw how she changed over time both emotionally and physically. They will all tell you I never made a big thing about her weight. I am merely taking the time to write so people understand what can happen when their woman gets here. I have yet to see a RW that didn't gain weight when she got here. Of course some RWD pundit will trot out an example to try and prove in one remarkable instance I was wrong. You can damn well bet that YOUR RW once she gets here will gain weight. That is a safer bet than betting against the odds. The only question is how much. The next question isn't if she will change other than just physically, but how much she will change psychologically.

[Sculpto]

Taz.. I think it was more your writing style that got people riled up.. maybe the message got lost in the presentation.