What's her game, I wonder?

[phantom]

I wasn't sure where to post this one.  At first, this lady in the Ukraine, in about her 10th letter, struck me as a scammer, as she said the old line, "I believe I can get visa to come to your country."  Then some sexual talk.  Okay, trash that.

Then, today she wrote me again, saying it's impossible for her to get a visa to come to USA, so I would have to come there and invited me, to meet her in Kiev and take the train or plane back to her city.  Can't figure this one.  Then, she was talking about going for walks, talking, movies and dinner.

[Ade]

I wasn't sure where to post this one.  At first, this lady in the Ukraine, in about her 10th letter, struck me as a scammer, as she said the old line, "I believe I can get visa to come to your country."  Then some sexual talk.  Okay, trash that.

Then, today she wrote me again, saying it's impossible for her to get a visa to come to USA, so I would have to come there and invited me, to meet her in Kiev and take the train or plane back to her city.  Can't figure this one.  Then, she was talking about going for walks, talking, movies and dinner.

Yes, it's impossible to believe that genuine FSU women consider visiting a guy in his own country and like sex too.

[Shadow]

Without a money letter there is never a proven scam.
I get Russian spam, and many of that is about visa ti the US and Europe, so for those who never tried it might seem a possibility until they actually inquire.

[SMS60]

Who knows? You cant sit around and over think this stuff. You will put yourself in the nut house.

Good possibility.......She has learned from the past. She is going to push this along ( since you dont know) to see your true intentions.

If she senses you have no intentions of meeting her she will move on.

[chugay]

Hmmm... I want to tell you that it is really difficult to get a visa to the USA or Europe for aspecially young Russian woman!!! We have to show everything what we have here in Russia to show that we are going to come back, it is the first thing!
The second is the meaning that if you are the MAN you should do the male deed!!!

[Ade]

Hmmm... I want to tell you that it is really difficult to get a visa to the USA or Europe for aspecially young Russian woman!!! We have to show everything what we have here in Russia to show that we are going to come back, it is the first thing!
The second is the meaning that if you are the MAN you should do the male deed!!!

Yes, we know. And I think he knows too. Looks to me as if he's suffering from the usual unfounded paranoia that a lot of guys do.

[NJ]

I don't really think that there is some game over there based on what you have posted. If this girl is unexperienced in international dating she may not have known all the difficulties of getting a visa to the US or Europe. By the way getting a travelling visa to Europe is not hard to a young single woman even travelling alone when she buys a tour with hotel booked.

[groovlstk]

Phantom,

You've been posting accounts of your chat adventures w/Russian women here for what seems like years. There was the woman who's daughter took a strange interest in you, the countless "is she scamming me?" posts, questions about travel to the islands, etc. As far as I can tell you've written to hundreds of women yet never bothered to make any visits. Do you enjoy wasting people's time?

[Gator]

Yes, it's impossible to believe that genuine FSU women consider visiting a guy in his own country and like sex too.

 

You do have a sense of humor, even if it is sarcasm.  This is the first time that you made me smile.  Be kind to Phantom - his parents may have been Norwegian.

[Ade]

You do have a sense of humor, even if it is sarcasm.  This is the first time that you made me smile.  Be kind to Phantom - his parents may have been Norwegian.

Well, if that's the first time you must be a very tough cookie or you've missed some of my better moments.

[Sculpto]

hahaha she talked about sex.. FYI.. there are at least two casual sex dating sites based in Russia for Russians.. but of course all Russian women are virgins till marriage.   

[phantom]

Hey Groovstink,  if it's a waste of time, don't waste your time replying, that simple.  No, I haven't made a trip yet.  How many years have I been posting, as you know soo much Groovstink.

It wasn't a casual sex site, it was Toplop, she just replied to my profile and gave me her email.  I just found it funny she brought up sex, as I've never had a Russian girl do that before.

Groovstink, maybe I'll stop and just go down to Nevada and sleep with Sunny Lane, might be better for a non FSU Traveler like me.

[GoodOlBoy]

Phantom,
You've been posting accounts of your chat adventures w/Russian women here for what seems like years. There was the woman who's daughter took a strange interest in you, the countless "is she scamming me?" posts, questions about travel to the islands, etc. As far as I can tell you've written to hundreds of women yet never bothered to make any visits. Do you enjoy wasting people's time?

Have to agree with Groovlstk here.

Your "credibility" Phantom, might be a little "strained" on RWD since you have been posting the same thing for years and NEVER reported any travels to the FSU. 


GOB

[Sculpto]

so lets ask the question directly.. Phantom.. why haven't you gotten on a plane yet?

[phantom]

Well, since you asked, the reason I haven't gotten on a plane yet, at the time when I was going too, I started going through something, called "Panic Attacks". (Not related to this)  and throw in a bout of depression, I won't tell what I went through to bring it on.  But, now over that crap, I will be meeting a lady this year or two ladies.  I'm ready to go.

Now you know, GOB and go ahead Groovstink, give me your insults.

[jdk1963]

Now this is a rather happy coincidence.  I meet what I believe at this point is a nice Russian woman from Moscow this week.  After exchanging a few emails we started chatting a couple of days ago.  Today she asked me if I like oral sex!    Caught me completely off guard.  After some thought I replied "I'm a man what do you think?"  She answered with "I like it too."  I guess she just wanted to see if I was willing to do the Male Deed! 

Now all I need to do is confirm she does not go by the name Yuri and I'll be booking a flight!

[Sculpto]

Phantom.. thanks for being honest.  Sorry you had to go through that stuff.. I hope you dealt with the issues properly or at least got the right meds. 

jdk.. awesome man!  Go get her!

not to derail anything.. but I think there is a sexual revolution going on in the FSU right now.  Maybe its been going on for a while.. I don't know.. but I have evidence that tells me things are getting very wild over there and a lot of the prudism of the past is not only disappearing but people are going out of their way to make up for lost time.. especially the younger women. 

The first time I had a hint of it was about a year ago when I discovered an Azerbaijani forum (was looking for info about Armenian culture) which I read from top to bottom.  The most active topic was titled "sexual revolution in Baku" and had hundreds of pages of postings which I read start to finish.  I have since seen clear evidence of similiar things.  I also got spammed twice in the last week for casual sex sites which I mentioned earlier.  I poked around a bit just out of curiosity.. makes fling and that other one look tame... both those sites are 100% Russian language and on the same free format concept as mambo..

Something is going on thats for sure..

[jdk1963]

Yep and if that does not go well when I there I can always consult Sandro's list!     Either way it's a Happy Ending!

[facetrock]

  Many, many, wonderful RWs like to talk about sex. And many practice what they preach. God bless their horny souls.

[jdk1963]

  Many, many, wonderful RWs like to talk about sex. And many practice what they preach. God bless their horny souls.

I fear that this one may go by Yuri when not online!

[jdk1963]

I think I can put this one in the too good to be true category.  She wants me in Moscow yesterday!  I have not called her or seen if she matches the photos.  After explaining to her that I wanted us to know each other a little better and that I would be coming to her country where I do not speak the language and do not know anyone other than her she suggested meeting in another country.  If we had met before that would be fine.  As I have not met her and I am sure I would be expected to spring for her to travel it sounds a lot more like a scam.

[Sculpto]

I think I can put this one in the too good to be true category.  She wants me in Moscow yesterday!  I have not called her or seen if she matches the photos.  After explaining to her that I wanted us to know each other a little better and that I would be coming to her country where I do not speak the language and do not know anyone other than her she suggested meeting in another country.  If we had met before that would be fine.  As I have not met her and I am sure I would be expected to spring for her to travel it sounds a lot more like a scam.

relax man.  have you talked to her on the phone?  Her suggesting meeting in another country is her trying to make things easier for you.

Not every lady is a scam!  In fact most aren't.  RELAX

[Ooooops]

  Many, many, wonderful RWs like to talk about sex.

With a total stranger?   Sounds weird to me.... 

[Gator]

With a total stranger?   Sounds weird to me.... 

I think this depends upon both the man and woman.  Only a couple of RW have discussed sex with me before a first meeting, and that was a brief, "matter of fact" PG-rated discussion.  However, it is not my style to discuss sex with a stranger.  Perhaps another man would have had these RW revealing more than they ever thought possible.

Different strokes for different folks.

[Ooooops]

Different strokes for different folks.

There is nothing to talk about after those words...