Why Exactly I married a Russian Woman!

[dokrog]

People. Please refrain from posting on this thread until I've formulated my thoughts offline and posted the gist of where I'm at here. I promise it will be early evening est. Then you can have tons of fun commenting.

[dokrog]

The gist of this thread is to get all you guys out there to tell us exactly WHY you want or did marry a Russian woman. A little different from a personal thread I think.

I'm going to lay it out and actually speak out loud some realities of russian women that don't often get spoken and we'll see how much commentary I can scare up.

First to understand why I married a russian woman you have to know me. My history. It all plays a part trust me. And the best part is, none of this is made up in the slightest.

Part 1.

As a wee lad of 5...ok moving forward 13 years. Shortly after my 18th birthday I joined the United States Marine Corps. Why? Something to do and was tired of working at a car wash. Marine Corps life was fun, sort of. After boot camp and then helicopter school I get my orders sending me to to 1st Anglico, camp pendleton. That would be force recon for all you monkeys. Of course they didn't need a helo mech so they made me a clerk. typist. There was little common sense in those days. Not that there is now, but the option of simply transfering out to a helo squadron where I was supposed to be was never offered and probably not considered either. So yeah, did all that, the clerk go's with the unit and trains with the unit etc... After 2 years I get the chance to apply for embassy guard duty. Now they make you take a battery of tests for that just like when you join the ASFAB. This one more concentrates on situations and languages etc. Well I scored a little too high I think and was assigned temp to Seoul Korea. Now as is typical with any service the usmc operates on a shoestring with never enough people anywhere except in places where you don't need them. TO's were always way understrength.So the day I get there I'm transferred again. This time as a temp courier. 4 hours later with a nifty new passport, they took my old one damn it. I'm on my way to moscow with 3 others transporting several crates of "embassy materials". Who knows what was in them, I certainly didn't. I think in retrospect I was sent only because I was too new and young to be anyones tool. This was in 1982 at what was probably the height of the cold war.

Now Moscow was soooo coool. Bright lights, really my first major city besides detroit and los Angeles. Sure in 1A I went to dozens of countries on maneuvers but that was always the boonies etc. And the women!

OMG The Women!!! Beautiful. I was convinced every other one was a spy too. How I wished with all my heart I would be lured into a secret roundevue to have my brain sucked dry! *Coughs* As it was. The first time I was there was for 4 days. I was told simply to stay out of trouble after being forced to watch a very dry black and white film on keeping my mouth shut. I was released. Yayyyyyyyy! Off I went.

First of all. Getting laid was incredibly easy. Everyone loved Americans. Everyone. The spetznaz's they had lurking outside the embassy were really cool guys. A couple officers a couple troops. First the amenities. Swapping american cigarettes for russian ones. Then a sip of vodka (only when off duty of course) then having them tell us where the chicks were. but the chicks were EVERYWHERE! sEX was very plentiful and easy and the best thing is...They looked just like americans. Or maybe since their history is longer than ours...we look just like Russians??? Whichever is fine with me. I made a trip there quite often, probably every other month or so for a stay from 4 days to about a week waiting on a return. I usually had 2 Russian girl friends going at the same time. Now that was keeping me busy let me tell you. They were so adventurous, so eager to please. Woo Hoooo. You think I'm kidding. I am in no way kidding. It was nirvana to be surrounded by a dozen giggling russian girls all beautiful, with my arm around the best looking one.

The only bummer is that as hard as I tried, I never met a beautiful Russian spy. Damn it! They all must have been working western europe at the time, i figured. That and the only brains I had at that time were way down in my torso and obviously didn't hold any state secrets. lol

Embassy duty only lasted a year. Was supposed to be 2 but again my orders get changed. Major Bummer! Off I go to HML 267 camp pendleton, helicopters at last!!! Only 3 years late. Jeez. Of course arriving there they realise that I've never had a full tour overseas. Seems courier duty doesn't count that way because I was never permanently stationed. Soooo 2 mos later I'm off to okinawa. Man what a boring place. Japanese people are great and I've made some really nice friends but it's not like Germany or Russia or even finland.

But I'm still a young guy. I'm 21. So I get on a tad to the phillippines to play with some Mindinao rebels. yes I volunteered caus I was ex 1st Anglico and thought I was a bad ass. Still alive though! Anyways. Yup you guessed it. Screwed my way through that place too. WTH.After awhile I volunteer for another TAD to chung ju south korea caus the north was supposedly acting up "again". Talk about boringgggg. And I'll tell you this people. Korean women do absolutely NOTHING for me. I wasn't attracted to them at all. But... I was able to use my passport and take some vacation and go to moscow. Now that was extremely pleasant. Damn I missed that place. It was only for 2 weeks but it brought back so many memories and I got to stay at the embassy barracks free. How's that for luck.

Cont.....

[dokrog]

Part 2.

Well that was it for the USMC. My time was up and it was time to leave. Lots of good memories. lot's of bad ones too. So I left. condensing this. Ended up marrying an AW from NC That lasted 8 years. Had a son. Got custody of him. In all that time only went to Russia once. Because I couldn't shake that damn country out of my mind. Went for 2 weeks when things were especially tough during the seperation. Met some good people. Wasn't allowed to stay at the embassy anymore and MY GOD things had gotten expensive there. This was around 1990. Everyone was uptight. Still got laid though, although I noticed a lot of girls were trying to get me to take them away from Russia this time. It was unbelievable. Lot's of hard stares from the guards and lot's of rude people. Was quite irritating actually. Was pulled in for questioning twice and threatened twice more to be pulled in. Still got laid though. *grins*

Now in all this time. The one thing the marine corps taught me was to have fun because you never knew what might happen tomorrow. That and it was just as cheap to buy airfare from NC to Europe as it was from NC to CA. $200 or so planefare either or. So why spend my vacations in america when I could simply fly overseas??? For the same price???

At this time I think I was working for wells fargo security. Did a little of this and that for awhile. Kept me busy.

OK. getting ahead of myself again. have to concentrate on the timeline. My ex-wife and I seperated halfway through our marriage. That is when I went to moscow. Yeah I was a dog. so what. I was a big dog ok! So I come back and I'm doing security stuff and my wife hates it that I'm gone all the time. She never wanted to come with me. she was family stuck. couldn't do without her parents, siblings, etc. Never wanted to travel. My son was born in '93. shortly thereafter I'm divorced. She had her issues. Why else did I get full custody of him in 98? During that time I never went to Russia at all.

So now I have my son. I'm a supervisor over construction at a union plant in NC working the 3rd shift which suited me. I finally completed my degree in electrical engineering and of course I get the 3rd shift. Or the stick...something like that. I'm a bachelor and I make plenty of money with a new gf every couple months. I'm wild and a party animal from hell. Yes all that! So I get notice from my attorney that custody is in the bag. But wait...She takes off with the kid to virginia beach VA to try to escape the summons. Well. She gets arrested for interstate flight and kidnapping and VA becomes involved. OMG. A signature of the Federal Child Custody act, they still have to make sure everythings ok for the welfare of the child. Now get this. Because she has no means that means they get to legally bill me. YEs me. For psych evals and counseling for the wee lad and state attorney fees caus I have to be rep'ed. OK basically 11 thousand later I'm told he'll be in my arms in exactly 3 months and not to come to VA before that. NO contact. Sighs. so what do I do?

Well at this point I'm totally stressed out. My life savings is gone. 14k for attorney fees overall then another 11k to the state of VA. I even had to sell a small property to help pay for all this. (I have been accumulating property since I was 18. My father raised me to believe SS wouldn't be here forever and to plan for my own retirement. Buy property. After all. their not making any more of it you know.) So I take a leave of absense for 3 months because I just can't stand it here anymore. I go to London. Then France, very briefly, then to Germany. Party for awhile then meet some cool german and norwegian dudes and off we go to Finland. Damn those blonde beauties were/are sweet. got laid tons. In Finland I meet a sweet girl from St. Pete. on the last day of her stay. Meeting her and hearing that russian accent again brought back all those old but sweet memories. She leaves. \\

Guess what?

I follow...

cont....

[dokrog]

Part 3.

So for the next month I'm playing in Russia. I sweep her off her feet. She was the one for me fellas. Damn I was in love. she was soooo beautiful. total perfect blonde Russian maiden and i'm the guy that's partial to brunettes. Damn it! I was seriously in love. We toured pete. Then went to a resort near sochi for a week then back to st. pete. WOW! I'm pretty sure I fathered at least 4 kids that month with her. jeez. WE had sex EVERYWHERE! I honestly can't remember having sex so often before for so long.

And the best part was. She loved me! OH yes. Well at least she said so! She wouldn't lie you know. So she was also madly in love with ME! I still remember her tears on my cheek as we said farewell in St. Pete.

But it was not meant to be. I went home finally and I received an email shortly after my arrival (2 days actually) from my sweet sveta telling me that "It was not meant to be." Her father did not approve as I was only a factory worker. Darn him! She was now engaged to a friend of his that also worked in the government. *Sighs Theatrically* Whatever. That was fine. I was still sore actually. I wouldn't come out of shock for another day or two.

So I'm back and finally I get custody of my son. About time too. But wait. I work 3rd shift. No hope of getting on 1st shift. I'm the low engineer on the totem pole. Hmmm. I search around and another hmmm. there are no 3rd shift daycares available. Now I'm in a major bummer. My supposed married friends are very quick to distance themselves No one want's to watch my child overnight. And they say NC is the friendly state.

Right about now I'm in a major depression. I finally have custody of my son. My little man. My first born and all that. And I might have to lose my job and go on welfare in order to take care of him. Either that or take a meaningless first shift job and move away from everyone and everything we know in order to take care of him (sounds just like what russian women do when they marry you doesn't it?)

But one friend stepped in "Johnny". Retired on disability from the union job we were working. A simple factory worker. My fellow engineers...no way. A simple factory worker...yes. Not so simple really. He was one of the smartest people I know. New history like he had lived all of it and math. OMG. calc 3 was easy for him. His problem was a broken back that left him crippled. He and his wife took us in and took care of my son for me for the next 2 years. Now that sounds exactly like many russians i know from the villages.

But it wasn't over you know. Seems DSS had heard of all my partying and insisted young master James needed counciling. As I "might" be a corrupting influence. The fact that there was no steady woman in my life counted very much against me. Even though I had custody. AS an engineer I was pulling in relatively good money and I think they saw a way to pay for part of their budget. Cynic that I am I believed this because they told me that a lack of only one woman in his life was not a good influence. The fact that I had a new one every couple months was counterproductive to his welfare.

*Sighs again*

I could see the writing on the wall. I'm not stupid after all. Even though sveta left me doesn't mean all my brain cells left me also. I pondered and got depressed again. Then Johnny set me down and had a talk with me. what did I really want in life. Sure I was having fun partying etc. Sure it was nice to get drunk every weekend but was was really important. At the end of the day, what was important.

A good woman who would help me with my child and one whom I could confide in. One who would watch my back and protect me. ONe whom I could have more children with if I wished.

So we thought about it. Examined the 5 or so girls I was currently seeing on and off and a few others that I had seen adn were still interested. They scored high on one or two points and zero on others. We were in a quandary. So then Johnny asks. What about Sveta? Maybe she's divorced by now. Maybe it didn't work out. I instantly fired off an email. Nothing. No answer. Address was non existant now. But Johnny then asked. "you always talk about Russian women. What about another? Surely there are many here in the states. Or if needed you can go there again."

He was right. So we sat down and planned.....

cont.....

[ECOCKS]

Hmmm, mine is so short.

I moved to a new city (Kyiv), dated around a bit, fell in love, moved in together and got married when we agreed it was the right time to take that step.

Not too terribly complicated.

 

[dokrog]

LOL. Bro! Your fine. I'm simply explaining why I'm a tad different from most. Having been there so many time over such a long period having experienced them throught their ups and downs. Why I'm like I am. What worked for me may or may not work for others. Who knows. But it's my story. And...I hope I get to hear other stories of why they are searching for a Russian woman. I could care less about the trip reports. What I want to know is why. why russian? I'm simply curious.

Here you will learn WHY I went russian.

With this story. good and bad. Maybe some men will leave the search and maybe more men will join it. Who knows. Trying to get all this out tonight. Part 4 coming up.

[dokrog]

Part 4.

Johnny said. "listen bro. pull all your thoughts together. You don't want to lose your son to a bunch of idiots" "remember everything you know about Russia and russian women and what do you want".

I made a list.

First of all I wanted a good mother. Someone to help me. love me and care for my child. A maid with love I thought you think. but one who would stay up with him all night when he was sick. Take care of him and make him her own. (that happened)

Second. Speaks english. Has to so DSS get's off my case.(that happened)

Third. From a village and not a major city like moscow or St. Pete. From the forums I was tying into it was obvious city girls were not for me who lived in the woods. Nor did my experience indicate that this would be a good match to try to put a moscovite into Fairview, NC. (that happened)
 
Fourth, A woman good with children, possibly a teacher. Plenty of them over there. (that happened)

Fifth. frugal because i had no idea how much money all this was going to cost me because her parents were making waves towards possible custody instead of me. But I'm not going to lose my son period. (that happened)

sixth. has to be a good looking wench because I was used to dating such. Yes her looks came in exactly 6 on our list. ME and Johnny's. He was my best friend until he died. (that happened)

seventh. good cook and takes care of the home. Now I was always sort of neat but I figured what the hell. she can be a maid too. no big deal. (didn't get all that but what the hey.)

eighth. Had strong social ties. Loves family. Needs family. (that happened)

ninth. actually I put christian as my ninth on the list. Thought it would help with DSS. (didn't get that)

tenth. Was a good companion and good and easy to talk to. Someone I could trust and tell everything too. (that happened)

What's funny is that number 10 came into play eventually as number one. Even though it was last on my list it became the most important. But this was the list we made up one night over vodka. (yeah I was drinking vodka then, it was Johnny's favorite beverage. HE was in constant pain and as he was on disability he didn't get much for it. I helped tremendously but it still wasn't enough. He finally passed away due to pneumonia leaving behind a wife and 2 children who are being well cared for trust me. He had a plethora of friends. Too many to count really. He was one of the really good guys your really damn lucky to know. I miss him. A lot)

So I hooked up with RWG and read everything. At that time Maxim was posting regularily. And I read of quite a few success stories there. So I settled on Maxims.

First I went through their database. way too many. settled on around a 40 or so. then said what the heck. contacted maxim directly. talked to him. then he passed me to another girl. I can't remember her name. I spilled my guts and simply said "make it happen". She advised me to start writing about 20 of them. so I did.

After 2 weeks and I'm talking writting them every day just about. I had it narrowed to 4. Nothing clicked on the others. 4 was all I had anything in common with. At this point. I was getting into it. I was revealing secrets or fantasies or dreams and they were sharing theirs. I was spending a boatload of money in translation fees but so what! This is not a cheap game. It isn't a game period! Then after another week or so writting to 4 I decided to tell all 4 of them about the others. Not by name but just that I was writting others.

Olga's response captured me. "So what! I am writting others also. At this time you only have half an arm. half a leg. half my heart...You now need to earn the other half"

I was caught! OMG. Boy was I caught. I sent the other 3 flowers and a cash gift arranged through maxim and concentrated on Olga. Things got interesting then.

Cont....

[dokrog]

Part 5.

Up until now I hadn't talked to any of them. Not a one. Not a single phone call to the girls although I had talked to Maxim and his assistant a dozen or so times on the phone. My only goal had been to find the right girl for me and they were the experts. In the back of my mind I still remembered sveta but I wasn't holding out for that. I wasn't looking for a 20 year old. I drew no distinctions on age. I told them right up front "whatever age you think will work for me." They had up to date pics of me and I was quite content to leave it in their "proven" expert hands. Say anything you want but maxim's rocks. 2 years ago when my wife was over there with our children they stopped calling. For 3 weeks I couldn't get ahold of them. I had gone there for the first 3 weeks and i ended up going there for the last 3 but in the middle they dropped out of sight. I feared the worst. I was frantic. She was at the village with her mom. I called her brother at home and on his cel. no answer for a week. I called her sister and her sisters husband at his work. no return call. Then I called Maxim. He sent a man up there. some 600 plus km on very bad roads to check on them for me. they were fine in the village. The storms had knocked out the phone lines is all. Not only that it had knocked out the road into the village so no busses could get in. His man had to hike in 6km to get to them. He came THROUGH! I was so scared. How would you be if your wife and 2 children disappeared off the map?  Your little girl and your little boy. He saved my sanity. I'll do anything for him if I can. He has but to ask and he knows it. He also delivered fresh bread and fruits. Never billed me. Needless to say when I found out I sent him 200 usd as a flower payment. He'll probably remember that. *smiles wide* It was an incredibly small price to pay for my piece of mind.

How many of your agencies would do this????? without asking????? Asking nothing in return????? I was never sent a bill. Period!

So at that point she insisted that we "talk". So talk we did. I think my phone bill was 400 that month and 800 the next. who cares. I didn't. Her voice was/is so sweet, low and sexy. I truly fell in love. We talked constantly. We shared everything. All our fantasies. All our dreams. No topic was taboo. From politics to religion to sex. We discussed it all.

What I found was someone much more that Sveta. Much more person. Much more character. Much more family and love and caring and dreams and commitment. When your talking for hours the truth comes out. What Sveta and I had was tons of sex with a playboy quality model and a young stud. With olga it was different. I heard all her hopes and dreams and fears. I shared all of mine. It was a wonderful time and it still is...

It hasn't stopped!

She wasn't the youngest they set me up with, she wasn't the oldest either by far. She was on the younger end. But...She had maturity and purpose and drive and willpower. She shared my dreams and made them her own and I shared hers and made them mine.

Is that so hard? Is there an age cutoff for dreams and hopes and fears? I DON'T THINK SO!

I knew early on she was my mate. No I hadn't has sex with her yet. But we had traded photo's. *grins* Draw your own conclusions. WE talked. We dreamed. We planned.

So I went there with an open mind with possible marriage involved. After all. DSS was on my ass. I had to do something quick. But Olga. I was in love.

Cont.....

[dokrog]

Part 6.

Now we get to the sticky part.

I am charismatic. Like Prez Obama. The great salesmen. I can talk. I look pretty good. I have no issues being in front of multitudes. I don't stutter. I am never at a loss for something to say. I am confident. Always! I don't get mad. I get even. In triples. I never let anyone down, and it's obvious. I'm good people. When I get drunk I get quiet..I don't get loud or mean. But I"m always alert. Always. You would probably never have a better friend in the world if I were willing to take you on as a friend. I don't have many and I'm stingy in giving that part of me out. Good luck.

I'm a business owner. So I can be mean when I have to be. I don't take shit from anyone for any reason, period! I've worked for what I have, harder than most of you can imagine, and what I have is quite a lot actually although few know the depths of my transactions. My point is that almost nothing fazes me and I can be harder than a rock when I have to be. Or I wouldn't be in business. It's also why I can't go for more than a few weeks at a time. A month at the most. Stuff would fall apart.I'm own a shipping and receiving center for 53 websites of product i've programmed and it's just a trifle busy here.

That describes my personality. I'm me. I can easily be an asshole. I can easily be your best friend. Depends. Not on what you have to offer but what kind of person you are. That is my only criteria.

My greatest gift that god gave me is that I have always been able to find who i need, when I need them for the purpose I need them for. I always have. And most of you have no idea how rare a skill that is.

I'm saying all this to tell you what an impact olga had on me. I wasn't bs'ing her. The story of my son came out early. She said "wait and see". I didn't give a darn about anything but getting to her. not to know her better but getting to her physically. I needed her. I needed my son also but her answers and our conversations and inflamed my mind to the point that I HAD TO HAVE HER. It was a chancy thing.

I had been to Russia many time. I thought I knew Russian women. I knew most of the games and the scams and how just like the phillippines and korea etc "i love you joe".  I was wise. Or so I thought.

I had been down that block. With muskovites etc. plenty of sex. little meaning beyond their circle. but my trips with friends to the nature. now that was a different story. Such selflessness. Such caring. Such an aptitude for empathy in your needs. Jeez. It was a village girl I wanted and a village girl I got. I'm not saying muskovites are bad people. just different. and they are not all uncaring. Most just have different priorities than mine. not good not bad.

So all you Moscow women can calm down right now and relax. I lived in the woods at that time and I had no intention of bringing one of you out there with me. I'm far from stupid and it's very hard to take a city girl and put her in the nature. For a few weeks it's ok but long term? Not hardly. She will be stifled. She will decay and she will lose herself. Simple.

Cont...

[dokrog]

Part 7.

Before any of you think anything different. I've been there done that for a long time. Through all these cycles. I've had american gf's, german gf's, english gf's, russian gf's. a few others but who's counting.

The one thing that stuck in my mind was familial committment. That and only that. I wanted/needed someone dedicated to the family. Period. This was do or die time for me. My son meant everything to me. AT this point in my life I could have cared less if she was 400 pounds. I needed a woman capable of being a mother to my son and a mate to me. Someone I could talk to, share things with, be proud of and her be proud of me. I needed that you see. Whether I could consciously admit it or not. I needed to be loved. That was the point I gave up on the party animal part of me.

Here in America domestic abuse is highly rated. It's out of control. The saying is...Don't loan money to relatives. Well Russians have the same saying btw. but they at least will share their food and warmth with you if you have none. Here there would be a screaming match and someone would end up sleeping in the shelter. Even a family. We've lost our family values people. It used to be sweet. Now it's become a burden. What is the motto in america now? Gimmee? You owe me? I've done nothing but it doesn't matter cause i have needs? Pathetic!

Russia is like the '40's in america. NOt moscow. Oh no. But most cities and definately the villages.

These are a very proud people. Who ever said they weren't proud? And they've earned it. How many died in WWI. How many in WWII. tens of millions. I think 30 mil in WW2. MOstly men btw. They didn't give up. Not like the french. ooooops. sorry to any frenchmen men out there. uhm... oooops. *grins with absolutely no compassion at all* I say it like it is. if the truth hurts too bad or commit suicide. doesn't matter to me. I am absolutely cold in this regard.

When you look at history, Russia has one of the longest next to egypt and a few of the polynesian states. so what if they've made a few mistakes. Hell. We all have. The graft could be a little more under control but again so what? At least their military is firmly in control, well sort of. The mafia there has no illusions trust me. They actually work side by side with the militia. *grins*

I've been there. I've seen this. It's a fact and a way of life! It's just different from America or Canada or Britain or Italy, etc. Graft is the same in france btw. You can easily bribe your way out of a ticket there in most places when I was there a couple years ago. Graft is the same in romania also. been there twice for extended periods. I like that country also.

Do I like graft? Not really but I can easily work with it. Reminds me of unions. NO offense intended again. Just the general principle as it is today.

Yes I'm opinionated. Yes I have life experiences and actual examples to back up my opinions. If you don't like it don't read what I write. I write the truth whether you like it or not. Not just the truth through my eyes. but the truth through common sense.


Had to put this part in before I continue, people. IT's the truth as far as truth can be measured. Besides I have to get to 10 you know. of course it might be 15 the way I ramble.

cont.....

[Muddy]

Can you give us a favor and tell us the short version?
I dont think anybody is going to read your book

[Sculpto]

I am reading every word.

[dokrog]

To Muddy.

Nope! You guys need this I've found. Too many with weird expectations and unrealistic dreams.

How did you know i was planning a book?

Grins

[dokrog]

Part 8.




So now we get to my fated trip to russia in 2000. sounds like a trip report doesn't it. It will more because my observations will go into overdrive.

Having been to Russia too many times I simply bypassed the security checkout at sheremetyevo. Yes that's right. I gathered up my doufle bag and simply walked around the partition. I had about 8k on me and didn't really want to have to count it in front of everyone. No one stopped me. call me a liar if you want but it's the truth. no one stopped me. My little olga was aghast when I came around the side of the partitions grinning. she hammered and hammered about following rules etc. so finally I gave in sort of. I left my bags with her and walked back around the partitions bypassing the cround and found a young immigration official and his girl. uhm. officer i meant. I explained that I had been here before, had nothing to declare but peanut butter and some money and could they please stamp my customs paper. He stuttered. she frowned. I sighed. I pulled out a wad of cash and both of them pushed it back in my pocket. My form got stamped. I gave them 2 boxes of chocolates I had thoughtfully picked up from the other side of the partitians before going back around. Those were much appreciated. I didn't even have to reach down and count the money I had in my left sock. *shrugs*

What would have happened if I had been stopped part way around? Dumb american is what would have happened. You have to understand something right now gentlemen. IF you act like you know what your doing there you can easily get away with 98% of what you want to get away with. Wouldn't work here but there? Easy. Now it's different but only slightly. They've actually put in hard walls hell. You can still get around but it means rubbing shoulders. After all You have to remember something. Their system is designed for people to get around it. Lot's goes on there you really don't want to know about. Enough said on that subject.

*At this point your all innundated with trip reports so I'm going to present factuals on russian women and men and society in general*

Hucksters everywhere. My sweet olga is trying to protect me and i'm laughing inside. Not outside. Been here before. Can't ruin the illusion.

Tip. Russian women hate not being in control of a situation unless it's in bed. When I grabbed a taxi and quoted my own price and started throwing my bags in before he could respond she looked and was surprised and bewildered.

I had a hotel to get to and I wasn't in the mood to haggle over prices after a 15 hour flight.

WE get to the hotel and there are doormen to prevent prostitutes from entering. My firm glare and squinted eyes turned them away. all quite common back then. now no. they let anyone in. your screwed.

I wasn't in the mood. I had been 15 hours plus without a cigarette. I was in a bad mood. I needed a cigarette. I saw no market coming in. I saw no vendors of cigs at shere, I was getting sort of desperate.

It's all in how you act. even today every time I go to Russia, If i act like I know what I"m doing and/or I'm firm and act like their going to obey me they simply do. You have to have a bit of presence though. *shrugs*. Demanding to know where the local market is and throwing my passport at the desk helped tremendously. Actually. back then I simply told them I wanted cigarettes and to send them to my room and where in the hell was my room anyways? It's all in presence.

You call me an asshole. I'm simply a man. it's that simple in Russia, even today. Are you people getting this? Doesn't matter what year it's all the same. Pay attention.

Today it doesn't matter. All the clerks speak very good english but still they obey. You tell them and you don't cowtow to them. It's your way period and guess what. You get obeyed. You don't present them with an option. Ever!

Now if you get silly your screwed. Be smart and don't be stupid.

It's unfortunate but I've found that a stern expression works best when dealing with Russian gov or business officials. Why is that I wonder???

I'm mixing old with new, how many of you picked up on that?


cont...

[dokrog]

My point with the above post is that there is a way around just about anything in Russia. Still is. I count on it actually.

[dokrog]

Part 9.

Russian women. I met my future wife and she was everything I wanted and dreamed of. We made love that first night. After all. We had shared all our sexual fantasies so why wait? Waiting is for losers. Take charge. Take charge of your destiny.

Later that night I surfaced and went down to the lobby then the pateo outside. Olga was alseep. worn out. *grins* I socialized and sipped vodka while writing my first trip report which was posted on AWG. I called a coupe friends having had a telephone brought to me by a waiter.

Today if i were in moscow and sit at that little table by the fountain and dictate into my laptop instead of pen and paper, guess what? The same waiter or one like him would obey me if I needed a phone. I would still receive the glances from the ladies walking by on the steps in front of the fountain. and why? Because their curious. They know your a foreigner and they simply have nothing else to do except party there in moscow. I mean what's to do? Tell me Please. Moscow is moscow. It's a different world from the other cities or especially the villages. But it's still much the same.

If you draw too great a distinction you are in error. It's all in how you present yourself and that's a fact. Be calm. Be in command of yourself.

Now we get to the cities besides moscow. And the villages.

And I am in no way bs'ing anyone with this writing. Ask Lily.

My philosophy is simple. If your a 60 year old that is 60 lbs overweight and you want a 30 year old hottie then earn it by god. Anything less is simply wishful thinking and good luck to you.

Anyways. To continue with my thread.....

Russian women. I go in the hotels and i see the maids and the looks they give and know they or some of them are available. My wife knows it too. You should see her frown. No...Glare! There is indeed a difference. Why is that? Why are some of them available? I know. Do you? I even know why which ones are available. But that's moscow. And that's the tourist centre.

You get out and you go to the train station. people suddenly become very friendly. Helpful. why? Maybe just maybe your getting into what russia is all about? Maybe your finally seeing the Russian people and not users? could be. What's your take on the situation?

Your on your train and people are everywhere and mostly polite. Kids are trampling your feet but who cares their kids. You reach in your jacket pocket and pull out a handful of candy and suddenly you have 6 young best friends. were they begging? HELL NO! But their kids and they can spot candy a km away. You pass it out to nods, smiles and winks from the parents. They could care less that your a foreigner. Their only concern is that their kids are happy and out of their hair. Sounds just like us heh?

Your a beefy fella and someone is having trouble with their window on the train (that happens a lot btw). They already know your American trust me. But they need that damn window open. They instantly call on you to try to help. They could care less your nationality. They need you. not america. and right now. You help them. it's expected and they would be surprised...no shocked if you didn't. In america? Not hardly. They would call for a conductor and you would be jailed if you tried to jimmy a window that was stuck. The union can't have that you know.

This is going to get worse for america you know people. Sad but true...... frowns....

Cont..... if you want to listen to what the people are like there.

[Sculpto]

more!

[dokrog]

I'm not a Russian. I'm simply telling how typical Russian's are. Right now. Today. You don't like it find another country.

This is why I married my wife of 9 years. Who gifted me with 2 beautiful children. Part 10 coming up and yes it's probably going to hit 15 before I'm done. Maybe more.

[dokrog]

It is with sadness that I say that Maxim has passed away almost 2 years ago. I had not been in touch but writing this made me give him a call. When his cell was not answered I called the agency and found out he was gone. I will visit him on my next visit and share a glass of vodka with him and catch him up on our lives. He had MD and was a good man. Here is a picture of him in a wheelchair. I'm sorry it's not better.

You people have never heard me plug for an agency before. But Maxims agency did me right and then some. They understood family and went out of their way when it mattered. Even when no money was involved. They are good people. You could do a lot worse.

As Ceasar once said. All hail. and I say All hail Maxim.

[dokrog]

I will continue this tomorrrow. or later today whatever.

[dokrog]

I need a little time. You'll have to forgive me.

[dokrog]

What is really sad is that he must have passed away shortly after he helped me and my family. How's that for selflessness.

From a Russian no less.

go figure.


I'll be back tomorrow.

[AnastassiaAsh]

Dokrog, it's interesting - Why did you decide to stop partying, having sex left and right and suddenly wanted to find a good family woman? Just because of your situation with the custody of your son? In a way it's understandable, but why not do that from the very beginning then? Before custody thing?

Love your story and your style of writing, especially about sex....   ...no, i am just kidding...    

By the way how can one sexually take charge and want to find a Christian woman at the same time? 

[dokrog]

By the way how can one sexually take charge and want to find a Christian woman at the same time? 

Your kidding right AA? You say that like christians are supposed to or are required to have boring sex or just mundane sex. Christian women like to have fun too you know. I was going to put my own special spin on RW social/sexual mores in thesegment after next. I'm currently working on opinionated and stubborn. 

To answer your questions though christian  women can and do have sex out of wedlock. It really depends on how "religious" she actually is. Or her exact interpretation of the bibles passages on that. Besides there's nothing wrong with simply grabbing her and kissing her. I would recommend not doing it on a crowded street though or in the company of relatives.

I decided to stop partying before I got custody of my son. I had actually stopped quite a few months before. That wasn't DSS's point. Their point was I had no steady girlfriend nor wife. What I had instead were "dates" with various women, but I had a hard time settling on any one. I would get bored. Hence my decisiion to marry an RW. They are anything but boring.

Thank you on my writing style. I basically write things how they are or at least how I see them.

[Sculpto]

By the way how can one sexually take charge and want to find a Christian woman at the same time? 

Sorry for the interruption.. in my experience.. the hottest women in bed were the most religious Christians, especially Catholics an fundamentlist Protestants.. something about all that sexual repression made them kinky freaks.  JME and O