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Offline Muddy

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« on: July 22, 2009, 10:39:50 AM »
Billy, if you have feelings for her and her visa is till good why not bring her over? You have 3 months to decide? If she is too psychotic then you can send her back, you lose nothing, trying to find a new girl and do this process again is not easy, takes so much time.
Have u posted any of her photos in any of the topics here?

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RE: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2009, 11:13:58 AM »
Billy, if you have feelings for her and her visa is till good why not bring her over? You have 3 months to decide? If she is too psychotic then you can send her back, you lose nothing, trying to find a new girl and do this process again is not easy, takes so much time.

Great way to start off a marriage. Muddy, don't you think this pick-a-puppy attitude of yours is what led to your own disaster?

Sure, just take a woman who is fragile emotionally, relocate her to a country where no one speaks her language, and then, if things aren't peachy enough, put her on the next plane home.

You are an MOB loser. Instead of learning from your mistakes you've become embittered and nasty. God help the poor women you are writing to.


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RE: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2009, 11:20:25 AM »
Your stupid immature childish personal attacks do not help posters or in this case Billy!

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RE: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2009, 11:24:07 AM »
Your stupid immature childish personal attacks do not help posters or in this case Billy!


You need to help yourself before you're in a position to help anyone else.

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RE: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2009, 11:28:55 AM »
God help the poor women you are writing to.


lol
God should help you, you are just too SIMPLE and naive and immature to be with a russian girl!
Tell me, how does attacking me help Billy?
So stupid and immature

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RE: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2009, 11:43:05 AM »
lol
God should help you, you are just too SIMPLE and naive and immature to be with a russian girl!
Tell me, how does attacking me help Billy?
So stupid and immature

Do you think your constant Russophobic posts and infantile recommendations for guys to install keyloggers on their GF's PCs is mature and reasonable?

Do you think it's mature and reasonable for someone who thinks the majority of FSU women are lying tricksters to continue pursuing the same women?

Unlike you, I managed to find a woman who actually loved me before I proposed marriage to her.

If that is SIMPLE and naive compared to your methodology (pick a pretty girl, file a K1, and hope for the best!) then not much 'splainin will enlighten you.


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RE: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2009, 12:25:42 PM »
You have 3 months to decide? If she is too psychotic then you can send her back, you lose nothing

I am so glad that Canada no longer has a fiance visa  :rolleyes2:

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RE: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2009, 12:39:30 PM »
Hi Muddy, What exactly happened with the girl you brought over?  I was reading through your history of posts and you came on this board all jacked up about this girl with many questions and your attitude changed each month.  You even at one point were scared of going to Ukraine because of the economy and serial killers. 

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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2009, 01:11:56 PM »
Hi Muddy, What exactly happened with the girl you brought over?  I was reading through your history of posts and you came on this board all jacked up about this girl with many questions and your attitude changed each month.  You even at one point were scared of going to Ukraine because of the economy and serial killers. 
No, I cannot hijack Billys topic.

Great way to start off a marriage. Muddy, don't you think this pick-a-puppy attitude of yours is what led to your own disaster?

lol, you are too SIMPLE and EMOTIONAL, I cant believe this guy is married to a russian girl.
I wish I knew what makes you think it was a disaster. lol

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RE: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2009, 01:23:20 PM »
I wish I knew what makes you think it was a disaster. lol

After reading your "suggestions" to other members here on this forum, we can all be sure of one thing, it was a disaster all right.....FOR HER!


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« Last Edit: July 22, 2009, 01:25:22 PM by GoodOlBoy »
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RE: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2009, 01:24:12 PM »
Hi Muddy, What exactly happened with the girl you brought over?  I was reading through your history of posts and you came on this board all jacked up about this girl with many questions and your attitude changed each month.  You even at one point were scared of going to Ukraine because of the economy and serial killers.  

The situation with Muddy is muddy.  He keylogged his fiancee's computer and discovered that she was saying bad things about "the US and life here" but not about him.  So he sent her back to Ukraine.

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=9640.msg189599#msg189599

So he has one more K-1 remaining under his lifetime limit of two.  It is not apparent what he is doing now.

No, I cannot hijack Billys topic.
lol, you are too SIMPLE and EMOTIONAL, I cant believe this guy is married to a russian girl.
I wish I knew what makes you think it was a disaster. lol

Muddy, maybe your ex-fiancee would say it was a disaster for her when you sent her back, although everyone at RWD believes if she had married a man who spied on her every move it would have been a bigger disaster.

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RE: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2009, 01:29:48 PM »
After reading your "suggestions" to other members here on this forum, we can all be sure of one thing, it was a disaster all right.....FOR HER!


GOB
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She was really sad when I was driving her to the airport and had tears in her eyes.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2009, 01:33:47 PM by Muddy »

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RE: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2009, 01:35:34 PM »
What a prick.

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RE: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2009, 01:39:46 PM »
No, I cannot hijack Billys topic.

I suspect your motivation for discussing your experience is a lot different than the smoke screen about muddying (sorry!) Billy's thread. You have alluded to your past trainwreck when ridiculing guys here yet you've never told the entire story. FWIW, I don't blame you, what you discovered in your fiancee's emails was probably the most humiliating experience of your life.

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lol, you are too SIMPLE and EMOTIONAL, I cant believe this guy is married to a russian girl.

Yup, coming up on three years, now.

FWIW, I was hooked on a bad woman very early in my search, like you. I was also very bitter about the experience in the aftermath, like you. It's easy to blame your own shortcomings on the entire population of RW, it's even tempting. But the problem lies within.

I'd also say that you need help a lot more than BillyB - whatever problems he's having he at least deals with them like a man rather than complaining about bad girls like a bitter old shrew of a woman.

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I wish I knew what makes you think it was a disaster. lol

Muddy, even a SIMPLE and EMOTIONAL person like me has a memory - you've alluded to your disaster several times, and your residual bitterness and suspicion towards Russian women spells I WAS HUMILIATED in 100-pt. bold Times New Roman.

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RE: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2009, 01:43:46 PM »
lol
since you just dont get it I have no choice but add you to my ignore list, chao!  :hipdude:
I feel sorry for you, SIMPLE man!

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RE: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2009, 01:53:29 PM »
I cant believe this guy is married to a russian girl.

So what does it take in your opinion to be successfully married to a Russian woman?

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RE: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2009, 01:57:30 PM »
So what does it take in your (Muddy) opinion to be successfully married to a Russian woman?


1. Spying

2. Eavesdropping


GOB


PS.......There is an old adage that eavesdroppers seldom hear anything good of themselves.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2009, 02:01:03 PM by GoodOlBoy »
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RE: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2009, 01:59:37 PM »

1. Spying
2. Eavesdropping

GOB

It can't be all. I am sure that Muddy has some other advice that he wants to share  ;)

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RE: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2009, 02:31:36 PM »
.................had tears in her eyes.

Most likely, tears of JOY. :rolleyes2:


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RE: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2009, 05:29:27 PM »
Most likely, tears of JOY. :rolleyes2:


GOB
lol

groovlstk, I put you on my ignore list sir, you are too emotional and cannot control your temper, I hope you don't behave like this at home, you can scare people. Read the domestic violence cases here, you need help. Anger Mamanegment class would be good for you. Please work on your communication skills.
Muddy
« Last Edit: July 22, 2009, 05:31:34 PM by Muddy »

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RE: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2009, 05:43:55 PM »
troll

DON'T FEED THE TROLL!

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Re: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2009, 09:13:22 PM »
Thread was split to unclutteraximize the other thread...

It would be helpful to anyone on the outside looking in to be able to put the first post into perspective, e.g., Why exactly is it a bad idea or good idea to give a relationship a "trial basis" such as Muddy suggested?

Perhaps that will be an angle of approach which will assist others in the process who might be contemplating something similar...

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Re: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2009, 09:17:27 PM »
Muddy,

You claim that there is more to the story than what you have disclosed.  For your sake I hope so because everything you have posted says you are exactly what Blues Fairy called you.

So what's the complete story?  Did you bring your fiancee (a university student?) here on a trial basis? 

And what are your future plans regarding RW?

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Re: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2009, 09:25:14 PM »
I would like to suggest that when a potential or blatantly flaming thread such as this one is split off it be placed in the members only area so as to not cause the neophytes to be overcome with nausea and sickness thereby causing ruination to their desire towards everything FSU, especially the women. Oh wait.....if they did it'd mean less competition for me, hence more Poon for Jolly. Hmmm, Let the public flaming begin!!!!
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Re: The Muddy Angle
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2009, 12:16:47 AM »
Muddy, do you have proof that you actually brought a girl into the country.  Your story seems made up to me.

 

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