not married, but question anyway

[GoodOlBoy]

Why would anyone who is at the 4% (wealth) range of Americans be in Ukraine looking for a wife, and one who doesn't speak any English to boot?

I know, I know...teacher!!

OK GOB, tell the rest of the class (RWD) your answer.

Because that person is probably old, short, fat, bald, ugly or stupid and no matter how much money he has, NO AW wants him.  :evil:


GOB

[ambach123]

You are absolutely correct, my words means nothing to you, I am glad to hear that, that is way I prefer.

Then why comment?

I believe you are unemployed, and have nothing better to do, then commetning on posts that don't mean anything to you. You have no money, and no job, and you fulfill your life on line by commenting on things you know nothing about and according to you mean nothing to you.

Once again use the ignore button, I don't want you commenting on my posts, they mean nothing to you.

[GoodOlBoy]

 http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/archive/Mammals/Donkeys-and-burros/Mule/61406 :evil:


GOB

[KenC]

ambach,
Ignoring your misinformation is dangerous to the valid information flow here.  Maybe Dan can install a special feature for you?  Something to the affect of "Please ignore ME because I know not of what I speak?"

When you post BS, expect someone in the know to call you on it.  Just because a member calls you on your continuous posting of misinformation does not indicate a thing about his economic well being.  It is only you that measures his own intelligence by his bank account balance.  Which begs the question of how such an intellectually inferior person like you got wealthy anyway?  Did your momma leave you the money?
KenC

[NJ]

ambach123:
in your posts you claim that you want to find a woman that doesn't place man's money first. I wonder why. It seems that you judje every person by the ammount of money he has, so why YOU don't want others to see in you only a wallet?

[Gator]

I believe you are unemployed, and have nothing better to do, then commetning on posts that don't mean anything to you. You have no money, and no job, and you fulfill your life on line by commenting on things you know nothing about and according to you mean nothing to you.

I don't know how BC has for all these years managed to enjoy the good life in Italy with a beautiful RW wife.    

Who among us will start a fund to save BC from becoming destitute?  I will happily be the first to contribute, at least enough for him to use the Internet.  

[Gator]

Why would anyone who is at the 4% range of Americans be in Ukraine looking for a wife, and one who doesn't speak any English to boot? That's flat-out strangely mystifying to me.

I will answer that.  Matty, my reason is the same as yours.

In your example, however, I would require conversational English.

BTW, given today's sad state of affairs, I don't think 4% is all that much to brag about, and I doubt that you are far from it.  Given more time, which you have, who knows?!

[Gator]

OK GOB, tell the rest of the class (RWD) your answer.

Because that person is probably old, short, fat, bald, ugly or stupid and no matter how much money he has, NO AW wants him.  :evil:

My photos and story are posted around RWD enough for you to decide which of these shortcomings apply.

Even with a shortcoming or two, I had no problem in dating AW for the first couple of years following my divorce.  None were so fat that when her beeper went off people got out of her way thinking she was backing up.     No, these were fine AW, fine slender AW, fine slender young AW.

All you have to do with AW is show up and act normal.  Maybe “normal” is not the correct word because I am not normal.  But that’s another story. 

[GoodOlBoy]

Mystifying........Why would anyone who is at the 4% (wealth) range of Americans be in Ukraine looking for a wife, and one who doesn't speak any English to boot? That's flat-out strangely mystifying to me.

My photos and story are posted around RWD enough for you to decide which of these shortcomings apply.

Why Gator..........are you claiming to be one of the top 4% of wealthy people in the GoodOl' USA?

If so, I feel sorry for you, Ambach and Mr. Trump. 

President Obama has "special" plans for all you rich folks. :evil:


GOB

[GQBlues]

I will answer that.  Matty, my reason is the same as yours.

Well, I don't know about you but I went to Russia to immerse myself in its rich history.

BTW, given today's sad state of affairs, I don't think 4% is all that much to brag about, and I doubt that you are far from it.  Given more time, which you have, who knows?!

HHhhmmm...Well see. Heck I still owe you a cold brew and Donna_Pedro a metro fare 5 years running now...

[GQBlues]

President Obama has "special" plans for all you rich folks. :evil:

Exactly! That's part of the reason I'm stumped why guys are so pre-occupied worrying about their worth when our leader is busy dipping into everyone's pockets for their beer fund. How much did that little silliness cost the taxpayers?

[ScottinCrimea]

ambach has been shown repeatedly, with credible references, that his idea of marrying in Nevada to legalize his prenups is just plain wrong.  The legal requirements for divorce in Nevada are that the petitioning party meet the residency requirements.  Otherwise, the divorce is heard in the current state of residence.  He is relying on the ideas of DIY books that apparently aren't providing him with valid information or else he is not understanding them correctly.  Just do a simple search on the laws of divorce in Nevada and in your state of residence and you will get better information than he is providing.

The need for a prenup is inversely proportional to your knowledge of the person you are marrying.  I personally would never do a prenup as I prefer to know exactly with who I am marrying before entering into a marriage contract.  If there are any doubts about her intentions or trustworthyness, you have no business getting married in the first place.

Of course there are some, like ambach, who want to use a prenup as some sort of blackmail tool to force a woman to stay with him or suffer dire consequences, and that is just plain wrong.  I have no problems with those who, for whatever reason, feel that a prenup is necessary, but my opinion is that it should be fair to both parties, recognizing the sacrifices each party has made to enter into the marriage, not some one-sided document that punishes one party or the other for the failure of the marriage.

Rule #1:  Know the person you are marrying!!!!

[KenC]

ambach has been shown repeatedly, with credible references, that his idea of marrying in Nevada to legalize his prenups is just plain wrong.  The legal requirements for divorce in Nevada are that the petitioning party meet the residency requirements.  Otherwise, the divorce is heard in the current state of residence.  He is relying on the ideas of DIY books that apparently aren't providing him with valid information or else he is not understanding them correctly.  Just do a simple search on the laws of divorce in Nevada and in your state of residence and you will get better information than he is providing.

The need for a prenup is inversely proportional to your knowledge of the person you are marrying.  I personally would never do a prenup as I prefer to know exactly with who I am marrying before entering into a marriage contract.  If there are any doubts about her intentions or trustworthyness, you have no business getting married in the first place.

Of course there are some, like ambach, who want to use a prenup as some sort of blackmail tool to force a woman to stay with him or suffer dire consequences, and that is just plain wrong.  I have no problems with those who, for whatever reason, feel that a prenup is necessary, but my opinion is that it should be fair to both parties, recognizing the sacrifices each party has made to enter into the marriage, not some one-sided document that punishes one party or the other for the failure of the marriage.

Rule #1:  Know the person you are marrying!!!!

Scott,
Though what you say here is true and I agree, your one statement also could read:

The need for a prenup is inversely proportional to your knowledge of the person you are marrying.WEALTH
KenC

[kievstar]

I guess I am now old, fat, and ugly since I am in the 4% which is not really wealthy IMO.  Less than 1% of American households make more than a millionaire a year.  One of those guys Marcus Fizer (professional basketball player) dates women in Kiev all the time.

Roughly 1.0% of high net worth individuals (HNWIs) can also correctly be identified as ultra-high-net-worth individuals (ultra-HNWIs), those who reside in households with a net worth or wealth of $30 million or more. There are approximately 95,000 ultra-HNWIs in the world with 61,600 or 64.8% residing in the United States and Europe.  This is wealthy and Donald Trumps's good friend is one of these persons and who0 married a Ukraine born girl.  This is 2007 data so probably a little less now in this group but also many people hide their assets so this group maybe larger.  There is portion of American households in this 95,000 group who are USA citizens but live in foreign countries.

International dating / marriage is more excited.  Many people now become rich by being global which is more than just sitting on coach in USA.  Brad Pitt and Angelie live where?

I did no prenup and really could care less if I lose several million.  I could never take a woman from her country and family and make her sign a contract like a slave.







Unless you have 30 million in cash and no debts your not really wealthy.

 

[BC]

You are absolutely correct, my words means nothing to you, I am glad to hear that, that is way I prefer.

Then why comment?

I believe you are unemployed, and have nothing better to do, then commetning on posts that don't mean anything to you. You have no money, and no job, and you fulfill your life on line by commenting on things you know nothing about and according to you mean nothing to you.

Once again use the ignore button, I don't want you commenting on my posts, they mean nothing to you.

Pot calling the kettle black I see..

Contempt prior to investigation is one of the worst forms of self delusion, a world full of mirrors that reflects your own ignorance.

You may live in a grand castle, but even there your life only occupies one empty room at a time.  Look around and ask yourself why you feel so alone in the largest of cities that is somehow not full enough, driving your thoughts thousands of miles away to seek someone, anyone, that can be fooled into temporarily filling that huge empty space between your ears.

Quite sad.. I think I prefer my crowded hovel.

Chew on it for a while.

[ambach123]

Kstar, you are correct, 4% is not a big deal, these are not rich people, they are comfortable, I never considered myself rich, but by the grace of God luckier than the other 96% since I don't have to worry about money, but that is not the same as rich.

KenC, how did I make my money? It was a business idea that I came with, even today we are the only ones doing what we do, in the entire USA. Before I started my business, I was broke, so I know what beeing poor feels like, just that I never want to be there again, hence my desire to protect my assets.
USA gives an opportunity to anyone who can think; of course it is a mtter of great pride to me, from rags to riches in a mtter of few years.

Scott, you are correct that Nevada requires six weeks residency by one of the parties to grant a divorce. However if you marry there, you can enforce the prenup "according to Nevada laws", regardless of where the divorce is adjudicated. This is a relatively common venue used in contract law, where the parties can choose a state law, sepcially if there is some connection to the state. Furthermore,  you can also mandate that the party wanting the divorce would do so in Nevada fulfilling the residency requirements.
My search after about an year of searching is almost over. Why almost? It is not over until it is over. She is about 30, has two University degrees, speaks fluent Englsh, and I have visited her three times; she has agreed to the prenup. Perhaps more importantly she is a very nice person, much nincer than me. She is deeply in love, for no small part because I rose from ashes.

[Gator]

If so, I feel sorry for you, Ambach and Mr. Trump. 

President Obama has "special" plans for all you rich folks. :evil:

I am elated to give knowing the good it will achieve:  provide health insurance for everyone (even though 80% of us are happy with what we have), help illegal immigrants (my RW supports that), improve education to improve the lot of those not interested in academics, create economy-improving companies such as Government Motors, pay for needed infrastrucure, etc. 

All of this without raising taxes for the middle class.  It is so good that I feel motivated to give more. 

[groovlstk]

Kstar, you are correct, 4% is not a big deal, these are not rich people, they are comfortable, I never considered myself rich, but by the grace of God luckier than the other 96% since I don't have to worry about money, but that is not the same as rich.

Ambach, contrary to what you just wrote, it seems to me that you worry about money more than anyone I know. This is not a criticism of you, just an observation: all your decisions along the path you've chosen to find a wife have been shaped by fear. Fear of buying an expensive dinner for a woman who is not interested in you, fear of agencies fleecing you, fear of filing a K1 for a green card girl, fear of marrying someone who has designs on your wealth.

From the beginning I was skeptical of a lot of things in this pursuit, and I think that's not only healthy but necessary, but there's a point where fear starts working against you and clouding your judgment.

[Gator]

Well, I don't know about you but I went to Russia to immerse myself in its rich history.

Exactly, same as me.  You and I both worked long hours before we left America to line up the best looking guides to give us the "cultural" experience.  

HHhhmmm...Well see. Heck I still owe you a cold brew and Donna_Pedro a metro fare 5 years running now...

Yeah, good day.  I recall how tired you were from all the sightseeing, yet eager to experience even more, especially "Novosibirsk."    And it proved to be the best, hands down.  Amazing that all 6 of us who met that day are living in America.

[GoodOlBoy]

It is so good that I feel motivated to give more.

It is a good "feeling" when you give to others, isn't it Gator?

I wonder though, after 8 years of this "administration", if that Santa Claus Euphoria that you experience now, will "feel" the same then? 

Ho Ho Ho!  :evil:


GOB

[ambach123]

Gstick, by " not worrying about money " I meant I don't have to worry about paying my bills, or money on a day to day basis.

With  regard to protecting my assets, you are absolutely right, like most self made men, I am very protective of my assets. This is a common trait; if you get a chance read a book " Millionaire Next Door ". Many of us came from poverty and do not wish to go back to it.

[Gator]

Furthermore,  you can also mandate that the party wanting the divorce would do so in Nevada fulfilling the residency requirements.

Just pretend for once that she decides to retain the best legal mind in her state.  If you have money as you claim, her brilliant attorney will happily take her case.  Her attorney will file first where you reside and start an expensive discovery process (e. g., forensic accounting using the best accountants) that you can do nothing to control or even influence.  Here is the best part:  the court will require you to pay her attorney fees.  This is separate from any reward the court gives her.

Get a prenup but do it properly.  It will cost over $10,000 - 15,000, of which only about $1,500 is needed to draft the words (and 95% of the words are canned, “cut and paste” to reflect precedent decisions by the appellate courts in your resident state).  The rest is for the process of getting her involved in negotiating the prenup on equal footing.

[Gator]

8 years of this "administration"

 :hairraising:

[Misha]

IIRC it's the state where you reside that counts..

Also, doesn't it pay to file first in a divorce as this will determine where the divorce will happen? In the Becker case, she not only moved to Florida, but was also the first to file for a divorce from that state.

[KenC]

KenC, how did I make my money? It was a business idea that I came with, even today we are the only ones doing what we do, in the entire USA. Before I started my business, I was broke, so I know what beeing poor feels like, just that I never want to be there again, hence my desire to protect my assets.
USA gives an opportunity to anyone who can think; of course it is a mtter of great pride to me, from rags to riches in a mtter of few years.

ambach,
There was a time when I ran with the very rich and to a one of them, the only ones that showed as much insecurity about their wealth as you do, were the ones that some how felt they didn't deserve the wealth.  It didn't matter if they were born with a silver spoon in mouth or gained their wealth from some lucky business venture.  Those who earned it or thought they deserved it, were very comfortable with it.  You are not.

I really do not intend to demean your wealth, but your paranoia of losing it has made you a demented man in many ways.  Your insecurities concerning your money shows through loud and clear from your many posts here.  If you are not flaunting it to some member here, you brag of flaunting it to the women in the fsu, or show your obvious paranoia of them (or others) taking it away from you.  There is no doubt in my mind that your wallet can lure some woman from the fsu.  I sincerely pity the woman that falls into your trap as you are incapable of loving anything or anyone other than your money.

You really need to work on your self esteem issues.  If you have any endearing qualities, we have never heard of any other than your fat wallet.  Now that you are so financially secure, work on the rest of you.  You have much work to do to become a full fledged human being.
KenC