Writing really hot young girls to get to know their mothers

[BillyB]

I dissagree with you regarding Ukrainian women. I have seen plenty hot women over 40 while travelling in Ukraine.

Here some examples.

Wiz, one of the RW I'm dating in the USA is near 50 yo and she blows your examples away. Although I'm almost 10 years younger than her, she likes me a lot. On the internet men in their 20's ask if they could have sex with her. She stated she does not plan to get married but she likes me a lot. I like a lot of things about her. She's mature, not controlling or jealous and doesn't mind if I'm going out with other ladies but she still likes me a lot.

[wiz]

Wiz, one of the RW I'm dating in the USA is near 50 yo and she blows your examples away. Although I'm almost 10 years younger than her, she likes me a lot. On the internet men in their 20's ask if they could have sex with her. She stated she does not plan to get married but she likes me a lot. I like a lot of things about her. She's mature, not controlling or jealous and doesn't mind if I'm going out with other ladies but she still likes me a lot.

Looks you have found the right woman Billy to grow old......

[I/O]

The date the daughter bang the mother is a fantasy for many men.

I thought it was the other way around?

They are probably thinking you want to do a mother-daughter threeway.

It'd be better if she had two daughters wouldn't it? That'd give our hero two angles, or would that be three angles or would that be six angles or perhaps even nine depending on circumstance?

I gotta say this is the weirdest idea I have seen for some time. Not saying it can't work, just sayin'.....................

[brave girl]

Write to girls from 18 to 21 and ask them if their mother is single.

Strange man!!   brave girl

[Jumper]

So what?
He has deep pockets!!  :usdeyes:

[facetrock]

  Ok, there has been a slight glitch to my method. The lady that used to be a model is at the top of the list, but some trouble with the daughter. The daughter was happy to introduce me to her mother and both are near fluent in English. But now,the past few days the 20 year old daughter had been emailing me telling me to take her instead of her mother!! And it gets worse!!! She told her mother about her plans and now they are fighting between themselves who gets to spend time with me when I visit. They are cutting each other to shreds in the emails to me!

  And it still gets worse!!!! The daughter told her father about me and must have given him my email. He speaks good English and writes me mad as a hornet because he thinks I am chasing his darling baby.

Now what the hell am I supposed to do?

[RussianWind]

What's an intrigue! Let's wait untill her brothers and cousins get involved too!

 

[brave girl]

What's an intrigue! Let's wait untill her brothers and cousins get involved too!

......and Russian boyfriend!! :evil:  brave girl

[facetrock]

  Bravegirl and RussianWind. Why are you so negative? Dont you see the logic behind this plan? Dont you see the the potential this can have and how many men can find their true love this way?
Why all the snide remarks? Cant you be more positive? Cant you see how sensitive and insecure I am feeling today?
Does it please you to crush my ego? Do you know for sure these women have Russian boyfriends? Maybe they are lonely and just want a good man in their life? Do you think this is possible? Do you think its possible to meet a woman with this approach? Do you think its possible for a Russian woman to ever be happy? Do you really believe you will ever meet a good foreign man? Do you still search for one? Did you ever think of writing hot young men to see if their fathers are handsome and single?

So many questions. So few answers.

[kievstar]

facetrock, you should fly over there and challenge the father to a fight.  Be a man.

Honestly, I have a hard time believing this story.  If she was really a model, her ex husband is going to be connected and he would not be emailing you.  We would find you floating in the Milwaukee River.  

[facetrock]

  You have to remember Kiev she was a model for a short time back in the 80s, back when it was still the soviet union. No money in it then. According to her the ex  is a drunk, but I heard that story before.
I am a lover, not a fighter and live no where near the Miwaukee River.. Wrong side of the state. I live next to the Mississippi River
I feel sorry for the father...begging me to not take his daughter away.... I assured him that is not my plan and was really after his ex-wife.
He congradulated me on that and for some reason thanked me many many times...has me wondering a bit. So I calmed his fears and now I have to deal with the daughter again to get the deal back on track.

[JR]

Ok face, don't ever say I never did anything for you. Here is what I am going to do. I will go to Russia where I will test both mother and daughter. I will let you know which one passes the test and you can have the loser

Now that's a plan!!!

[Misha]

I assured him that is not my plan and was really after his ex-wife. He congradulated me on that and for some reason thanked me many many times...

Why? I am sure many men out there would be quite happy is somebody took their ex-wives far, far, far away LOL 

[Boethius]

   Another example. I was at a club a few weeks ago and the dance floor literaly shook from the 20 fat chicks all dancing together

No offense intended, facetrock, but you’re almost fifty.  Why are you looking for women in clubs?  Do you really believe any quality woman hangs around in clubs?

For example: the other day I was at the park with my daughter. There were to quite fat young mothers sitting in the swings while their children play in the sand. My daughter was in another swing and I was pushing her so I was behind the two cows sitting in the swings. I became fixated with my disgust towards these two obese women, saying things like "Why don't you leave some food for the rest of the world?" to myself. For the rest of the day I saw fat people everywhere I went and I started to get pissed.

Wow.  I can't believe what I read.  Who cares what someone who you have no interest in, and who has no interest in you, looks like?  Can’t you just see them as imperfect human beings?

 You have to remember Kiev she was a model for a short time back in the 80s, back when it was still the soviet union. No money in it then. According to her the ex  is a drunk, but I heard that story before.

There weren't really "models", per se, in the Soviet Union, not in the way we refer to "models" generally.  

If the husband were a drunkard, it's not too likely he'd be emailing you.

Go reread your last three posts, facetrock.  Why would you want either of these women?  

[JR]

Wow.  I can't believe what I read.  Who cares what someone who you have no interest in, and who has no interest in you, looks like?  Can’t you just see them as imperfect human beings?

No I can't, I'm too shallow for that.

I accept everyone as imperfect. The only perfect person I know looks back at me in the mirror)))

[Boethius]

No I can't, I'm too shallow for that.

Goes without saying.

I accept everyone as imperfect. The only perfect person I know looks back at me in the mirror)))

Delusional, too.

[facetrock]

  I dont want the daughter Boethius. Thought I made that perfectly clear several times. Read it again if you must. Please give me good advice, not the negativity that can be so prevelent here.
Lots of men my age go to clubs, nothing wrong with it. I go to clubs that cater to the older crowd not a club with a bunch of kids doing girly shots.
  Its not fair for you to condemn the former model. You dont know her like I do. You havent spent hours on skype with her, watching her every move. Dont judge prematurly. I think she is a good woman and when I get the daughter to realize I am the boss in this situation I think things will progress nicely.
  This could be the one!
I still stand firm behind this method of approach. Look where its got me so far, a good start with a former model or whatever they were called back in the ancient days of the Soviet Union.

[Boethius]

I know you don't.  But if you pursue her mother, the daughter will be in your life, whether you want that or not.

facetrock, I have been married 26 years.  I can tell you that if you want a successful marriage, one that will last through good times and bad, character is critical..  And I can tell you that a woman who "shreds her daughter" in emails is not a woman of good character.  I don't need to talk with her on skype to surmise this.

My husband is at work, but if I read your post to him, he'd laugh and say "typical homo Sovieticus".  They are a "species" he avoided before he emigrated, and still avoids when encountered.

[RussianWind]

 Bravegirl and RussianWind. Why are you so negative?

Just on the contrary I am very positive  

I lose interest in people who can't laugh at themselves. You are not a target for mockery, just friendly kidding, relax.

P.S. I don't believe in this story too, especially in the part about the father writing to you. And when I read about the mother and daugther fighting, I really thought you were joking. Something is very wrong here, somebody playes games.

[facetrock]

 homo sovieticus. Doe that mean she might be bisexual
So whats wrong with two women fighting over me? The emails werent that scathing, except the one where she called her daughter a little bitch. I guess that one was a little nasty but people say things they dont mean in the heat of the battle.
But I am not worried about her character. I am more worried about why her ex-husband sent me a letter with "thankyou" spelled out 47 times in a row when he knew I was interested in taking his ex to the USA.
  As far as the daughter is concerned, I talked it over with the model and we both came to the same decision. Better if the girl stays at home. She can live in her mothers flat. The girl is highly pissed about this but her behavior has been deplorable and she deserves to stay home.

[facetrock]

  RussianWind. Why wouldnt a man write to a guy who might take his precious spoiled brat daughter away from him? According to the mother they are very close and he has always spoiled her rotten and thats got to be bad if a Ukrainian mother thinks so.
Should mention the model has only been divorced for two years. So they did have time to bond. Plus she is an only child.
Its up to you to believe it. I dont care either way to be honest.

[JR]

Ok, I'm really starting to see the joke in all this...lets do it this way. I'll take the mother and daughter as a pair. You keep the father as he certainly appreciates you He thinks you are a fine man, you two will be happy together.

The ladies will forget all about you in about, oh say three seconds and I'll die happy while they fight over me......yeah, I love it when a plan comes together!

[Boethius]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_Sovieticus

Assuming you are not being played:

She was not accurate about her ex being a drunkard.  A drunkard would not be emailing you.  I will say "inaccurate" rather than "lying" because it may be a perception.

A woman who badmouths her child will not, in the long run, be a good wife.  If she can so easily dismiss and betray her own child, can you imagine what she would be capable of where you're concerned?

[facetrock]

  Hey Boethius, I have three daughter and sometimes you can lose your temper with them. I really dont beleive the story of him being a fall down drunk. More likely he just drinks to much sometimes and chases a little stray tail. He works in a bank and has access to a computer and the internet all day long so there is no reason not to think he would not email me.
 I am not worried about the daughter, she is a spoiled daddys girl anyway and she is not coming to the USA. Already decided that.

[Boethius]

I have three children too.  I can't see a normal mother doing what you described.  A child can't be "spoiled" solely by one parent in a two parent family.  Further, in Ukraine, women rule families.

I find it strange that all three speak English, and from your description, I doubt the husband wrote that.  It is out of the character of most Ukrainian men, and your description sounds more like it was written by a female.

Ultimately, of course, it's your life, and you are not a child.  I will say, though, that a normal Ukrainian man in your situation would have stopped contact the first time a mother badmouthed her daughter.  He would view this as a fundamental character flaw.  Believe me,  if a "model beautiful" woman in Ukraine is single, there is usually a reason.