Life Changes...Part Deux

[SANDRO43]

Why am I reminded of this character ?

[Boethius]

Hey, Billy's the one who used the example to buttress why he is "right".

[GQBlues]

Hey, Billy's the one who used the example to buttress why he is "right".

LOL, exactly.

[Vinnvinny]

ETA - Though I'd be more concerned about his preferred method of "birth control", as well as the qualifications of a "physician" who approved such a method.

If fairness to the mother I doubt if Billy really told her what his preferred birth control method is, even though he indicated that he did. Cant see many blokes telling their new girlfriends mother that they pull their 'pistol' out their daughter before they shoot their load.

[Jumper]

The US doesnt celebrate columbus day on the 12th??

I think it's a typo GQ ? (dint you mean Canada?)

hey I  was born oct 12th and often got my birthday off from school for *Columbus day*

Of course Columbus knew the earth was round..
educated peole had known for prior centuries on end.

and certainly he landed in the caribe' islands first..
returning on later ventures to the same islands and further.
and all the native inhabitants of DR alledgedly died of small pox between that  first decade of european visits..
 

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" Today it is well known that the Earth is a sphere, or very close to one (its equator bulges out a bit because of the Earth's rotation). When Christopher Columbus proposed to reach India by sailing west from Spain, he too knew that the Earth was round. India was the source of precious spices and other rare goods, but reaching it by sailing east was difficult, because Africa blocked the way. On a round globe, however, it should also be possible to reach India by sailing west, and this Columbus proposed to do (he wasn't the first one to suggest this).

    Sometimes the claim is made that those who opposed Columbus thought the Earth was flat, but that wasn't the case at all. Even in ancient times sailors knew that the Earth was round and scientists not only suspected it was a sphere, but even estimated its size. "

"All these results were known to the panel of experts which King Ferdinand appointed to examine the proposal made by Columbus. They turned Columbus down, because using the original value by Eratosthenes, they calculated how far India was to the west of Spain, and concluded that the distance was far too great.
 

 
   Columbus had an estimate of his own. Some historians have proposed that he used an argument like Strabo's, but Dr. Fischer found his claim to be based on incorrect units of distance. Columbus used an erroneous estimate by Ptolemy,
 who based it on a later definition of the stadium, and in estimating the size of the settled world he confused the Arab mile, used by El Ma'mun, with the Roman mile on which our own mile is based. All the same, his final estimate of the distance to India was close to Strabo's.
 

    In the end Queen Isabella overruled the experts, and the rest is history. We may never know whether Columbus knowingly fudged his values to justify an expedition to explore the unknown, or actually believed India was not too far to the west of Spain. He certainly did call the inhabitants of the lands he discovered "Indians," a mislabeling which still persists.

    But we do know that if the American continent had not existed, the experts would have been vindicated: Coumbus with his tiny ships could never have crossed an ocean as wide as the Atlantic and Pacific combined. In hindsight the exploration of the unknown may be justification enough!
"
From here-
 http://www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/stargaze/Scolumb.htm



What it has to do with  RW i don't know.

 

[GQBlues]

The US doesnt celebrate columbus day on the 12th?? I think it's a typo GQ ? (dint you mean Canada?)

No AJ...Columbus Day is celebrated on the 2nd Monday of October (the 11th this year) with us. Sparing us with less folks going postal.  

Both Spain and the US recognizes the 12th of October to be the 'official' D-Day however....

Oh and Happy B-Day!

[Vinnvinny]

Isn't this the same mother who allegedly gave him sex tips?

Dunno, but if she did then she seemed to have missed out some critical advice.

[Ade]

Trying to keep on topic, what contraceptive method did Columbus use anyway?

[GoodOlBoy]

Trying to keep on topic, what contraceptive method did Columbus use anyway?

Easy......lambskin condoms (sheep intestines).

GOB

[Faux Pas]

Trying to keep on topic, what contraceptive method did Columbus use anyway?

He too pulled out at every Port 

[facetrock]

  The real question is did BillyB get the chance to pull out
Since he is in the constrution business he knows the importance of a properly functioning backup alarm...Beep..Beep..Beep..
Be prepared to act when said alarm goes off.

[Vinnvinny]

Trying to keep on topic, what contraceptive method did Columbus use anyway?

He told the ladies his first name was Dave.

[GQBlues]

Trying to keep on topic, what contraceptive method did Columbus use anyway?

LOL....

He simply embarked on voyages that took long months out on sea with at least 3 ships full of men...looking for Indians...

That's why when they hit land, the first thing they noticed were how handsome the naked native men looked...

"No, Christopher! That's not an oar built in him! Pinche stupido!"

[BC]

Dangling male gonads in very hot water was pretty popular back then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat-based_contraception

Disclaimer:

Do not attempt to microwave.

[Misha]

Trying to keep on topic, what contraceptive method did Columbus use anyway?

Given the quite credible theory that Columbus' crew brought back syphilis from the Americas to Europe, it can be inferred that they weren't using any 

[BC]

btw this thread should be officially declared dead.. it's not even funny anymore.

Billy,

Bottom line is result and I'm not buying your theories.  Report back when the woman in your life signs the bottom line on the DS 156K.

[Misha]

Bottom line is result and I'm not buying your theories.  Report back when the woman in your life signs the bottom line on the DS 156K.

This isn't a guarantee either that the woman signing will finally end up moving to the USA and married 

[Gator]

Given the quite credible theory that Columbus' crew brought back syphilis from the Americas to Europe, it can be inferred that they weren't using any 

I did not know this, but it is a current theory.  That changes the scorecard from 10-0 to 10-1 (deadly diseases given to native Americans vs diseases given to Europeans).

[Rubicon]

Billy B I have read this entire thread and I think you spend way too much time bragging about yourself in the fantasy world of the web and not enough time in the real world making real accomplishments.  it seems that you have been back to the USA from Kiev and Lvov for quite some time, but you are stringing out what really happened between you and A for as long as possible.  clearly you are not engaged to her or you would have said so already.  and I concur with others on the forum that an 18 year old is simply to young for a man in his 40's.  I also read with amusement that you bought her a "present" for $1.50.  was that the best you could do?!! 

[tim 360]

+1 Rubicon.  Love you BillyB but you are dragging this thing out.  Wheres the beef?

[GQBlues]

Dangling male gonads in very hot water was pretty popular back then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat-based_contraception

I just now read this BC...quote:

"An experimental male contraceptive method involves heating the testicles so that they cannot produce sperm. Sperm are best produced at a temperature slightly below body temperature. The muscles around a male's scrotum involuntarily tighten if the man's body temperature drops, and they loosen, allowing the testes to hang, if the body temperature rises. This is the body's way of keeping the sperm at an ideal temperature. Limited research has shown that raising the temperature of the scrotum above body temperature, even for short periods of time, can affect fertility for months."

I read somewhere that the clothing worn by men these days, more specifically, boxer briefs (vs boxers), do in fact have a negative impact on a man's reproductive capabilities...so much so that it was alleged it also affects a man's ability to reach an arousal state because of long exposure to higher than normal body rate temperatures.....

This now leaves me to wonder if eating too much hot soup, borscht or menudo, may also have in some ways the same effect...oh lordee...the jokes just can't be helped...

[BillyB]

BB please refresh all of our memories again.....exactly what kind of witch DOCTOR is Mom??

I can only hope and pray she is "treating" Moammar (Khadafy) and his friends! :evil:

The fantasy just keeps getting better and better!!
Note to Newbies: DO NOT follow this advice (bareback/pulling out)....they also have AIDS in the FSU!!

I've handled all cheap shots, insults and questions about the validity of this thread just fine so far and you think you're going to come here late into the game and prove BillyB is an idiot and doctor mom incompetent?

You could have played it safe and asked me my opinion on safe sex and watch my reply to see if I'd hang myself but no, in an all out effort to get me you decide to go for broke and announce to everyone an idiot is writing this thread. Every challenge I've got to answer so hope you don't feel dumb after this.

GOB, I have a picture in my head that you are talking to a doctor about birth control and after your conversation, you go tell everyone that the dumb doctor you spoke to has some strange view about safe sex. 

When I wrote my last post, I contemplated explaining for the dummies reading that pulling out before finishing is a way of birth control in a loving relationship/marriage and that I'm not talking safe sex with a woman I barely know. I knew I'd have to write that explanation now or later so I decided later in order to wait to see who'd open their mouth. Guess who opened their mouth?

This thread isn't only for you to learn about me but for me to learn about all of you. We can all learn about each other on how we react to certain situations or how emotionally affected we can get at times. I'm sure all the RW are reading with interest and amused by all the Western men getting flustered.

GOB, smart women will test the wit of a man they're dating especially if they're looking for a mate to pass on quality genes to future children. The dumb guys will not get a second date. You have taught the newbies a valuable lesson in your last post and it's not about safe sex.

Both Spain and the US recognizes the 12th of October to be the 'official' D-Day

Thank you. People could have searched the internet on their own and cut this thread back 2 pages but some chose to find anything said by anybody on the internet to dispute the "Official Day" Columbus discovered America. Doesn't matter if he landed on an island, he gets the credit for finding the whole place.

PS - Billy, it is Ivano-Frankivsk.

You have a nasty habit of trying to point out every little insignificant mistake of mine. The main problem is what you point out isn't even a mistake. I told you before in this thread there's more than one way to translate Russian to English. Read the search engine in the agency below for city names. Your L'viv is Lvov and your Ivano-Frankivsk is Ivano-Frankovsk to them. Go search many other dating sites that have Russian/Ukrainian employees who translated their cities names to English and you will find out ole BillyB isn't as wrong as you would like others to believe.

http://mydearwoman.com/women-look-men/For-Man-Search-ses-Page.html

Billy,

Bottom line is result and I'm not buying your theories.

No big loss to me. My theories isn't designed to attract men, only help them. I don't agree with other men's theories myself. The Cossack I spoke of earlier said all women belong in the kitchen. I said they belong in the kitchen and bedroom. The RW and RM at the table didn't take offence to his or my comments. If those RM have pleased their RW in their own ways for the RW to accept the role their man wants them in, then great. They are all happy. For some RW, it's important to please their man and I know it to be true because I have been pleased.

This isn't a guarantee either that the woman signing will finally end up moving to the USA and married 

Is getting married a good way to measure success or finding a quality person to marry a better way to measure? I dated a RW who told me she got 17 marriage proposals this year. I didn't ask her for a second date but I didn't think she's a loser because she's single or I didn't want a 2nd date with her. I could have had at least 5 RW who would accept a marriage proposal from me this year but I'm not going to marry the first woman that will have me.

It's not talked about here at all but I think we all suspect most men will marry the first woman that would have them. They go to the FSU determined to seal the deal with a or any RW even if she's not compatible or marriage material. I'm picky and want someone that has the same ideals as I and walking the same path.

Most of you figured out by now I don't plan to be the woman in the house 50% of the time. I don't plan to be the woman in the house even 1% of the time. If I have to cook or clean for my lady if she's ill or tired, I would do it because I love her, not because it's my turn. I have to be the MAN of the house. A woman would have to naturally respect me for my brains and leadership. If a woman doesn't respect a man, she shouldn't marry him, period. I like being the boss. I'm the boss at work and those that work for me and those I work for respect me. I make a lot of good decisions and handle well those who try to shaft me. The respect given to me is earned, not because of my position.

Love you BillyB but you are dragging this thing out.  Wheres the beef? 

People are trying to kill me to finish this! I guess that's a good thing. I've been fortunate to be working 6 days a week lately in this tough economy especially in the construction industry. Your government, not mine, bailed out the banks. The government didn't tell the banks to help it's citizens so the banks held onto the money and didn't loan money out to developers for their projects. Half the city inspectors have been fired since there's not much to inspect. If this government understood how capitalism works, they'd understand nearly everytime money moves and changes hands, they get to tax it which is good for them and they can keep their inspectors working and projects creating infrastructure happening which in turn create jobs for people who get a paycheck which in turn the government gets to tax.

I'm not purposely dragging this out. I'm just busy. I've also got kids that visit me occasionally. If it doesn't work out with A, I'd remain a single man and have to start Life Changes part 3. Now that could be another long story that could get people fired up even more. Although some people here can't handle some of the questions mom asked me, I've enjoyed my conversations with her. She doesn't hold back and the more she talks to me, through her I understand how A feels about me. If mom wasn't talking to me or not talking to me about anything serious, then I would take it as if mom doesn't have an interest in me getting together with her daughter.


A few days in Ivano-Frankivsk. Spelled the way to make Boethius happy and for me to stay out of an argument that may burn 2 more pages.

  We get to our apartment and pass by a school where A told me that she learned gymnastics there. She got kicked out because she grew too fast one year becoming too tall for her age. A told me that she could still put both legs behind her neck. I will admit that I had ungentlemanly thoughts at that moment.

Maybe I didn't look hard enough but I didn't see any Soviet style apartments in the city. The city looked different as if the Soviets never been there yet it was in Ukraine. A and mom tells me that most people in the area do not like Russians. The people there looked different too as they did in Lviv. If you can tell the difference between Poles and Russians, both are Slavic, many of the people in Western Ukraine looked Polish.

I finished taking a shower in the apartment and come out with no shirt and wearing only shorts. It is cooler in Western Ukraine but still hot to the point I feel more comfortable with less clothes on. A is sitting on the couch watching tv so I lay on the couch and put my head on her lap. A puts one hand on my chest and the other hand on my head rubbing her fingers through my hair. I grab her hand off my chest and kiss it and put it back. The body language and physical contact interaction with A is where I would like it. When some of you guys are heading to the FSU for the first time. Don't let the beauty of the woman in front of you cloud your judgement. Evaluate her body language. It means much more than words.

I know some you guys are against posting photos on the internet. If you want me to stop posting photos, just let me know. Or you can close your eyes at the end of every post of mine. That trick works too

[GoodOlBoy]

Congratulations BB, she is a beautiful child.

GOB

[Boethius]

You have a nasty habit of trying to point out every little insignificant mistake of mine. The main problem is what you point out isn't even a mistake. I told you before in this thread there's more than one way to translate Russian to English. Read the search engine in the agency below for city names. Your L'viv is Lvov and your Ivano-Frankivsk is Ivano-Frankovsk to them. Go search many other dating sites that have Russian/Ukrainian employees who translated their cities names to English and you will find out ole BillyB isn't as wrong as you would like others to believe.

You were vacationing with a girl who you claim won't even speak Russian, and visited the most nationalistic part of Ukraine, where "mova" is exceptionally important.  I am giving you a lesson in respecting the locals.

Congratulations BB, she is a beautiful child.

Remember, GOB, Billy wants to be in a "teacher".  So, marrying a girl close to the age of his stepson is perhaps a good way to achieve this.

The fact he finds it normal that mommy was along on their travels says it all.

pulling out before finishing is a way of birth control in a loving relationship/marriage

It's also a good way to achieve an unexpected pregnancy.

[GoodOlBoy]

Remember, GOB, Billy wants to be in a "teacher".  So, marrying a girl close to the age of his stepson is perhaps a good way to achieve this.

Thinking a little further ahead.....maybe instead of a K-1 Fiancee Visa, BB should go for an all out "adoption" of this child?
It might make things go a little smoother at the embassy interview. :evil:

GOB