Life Changes...Part Deux

[chivo]

Billy and participants, how about ending a discussion about Billy's personality from this or that point of view? At the end of day, it starts to became annoying. 

Even though I risk getting a reply that will be in typical "BillyB' fashion , hopefully your vast intelligence will understand the point being made here. And it's from one of the women whom supposedly is in awe of your maleness.

A truly confident man doesn't have tell people he is, not even once. It will come through in their posts and, in person, in their manner. Most (men) do it from time to time to feel good about themselves, so to a point it's acceptable even though in reality it's weak. That you continue to defend and/or claim to be the ultimate confident male ad nauseam speaks volumes. And not in a good way.

Give it a rest champ. No hate from me, no negativity, just another poster trying to give you a clue. Take the lady's advice already.
 

I would like to read more about the process of a K visa for A, and any A's actions toward becoming Mrs. B.
Billy, how about sharing things about this?

Stick with this going forward and you might gain some cred.

[erudite]

Billy B. I am all for you having good luck and you will find this in the first response I posted on this thread. I stated that I wished you all the luck, but I would not trade places with you because I think it is a path to frustration and failure.

You continually post comments that make you a target for derision. It is no different with anyone else or any other member of this forum or others.  A person is taken to task for making comments or posts that are controversial or outlandish and they usually realize it when the post these statements or claims.

Columbus was derided in his day because he said the world was not flat.  Look what happened.  He was vindicated.

I have been amused by so much on this thread and it continues. The comments, replies and hot air are highly entertaining. I thank you (and some others) for that. Certainly I am not against you succeeding, but it is a very long shot (among long shots) which is obvious to most anyone who has been on this journey.  

If you demonstrate your success I think most any of us will be happy for you and eat crow (or something like it).

[BC]

To help people out. To improve their lives and their relationships. I'm sure some people here have even improved their sex life after reading this. I'm so confident in my ability to find quality women that I started this thread before getting to my destination. I can't fail. I'm too happy to fail and I'm too good of a man to fail. When I'm on dates with women, I see their reactions and behavior towards me and I know I'm better than my competition. The women even tell me I'm better than most men they've dated. Guys may not like it but guys like me are kicking their butt when it comes to courting women and we will catch the wife material girls first if they don't make some adjustments with their attitude and behavior. I'm not here to tell guys I can do this once, or got lucky, but I can do this over and over again with fantastic results. Newbies get enough nice advice told to them here. I'm giving them a real experience. Mine.

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[dbneeley]

You don't hate me even though you called me a braggart, boor, poseur, ludicrous and pathetic. Other people don't hate me even though they called or insinuated I'm  immoral, pedophile, pervert, child molestor....etc. It's good to know that I'm loved by all so I shall proceed......

BillyB, as usual you haven't much of a clue. I stated that if you contacted the young lady and visited her for a sexual relationship while she was 17, in many U.S. States you could have been prosecuted as a sex tourist and for statutory rape. That is merely a fact, not a personal judgement per se.

As for your being a braggart, boor, and poseur that is simply a response to *many* of your own statements. That you are a braggart should be self-evident; as for being a boor, refer to the common definition:

"boor, a peasant or uncultured person; one who lacks in education, knowledge, refinement and social graces"

(In Russian, the term would be "nikulturniy" as I understand it.)

That, too, should be quite self-evident. A gentleman does not boast in public about his sexual equipment or how he employs it, to give but one egregious example.

Being a poseur, too, is obvious--on the one hand, you say you don't talk about yourself in person--yet you do nothing else on the board. Claiming over and over to be some sort of "alpha male" paragon when quite clearly that is far from the case would be the quintessence of being a poseur.

The "ludicrous and pathetic" comments are the personal judgements of many who have read this thread and commented upon it. I simply find anyone who seems so driven to claim some sort of superior position as a male and a "man's man" to be so. I have known many truly superior types over the years, and they would never dream of putting on such a public exhibition as you have in this thread. Had you any worthwhile upbringing, or perhaps if you were less emotionally damaged yourself, you would not dream of much of this garbage either.

However, all of that said--for you apparently there are only two states: "love" or "hate." In the real world, for those who are not themselves emotionally immature and stunted, there is a huge variation between those two extremes. The emotions you engender in most others is on neither extreme, nor should they be.

Life is simply not a binary set when it comes to emotional response to others. To believe it is simply says that you lack the maturity and/or the emotional intelligence to know the differences.

I suppose the strongest emotion you raise in me is pity. To feel such a drive to make such frequent and often ridiculous claims about yourself is in fact quite revealing, but of things you would seek to be much more private about if you had the sense to understand. Frankly, you could benefit greatly from some serious psychotherapy...and for that I pity you but I certainly don't "hate" you.

David

[BC]

BillyB, as usual you haven't much of a clue. I stated that if you contacted the young lady and visited her for a sexual relationship while she was 17, in many U.S. States you could have been prosecuted as a sex tourist and for statutory rape. That is merely a fact, not a personal judgement per se.

David,

BillyB was overseas so the Protect Act would only apply if she was under 16 for free, or 18 if he paid for 'it'.

Although you constructed your statement with an 'out' (if 'it' happened in some US States), I think your intent to somehow relate BillyB's actions to something criminal is wrong and irrelevant, heck in some places he and his fiancee might be stoned.

Sure, state that your moral ideals or limits differ.. but then leave it at that.

[Lazarus]

Hello.  I have read this thread while lurking......The internet makes a small world and I know this family personally

Really?
You know A and her Mom?
Did you "date" one of them? :evil:

.......You have not judged this family well.

PLEASE elaborate.

Lazarus

[tim 360]

 The internet makes a small world and I know this family personally.   

   You have not judged this family well.

Did I read this right?   You're friends with A's family? 

[TomT]

Billy,

I am as old as dirt; nonetheless, a lucid thought passes through the old gray matter from time to time. One example was passing up the opportunity to visit a very sweet (and very eager) teenager. It's a pity that, despite your relative youth, you have precious few moments of clarity. One such moment should have been the thunderclap of Harb's post; yet, you completely ignored that you have just been struck by lightning and burned to a cinder.

[Lazarus]

Welcome to the forum Harb. It's an honor to have your first post right here.

I wouldn't be to sure about that.

Lazarus

[JR]

Sorry to say Billy but mies is right about intentions here.  The internet makes a small world and I know this family personally.  It is your life to do as you want and maybe you enjoy sending money in such situations.  It is not a lot of money but in that part of Ukraine it is still a substantial sum.  I don't care what you decide to do but you should do it with eyes open.  You have not judged this family well.

Goes right over Billy's head....

[Lazarus]

The internet makes a small world and I know this family personally.

Harb, next time you are in "contact" with A and her Mom, please ask them to join us here at RWD.

I am sure that they would find the OP's posting style very "interesting" (to say the least).

Lazarus

[TomT]

Harb, next time you are in "contact" with A and her Mom, please ask them to join us here at RWD.

I am sure that they would find the OP's posting style very "interesting" (to say the least).

Lazarus

That wouldn't prove anything. If they are using Billy, they surely wouldn't post anything that would kill the golden goose.

[GQBlues]

Hello.  I have read this thread while lurking.  I am on a business trip staying at a crappy hotel so I can kill time here.  

Sorry to say Billy but mies is right about intentions here.  The internet makes a small world and I know this family personally.  It is your life to do as you want and maybe you enjoy sending money in such situations.  It is not a lot of money but in that part of Ukraine it is still a substantial sum.  I don't care what you decide to do but you should do it with eyes open.  You have not judged this family well.

This thread may well still become one of the 'All-Time Greats' in the world of MOB message boards. Right up there with Facetrock's 'Writing to a Known Scammer' and Firebird's 'My Weekend in Moscow', LOL.

Harb, maybe you can help a bruddah out, if you do in fact know this family personally, maybe give the family a link to this thread to support the bro and shut the creeters, know what I mean?

After all, they must have a lot of time to kill lately now that Ghaddafi have more important matters to attend to.

I'll kick and chill it some and hope for a good show....  

[BC]

This thread may well still become one of the 'All-Time Greats' in the world of MOB message boards. Right up there with Facetrock's 'Writing to a Known Scammer' and Firebird's 'My Weekend in Moscow', LOL.

New thread with links would be a good topic starter GQ..

[GQBlues]

New thread with links would be a good topic starter GQ..

Oh definitely...unfortunately, I'm relatively 'new' to RWD and I've no inclination to dig through the treasure lode of great threads in it's archive. RWG is gone and even RWF only archived threads from '06, and fairly incomplete at that.

But yes, such a thread would be wonderful for the more 'familiar' of RWD.

[facetrock]

Ah Matt... The good old days.

 I'll tell you what happened to the main characters Matt. Remember Anna the girl that started the whole thing. She was going to school here when I met her and after she graduated she got a green card and a job here in the states.  Very pretty girl and could have had about any guy she wanted. She ended up marrying a guy about 15 years older than her. Just an average guy that makes average money. Talked to her the other day and she is happier than a clam after 5 years of marriage. Big age gap when she could have had about anyone her own age right here in the states. Makes a guy wonder.

  Natalia my old flame. The last time I saw her was in Paris 2006. The whole time I was with her she hardly ate and I noticed she had lost a lot of weight. I tried to get her to eat but she was constantly worried about being fat. She was 5'9" and weighed about 120. Saw a picture of her 3 years later. She couldnt have weighed more that 100 pounds. Anorexic. Anna saw her a few years ago and said she looks like she is ready to die. Not good. Her not eating also changed her personality. After Paris the relationship died. Might sound cruel but I decided I didnt need to bring over an anorexic wife. I bailed.

  Me. Leaving for Iraq in about a week for a year. Closer to Ukraine. I like the adventure of working in strange places. I also like the fact that the first 91,400 is tax free with no living expenses. Everything I have is going in storage.

[GQBlues]

I never did knew, and often wondered, what happened, man. That particular thread was truly a classic! (allow me to take the time and correct myself on the post above, too. It was Freebird and not Firebird - that's a freaking car, man LOL).

Yeah, I was surprised when I heard through the grapevine that you were back looking again since I was resigned you two would've been married by then. Cameraguy often said back then that the type of woman, in terms of looks, he searched is more or less like yours, mine, or BillyB's (old GF). As to him, they all looked the same. The funny thing about this is, I think all our GF's names were the same, too; Natalia. I wish both of you the very best, dude. I thought you looked really good together, too. Shame.

Anyway, stay low in I-Rock. I realize that's likely where work is right now but do keep your eyes peeled in case an opportunity presents itself in Japan, which I believe may be fairly soon. Safer, saner, and just as close.

[TomT]

Those were the days, were they not? Sadly, so many stories have unhappy endings. It's a damn good thing that we have the ability to delude ourselves about our chances.

[facetrock]

  Thanks Matt. Funny thing is that most breakup stories involve cheating, unrealistic expectations etc. etc. Anorexia has to be a first here.
  TomT. I wasnt deluding myself, I could see what the future was and didnt like it. I've always said to take your time with this process and be prepared to walk away from someone no matter how much time and money you have invested. Its not a race. There is no shortage of women over there and wont be in our lifetime. The economy getting better wont create a shortage of women in the FSU. It will create women that wont settle for western garbage. There are also other factors at work that will keep FSU women interested in western men for years and years.
No hurry. No worries.

[SFandEE]

  Me. Leaving for Iraq in about a week for a year. Closer to Ukraine. I like the adventure of working in strange places. I also like the fact that the first 91,400 is tax free with no living expenses. Everything I have is going in storage.

US, coalition member, or Iraq paying for contractors in Iraq?

[TomT]

  TomT. I wasnt deluding myself...

I didn't write that you were; I was thinking much more globally. When the lot of us first got involved in international dating, we have no clue what the difficulties were going to be. (Some of us still don't have a clue.)

[facetrock]

  Going over as a contractor.  I understand Tom. I always knew it would be difficult, just didnt think something like anorexia would be a problem.  I do believe the success ratio goes up with the more research you do before you write that first letter. Then theres those that no matter what you do to try to help they will never get it right.

[facetrock]

Matt your right it was Freebird. The guy had some interesting experiences over there. But the best was his weekend trip to Moscow when he couldnt stay out of the casinos and was late to say goodbye to the gal he was there to see. If I recall he was still kind of toasted from the night before and had beer breath. I do remember her posting something to that effect and giving her take on things. That was a classic.

[GQBlues]

Matt your right it was Freebird. The guy had some interesting experiences over there. But the best was his weekend trip to Moscow when he couldnt stay out of the casinos and was late to say goodbye to the gal he was there to see. If I recall he was still kind of toasted from the night before and had beer breath. I do remember her posting something to that effect and giving her take on things. That was a classic.

LOL! Was that a classic or what? Only Freebird can pull a stunt like that. To top it off, he was a great story-teller, man. The peanut gallery had a field day, too IIRC. It still cracks me up when I think of that thread.

He also had that RM as his personal guide in and around Russia if I recall...the guy was dead drunk everyday so I don't know why Freebird continually hired him, LOL....too funny!

btw I don't think TomT meant any offense on his first response. In many ways, sarcastic as it was, it runs valid in this endeavor in more ways than we'd care to admit.

[facetrock]

 I wasnt offended by Toms reply. Freebirds personal guide story was a classic too. The guide never really knew what he was doing when he was sober much less drunk. If I recall right the guide just kind of abandoned Freebird one day at a bus stop. Just kind of left him there to fend for himself. He got out ok but it was a funny story.