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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1700 on: November 21, 2011, 07:25:00 PM »
Well the wife had to go back to Ukraine to update her passport so I decided to stop by. I have gone through this thread before (while not reading everything. Who could stomach 70 pages of this) and have decided to give my 2 cents since the famous A is now currently dwelling in the good ole USA.
 
I expect the "you know what" to hit the fan real soon.
 
Yes I am one who thinks the highly almighty and wise BillyB is about to learn he got played by a teenager.
 
A beautiful young 17 year old falls for a middle aged man with a receding hair line and protruding belly happens every day.
 
But not only that she is the perfect little virgin just saving herself for Billy. She is willing to be his little submissive student and do all he wishes. She will even turn her back if Billy were to stray on her and act as if it never happened.
 
Sound too good to be true so far? Wait it only gets better.
 
The most perfect future mother in law in history.
 Not only did she turn her back on this middle aged man hitting on her teenage (at one time even underaged) daughter, but she is so concerned they have such a happy marriage she even decided to teach Billy how to sexually satisfy her teenage daughter.
 
 
 
1. Family who already shows they wish to leave Ukraine for a life in another country
They have already been to Lybia. Is USA their next target?
 
2. Some men just get all tingly inside when they hear the word Virgin
Perfect excuse to avoid Sleeping with someone. I'm a Virgin waiting for my wedding night. Just to think this fine mother who does not mind teenagers and 40 something men being together but even teaches sexual techniques, would raise such a christian daughter.
 
3. The third wheel mother is always around
The good ole third wheel. A sure fire way to make sure a man does not get out of line on a date.
Pretty odd for a couple who wish to marry to always have mother around. If A truly loved Billy. I think she would have liked at least some time alone. Maybe its just me.
 
4. Sexual talks with mother.
Daughter is doing all she can to avoid sex with Billy. Yet she cannot let Billy figure out the real plan. So mother steps in. If mother can keep Billy thinking with his little head instead of his big one they just might pull this off. "Hey Billy. I have to teach you how to sexually satisfy my daughter!"
 
5. Play to Billy's ego
"Oh Billy you are the most intelligent man I have ever met."
Hey it has worked so far......
 
6. Refusing to visit Las Vegas
Only one of the most exciting cities in the USA. Most Russians I have met have this at top of their list to visit if in the USA. But oh no. A cannot even be dragged out of the airport. It would be too rude to do anything without visiting Billy's parents first.
Hate to break this to you A. But Billy is a middle aged Man. He has been down this road before. Considering you are also a teenager. I just don't exactly see Billy's parents doing cartwheels to meet you. Sorry to break the news to you hun.
Considering the world over knows Las Vegas is not just a city for gambling but for quick marriages at the Elvis Prestly House Of Love. Is this your reason? Are you afraid of Elvis?
 
7. Wanting a BIG church wedding.
Of coarse a girl with such religious values to remain a virgin until she is married (yes Billy said her religious values is why) would want to get married in a church. By the way A do you carry your bible with you everywhere you go? Say grace with every meal? I am sure such a fine girl would not miss a day of church. At least all those other girls I knew who were virgins until marriage (based on religious beliefs) did those things.
Oh and I am sure your mother was the main influence on you to have such values. Parents were influence also for those I knew.
But wait a minute.... Is this not the same mother who has no problem with middle aged men talking to her teenage daughter and giving them sexual advice on how to satisfy you?
Some values.
But lets get back to the BIG church wedding.
Just who do you plan to invite to this BIG wedding A?
I am sure many here would love to know your secret around getting others from Ukraine visa's, much less on short notice. We all have someone we would like to visit the good ole USA but that darn visa thing is just getting in the way. But you can help all of us. You must be able to since you are planning a big wedding for so many people.
Could you need time for your other plan while you keep Billy planning a wedding?
Oh wait. Billy already told you that there is not enough time for your dream wedding. It has to be simple. Of coarse you are fine with this as long as you wait for the weather to be warmer.
Hate to break the news to you. But you do realize the time of year you arrived? You only have 90 days. Sorry to tell you. But the weather you felt today when you arrived, is the warmest it is going to get. Only gonna get colder from here on out.
 
OK OK I know some are ready to jump on me for the last one. Many will say they should wait the 90 days and see how things go first before the commitment.
I would not comment if just that. believe me.
 
However considering what is above.... I feel safe to say that is not the reason she is delaying.
Plus I have read many pages of their self proclaimed love. Even A told her mother when 17 after a short time communicating with Billy he was going to be her future husband. So why wait???
 
have seen way too many red flags throughout this story. With the biggest just being the photographs.
 
teenager and middle aged man.
beauty and the beast (girl who could pick alot more other guys)
Already tried to leave Ukraine before
What better excuse to avoid sleeping with a person you are scamming then to play the Virgin card and waiting to get married.
How to keep that man from figuring it then by having mother talk sex with her daughter
Have high religious values but does the above?????
Willing to be a submissive pet
Tells Billy everything he wants to hear "Your the most intelligent man I have ever met"
Mother ALWAYS with them. Avoids time alone (now possibly Billy chose to have the mother around. Is this because the communicate so well?? If you could communicate with A so well you would not need the mother around. Here is where the age difference already comes into play)
A's determination to not visit Las Vegas. Sorry but the quick marriage thing is all I can think of as to why.
BIG church wedding. Takes time to plan
Simple wedding only when weather is warm. That should take a while
 
add it all together and something is a little off here.
 
But the real kicker to this. The photographs.
Not saying it can't happen
But to look at the pictures of the two then I would figure things would be opposite.
I would believe Billy to be the Virgin. I would believe Billy to be her submissive pet. I would believe Billy would turn his back on infidelity etc...
 
However the roles are reversed here. That is when I am not buying it.
 
She may marry him. She may not.
But I am pretty sure there is a plan in the works. Just depends on how far it needs to go to get that green card.
 
 
 Maybe something I should add to this. I guess I was speaking directly to A in my comments. Do not know why since shewill never read this. While BillyB spent 70 pages trying to convince every one here how he is the biggest Alpha Male ever he sure changed very quick when someone mentioned letting A in on the fun afraid to see what she would think. So no A and so much for the Alpha Male.
 
 
 
 
« Last Edit: November 21, 2011, 08:05:02 PM by Ravens9273 »

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1701 on: November 21, 2011, 07:56:12 PM »
.......Are you afraid of Elvis?...

 
Jeez Ravens, might as well let it hang out, why don't you? LOL.
 
 
Actually the thought of cruising Vegas occurred to me as well and almost opined the issue with BillyB. She's likely jetlagged anyway, but maybe such a sight can definitely be a cultural crash and burn...too much, too fast.
 
Mystere and 'O' are shows that I believe she would've enjoyed. But then, I'm thinking...what else will there be to do with her in Vegas? She's underage...
 
Circle Bar at Hard Rock would've been a blast. There 'A' will definitely get a glimpse of the real version of pretty boy of the stars and stripes.
 
Of course, they could've gone up on the rides in New York, NY but the long wait lines will likely be uncomfortable for such a couple. What would people think, no?
 
Enjoy the water dance at Bellagio? Maybe. The 8 PM show is cool but at this time of the year the desert night cool can be torturous...
 
Ahh yes, the Stratosphere rides are a major blast for people of all ages...840' high and happily dangling up in the air. But methinks maybe at BillyB's age, vertigo won't be too far behind by the 3rd floor.
 
The nightime Heli-ride on the boulevard will be awesome! Talk about a romantic experience...now that's what I'm talking about. Then get away from it all and check into Rio's poolside and have a nice virgin colada.... 
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1702 on: November 21, 2011, 09:29:56 PM »
Well the wife had to go back to Ukraine to update her passport so I decided to stop by. I have gone through this thread before (while not reading everything. Who could stomach 70 pages of this) and have decided to give my 2 cents since the famous A is now currently dwelling in the good ole USA.
 
I expect the "you know what" to hit the fan real soon.
 
Yes I am one who thinks the highly almighty and wise BillyB is about to learn he got played by a teenager.
 
A beautiful young 17 year old falls for a middle aged man with a receding hair line and protruding belly happens every day.
 
But not only that she is the perfect little virgin just saving herself for Billy. She is willing to be his little submissive student and do all he wishes. She will even turn her back if Billy were to stray on her and act as if it never happened.
 
Sound too good to be true so far? Wait it only gets better.
 
The most perfect future mother in law in history.
 Not only did she turn her back on this middle aged man hitting on her teenage (at one time even underaged) daughter, but she is so concerned they have such a happy marriage she even decided to teach Billy how to sexually satisfy her teenage daughter.
 
 
 
1. Family who already shows they wish to leave Ukraine for a life in another country
They have already been to Lybia. Is USA their next target?
 
2. Some men just get all tingly inside when they hear the word Virgin
Perfect excuse to avoid Sleeping with someone. I'm a Virgin waiting for my wedding night. Just to think this fine mother who does not mind teenagers and 40 something men being together but even teaches sexual techniques, would raise such a christian daughter.
 
3. The third wheel mother is always around
The good ole third wheel. A sure fire way to make sure a man does not get out of line on a date.
Pretty odd for a couple who wish to marry to always have mother around. If A truly loved Billy. I think she would have liked at least some time alone. Maybe its just me.
 
4. Sexual talks with mother.
Daughter is doing all she can to avoid sex with Billy. Yet she cannot let Billy figure out the real plan. So mother steps in. If mother can keep Billy thinking with his little head instead of his big one they just might pull this off. "Hey Billy. I have to teach you how to sexually satisfy my daughter!"
 
5. Play to Billy's ego
"Oh Billy you are the most intelligent man I have ever met."
Hey it has worked so far......
 
6. Refusing to visit Las Vegas
Only one of the most exciting cities in the USA. Most Russians I have met have this at top of their list to visit if in the USA. But oh no. A cannot even be dragged out of the airport. It would be too rude to do anything without visiting Billy's parents first.
Hate to break this to you A. But Billy is a middle aged Man. He has been down this road before. Considering you are also a teenager. I just don't exactly see Billy's parents doing cartwheels to meet you. Sorry to break the news to you hun.
Considering the world over knows Las Vegas is not just a city for gambling but for quick marriages at the Elvis Prestly House Of Love. Is this your reason? Are you afraid of Elvis?
 
7. Wanting a BIG church wedding.
Of coarse a girl with such religious values to remain a virgin until she is married (yes Billy said her religious values is why) would want to get married in a church. By the way A do you carry your bible with you everywhere you go? Say grace with every meal? I am sure such a fine girl would not miss a day of church. At least all those other girls I knew who were virgins until marriage (based on religious beliefs) did those things.
Oh and I am sure your mother was the main influence on you to have such values. Parents were influence also for those I knew.
But wait a minute.... Is this not the same mother who has no problem with middle aged men talking to her teenage daughter and giving them sexual advice on how to satisfy you?
Some values.
But lets get back to the BIG church wedding.
Just who do you plan to invite to this BIG wedding A?
I am sure many here would love to know your secret around getting others from Ukraine visa's, much less on short notice. We all have someone we would like to visit the good ole USA but that darn visa thing is just getting in the way. But you can help all of us. You must be able to since you are planning a big wedding for so many people.
Could you need time for your other plan while you keep Billy planning a wedding?
Oh wait. Billy already told you that there is not enough time for your dream wedding. It has to be simple. Of coarse you are fine with this as long as you wait for the weather to be warmer.
Hate to break the news to you. But you do realize the time of year you arrived? You only have 90 days. Sorry to tell you. But the weather you felt today when you arrived, is the warmest it is going to get. Only gonna get colder from here on out.
 
OK OK I know some are ready to jump on me for the last one. Many will say they should wait the 90 days and see how things go first before the commitment.
I would not comment if just that. believe me.
 
However considering what is above.... I feel safe to say that is not the reason she is delaying.
Plus I have read many pages of their self proclaimed love. Even A told her mother when 17 after a short time communicating with Billy he was going to be her future husband. So why wait???
 
have seen way too many red flags throughout this story. With the biggest just being the photographs.
 
teenager and middle aged man.
beauty and the beast (girl who could pick alot more other guys)
Already tried to leave Ukraine before
What better excuse to avoid sleeping with a person you are scamming then to play the Virgin card and waiting to get married.
How to keep that man from figuring it then by having mother talk sex with her daughter
Have high religious values but does the above?????
Willing to be a submissive pet
Tells Billy everything he wants to hear "Your the most intelligent man I have ever met"
Mother ALWAYS with them. Avoids time alone (now possibly Billy chose to have the mother around. Is this because the communicate so well?? If you could communicate with A so well you would not need the mother around. Here is where the age difference already comes into play)
A's determination to not visit Las Vegas. Sorry but the quick marriage thing is all I can think of as to why.
BIG church wedding. Takes time to plan
Simple wedding only when weather is warm. That should take a while
 
add it all together and something is a little off here.
 
But the real kicker to this. The photographs.
Not saying it can't happen
But to look at the pictures of the two then I would figure things would be opposite.
I would believe Billy to be the Virgin. I would believe Billy to be her submissive pet. I would believe Billy would turn his back on infidelity etc...
 
However the roles are reversed here. That is when I am not buying it.
 
She may marry him. She may not.
But I am pretty sure there is a plan in the works. Just depends on how far it needs to go to get that green card.
 
 
 Maybe something I should add to this. I guess I was speaking directly to A in my comments. Do not know why since shewill never read this. While BillyB spent 70 pages trying to convince every one here how he is the biggest Alpha Male ever he sure changed very quick when someone mentioned letting A in on the fun afraid to see what she would think. So no A and so much for the Alpha Male.
Don't candy coat it, tell us how you really feel?  :deadhorse:
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1703 on: November 22, 2011, 07:18:08 AM »
At this point, in your shoes I would either share RWD with your wife or drop RWD from your life.  I opted to share instead of creating some little corner of my life hidden away, posting pictures and other intimate information about her and our family in public, surreptitiously and without consent.

There are things A shares with her mom and friends about me without my consent. I don't care and don't let it bother me. I've given her a lot of praise in this thread I'm sure she'll be proud about but this thread is written for you guys and she doesn't need to read about my dating experiences.
 
Maybe she just wanted to see the house..
and have some ideas about decorating it?
 

She seen it and although I think it's clean, she said "This house definately needs my hands". She's good at finding the spots I missed. She's not upset but ready to dig in and turn the house around. She has lots of ideas and I'm going to take her to some home improvement stores today.
 
A's plane arrived near midnight and she seemed tired and sad coming off the plane. Next morning she opened the gifts I bought her and she was back to her happy self. Later I took her to lunch and went shopping at the mall Yesterday.
 
She noticed how big American women are and she definately doesn't want to go in that direction. She told me she's going to eat right and excercise.
 
After going through a few shops at the mall she asked me if it's normal that employees are always smiling and saying "Hello, how are you today?" I told her "Yes, what do you think about that?" She said she "I like it, they are friendly." I told her "Maybe their friendly or maybe their paid to say that but it's done so people will feel welcome and want to come back and shop at their store." I'm glad A looks at this positive. Some RW hate when strangers say hello to them and smile. I also told A that she will see lots of smiles and it's not all fake. It's probably because people actually have something to be happy about in life.
 
We were in Sears and she came across bras and panties and asked if I mind her walking in that area and I said "Walk anywhere you like. Do you want me to walk in this area with you?" She said "You are my husband. You can go with me anywhere you like."
 
I told her about the best shopping holiday in America Black Friday, the first official shopping day of Christmas where things are priced low. She was smart and decided to wait until that day to buy anything but some things were on sale and I bought her a few things such as house slippers and beauty products.
 
We were in Victoria's secret and she wanted to try on some bras but didn't know her size in America. A worker asked if she could measure A but A declined being shy about it. The lady who looks in her 40's and experienced looked at A's chest a few seconds and estimated her to be a 34C size and gave her a bra to try on in the fitting room. A said she was right. A told me the bras and panties she likes to buy will be like Victoria's secret clothes and asked if I was ok with it. What do you guys think I said?
 
Because A is adjusting to a new life, I'm going to let her come around on her own but she's come around fast. She grabs my arm when walking together and sometimes holds me when we're standing in line buying something. In the car she's playing with my ear and rubbing her fingers through my hair.
 
A called mom twice the first day. I talked to mom too and I asked my for help. I told her A is dangerous and trying to kill me on the first day and to take her back. Mom laughed.
 
A asked me if she doesn't adjust to this life, would I be angry if she went back home. I told her "I wouldn't want you to suffer or force you to love me. I would be sad if you went home but I'm not selfish and force you to stay." She said "I'm proud to have you as my man." and smiled big. I knew then her question is one of those test questions a woman asks to find out what a man would say in a hypothetical situation.
 
A is sleeping but when she wakes up, she'll make me breakfast and we go cruising around. I'm not working this week so that I can spend time with her so she won't be bored and lonely her first few days here.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1704 on: November 22, 2011, 08:51:57 AM »
Good to hear that your lady is finally there with you. I hope her adjustment goes well and truely wish you both the best in your new lives!!!!  :clapping:
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1705 on: November 22, 2011, 09:31:23 AM »
 
Congrats to you and A!  I'm happy to hear that A has arrived safely.
 
Wow, midnight arrival and a 10 hour time difference.  That certainly made for a looong day.
 
With some of the worst weather of the season blowing in off the Pacific today, you'll have to share what A thinks about all the rain.  Just tell her that the summers are warm and dry and make up for the winters.  But don't tell her that summer officially starts on the 5th of July  8) . . .
 
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1706 on: November 22, 2011, 12:54:36 PM »
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A is sleeping but when she wakes up, she'll make me breakfast and we go cruising around. I'm not working this week so that I can spend time with her so she won't be bored and lonely her first few days here.

Billy,
 
cool her trip here was rather smooth..and that you took some time off work..
you know it wont be just the first few days or couple weeks of boredom though, so i hope your work schedule can be a little flexible for a few months at minimum..
 
 
My wife's first month just absolutely flew by, no real adaptation or anything at that point, as it was all so new, and cool, like vacation ..!! she had a blast.
(actually first 4 months, I don't think day to day has even set in yet really)
 
In my own experience relocating to another culture,
the day to day things tend to set in a bit later.
Personal time to reflect on missed family or friends,or just the differences.
It's not at all bad, it's expected,
but thats when you'll need to be able to be supportive as the realization this is quite different, and real adjustments to make.
Hopefully you have some days here and there you can just blow off work and be home.
 
I know you have RW experience, but this is your first fiancee landed and going through an actual new immigrant adjustment process.
 
Every person is different ,adapts differently, or looks at  challenges differently.
 It's good she's a positive personality, and with good english I'm sure she'll adapt very quickly.
 
Is her mother ,or any of her friends set up with skype or something similar?
It's far better than just a phone conversation with a family member or dear friend.
 
 
 
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1707 on: November 22, 2011, 06:21:41 PM »
....She's not upset but ready to dig in and turn the house around. She has lots of ideas and I'm going to take her to some home improvement stores today....

WOW,  BillyB! That's a first...Home Depot!
 
What a cozy idea to keep the wife pre-occupied during her acclimation period! Never though of that, man. Yeah, maybe new mouldings, paint the foyer, fix the patio steps, re-pave the driveway, etc...
 
Are you going Crafstman or straight Home depot tools?  :P
 
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1708 on: November 22, 2011, 07:20:09 PM »
Let's welcome A in the United States!  :clapping: :welcome:

Did she actually said this, 'You are my husband, you can walk with me everywhere?' This should be something really significant, I figure.

Also, suggest getting a skype with a webcamera. She could not only talk to her mother, but also show her the surroundings, apartment, closets, everything. My mother truly appreciates it when I turn my webcam around to show her my home and all these comfortable arrangements at home that were never seen in the FSU.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1709 on: November 22, 2011, 08:27:11 PM »
Billy,
 
Please tell A welcome to America!
 
It is good that you ignore potshots from your detractors.  You know many thought A would never get on the plane.  Just keep telling your story with photos.  You need not get involved with justifying anything.
 
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1710 on: November 23, 2011, 02:45:53 AM »

There are things A shares with her mom and friends about me without my consent. I don't care and don't let it bother me. I've given her a lot of praise in this thread I'm sure she'll be proud about but this thread is written for you guys and she doesn't need to read about my dating experiences.
 

Yes, sharing tidbits here and there among family and friends is quite normal.  Posting on the internet quite another.  Just google BillyB and Russian.. Hey you're at the top of the list on page 1 reporting about your previous fiancee.  Sure RW boards are a niche, but so is the pinboard at your favorite grocer (if they do that anymore) with want ads, puppies etc.  I doubt your friends and family are posting your fiancee's breast size on telephone poles, but in principle you do so here.  Heck, what if one day your wife received an anonymous and unsolicited 34C bra in the post.. 'A' would give you a hug and say thanks when you got back from work, but would you not be a bit puzzled?

You would be really surprised how powerful google and other online records really are and how little effort it takes to learn a whole bunch about those who post here and elsewhere on the net.  When posting, one must accept that anyone, anywhere has the capability to see everything you post, including your future wife, employees, employers, business partners, future friends (and the list goes on forever)..  A recent study shows that relationships via social networks (and RWD is a social network) is getting smaller and smaller.  The 'virtual distance' between two unrelated persons is getting smaller and smaller all the time, basically a friend of a friend of a friend, just a few clicks away. http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/11/facebook-social-graph-study/

You seem to have missed my point.. My intent is not to spite or prod but make you aware.  I have mentioned this subject several times here and elsewhere. 

In any case, good luck and best wishes to you both.

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1711 on: November 23, 2011, 11:13:26 AM »
Welcome A to the wonderful USA.

My best wishes to you A and Billy.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1712 on: November 23, 2011, 01:46:04 PM »
Hello BillyB,
Your story sounds like a business project, there are excessively much
calculation and self-admiration[/font], there are not feelings, it is not a love story.
If she will has personal opinion which differs from yours you write that you will leave she and it will be easy for you. It is strange, if you really
love her[/font][/b]...

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1713 on: November 23, 2011, 02:24:45 PM »
Hello BillyB,
Your story sounds like a business project, there are excessively much
calculation and self-admiration, there are not feelings, it is not a love story.
If she will has personal opinion which differs from yours you write that you will leave she and it will be easy for you. It is strange, if you really
love her...


Breeze, welcome to the crowd.  :clapping:
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1714 on: November 23, 2011, 02:59:26 PM »
Hello BillyB,
Your story sounds like a business project, there are excessively much
calculation and self-admiration, there are not feelings, it is not a love story.
If she will has personal opinion which differs from yours you write that you will leave she and it will be easy for you. It is strange, if you really
love her...
BillyB's problem s no one can love him as much as he loves himself.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1715 on: November 24, 2011, 06:57:46 AM »
 
Thanks everyone for your congratulations and welcomes! :flowers:
 
Some new and interesting things! A is adapting fine. She calls mom up everyday and talks to her 15-30 min but I haven't seen any crying yet.
 
We went to the local animal shelter and adopted a 2 month old female kitten. That should keep A busy when I'm away at work. I told the kitten "There are two rules in the house. Rule #1 is that you have to love me more than A. Rule #2 is that A has to love me more than you. If everyone follows the rules then we'll all get along."
 
I witness A's first awkward situation in public. A was talking to a cosmetic sales lady in the mall and the sales lady asked A if she was Russian and A looked at her funny and said nothing in return. After walking away I asked A why she didn't answer the lady. A said "The lady was rude for asking her a personal question when they will probably never talk to each other again." I told A "This is a different culture and it's not rude for them to ask these questions. This won't be the last time so prepare for more questions about your nationality in the future from other people." A said "Why should I change my culture for them?" I told her "You don't have to change but when communicating with others or it's your turn to work in this culture, you will fail because although you think the people who ask those questions are rude, everybody will think you are rude for not replying to their questions.
 
A could not take everything to America so she left most her cosmetics behind. When we were shopping for some, I seen A was interested in Maybelline, Revlon, and Loreal at Target. She didn't pick any so I encouraged her to pick some but she laughed and said "Look at those prices!" I replied "What is wrong with the prices?" She said "They are too cheap so the cosmetics aren't real." I replied "So far you said everything in this store is cheap compared to what people pay in Ukraine. Why can't cosmetics be cheaper? In America if a company is selling cosmetics that hurts people's skin, they will be sued. If a store is selling imitation products, they will be sued by the manufactures and consumers. Our government will fine them. We have strong laws to protect consumers health and protect businesses from having imitation products enter the country." A was relieved to hear this and said when she goes back to Ukraine, she will buy lots of cosmetics for her female relatives. The more A understood how affordable products are in America, she felt disappointed how people in other countries are paying too much for the little they make.
 
Wow, midnight arrival and a 10 hour time difference.  That certainly made for a looong day.
 

A went to sleep after coming home and adjusted to the time zone difference instantly.
 
With some of the worst weather of the season blowing in off the Pacific today, you'll have to share what A thinks about all the rain.  Just tell her that the summers are warm and dry and make up for the winters.  But don't tell her that summer officially starts on the 5th of July  8) . . .

I told her about the nice dry summers but she surprisingly said she likes the rain! A lot of people can get depressed about Seattle's rainy weather but A will be alright.
 
Is her mother ,or any of her friends set up with skype or something similar?
It's far better than just a phone conversation with a family member or dear friend.

Yes, mom has skype but so far they only talked on the phone. I bought mom a laptop with a camera so they can see each other but A doesn't care about video skype.
 
WOW,  BillyB! That's a first...Home Depot!

We could have very well been walking in Home Depot as you typed that. We didn't buy anything but A look around getting some ideas but not rushing anything. After the busy holidays we may change some things one room at a time.
 
Did she actually said this, 'You are my husband, you can walk with me everywhere?' This should be something really significant, I figure.

Yes she said that. Husband has rights and privileges!
 
It is good that you ignore potshots from your detractors. 

With a woman in the house, I have to be a lover, not a fighter!
 
  Just keep telling your story with photos. 

One photo below but I don't have any photos of A in America yet. I'll get some this holiday.
 
When do you take her to a construction site?  Give her a shovel and pick, with gloves to protect her nails.

I'll take her after Thanksgiving weekend. She's not interested in getting on the big boy toys though.
 
You would be really surprised how powerful google and other online records really are and how little effort it takes to learn a whole bunch about those who post here and elsewhere on the net.

I've taken everything you've said into factor a long time ago. I could have stopped this thread back then. I do a lot for A. She adores me. If she leaves me over a few words said here, then it's her loss. I can go back to a robust dating life and someday come back and amaze people with another wonderful woman. I've been through 2 serious relationships with RW since I've been on the forums and posted their photos and both are wonderful ladies inside and out. Finding these ladies isn't a problem.
 
Hello BillyB,
Your story sounds like a business project, there are excessively much
calculation and self-admiration,

Hi Breeze. I was looking at your pasts posts and you haven't posted in a year and a half. My thread has brought you back to life!
 
When it comes to calculation as you put it, I did calculate myself being successful. Many men and women can't do that. Most men and women who are searching for international romance will not be successful. Some men don't understand themselves and the kind of women they can catch. Some men don't understand women. It would be better if they could calculate their success than not. I have some major disadvantages. I'm not 100% caucasion so I'm a minority. It's realistic to believe 50% of the RW would not want to communicate with me because of that. All I need is 10%. Write a 1000 RW and 100 may show interest in me and I'm a busy guy.
 
Don't confuse self-admiration for confidence. Admiring myself is not important to me because it does nothing for me. Girls admiring me is important.
 
there are not feelings, it is not a love story.
If she will has personal opinion which differs from yours you write that you will leave she and it will be easy for you. It is strange, if you really
love her...

Sharing my feelings with everyone here is not going to happen. I will share my feelings with my fiancee. I write like a man. If A wrote the story about how we met, it may sound more like a love story.
 
BillyB's problem s no one can love him as much as he loves himself.

Many men would love to have my "problems". ;)
 
Bear  and others, what is the goal by insinuating I have bad character traits this late into the game?
 
Bear, I'm sure you've done detective work being a cop. For a guy to successful in attracting lots of women, get repeat dates, have a decent number of those ladies wanting to marry him, do you think he does it by loving himself more than women or does attract women by loving and taking care of them better than he does himself?
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1716 on: November 24, 2011, 08:59:48 AM »
Nice to see A is adjusting Billy. I hope you plan on showing her what a nice Thanksgiving dinner is like? Happy TG to you and your lady by the way....
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1717 on: November 24, 2011, 03:26:43 PM »
   
Many men would love to have my "problems". ;)
 
Bear  and others, what is the goal by insinuating I have bad character traits this late into the game?
 
Bear, I'm sure you've done detective work being a cop. For a guy to successful in attracting lots of women, get repeat dates, have a decent number of those ladies wanting to marry him, do you think he does it by loving himself more than women or does attract women by loving and taking care of them better than he does himself?

Yes BillyB I have done my share of investigations into a variety of criminal activities and usually when I am interviewing/interrogating someone and I smell B.S I gather the facts then I call them on it.  Now with that said could you please point out where I specifically stated that you had bad charactor traits?  I made a comment about no one loving you as much as yourself, not about specific traits. 
 Recently you come across as arrogant, pompous and egotistical- you like to brag and boast about your accomplishments and conquests, you like to tell everyone that you are the greatest thing since sliced bread and god's gift to the female population- this tells me you want attention.  Over the years you have posted some good information and appeared to be a normal working guy that has done ok for himself.  But over the last 2 years you have started telling anyone and everyone about how great you are and how many women are wanting to marry you.  Then when you started going after A, you got worse.  You have made statements that have rubbed me the wrong way and I have my opinions about your relationship with A, but it really doesn't matter what I think because it is between you and A. There is a difference between confidence and bragging and in my experience I have found that the truely confident men do not need to brag about themselves in order to impress others.
   I have been very fortunate in 2011, I was promoted, moved to Germany and married all within 3 months.  My wife is an amazing lady and my life has improved greatly since she became a part of it, but you don't see me posting her bra size, our sexual wants/needs desires etc...  Her mother was a Doctor (now retired) for 37 years and I would never even think about discussing our sex life with her, some things should remain between a husband and a wife and not shared with the whole world to see. My wife and I are both adults and we should be able to handle our problems without dragging family into it.  My wife is my partner and we both make decisions in our relationship, for the important decisions we talk to each other and then make a decision together.  Sometimes I will make a decision and if she doesn't agree with it we discuss it like adults. The difference between you and I is that I do not want a submissive wife, I have been with submissive women before and I had no respect for them and I became bored very quickly.  I want a partner that will be there standing next to me during the good times and the bad times. I want my partner to challenge me mentally and not just take everything I say as gospel. I get satisfaction out of helping and encouraging my wife to grow then if I just did everything for her.   
 As far as my feelings towards you-I have none.  I think I would have a better chance winning the lottery then of us ever meeting in person.  Your 70 some odd pages of boasting, bragging etc... were amusing (like watching a train wreck about to happen), but it has become boring and predictable lately.  Your story could be true or you could be making everything up for your fantasy. It is immaterial to me either way, it is your life and it has no effect on me.  Once my wife arrives here in December I will not be coming to RWD much,  so what you say or allegedly do will matter even less then now.
Personally I think you should have just gone out and purchased a red sports car for your midlife crisis, but that's just me.
 
     
 
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1718 on: November 24, 2011, 05:27:59 PM »
you should have just gone out and purchased a red sports car
They're very expensive. ;)

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« Reply #1719 on: November 24, 2011, 06:23:51 PM »
They're very expensive. ;)
   Still cheaper then marriage  ;D
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« Reply #1720 on: November 24, 2011, 07:49:39 PM »
So he rubs you the wrong way. Get over it and don't read his thread and you won't be.  :rolleyes2:
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« Reply #1721 on: November 25, 2011, 08:18:47 AM »
....We could have very well been walking in Home Depot as you typed that. We didn't buy anything but A look around getting some ideas but not rushing anything. After the busy holidays we may change some things one room at a time. ....

 
Yeah, Popski would've happily taken residency there the first time he set foot at Home Depot. Talk about kid in a candy store and much to Mumski's chagrin..
 
 
Good luck and have fun on the re-decor. Stay away from IKEA. Pure garbage.
 
 
Without going upscale, I'm a Restoration Hardware kind of guy. I love that place. Great criblot collections and traditionally American. Their patio furnishings are to-die-for. Z Gallery can sometime offer some good ones, too when they don't tip too far off the contemporary scale.
 
 
Crate&Barrel and Williams-Sonoma are great for the kitchen.
 
 
Hope you shared your first Thanksgiving Day feast!
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1722 on: November 29, 2011, 01:24:39 AM »
 
Week 1 is done and I survived!
 
A and I went to my parents house for Thanksgiving and A was able to meet about 50 of my family members. After Thanksgiving we went Black Friday shopping starting at midnight Thursday. We didn't get any sleep but A enjoyed shopping. Fortunately for me she prefers to buy things on sale. She looked real interested in a few things not on sale and I told her I'd buy it but she refused and said "it costs too much."
 
So far no crying and I suspect I won't see it from A unless I turn into a monster. Her cooking needs improvement but she tries. I'm going to have to be patient on this issue. I want to go out to restaurants more often but A won't allow it. She eats little. Sometimes a small salad for dinner and she may or may not eat a small portion of meat once a day. She said she doesn't want to be an elephant. I'm glad she cares about her body.
 
During the first week we watched no tv and A was on the computer once to write friends and family back home. She calls mom everyday though.
 
You have made statements that have rubbed me the wrong way

There are some things I wrote in this thread on purpose never to offend RW but push things to the limit and it was interesting to see a few WM get worked up. RW have handled what I said far better and if newbies want to succeed, they need to have more balls than RW. There are a few reasons why RW aren't as bothered as some men. Most of what I wrote down for everyone here is from what I learned from RW and I've presented a few things as openly as RW have presented them to me. Another reason RW don't get worked up is that if a guy can win over "the girl" he must have a lot of good things going for him. Now a guy can get insulted by what I write or he can take that info, improve his life and transfer those benefits to the ladies he crosses paths with.
 
The difference between you and I is that I do not want a submissive wife,

Did I say I want a submissive wife? I did say that when a woman adores and respects her man, it will affect her behavior and she will submit to him.
 
   I want a partner that will be there standing next to me during the good times and the bad times. I want my partner to challenge me mentally and not just take everything I say as gospel. I get satisfaction out of helping and encouraging my wife to grow then if I just did everything for her.   
 

That's what I want too but A is still young and she's not going to challenge me as much as an older woman but she exhibits a high level of loyalty and devotion and that is important to me.
 
  Your story could be true or you could be making everything up for your fantasy.

Got to pick which side of the fence you're on before making posts in this thread. You claim I'm bragging but that is not possible if this is fantasy where the women I'm talking about don't exist.
 
Good luck and have fun on the re-decor. Stay away from IKEA. Pure garbage.
 

I took A to IKEA and she doesn't like the style of furniture there. We went to JR furniture and she likes the antique style furniture they have. For now we're just window shopping and haven't bought any furniture yet. I told A to take it slow otherwise she'll regret buying things on impulse and wish she decorated the home differently.
 
Hope you shared your first Thanksgiving Day feast!

We did and I'm going to share my fantasy with you in the first photo below. A amazingly adjusted to the time zone without missing a beat but I was mentally exhausted trying to make sure things are going smooth for her. Second photo is taken at Victoria's Secret during Black Friday shopping. Third photo is taken at Pike Place market in Seattle which is a must visit for tourists. Fourth photo is at a park near Pike Place and behind A's head are the stadiums the Seattle Seahawks and Mariners play. Fifth photo was taken at a park with a good view of Seattle.
 
 
 
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1723 on: November 29, 2011, 03:27:30 AM »
Wow, she will be good looking when she grows up. But she doesn't look like your daughter though, for obvious reasons. Who is she? The daughter of a friend?

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« Reply #1724 on: November 29, 2011, 06:46:34 AM »
Really nice pics Billy.  She looks happy in her new life.  I do think on of the advantages of younger women is they adapt better to a life change.  It sounds like things are running smoothly and hopefully she will find the happiness that she dreamed of.
 
I do think if a relationship or move to be with a man has problems they start early and just get worse as time goes along.  It sounds like there are no problems yet so that is most likely a good sign.

 

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