hello everyone :)

[mialia]

Welcome to RWD Yuliya.
You asked quite a few questions in your posts, so I will try to answer from my experiences. I have been to Russia twice and recently had a Kazak girl visit me in the US. Even though I had spent some time with these girls, not everything about them clicked, so I'm still looking. The thing that attracts me first is the legs and how they dress. Then I talk with them and see how they perceive life and their goals. I love the accents as well and a smiling face is always a must.
They ranged from limited English to fluent, but if you talk to anyone, English is the hardest language to learn. They also ranged from never traveled outside of their country to world traveler.
High maintenance and stubborn personalities are a turn-off. Down-to-Earth women mark high on my list also someone who is curious about exploring the world together.
Where in Ukraine do you reside?
What other sites (if any) are you searching for Mr. Right.


Hello, thanks for the reply

i can't agree with you in the question of English, beign hard to learn, it is not due to my work it was necessary for me to go and stay in the country, whose language i do not know yet, so i have good opportunity to compare the level of difficulties in the field of studying languages and believe me - English was not the hardest one .

what about other sites - i'm a member of ElenasModels, but my profile is hidden at the moment, as i have had rather disappointing experience thats why i'm here, actually ) trying to understand you, guys

[Seeker]

what about other sites - i'm a member of ElenasModels, but my profile is hidden at the moment, as i have had rather disappointing experience  thats why i'm here, actually  ) trying to understand you, guys 

That is pretty much why some of us are here too (except switch guys for women).  Women in general... not always FSU women... can be confusing for the best of us.  That is a good thing in my mind.  We are meant to add to each other, to be the second half (to sound overly romantic) of the whole.  I think in many ways, it does not matter where we are from.  People are still the same.

For me, I want a person in my life as an equal, a partner.  And that is what I look for if I get the chance to know someone.

But my first attraction has always been the eyes and the smile.  And if the 'person' behind them seems right, then I want to know more.

Of course that is just one opinion among thousands. 

[BillyB]

what about other sites - i'm a member of ElenasModels, but my profile is hidden at the moment, as i have had rather disappointing experience  thats why i'm here, actually ) trying to understand you, guys 

Yuliya, you seem like a good girl and I'm going to give you the "Friends and Family" 50% off discount for the advice I'm about to give you. I normally charge $100 but for you it'll be $80. I accept cash and all major credit cards.

Put your profile on other agency sites. Use dating sites too. Freepersonals.ru and bride.ru are good ones. If you are willing to marry Russian men overseas, Mamba.ru is a good one too. At mamba list your profile in a major city of your choice from any country you desire to live. You will get lots of attention. If no interesting men are in that city, change your profile to another city or make multiple profiles at the same time in different cities. On the other dating sites you should list the city that you live in since men that use those sites are not looking for local girls in their own city.

New profiles get the most attention. When your profile gets old, it gets shuffled to the back so get rid of old profiles and keep yours new always. New profiles and maximum exposure will give you a bigger selection of good men to choose from. Do as I say and your life will get very busy on the internet. You may thank me or hate me after that.

What are your disappointing experiences at EM? Agency problems or not much quality men there?

[mialia]

Yuliya, you seem like a good girl and I'm going to give you the "Friends and Family" 50% off discount for the advice I'm about to give you. I normally charge $100 but for you it'll be $80. I accept cash and all major credit cards.

Put your profile on other agency sites. Use dating sites too. Freepersonals.ru and bride.ru are good ones. If you are willing to marry Russian men overseas, Mamba.ru is a good one too. At mamba list your profile in a major city of your choice from any country you desire to live. You will get lots of attention. If no interesting men are in that city, change your profile to another city or make multiple profiles at the same time in different cities. On the other dating sites you should list the city that you live in since men that use those sites are not looking for local girls in their own city.

New profiles get the most attention. When your profile gets old, it gets shuffled to the back so get rid of old profiles and keep yours new always. New profiles and maximum exposure will give you a bigger selection of good men to choose from. Do as I say and your life will get very busy on the internet. You may thank me or hate me after that.

What are your disappointing experiences at EM? Agency problems or not much quality men there?

thanks a lot for a advice and for discount too i have been on mamba too, i know how it works , but I'm off from there as well, as from EM , first reason is - because i don't take that site serious at all i have received so much shit (excuse my English ) in the letters on that site, that started to think that it was created for the maniacs , so i believe i am very lucky that i met a few people there, who are intresting and intelligent, who became my friends. what about EM - no, no problems with the agency at all... well ... the only thing is - they check the girls so hard, it takes a few days to create a profile over there, but seems like they don't check men at all, because i was contacted by the wife of one of the guys. he was '"happily married", as his wife said, while  we were about to finalize the date of our  meeting . also i got disappointed by people not coming to visit, - that's what i will never understand men are paying to the agency around 500 $ per month if I'm not mistaken, to be able to choose, also they pay to get the right to write a letter to the woman they like, so i have no idea why they waste such a money and don't give a chance to themselves to see what may happen in real life????? what was the reason of few months of letters and flowers and gifts? i don't like flowers, but nobody cares, all think its a right thing to do )). or another reason - when everything goes too quickly: he is not spelling my name properly yet, but already saying he loves me in a third letter ))) how i can take such a person seriously? )
i don't think its about low quality of agency or guys, i believe that me and them were on the different levels of perception, of vision certain things. its like elevators  in the multistory building: me, with my expectations, I'm on 8th floor, for example, and guys with their offers are on 6th. So i got disappointed that i get less than i wanted and guys get disappointed with me not being happy, while they give all they can give )))) so, i assumed that to have a good connection - we need to be on the same level of perception, and to get to the same level we need to know as much as its possible about vision that the other person have, so you know you can go up with your expectations, or you should go down, because the other person is not on the same level yet...

[BillyB]

Thanks mialia for your long and detailed response. You can now have my previous advice for free! Much of what you say is the same experiences other RW I've met have had.

Do not be discouraged and quit! Stay focused and when you find that good man for your life, your efforts will be rewarded. Just because a good man sends you flowers and gifts and never visits you doesn't mean he won't visit anybody. He may have changed his mind and decided to visit another RW. It's all part of the selection process and you have every right to ignore or meet the men who you think is or isn't right for you.

There are many married men contacting FSU women. I've heard a number of stories. Men are trying to trade up for a better deal too. Married men tend to be attractive to women because they don't show desperation and usually have good charisma and women like you will be attracted to them. The man who can attract a lot of women is an attractive mate because he has a lot of desirable qualities. A married man who wants to cheat on his wife is also lacking qualities such as honesty and fidelity so he is not a good candidate for a long term relationship. It's hard to discover those character traits through communication and those traits would need to be discovered over time with any person.

You mention there are a lot of manics on EM and I believe you. If a guy was decent looking, communicated with women like a gentleman, displaying his manners and intelligence through communication, lots of RW including you will admire him. Those quality men can get the attention of a lot of women and they have plenty of women to choose from. They may visit you or they may visit another RW.

[GQBlues]

....what about EM - no, no problems with the agency at all... well ... the only thing is - they check the girls so hard, it takes a few days to create a profile over there, but seems like they don't check men at all, because i was contacted by the wife of one of the guys. he was '"happily married", as his wife said, while  we were about to finalize the date of our  meeting ...

You may want to speak with EM about that, especially if it happened recently. There's a US law called IMBRA (and other state legislations) currently in place that actually make the dating agencies require criminal and personal status information from American men, including but not limited to historical sexual crimes &  marital status, BEFORE these men can be provided foreign women's personal contact information.

Duty to Disclose Criminal and Marital History and Obtain Written Consent. Before a (for fee) IMB may provide a foreign national client’s personal contact information to a United States client, the IMB must: (1) search sex offender public registries for information regarding the United States client; (2) collect certain criminal and marital background information through documentation or an attestation from the United States client; (3) provide to the foreign national client any records retrieved from the sex offender public registry search and the background information collected in her primary language; (4) provide to the foreign national client a government-prepared information pamphlet about the legal rights and resources available in the U.S. to immigrant victims of domestic violence and other crimes; and (5) obtain the foreign national client’s signed, written consent to the release of her information to the United States client. (Sections 833(d)(2) and (3))...

What you said happened to you is one of the things our government is trying to regulate/prevent for YOUR welfare. It is required of international dating agencies to make sure they receive this information from American men and are suppose to convey such information to you. Ask EM why they didn't do/get this with/from this man.

There are, unfortunately, many men who opposes such law/legislations. You can read it here.

If you weren't aware of this law, read up on it and spread the word. It is supposed to give foreign women involved on international dating due warning of the US men that they may be interested in getting personally involved with.  

Read up on it and take advantage of it - spread the word.

[BillyB]

Before a (for fee) IMB may provide a foreign national client’s personal contact information to a United States client..........,

I don't know how all EM works but I don't think Yuliya's phone, email or postal address is provided to any of the men she communicates with. The ladies and men only communicate through the agency's chat system so the forms do not need to be filled out until the men buy her contact info outright if EM even sells it. Seriphimangel mentioned he communicated with lots of ladies from Aweb through their chat system and never had to fill out any forms or provide proof of sexual, criminal or marriage history. If Yuliya gives her phone number to a guy she communicates with through EM, I doubt EM would ever find out to send the guy a form to fill out.

[mialia]

Thanks mialia for your long and detailed response. You can now have my previous advice for free! Much of what you say is the same experiences other RW I've met have had.

Do not be discouraged and quit! Stay focused and when you find that good man for your life, your efforts will be rewarded. Just because a good man sends you flowers and gifts and never visits you doesn't mean he won't visit anybody. He may have changed his mind and decided to visit another RW. It's all part of the selection process and you have every right to ignore or meet the men who you think is or isn't right for you.

There are many married men contacting FSU women. I've heard a number of stories. Men are trying to trade up for a better deal too. Married men tend to be attractive to women because they don't show desperation and usually have good charisma and women like you will be attracted to them. The man who can attract a lot of women is an attractive mate because he has a lot of desirable qualities. A married man who wants to cheat on his wife is also lacking qualities such as honesty and fidelity so he is not a good candidate for a long term relationship. It's hard to discover those character traits through communication and those traits would need to be discovered over time with any person.

You mention there are a lot of manics on EM and I believe you. If a guy was decent looking, communicated with women like a gentleman, displaying his manners and intelligence through communication, lots of RW including you will admire him. Those quality men can get the attention of a lot of women and they have plenty of women to choose from. They may visit you or they may visit another RW.

oh my )) just read carefully to what i wrote

first: i didn't give up - i took a break, to learn more.

second: maniacs were on Mamba, but not on EM. and when i say maniac  i mean "sick person", somebody, who sends dirty letters or naked photos or whatever, it happens often on the free dating sites. the one who you described as: "decent looking, communicated with women like a gentleman, displaying his manners and intelligence through communication, lots of RW including you will admire him. Those quality men can get the attention of a lot of women and they have plenty of women to choose from. They may visit you or they may visit another RW." - is not a maniac, he is just weak and not self-confident individual, who is trying to increase his level of self-confidence by amount of women, w/o thinking about quality of this relationships, by behaving himself as he is not at the marriage agency, but at the butchery store, choosing between legs and breasts and checking presence of wings )))))))

third: i never was attracted to the married guys - they are simply not exist for me, no matter how huge the charisma is

fourth:  all that i wrote was about me, being disappointed not by certain actions, but by total disability to say the truth.. in first case about marriage, in second case about visit. people think if they are on the internet - no need to take the responsibility for their words or actions, because they may never see their visavi, so no matter what she or he will think about you or how will feel. that is what i meant by different level of perception - someone is serious and someone is at the butchery store


hope i am more clear now

[BillyB]

second: maniacs were on Mamba, but not on EM. and when i say maniac  i mean "sick person", somebody, who sends dirty letters or naked photos or whatever.....

Yulia, you are now one of the few ladies I know who have admitted to using a marriage agency and Mamba. Mamba has mostly Russian speaking persons participating there. Since most of the maniacs were there, would you say the Western men you've communicated on with on dating sites are on average more mentally healthy than the Russian men? Based on my experience I feel like the average Russian man can't attract RW as much as I can so I feel they must be doing something wrong and maybe it's their poor communication skills when talking to women or just talking dirty and sending nude photos.

[SFandEE]

Hang in there with RWD Yuliya (Yulia?)  I am glad you are posting and hope we can sort through this together and learn from each other.  I like most AM are concerned to hear that you are exposed to vulgarities through this process.  Perhaps the suggestion to report this man will be helpful for everyone--we certainly don't need any extra AM and UW who are not interested in a relationship pretending to be so.

I hope that there has been some fun for you in this as well.  I have met some nice people.  I am trying to transition a in person connection into something more.  No doubt this will require a return this Summer to Ukraine. 

Has no one come to meet you in Ukraine?  I have not worked with EM and I perceive them to be different than AFA.  What I saw was that most of the women were not available for many of the men when they were trying to meet them.  Even those who had expressed interest in meeting prior to their arrival.  My experience wasn't as harsh, but it is so clever the business of international relationships.

[mialia]

Yulia, you are now one of the few ladies I know who have admitted to using a marriage agency and Mamba. Mamba has mostly Russian speaking persons participating there. Since most of the maniacs were there, would you say the Western men you've communicated on with on dating sites are on average more mentally healthy than the Russian men? Based on my experience I feel like the average Russian man can't attract RW as much as I can so I feel they must be doing something wrong and maybe it's their poor communication skills when talking to women or just talking dirty and sending nude photos.

i'm asking you again to read carefully everything i wrote, PLEASE   because you are taking me wrong in every point. No, i would never say that one nation is more mentaly healthy than the other. i would never compare people by their nationality, like russians are good and americans are bad or whatever, as you asked me to do, because i believe that there are good and bad people everywhere, no any nation is better than the other. what i was saying about Mamaba -is not like "mostly Russian speaking persons participating there." its about free of charge dating site, where everybody can create the profile and say whatever he or she wants, so its full of maniacs. once more i repeat: Mamba is full of maniacs not because its mostly russian-speaking site, but because its free dating site and they don't check the people who is in there. you can have the a photos of a beautifull young woman at the profile and old fat guy who is laughing at you behind this profile ))). very often ). again, not because its rusians, but because its free ))

[BillyB]

No, i would never say that one nation is more mentaly healthy than the other. i would never compare people by their nationality,

Yuliya, you are misunderstanding me more than I am misunderstand you. I'm not asking you to judge nationality. You told us you had two different experiences between paid marriage agencies and free dating sites. My question to you had nothing to do with paid or free. "Free" and the lack of checking profiles doesn't make people talk dirty to you. It's "people" who talk dirty to you. The marriage agency deals mostly with Western men and the free site Mamba has mostly Russian men there. Regardless if you think every profile that talks dirty to you on Mamba is fake, it's most likely a Russian man speaking to you this way. If I tell you that 4 black men, 5 white men and 3 Asian men talked dirty to me, I am not judging their race or nationality, I am simply telling you my experience. You came here to learn something about us and our experiences and I've asked you questions to learn about your experiences.

I have not talked to many RW who used marriage agencies and I always believe they get a lot of men talking dirty to them but from your experience, the Western men who use agencies are not that bad.

[mialia]

Booo!

I'm not really considered masculine, just in decent shape.  Most people tell me I'm a very pretty looking guy... just more things that don't fare well for me on the russian market!

Gah!

what the beauty is compare to the eternity? LOL.. it will pass away with the age, without leaving any traces. charisma will stay with you till your last day on this earth if you have it . that's why i don't pay much attention to the outside beauty. i do appreciate it, but i don't look for it.

[mialia]

Glad to meet you Yulma and I am also glad that my comments were helpful.  I appreciate your thoughts on language skills, this makes sense.  I understand your passion for learning a new language, since Spanish is my strongest non-English language.  My challenge for Russian is that my brain first wants to go to Spanish and then Russian.  When I am in Ukraine for a while it begins to stop doing this, but sometimes it makes for funny situations.

You mention that you are curious about profiles.  Since you are sincere in searching for love abroad.  What would be your expectation of a good response to your profile?  (Five a week, ten a week, one a week?) I imagine the response could vary a great deal for a lot of reasons.  

good response? ...   not sure i understand what  do you mean. Its like how many expressions of interest i would like to receive to my profile? or how many from those that i receive  i would like to be the ones i  am interested in? in first case - my answer is : i do not care about the quantity. when i was on the EM - i have had around 10 people per day (well.. plus minus) writing me. i was there since December to April, lets take it rough - i have had over than thousand people contacted me during this 5 months. i had more or less serious talk with only 4 of them. so here comes the answer on my second question - i wish i was contacted only by those four men and let the rest just pass by

[mialia]

You may want to speak with EM about that, especially if it happened recently. There's a US law called IMBRA (and other state legislations) currently in place that actually make the dating agencies require criminal and personal status information from American men, including but not limited to historical sexual crimes &  marital status, BEFORE these men can be provided foreign women's personal contact information.

Duty to Disclose Criminal and Marital History and Obtain Written Consent. Before a (for fee) IMB may provide a foreign national client’s personal contact information to a United States client, the IMB must: (1) search sex offender public registries for information regarding the United States client; (2) collect certain criminal and marital background information through documentation or an attestation from the United States client; (3) provide to the foreign national client any records retrieved from the sex offender public registry search and the background information collected in her primary language; (4) provide to the foreign national client a government-prepared information pamphlet about the legal rights and resources available in the U.S. to immigrant victims of domestic violence and other crimes; and (5) obtain the foreign national client’s signed, written consent to the release of her information to the United States client. (Sections 833(d)(2) and (3))...

What you said happened to you is one of the things our government is trying to regulate/prevent for YOUR welfare. It is required of international dating agencies to make sure they receive this information from American men and are suppose to convey such information to you. Ask EM why they didn't do/get this with/from this man.

There are, unfortunately, many men who opposes such law/legislations. You can read it here.

If you weren't aware of this law, read up on it and spread the word. It is supposed to give foreign women involved on international dating due warning of the US men that they may be interested in getting personally involved with.  

Read up on it and take advantage of it - spread the word.

thanks a lot for the information )

i did contacted the administration of the site after i received a letter from the guy's wife, they said they will take care of it. and the point is that they have it on EM, i mean every AM has to fill kind of form, where there is a marriage status information and everything, so this form is posted in his profile and any woman can't start the conversation with AM there before she "sign" for " yes, i have read this information about this person and i agree to start to talk to him". That married guy had this form filled too...

[mialia]

Hang in there with RWD Yuliya (Yulia?)  I am glad you are posting and hope we can sort through this together and learn from each other.  I like most AM are concerned to hear that you are exposed to vulgarities through this process.  Perhaps the suggestion to report this man will be helpful for everyone--we certainly don't need any extra AM and UW who are not interested in a relationship pretending to be so.

I hope that there has been some fun for you in this as well.  I have met some nice people.  I am trying to transition a in person connection into something more.  No doubt this will require a return this Summer to Ukraine. 

Has no one come to meet you in Ukraine?  I have not worked with EM and I perceive them to be different than AFA.  What I saw was that most of the women were not available for many of the men when they were trying to meet them.  Even those who had expressed interest in meeting prior to their arrival.  My experience wasn't as harsh, but it is so clever the business of international relationships.

hello, thank you for the reply. (by the way i'm Yuliya )

i really didn't mean to sound so negative of course i have had some good experience and made some friends i have had a few meetings with foreigners, first one was a total disaster for me, and second time i have met a nice guy, but we have had too different vision on certain things, so decided to stay friends. i mean according to my general experience - there are so many people, who are not sincere about their visit, too busy with work - is the usual answer. or they want to visit, but in a long time, so its like 2-3 months of letters and then i have to wait another 2-3 months for him to come, like relationships is something you can put into the frige untill the right time ). it is not according to my experience at least

[diverboy70]

Hi Yulia,

You can read a little about my thoughts at this thread  http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=11759.msg230439;topicseen#msg230439

You are also welcome to contact me by PM, then we coould discuss it more

Wish you a nice evening!

[mialia]

Yuliya, you are misunderstanding me more than I am misunderstand you. I'm not asking you to judge nationality. You told us you had two different experiences between paid marriage agencies and free dating sites. My question to you had nothing to do with paid or free. "Free" and the lack of checking profiles doesn't make people talk dirty to you. It's "people" who talk dirty to you. The marriage agency deals mostly with Western men and the free site Mamba has mostly Russian men there. Regardless if you think every profile that talks dirty to you on Mamba is fake, it's most likely a Russian man speaking to you this way. If I tell you that 4 black men, 5 white men and 3 Asian men talked dirty to me, I am not judging their race or nationality, I am simply telling you my experience. You came here to learn something about us and our experiences and I've asked you questions to learn about your experiences.

I have not talked to many RW who used marriage agencies and I always believe they get a lot of men talking dirty to them but from your experience, the Western men who use agencies are not that bad.

if its not about the nationality, so why did you bring up the question of "Russians" talking dirty, and "Western" being not that bad? what is it then? what i was saying is: Mamba has more maniacs, because its free of charge dating site, where everybody can go and say whatever even without showing his real face, on EM you have to pay 500$ per month, so i believe that even sick people are not that sick to pay 500 for being able to spread their sick fantasies. lol
to make my statement more understandable - i'll compare EM to the 5* restaurant, where there is low chance for you to meet somebody who is mentaly sick, comparing to the public buffet, (what Mamba is, actually) where people from different levels of society are.  ))

hope we are clear now

[Faux Pas]

Hi Yuliya! Welcome to RWD. I was once a member at Elena's and I don't remember it being as pricey as you are quoting it here. I believe I had the silver membership and it was about $150 for 50 contacts for 6 months. I thought at the time that is was a reasonable fee.  Naturally, I would like to believe the more honest men were using EMs as I was but, that may not be the case. I did however find the women more receptive and honest in their search at EMs as opposed to elsewhere. I did not communicate with any woman who seemed insincere. Of course I am sure there are a number of insincere woman at EM's as well as the ego stroking (among other things) men. FWIW

[mialia]

Hi Yulia,

You can read a little about my thoughts at this thread  http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=11759.msg230439;topicseen#msg230439

You are also welcome to contact me by PM, then we coould discuss it more

Wish you a nice evening!

hi Nice to meet you

i liked what you have wrote and i like your vision of us and i appreciate your ability to understand us, because you do understand us goood, as i saw )))

[Rutherford]

If I were to start looking again , for a RW ,  what would attract me most  is this .
She would love the temperature  below 78 degrees , and not 90  like my current wife , guess that's the only serious complaint  I have with my wife .

I remember looking at the photo first , age , weight , height , smoking ,  employment , somewhat in that order , when looking at profiles

RR

[mialia]

Hi Yuliya! Welcome to RWD. I was once a member at Elena's and I don't remember it being as pricey as you are quoting it here. I believe I had the silver membership and it was about $150 for 50 contacts for 6 months. I thought at the time that is was a reasonable fee.  Naturally, I would like to believe the more honest men were using EMs as I was but, that may not be the case. I did however find the women more receptive and honest in their search at EMs as opposed to elsewhere. I did not communicate with any woman who seemed insincere. Of course I am sure there are a number of insincere woman at EM's as well as the ego stroking (among other things) men. FWIW

hello may be i'm wrong about the price, as i just repeated the one which i was told by one friend of mine, ho rejected the membership because of this. there are a few levels, if i'm not mistaken, silver, gold and platinum, so may be he was talking about platinum one, anyway it is no matter now my post was not about prices at the agencies, but about difference of people on paid sites and free sites. Paid ones are much better .
me too i'm sure there are a lot of insincere women on any site too. May be its on of the reasons why men are insincere? because they have had a bad experience? i believe that it is always about both sides, men and women, despite to the description that EM gave to their own site, something like : dear ladies, to find husband through the internet  - its a huge work to do, so take it as a rule to write to 20 men per day, because you will have only 2 responses from that 20, also keep talking to the 5-10 guys at the same time, so you can see how serious they are by comparing them." So, according to what they wrote - almost no chance to get a man to visit you  and its true. for 5 months i've been there, i had more than 1000 man contacted me, more than 2-3 letters i wrote to about 10 guys, 4 guys - were were serious about coming, but came to visit only 2, one became a friend and other visit was a total disaster but we sorted it out so friends now too

[Blues Fairy]

to find husband through the internet  - its a huge work to do

Unfortunately it is so; but don't get discouraged.  Five months is nothing; just to put things into perspective for you, it took me 3 years to find my perfect guy.  Three years of sorting through tons of plankton to find a golden fish.  But in the end, it's totally worth it.

Of course it would be nice if only serious guys who planned to visit ever wrote you, but alas, big expectations will bring big disappointment.  Keep swimming and keep searching.  Keep your expectations low and your standards high. Sometimes, just looking for true friends on the internet, without a larger purpose, may ultimately lead you to find your destiny.    

One more thing; if you find that those men who write you are invariably low quality, perhaps it's time to reconsider your strategy and become a little more proactive in your search.  Maybe rewrite your profile as well. 

[Faux Pas]

hello may be i'm wrong about the price, as i just repeated the one which i was told by one friend of mine, ho rejected the membership because of this. there are a few levels, if i'm not mistaken, silver, gold and platinum, so may be he was talking about platinum one, anyway it is no matter now my post was not about prices at the agencies, but about difference of people on paid sites and free sites. Paid ones are much better .
me too i'm sure there are a lot of insincere women on any site too. May be its on of the reasons why men are insincere? because they have had a bad experience? i believe that it is always about both sides, men and women, despite to the description that EM gave to their own site, something like : dear ladies, to find husband through the internet  - its a huge work to do, so take it as a rule to write to 20 men per day, because you will have only 2 responses from that 20, also keep talking to the 5-10 guys at the same time, so you can see how serious they are by comparing them." So, according to what they wrote - almost no chance to get a man to visit you  and its true. for 5 months i've been there, i had more than 1000 man contacted me, more than 2-3 letters i wrote to about 10 guys, 4 guys - were were serious about coming, but came to visit only 2, one became a friend and other visit was a total disaster but we sorted it out so friends now too

As I try to recount my EMs experience I believe I had the Gold membership and renewed it once so That put me at about $300 in fees to EMs. Again, quite reasonable and it was a lot of work. I had previously joined one or two of the "bait and switch" places where they only wanted men to purchase credits for sending and receiving letters. That particular model didn't work out to my satisfaction.

I enjoyed EM's and received many letters from ladies and as I mentioned in the last post, I never had a reason to believe any of them were insincere. I received many letters on EMs I never read because once opening them, it was considered a contact. I would normally look at the ladies profile first and if I was interested, then I would open the email. Luckily for me I met my now wife relatively early into my renewal on EMs. I had corresponded with probably 50-60 ladies from EMs and would recommend EMs to any man looking for introductions to ladies in the FSU. There are a lot of shady characters and agencies out there and I consider myself pretty lucky for my situation to work out like it did. I was a WOVO (first time with a back up plan) and after a number of more trips fell in love married the first lady I visited.

I think that is just a "luck of the draw" or blind luck but I am happy with it. If not for EMs, it likely would have happened that way for me. I was about to give up. I would advise you to keep at it as long as you have the desire. You strike me as a nice level headed, intelligent lady who will likely make her own luck . For me, making my own luck was required. It may be required for you too.

[BillyB]

on EM you have to pay 500$ per month,

I checked and Faux Pas is correct that membership can be had for much cheaper. An employee of mine had a son who spent $900 one month of phone sex. Those guys who live in a fanasty World can cross over into your realm of reality in an effort to find a full time bed buddy and a few hundred is nothing if they are spending thousands on porn and prostitutes.

Am actually happy you are finding quality men at the marriage agency who is communicating with you in a respectful manner. I would have thought worse of the men who use marriage agencies but some of my beliefs are influenced by what I read and see in the media. It's still possible that many nice guys talking to you are a different person once you get to know them so always be careful with who you meet and judge them on how they act towards others more than how they act towards yourself.