more single men than women article

[facetrock]

  When I get to know a woman on skype I always ask here how many letters she gets at the sites she is using. They have no problem telling me and it doesnt bother them in the least. What I have found is the newer they are the more letters they get. After a few months it settles down anywhere from on to ten a day for a good looking woman. Makes sense to me. I have asked if they get letters from men ten or more years younger. They all say they do but also say ninety percent are from Turkish men and the other ten percent are so damn ugly they could stop a freight train.
  Any decent normal looking guy in his twentys or early thirties will figure out quickly he doesnt have to go for women in their late thirties or early forties from the FSU. IMHO men who have a thing for women ten or fifteen years older just miss their mommy.

[redgsxr1k02]

Ha, if I was going to Las Vegas, I'd also be going for more handsome (I'm not sure about younger though)  
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Come on over, the sand and the rocks are nice and cool right now, I'm sure you can find lots handsome man or boys here in sin city.... :evil:

[Nat]

facetrock, I probably wouldn't be that strict in saying that people on the sites are of somehow less than good quality.

I second facet here - there can be a very small percent of decent people there, who are just curious or who use the internet in everyday life and are used to doing everything on it, including part of their everyday socialising, but the vast majority there have serious issues.

Dating sites are comfortable for someone who would be willing to work a little and to give it a try. By placing a profile on a site, people declare their availability at least, whereas in real life this is not visible. If we are hungry, we go to supermarket or cafe. If we need clothes, we go to a mall or boutique. If we are single and would like to change it, we go to the dating sites to see, who else would be available. It is as simple as that

It would be so in an ideal variant. And in real world, people who are "available" and have no trouble with relationship subconsciously know how to give out signals about their availability for relationship, even when they are in supermarkets, cafes, working, having fun, etc. So they get to know somebody who receives their signals before they even start thinking about dating sites Those, who have some trouble with confidence, are shy or have more serious relationship issues have Internet as an option.

[tfcrew]

From the article...
 

...this cover picture on it that said,  'Attack of the Single Woman,’ and it had this giant woman with a big red dress like Godzilla tromping through the city,"

I would have illustrated more like a herd of flabby cattle but Godzilla in a red dress?...I've gotta see that!

[ML]

It would be so in an ideal variant. And in real world, people who are "available" and have no trouble with relationship subconsciously know how to give out signals about their availability for relationship, even when they are in supermarkets, cafes, working, having fun, etc. So they get to know somebody who receives their signals before they even start thinking about dating sites Those, who have some trouble with confidence, are shy or have more serious relationship issues have Internet as an option.

Perhaps true for same city and same country dating.  But Internet dating sites are ideal for those who plan to be in another city or country.  I do meet women in supermarket and McDonalds, etc., in every city and country I travel in, but for every one of those, you can meet 20 on INet Dating site.

This is the 21st Century way and is Harasho.

[Nat]

Perhaps true for same city and same country dating.  But Internet dating sites are ideal for those who plan to be in another city or country.  I do meet women in supermarket and McDonalds, etc., in every city and country I travel in, but for every one of those, you can meet 20 on INet Dating site.

This is the 21st Century way and is Harasho.

You mean, "who plan to be in another city and have some sex without obligations"? Well, that's an option for some people too

[Gator]

IMHO men who have a thing for women ten or fifteen years older just miss their mommy.

Or, they are looking for a free ride, a provider.  One of my son's friends (now 30) has had a series of relationships with older women.  The women let him move in and after a year or so kick him out.  One of these women is a successful physician and another is an attorney.  He flits around with unrealistic plans and blue sky dreams, meanwhile not paying rent.   

[Jooky]

Why I don't buy these more men than women stories...

Why is it always the 'handsome lawyer from Harvard with a passion for social causes*' that is 'left behind'. (Meanwhile, my short, fat, tattooed biker buddy is getting laid by younger chicks left and right.)

Even if there were 4 men to every woman, shouldn't Mr. Perfect still be in demand, while the 'losers' struggle to find women?

So, I won't say there is an imbalance, and I definitely agree that dating is easier in Russia, but it's not a sheer issue of numbers. It all depends on who you are and where you look.

*ie: is a wuss

[Eduard]

Why I don't buy these more men than women stories...

Why is it always the 'handsome lawyer from Harvard with a passion for social causes*' that is 'left behind'. (Meanwhile, my short, fat, tattooed biker buddy is getting laid by younger chicks left and right.)

Even if there were 4 men to every woman, shouldn't Mr. Perfect still be in demand, while the 'losers' struggle to find women?

So, I won't say there is an imbalance, and I definitely agree that dating is easier in Russia, but it's not a sheer issue of numbers. It all depends on who you are and where you look.

*ie: is a wuss

Jooky, we usually agree on most things but this one I'd have to strongly disagree with you on. Any one who knows me personally will tell you that I have no problems talking to women and always had relationships with beautiful women in my life. I wish you'd try living here, in Tampa Bay for a couple of years and then I'd like to see what you think. I bet you'd change your opinion. If the ratio of single women to men is 9 women to 10 men, that's a 100 men for every thousand who have no options to find a suitable woman locally, unless they make significant compromises like dating BBWs or women who are older than them.

[TwoBitBandit]

I wish you'd try living here, in Tampa Bay for a couple of years and then I'd like to see what you think. I bet you'd change your opinion. If the ratio of single women to men is 9 women to 10 men, that's a 100 men for every thousand who have no options to find a suitable woman locally, unless they make significant compromises like dating BBWs or women who are older than them.

Lol, that's a verifiable paradise compared to Silicon Valley!

[Eduard]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11493157

This article is about shortage of men in Latvia but IMO most of it applies to the situation in Russia and Ukraine, possibly even more so.

[vwrw]

Why I don't buy these more men than women stories...

Why is it always the 'handsome lawyer from Harvard with a passion for social causes*' that is 'left behind'. (Meanwhile, my short, fat, tattooed biker buddy is getting laid by younger chicks left and right.)

Even if there were 4 men to every woman, shouldn't Mr. Perfect still be in demand, while the 'losers' struggle to find women?

So, I won't say there is an imbalance, and I definitely agree that dating is easier in Russia, but it's not a sheer issue of numbers. It all depends on who you are and where you look.

*ie: is a wuss

Mr Perfect is likely to be in demand no matter what the ratio of men to women is. However, the definition of what constitutes Mr Perfect changes as the ability of women to provide for themselves and their offspring changes. When women can provide for themselves and their offspring, they tend to have such a combination of requirements for Mr Perfect that even a talented guy who toils all his life to become a super being hardly will be able to satisfy all the requirements. Conversely, when women cannot provide all the desired conveniences for themselves and their offspring, they can discern Mr Perfect even in  good-for-nothing creatures.  Since the majority of FSU women live in an environment  that make them feeling less capable of independently providing for themselves and their offspring, it is easier to satisfy their requirements for  Mr Perfect than American women’ requirements. 

According my anthropology textbook, the only reliable predictor of females’ reluctance to form bonds with males in the world of primates is females’ ability to provide for themselves and their offspring. Based on this fact, I believe American men feel a shortage of women not because there are fewer women than men but because of American women acting as if they are unavailable since they feel little hope that men around them can qualify as Mr Perfect.

[Gator]

I wish you'd try living here, in Tampa Bay for a couple of years and then I'd like to see what you think. I bet you'd change your opinion. If the ratio of single women to men is 9 women to 10 men, that's a 100 men for every thousand who have no options to find a suitable woman locally....

Women in Tampa say the same.

It is neither difficult nor easy to find attractive women in Tampa.  It takes some work, yet there are many women.  My problem is that the the relationships never progressed to the next level, something I was seeking.  Frankly, I felt bored in most cases.

[Eduard]

Women in Tampa say the same.

It is neither difficult nor easy to find attractive women in Tampa.  It takes some work, yet there are many women.  My problem is that the the relationships never progressed to the next level, something I was seeking.  Frankly, I felt bored in most cases.

well, since you have a few years on me, maybe you were looking for women who were in their 40s or early 50s? In that case, sure I'd agree with you that there are choices here. When I was single at 43 here, I was looking for women 25 to 38 who wanted family and to have kids. That was very frustrating. The only ones in this age range, who were looking for the same, were either obese, unattractive or/and had 2 or 3 kids from previous relationships. In contrast I had pretty much unlimited choice of attractive, in shape women in Russia who wanted family in my age range.

[BC]

Eduard,

Would it be indiscreet to ask how old your wife was when you met?

I was also 43 when I met my wife.  IIRC MIL was 49.

Bottom line?

[Eduard]

Eduard,

Would it be indiscreet to ask how old your wife was when you met?

I was also 43 when I met my wife.  IIRC MIL was 49.

Bottom line?

No BC, it's quite allright to ask. She was 24. She will be turning 31 in a few days and I am 50 now (although it's hard to believe...) 

[BC]

Ed,

Striking similarity.. I'm 50 and wife 32

Cradle robbing must be a passion.

Forget justifying men vs women ratios or age differences or traditional values..

It's all 'because I can'.

[Eduard]

Forget justifying men vs women ratios or age differences or traditional values..

why? It is the reality.

[BC]

BS Eduard, and I'm calling it.

In the beginning it's all about a young firm hottie that all of a sudden gets in your face offering that last chance to prove your fertility and drive you nuts.

Come on Eddie.. admit it - I do.

[Misha]

BS Eduard, and I'm calling it.

In the beginning it's all about a young firm hottie that all of a sudden gets in your face offering that last chance to prove your fertility and drive you nuts.

Come on Eddie.. admit it - I do.

Yes, but such women are easier to find in the FSU 

[GQBlues]

"There's no suitable women to date for us US men...yada, yada, yada"

 

[Gator]

BC and Eddie, you crack me up.
 

well, since you have a few years on me, maybe you were looking for women who were in their 40s or early 50s? In that case, sure I'd agree with you that there are choices here.

Why would there be ample choices within one age group and not another?  I can not think of one valid reason.  I had trouble dating in high school and my freshman year, but then "something" happened and I had plenty of dates even though I looked the same.  That "something" was me and my maturity, confidence and awareness.

When I was single at 43 here, I was looking for women 25 to 38 who wanted family and to have kids. That was very frustrating. The only ones in this age range, who were looking for the same, were either obese, unattractive or/and had 2 or 3 kids from previous relationships.

I recall that a couple of women were complaining about a blue-eyed Russian pervert bothering their daughters.  Was that you?   

I was lucky to have dated dated two women in the middle of your range, but it was ten years ago.  I really liked one woman.  She had an incredibly beautiful face, decent body, musical talent (won the local American Idol), personality and intelligence (graduated with honors).  Smoked weed every day, however.  I still remember how our calls would be  interrupted every minute or so by the gurgling sound of her huge bong.

Alas, she dumped me after 4 months, complaining I was too old and did not want to father babies.  Valid reasons.

In contrast I had pretty much unlimited choice of attractive, in shape women in Russia who wanted family in my age range.

Now you and I can agree.  I would say the choice was 20x larger than what was attractive and interesting in Tampa.  But Tampa was not void of women.  The issue remains of how many of these unlimited numbers of RW were sincerely interested in me and how many were  wifey material.  Who cares; I was not bored! 

[Misha]

"There's no suitable women to date for us US men...yada, yada, yada"

 

Yet, you went to Russia and married a woman from Russia  :evil:

[GQBlues]

Yet, you went to Russia and married a woman from Russia  :evil:

Yes, but unlike you, I never once said it was because there's no suitable women in my neck of the woods...or more specifically, no suitable women willing to date me.. 

[Misha]

Yes, but unlike you, I never once said it was because there's no suitable women in my neck of the woods...or more specifically, no suitable women willing to date me.. 

I will have to apologize for my cynicism, but I always take the accounts of men who claim they can date so many women locally yet still go to Russia to marry very implausible