Why do u look for a wife abroad?

[Goldtop]

Sure there are all sorts of reasons we do what we do. And those you mentioned are true. But I would like to make another point. I don't want this to sound cocky because I am not. But I feel we have equity in our relationship. I am no more impressed with her (looks, personality ect) than she is with me. If it were not that way I would not want to marry her.

More power too you Goldtop.   I have some gals I write to where we have equity in our looks and personality but those never seem to be the ones I want to marry.   I think a lot of us would be a lot less interested if we couldn't get something there we can't have here.[/quote]Turbo - my N is 10 years younger. She is 40 but looks like early 30s. I would say just on looks alone she is an improvement over many AW I've dated but not all. Where she beats them all is personality. And our personalities match perfectly. Even though she's no youngster she's going to keep me young with her attitude. I was quite surprised to meet such a happy go lucky personality in Russia.

[BC]

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And now we know the REAL reason we look to the FSU for our ladies.

       
[color="black"][size="3"]comeon.. be honest.. young and sexy is really what those of our age cannot get at home.. [/size][/color]
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[Zhena]

And now we know the REAL reason we look to the FSU for our ladies.

       
comeon.. be honest.. young and sexy is really what those of our age cannot get at home..
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yes,cant? never?

Here,alot of such marriages,really. Some people blame it,some tolerant,some ignorant. Some understand . But you wont surprise anyone  by such marriage.

[BC]

a fiancee,

I know such is not an impossibility in the western world but maybe less acceptable than elsewhere.

In the west most nice young girls are going to find nice young men to marry. Sure economics can help tip the scale in the west but most of the guys interested in FSU women do not really have the 'wealth' that would interest and impress a young hot western woman.. even those without 'feminazi' traits.

It's all really relative.. you get more 'bang for the buck' in FSU.. at least temporarily.

[Zhena]

Dont know-I always was bored by the guys of my age...Really.The Girls always growing up quicker:)

Well then another question-how your environment will accept your younger wife if that is not acceptable there? Will laugh behind your back?

[catzenmouse]

[user=743]a fiancee[/user] wrote:

Dont know-I always was bored by the guys of my age...Really.The Girls always growing up quicker:)

Well then another question-how your environment will accept your younger wife if that is not acceptable there? Will laugh behind your back?

Some probably will but I think the majority will be jealous. The guys because of what you have and the girls because of how good she looks.

If they are your friends then they will accept her and you if they do not then they are not your friends. Family can be another matter for some. No problem with my family as the only ones who matter to me have been fully supportive. The other ones I don't bother with anyway so I don't really care what they think.

Ken

[Zhena]

Absolutely agree with you,Ken. I dont care what others think about me. Main thing that I am happy and my sweetheart is happy. And true that the firends will accept you in any case-for example I dont care with whom (I mean age) my friend is. Its her life and her choice.

[BC]

a fiancee,

I find that the 'optics' of a couple together generally rules social acceptability with a wide age difference.  Have noticed no laughing behind us here.. a few whistles maybe.. but that's southern Italy..

[Turboguy]

[user=743]a fiancee[/user] wrote:

Well then another question-how your environment will accept your younger wife if that is not acceptable there? Will laugh behind your back?

If I end up with a gal that is younger, prettier, sexier and far nicer than guys who look for women in the USA they can laugh all they want.   I could not care less.  It is more important to worry about your own happiness than to loose any sleep worrying about what someone else might think.

[Goldtop]

I see we've reduced the issue to sex and money - nice. The human spirit is alive and well. If we put this on a bumper sticker it would be - He who dies with the most toys wins! The only problem is people grow old and we become board with toys eventually.

[BC]

Bored?.. with a RW in the house?.. I dream of being bored for a day..

[Zhena]

I see we've reduced the issue to sex and money - nice. The human spirit is alive and well. If we put this on a bumper sticker it would be - He who dies with the most toys wins! The only problem is people grow old and we become board with toys eventually.

Why toys? If a girl is younger,that doesnt matter,that shes stupid and boring. She can be very interesting person with many common interests with you.

[Goldtop]

[user=743]a fiancee[/user] wrote:

I see we've reduced the issue to sex and money - nice. The human spirit is alive and well. If we put this on a bumper sticker it would be - He who dies with the most toys wins! The only problem is people grow old and we become board with toys eventually.

Why toys? If a girl is younger,that doesnt matter,that shes stupid and boring. She can be very interesting person with many common interests with you.

Yes I agree. I just meant that reducing the motivation down to sex and money doesn't account for the things you mentioned - common interests and I would add values and goals. I don't know about everyone else but I couldn't be married to someone whose values and goals were very different from my own.

[Rim]

The only problem is people grow old and we become board with toys eventually.

In my opinion, until people learn this lesson they are doing themselves and their future partner a disservice by getting married.

At some people you're going to be left with the person inside the shell and if the pretty shell is all that you were in the relationship for, then it'll then be time to go shell hunting again.

[TigerPaws]

Well then another question-how your environment will accept your younger wife if that is not acceptable there? Will laugh behind your back?

[color="red"]If I end up with a gal that is younger, prettier, sexier and far nicer than guys who look for women in the USA they can laugh all they want.   I could not care less.  It is more important to worry about your own happiness than to loose any sleep worrying about what someone else might think.[/color]

[color="blue"][size="4"]There is a great deal of truth in Turbo's statement.

 As for pretty girls, boats, airplanes and other such "boy toys" so what, if you can not afford the "toys" that is your problem (not you Turbo) not the person who has the "toys".

 The saying is "He who dies with the most toys wins", I say what does it matter enjoy whatever you have or are able to aquire now because when you are gone it will not matter.
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[Goldtop]

Okay but the issue is not the toys - it's what do you want your life to be about.

[TigerPaws]

Okay but the issue is not the toys - it's what do you want your life to be about.

[color="blue"][size="4"]What? Who the Hell cares, if you want to be a do gooder great as for me it is wine, women and song. (Ok just a little Rum, one great lady and well I like to listen to music). [/size][/color]

[Goldtop]

Not me - you have my permission to do whatever you want.

PS Tiger no offense meant, I haven't been a do gooder too long. My nickname in the frat was Wild Bill and there was a good reason for that.

[TigerPaws]

[color="blue"][size="4"]Goldtop,

 No problem, I guess it is a personal issue I have with do gooder's who think, believe and want others to act in a certain way. I have had far too many pounding on my door looking for money over the years and I am tired of hearing "you have so much and others have so little".
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[Turboguy]

I am not pointing this statement at anyone but I think if someone thinks an FSU woman is a "TOY" or the issue is sex and money they need to do some serious re-evaluating of their thinking. 

I think most of us are looking for a serious relationship that brings us happiness and fullfillment.   Yes, if you have some money it helps and may get you a wider selection of choices.  Yes sex can be a very satisfying part of a realtionship.  I just really don't think most of us are looking for eye candy or to have our sexual fantacys fulfilled,  I think we are looking for happiness.

[catzenmouse]

I am not pointing this statement at anyone but I think if someone thinks an FSU woman is a "TOY" or the issue is sex and money they need to do some serious re-evaluating of their thinking. 

I think most of us are looking for a serious relationship that brings us happiness and fullfillment.   Yes, if you have some money it helps and may get you a wider selection of choices.  Yes sex can be a very satisfying part of a realtionship.  I just really don't think most of us are looking for eye candy or to have our sexual fantacys fulfilled,  I think we are looking for happiness.

Well said Turbo! An FSU woman is anything but a toy. They are very strong women. Stong will and strong opinions and they do not have the issue with trying to find a PC way to tell you what they think or feel. Along with this they have some very wonderful traits that are extremely attractive to the WM. The beauty, grace, charm, and the fullfilling love they have and give is more than enough to satisfy any man.

Ken

[Son of Clyde]

Not to be rude, but the "U" instead of "you" is annoying. When you communicate, the goal is for the other person to receive your message, not "write in the way that is comfortable for me". 

I want to clarify this and I think I am accurate. Since mobile phones are very popular in FSU, people have developed an abbreviated way of speaking in order to send sms messages. This is also true in ICQ and other chats. It is easier to type a quick response. Most people will learn to adjust to this. I 2 can understand ur frustration cos it took me time 2 adjust 2 this also. Do u c?

There is no rule book to say American men cannot look to the FSU to find a wife. Look at the guys who look to the Phillipines and Asia to find a wife. Many guys in the military brought Vietnamese women home in the 1960's, I have a close friend who did.

If you happen to fall in love with someone I don't care if you have to travel to the moon to meet her. A guy will follow his heart.

[LatinSwede]

Why?  Well, because I hate all American women, and think they are evil.  Just kidding.  It's not the easiest to explain.  I come from a culturally mixed background.  A good deal of my growing up was in Germany and Holland.  I'm not exactly the ideal apple pie and baseball American, nor do I care to be. If I wanted to I could have settled for Ms Hometown USA years ago.  The problem is I really don't click very well with American females for cultural reasons.  Even if I meet and American woman that looks beautiful, I find her just too bland.  It's like I can't really give myself to somebody that doesn't even have a real culture.  Another factor, is I always prefered European women. It was like I was getting more than just a pretty face.  I actually made an American girl cry because I told her point blank, I want a European.  I always knew I'd be with a European, but I didn't think it would be Eastern Europe.  Ukraine and Russia were like a lucky accident.  At the time I was interested in meeting women from Western Europe.  5 years ago I really liked Dutch women.  Infact my first kiss was with a Dutch girl in Holland.  At one time I was engaged to a pretty German, but I sort of ran away from her.  She was a total cyka!  I figured that my special someone would probably come from The Netherlands, Belguim, Scandinavia (Dad's side of the family), or even the UK.  There was once a time when I found the voice of a British woman seductive.  Then fate took a hard left turn.  Now I'm marrying an Odessa lady.

My love isn't the first East European I met.  There was one from Kaliningrad, and 2 in Odessa before I met the one.  Believe me when I tell you I don't look at all E.Euro women with rose colored glasses.  The Russian one seemed cold, and indifferent.  The second one was a bit mean, and dissapeared 2 weeks before I came to Odessa.  The one after her was absolutley beautiful, but I found out she was makingfun of me, and puttng me down me behind my back.  In a nut shell she just wanted me to be her sugardaddy.  So I quietly dissapeared from her life, and didn't return phone calls.  I don't let American women step on me, and I certainly won't put up it on the other side of the ocean.  Over here, I've abruptly hung up the phone on women.  Then I met Yana.  She's a very warm hearted person.  I've gotten to know her family,  my in laws to be.  Even people in her community told me she is a very good person.

[Zhena]

  She was a total cyka!

What?..

[LatinSwede]

[user=743]a fiancee[/user] wrote:

  She was a total cyka!

What?..

 Yeah, that was my German ex girlfriend.  She was very critical.  Everything I said was stupid, and I couldn't do anything right.  I didn't like the idea, I'd come home from work to a woman that's going to tell me how pathetic I am.

I also know lot of other Russian words and phrases not to be said in polite company.  Some I learned on the street, and from a Russian swearbook.