Advice for The Natural

[ML]

Natural, there are many quite prudish people on this board; and they are mainly the men rather than the women.

A woman taking her shirt off for her man to view on Skype is nothing new and quite ordinary for normal men and women.  It is a regular event for my gals.  Her wanting to see you without your shirt is, however, not normal!!   

Actually, quite ordinary teenage girls are taking off their shirts all the time for their guys on Skype and video phone connections in USA, and I suppose in other countries also.

So everyone is OK with it except many of the 40-50 y.o. guys here.
 

[SFandEE]

It is a regular event for my gals. 

ML-- I guess I don't follow your situation close enough to know "your gals"  Please explain as appropriate for better understanding of your post.  Thanks.


I do not find this as TMI or inappropriate--this is a subject that should be self-edited.  Nothing vulgar has been said--just controversial I guess.


I actually think this is interesting for understanding sincerity.  Some men might take this gesture as a sign of interest and sincerity.  Others might ask themselves--"If she does this for me, how easily has she/will she do this for others?  I also wonder if this is a thing with age since "sexting" is huge amongst younger women in USA and it would seem middle aged congressmen.  I do not know how it is seen by women as appropriate--they likely set the rules on this behavior and what it means.


So it is a subject that is relevant to RWD.

[Ade]

Or put it this way; if this woman becomes your wife, how do you think she would feel and react if she found out you were telling complete strangers on a public forum that you've been flashing your tits at each other?

And if she finds out before she becomes your wife, what are the chances that it'll reduce the probability that she ever will ...? 

[Muzh]

I'm sorry guys but if my wife flashes her tit to me while skyping the only people who will know will be her, me and god.

[Gator]

Usually, Russian women don't like to talk about sex  to strangers. Be careful.

True, it was not "usual."  However, Skype seems to be changing this.   "Be careful?!"  Not moreso than with other women.  I believe the better advice is "Enjoy."
 
I agree to be careful how you approach this subject with women whom you have not met.  Some RW would be offended and think you vulgar.  Others may eagerly participate with the right man who knows what to do.
 

It is a regular event for my gals. 

 
Yes, but you have previously met them and been intimate. 
 

Her wanting to see you without your shirt is, however, not normal!!   

Disagree.  The times they are a changing.  And they want more than the shirt removed.  To be honest,  "they" is incorrect.  It was just one RW.  That is it - no more information other than we never met.
 

[ML]

Yes, but you have previously met them and been intimate. 

But Natural is fewer time zones away.
Thus he can progress faster. 

[Gylden]

Better to avoid manipulating the results. Just be yourself and if things don't work out enjoy the fact that you avoided something that you would have probably regretted later on.
 

[The Natural]

It seems my original point was lost in the debate whether or not to offer information that some feel are too private and others feel are just fine. What I wanted to get across was the difference in attitude between two women from Crimea as to whether or not I should show something as shocking as my chest. It's not really a big deal, just found it interesting.
 
I will however, refrain from making more personal remarks out of respect for the woman in question and because it can, and will be, misunderstood by some.
 
And now the weather forecast for Crimea in late July..... hot and sunny 

[Jumper]

I think i advised this very early in your thread?
but by all means don't hesitate to visit Crimea.
(regardless whether you have  someome to meet)
 
It's truly a beautiful area, and quite a bit to see and do.
 
 

[The Natural]

I think i advised this very early in your thread?
but by all means don't hesitate to visit Crimea.
(regardless whether you have  someome to meet)
 
It's truly a beautiful area, and quite a bit to see and do.

Well AJ, you know what they say; in one ear and out the other 
 
I won't procrastinate, tickets are bought and laying on the kitchen window post. And I have someone to meet. She will meet me in Simferopol and we will go off for a one-week stay in a holiday resort by the Black Sea before going to her apartment in a city, also by the Black Sea.
 
I'm very excited to see Crimea and especially to see her. I have full faith we will have a wonderful 3 weeks together.

[Jumper]

A few photos from Crimea
 



 

[Jumper]

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[Jumper]

If you date UW, you'll need a big tree to beat your head on.
trust me , it will come in handy 
(dave noticed all the dents,likely put there by UM,  proceeding my own)

yalta's harbour at night.
there is a beautiful walkway, with your usual tourist attractions, sidewalk muscians, artists, shops, cafe's ..
 

[The Natural]

Great photos AJ, thanks a lot. Is it you on the photos?
 
Have you been to Koktebel? My intel is that it's between Fedosija and Sudak. My gal has booked us a very nice apartment there. It's a town of only 2800 inhabitants but apparently a holiday resort and the 4 apartments in our building are usually rented out to Moscowites. It's a 5-7 minute walk to the beach 

[Jumper]

The beaches in Yalta are rock/pebbles..
other beaches in Crimea range from this to sand as well.
You can take your shirt off at the beach but not in skype,
 that's unwritten commandment number 11.
you really should have known 



 

[The Natural]

You can take your shirt off at the beach but not in skype,
 that's unwritten commandment number 11.
you really should have known 

Yes, and isn't that strange? It's just one of the senseless beliefs I will never be able to understand. According to some guys it seems, guys should rather go to the beach wearing a bra or something, hehe. Not me, I'm going topless and just risk all the ugly stares 

[Jumper]

ahh well I do keep mine on in skype
 
but really dont care or mind if others prefer blenchki or borscht..
shirts or no shirts.
 
 
yes, the photos are me and the UW i went to visit.
 
 
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At the top of the mountain in the earlier photos..

is an area of small tent maerkets, selling fruite,nuts some locakl wine and beers, and of course siouveniers.
also a few small cafe's etc.
 
you can ride horses on the high platue,
or hike up to the mountains summit and tie your ribbon there.

 
There is a fir tree at the base to tie your ribbon if you do not reach the summit
 
If there I advis to try the rustic outdoor cafe right on the cliffs edge, some  tables and chairs cut from logs,  under large fir trees, less than a meter from the edge for a spectacular view overlloking the palace far below, and the black sea.
Excellent shashlik and green borscht.
 
 
You might have decent appetite after a hike in the park.. 
 

[Jumper]

for clarification:
 
This is the mountian , photo taken from the Palace.

 
This is not taken from the cafe mentioned, I cant find those
but it is very near the cafe and same basic view, about a  100 meters to the west.

[The Natural]

Are all these photos from Yalta, AJ?

[Jumper]

Some are in Yalta proper, and it's beaches,and promeanade.
 
The others are nearby Alupka, and the Palace Voronzov there.
(and mountian)
   Also the palaces garden, which is actually a very large natural park.   and of course photos of the Swallows Nest  castle, the face of Yalta, and the famous conference.     Where you are headed is further east along the Crimean coastline,  and yes apparently east of Sudak.. The distance to Yalta , and further west (15 -20 minutes to Alupka from yalta)  wouldnt be that far.. and the drive likely very winding and scenic if you decided to venture out.  Yalta is quite touristy, and many cruise ships etc coming in there.. but i still really liked it.   I really enjoyed Alupka, the palace Voronzov, its history, the park , and the mountian nearby with things to do.     Crimea has a great and ancient history, very hard to see it all in a few weeks! Greek influence and ruins,   many other cultures collided there over time.Scynthians, ottoman empire,   huns, Mongols, tartar, Kievan Rus. I would love to go back and explore there  again..     

[Muzh]

AJ, you were in Crimea and wearing Speedos? 

[Jumper]

Nope, have never worn speedo's in Crimea or anywhere else.
 
 I'm originally a SoCal surfer/sk8ter  kid..
who eventually morphed into motocross.
 So speedo certainly isn't a style you'd likely find me in.
 
The photo on the jet ski or beach ,
is typical long loose fitting board style shorts?
 
 
 If I was a competitive  swimmer , or european, that might be different..and a speedio of course would be quite normal, and common.
 
I'm assuming you are looking at the  photo on top of the mountian with the tripiod marking the summit?
 
That particular shot is  random Ukrianian people ,or tourist.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

[pitbull]

Nope, have never worn speedo's in Crimea or anywhere else.
 
 I'm originally a SoCal surfer/sk8ter  kid..
who eventually morphed into motocross.
 So speedo certainly isn't a style you'd likely find me in.
 
The photo on the jet ski or beach ,
is typical long loose fitting board style shorts?
 
 
 If I was a competitive  swimmer , or european, that might be different..and a speedio of course would be quite normal, and common.
 
I'm assuming you are looking at the  photo on top of the mountian with the tripiod marking the summit?
 
That particular shot is  random Ukrianian people ,or tourist.

AJ,
 
Did anyone ever comment that you look like Tom Cruise?
 
I suspect you are the only guy on RWD who can pull off speedo's anyway

[Aloe]

AJ, you were in Crimea and wearing Speedos? 

Dam you, made me scroll up and double check for AJ in a speedo, but there isn't any 

[Jumper]

Aloe and Pitbull,
 Thanks for making an old guy (according to my teenage son) feel better before Fathers Day.    
 
 yes, I have heard the Tom C reference a few times before..       
we are both short , with big noses...