What is your wifes profession

[START2]

Valentyna would like to work. She's a professor in engineering with gas and oil pipeline being her specialty. She can design all that is needed for commercial or residential buildings. I also came to find out she knows how to do survey but at this time doesn't know how to do the GPS applications they use here. Still a helluva second craft. All she needs is a work permit. She tells me that sometimes she feels like she is a burden. She wants to pull her own weight. She's worked all her life and these past 6 months have been difficult for her .

[LarsXYZ]

a fiancee:

The guys who are married-what your wives do? Whats their original professions and do they work in your country

My wife Nataliya, is from Odessa like you. She had an university degree back from ukraine. She is now doing study for MBA here in denmark because of her interest in that field.

TigerPaws:

Hum.... My lady is a friend, lover, wife, mother to our daughter, second in command of our boat and happy. What else is needed.

Hmm, interesting. Why second in command? Why not equal partners?

TigerPaws:

If you can not afford to have either parent stay at home with your child or at the very least a grandmother stay full time then do not have a child, it is that simple.

If your country don't provide financial help for child care etc, that would then affect the age-balance of population during the next 30 years, so the percentage of workingforce would decrease.

Regards Lars

[Jet]

Hmm, interesting. Why second in command? Why not equal partners?

 

Because politically correct or not, a vessel can only have ONE captain!

[TigerPaws]

If you can not afford to have either parent stay at home with your child or at the very least a grandmother stay full time then do not have a child, it is that simple.

If your country don't provide financial help for child care etc [color="red"][size="4"]NO! And most Americans would not support the TAXES to have such support.[/size][/color], that would then affect the age-balance of population during the next 30 years, so the percentage of workingforce would decrease.

Regards Lars
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[Captmonk1]

My wife just got a job doing design/autocad with an Architectural firm. It's similar to what she was doing in Russia. So she was at home roughly 7 1/2 months. I am very proud of her! She is already wanting something more. Go figure!

I think she is an exception not the rule. It seems like most of the girls are at home for over a year before the first job.

Brad

[BillyB]

Welcome Brad!

It's good to see an old face. You and Katerina are good examples of how to make a marriage work. You both seem to have the right attitude towards life.

Billy

[jb]

Just in case anyone missed it in a previous incarnation, my wife is a college professor.  Math and science department at the local university, and also now the head of the Science Department at the Catholic Liberal Arts Collage here in Corpus Christi.

She loves her job(s).

[sakura1]

It seems that the US is far behind Europe regarding support of the family. European governments like the UK and Belgium think its important to support people who have children, so they pay for childcare if the mother wants to work. This means that more women have more children. They also support the woman if she wants to stay at home to become a full-time mum, whether she is married or not.

In countries like Italy where the government doesn`t help working mothers, the fertility rate has dropped to 1.4 percent. Basically the Italian government won`t support working mothers, so what has happened has suprised everyone because Italian women are choosing their job over having children.

Like Leslie said, it all boils down to what the women want. Becoming a housewife is an admirable job and many women enjoy it and are good at it. Other women find its just not for them. While looking after children is extremely rewarding, a different kind of satisfaction and adrenaline comes from clinching a deal, completing a contract or a project at work.

[Bruno]

[user=992]sakura1[/user] wrote:

It seems that the US is far behind Europe regarding support of the family. European governments like the UK and Belgium think its important to support people who have children, so they pay for childcare if the mother wants to work. This means that more women have more children. They also support the woman if she wants to stay at home to become a full-time mum, whether she is married or not.

I am from Belgium :? ...

The situation is not really like your wrote... Gouverment wish more children in Belgium and because of this, they make it a little more easy for women ( or men ) with children...

Childcare is enough low for first child... around 125 euro month for a baby... growing with age of child... a second child bring more and 3 is like the "jackpot"... birth premies is around 3500 euro... possibility to work part time with the rest of time pay by state ( only if have work minimum one year full time before )...

About be full time moum, it is not really a good system... first year, 80% of the last income... second year, 60% of the last income... after, the minimex ( can be around 300 euro month if man is working )... full-time mum is only good if the women is alone with child...

But again, the goal is not the confort of women or child... in 50 year, we will have one working people for 3 retired one if we keep the actual birthrate... how to pay pension ? So, two solution : try to raise the birth rate or allow immigration...

[BillyB]

I agree with Bruno. I have a friend from Germany who says the government provides tax breaks and benefits for people who want to have children. It sounds as if the government wants to support people to have a family children when if fact the whole environment and way of thinking may not encourage people to reproduce. Sounds to me there is a problem and abortion could be in abundunce as people become more and more independent and not willing to support a child themselves. Take a look here, the European Union is ranked 201 and Germany is second to last in reproduction.

http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2054rank.html

[sakura1]

Ah, I see. I mainly know about the UK, but from what I read here about Belgium, I thought it was similar, because on the whole European countries lean towards socialism. I think the main reason the UK government helps women is to keep the population high, but it actually ends up having some good results. Pregnant women don`t need to have abortions because they can be guaranteed a house (if they don`t have one already) and lots of financial support with the baby. SOme women do get pregnant just to leave home and get some independance in their new council house, and you can say they are milking the system but they are in the minority.  MArried women usually don`t need a house given to them by the government but they can still be guaranteed financial support (family allowance, help with childcare etc) whether they decide to work or not.

Off topic, but I am kind of anti-abortion so I think its fantastic that the British government gives women a real choice whether to have a baby or not. I think that if they were doomed to be poverty stricken by having a child, many would end up getting rid of the baby instead of keeping it. Also, they can have a real choice about whether they want to work or stay at home, instead of depending on the income of their husband.

The government understands that all of these things help the birthrate.

[Jet]

 A couple of the things that she needs to know is that for all intents and purposes she cannot work for approximately the first year and that most if not all of her education will be meaningless here. She will either have to start from scratch and retrain herself in the system here or take a low level job to get into the workforce while she keeps looking or taking classes.

 {All thoughts expressed here are the opinion of the author and are in no way the absolute in any specific situation}

Ken

One field where the above does not seem to be true is Teachers of Mathmatics/Science/Music. As these specific areas are "absolute" worldwide, degrees transfer quite easily. While she may not break the bank paycheck wise, she can knock down a very respectable middle class salary once the language barrier is overcome.

I would agree with the 1 year thing, it seems reasonable and common. My wife studied language for her first year here and has been teaching H.S. math for the past two. She loves her job and is well respected. Niko has been in school "full time" the past two years so it works out well for us. He attends an academic enrichment program after school and I pick him up on my way home. It's also ideal that Mamma and son have virtually all the same days off (except for teacher "in-service" days - 1 per quarter - when he goes to work with me for the day).

To back up what Bruno, Leslie and others have stated, she works because she wants to. It was her choice and she made it. I think Lil would go completely insane if I left her home alone all day everyday, she enjoys the mental challenge working provides her, as well as contributing to our future in some small way.

[jb]

Jet, great post, as usual.

My wife's Russian diploma was evaluated by a nationally recognized accreditation service as a Masters (MS) in physics with a minor in math.  She was immediately employed at the local college, the college administrator eagerly pursued her to teach math and science.  Jet is also correct, the pay for teachers is definately lower middle class, her income is only in the mid $30's for a 9 months per year semister schedule. However, she loves teaching and would be climbing the walls if left to sit around the house day after day.

[PeeWee]

Along these same lines - I am trying to find info on how a doctor in Ukraine would go about becoming a doctor in the USA.  I have seen references to this info in other places on the internet but I am having no luck in finding any of it now.  Thanks.

I called the AMA in Chicago. They had all kinds of accurate information for me.

 

Peewee

[PeeWee]

One more thing about doctors. I was told by the lad that I spoke to at the American Medical Association that 25% of the doctors now practicing in the US are of foreign origin. He told me to send them my lady's diploma and licences and they would be willing to give us direction and advice. Also, my next door neighbor is a practicing doctor for Indonesia and the guy across the street from me is a practicing doctor from Hong Kong. It seems to me that, while it might be difficult, that for a FSU doctor it is very possible to transfer skill and establish a practice. Not easy to do but if it were easy to do then we would have a glut of doctors, wouldn't we?

Peewee

[rose]

I can promise you: she'll have to take 3 tests. It'll take usually at least 3 years. Ask your neighbors about books for the tests (for 1st test it should be 5 books at least)

[PeeWee]

I can promise you: she'll have to take 3 tests. It'll take usually at least 3 years. Ask your neighbors about books for the tests (for 1st test it should be 5 books at least)

No, she will  have to take 4 tests. The 3 for the medical proficiency and my 1 test for wife proficiency.

 

Peewee  

[dfb]

My wife has both Bachelors and Masters Degrees in architecture from Minsk, Bachelors and Masters Degrees in concert Piano from different university in Minsk, and another set of Bachelors and Masters Degrees in Theology from a university in England.  When I met her, she was working as an architect for a Danish company, working out of Denmark, St. Petersburg, Moscow, and Minsk.  She loved her job and didn't want to give it up.


When she immigrated to the US on a K-1, she looked into the requirement for becoming professionally certified / licensed as an architect in the US and determined that it was not worth the effort.  She would basically need to start over with learning English units for measurements (i.e. lengths, mass, energy…), different structural codes and design criteria, and different laws and regulations.  After some soul searching, she decided that she was tired of being a student and wanted to try teaching the piano.  She has been in heaven since then, she enjoys what she is doing and her students love her.  She is brilliant at the piano and an outstanding teacher.  She would be successful and anything that she puts her heart into.

[PeeWee]

My wife has both Bachelors and Masters Degrees in architecture from Minsk, Bachelors and Masters Degrees in concert Piano from different university in Minsk, and another set of Bachelors and Masters Degrees in Theology from a university in England.  When I met her, she was working as an architect for a Danish company, working out of Denmark, St. Petersburg, Moscow, and Minsk.  She loved her job and didn't want to give it up.

 

When she immigrated to the US on a K-1, she looked into the requirement for becoming professionally certified / licensed as an architect in the US and determined that it was not worth the effort.  She would basically need to start over with learning English units for measurements (i.e. lengths, mass, energy…), different structural codes and design criteria, and different laws and regulations.  After some soul searching, she decided that she was tired of being a student and wanted to try teaching the piano.  She has been in heaven since then, she enjoys what she is doing and her students love her.  She is brilliant at the piano and an outstanding teacher.  She would be successful and anything that she puts her heart into.

I have a friend, Svetlana, who was an architectect in Ukraine. Came here on K-1, married, divorced, cleaned houses, went to CC to learn better English, then enrolled at ITT Tech in the CAD program and graduated after 2 years. It was all difficult for her but the entrance exam to get into ITT was the hardest, I think. I would meet with her on a Sunday before the tests and would help her understand how to solve story problems. She had the hardest time with them because she tought that everyword ment something. I told her to just look for the numbers and forget the story that surround them and she would be fine. She was fine... and she did fine and she got in.

 

Peewee

[Captmonk1]

My wife has both Bachelors and Masters Degrees in architecture from Minsk, Bachelors and Masters Degrees in concert Piano from different university in Minsk, and another set of Bachelors and Masters Degrees in Theology from a university in England.  When I met her, she was working as an architect for a Danish company, working out of Denmark, St. Petersburg, Moscow, and Minsk.  She loved her job and didn't want to give it up.

 

I think you can suffice it to say that your wife is not only smarter than you, she is smarter than all of us!! 

I bet she plays the piano great!

[PeeWee]

My wife has both Bachelors and Masters Degrees in architecture from Minsk, Bachelors and Masters Degrees in concert Piano from different university in Minsk, and another set of Bachelors and Masters Degrees in Theology from a university in England.  When I met her, she was working as an architect for a Danish company, working out of Denmark, St. Petersburg, Moscow, and Minsk.  She loved her job and didn't want to give it up.


When she immigrated to the US on a K-1, she looked into the requirement for becoming professionally certified / licensed as an architect in the US and determined that it was not worth the effort.  She would basically need to start over with learning English units for measurements (i.e. lengths, mass, energy…), different structural codes and design criteria, and different laws and regulations.  After some soul searching, she decided that she was tired of being a student and wanted to try teaching the piano.  She has been in heaven since then, she enjoys what she is doing and her students love her.  She is brilliant at the piano and an outstanding teacher.  She would be successful and anything that she puts her heart into.

So with all of that education and degrees is she too going to paint houses?

 

Peewee

[dostogirl]

I, like many others, got a degree in English from a small Russian state University. Plus an AA degree in accounting that I never used. I spent most of my professional carerr in education, have taught in different countries. Right now I work in an education field, but it's not teaching.

[groovlstk]

My wife began looking for a job less than a week ago. She had a great career as an interior designer in Moscow, but we anticipated a long wait because she's not yet fluent in English. A few weeks ago, I built her a website to showcase her portfolio to employers, and when that was done we cobbled together a resume for her. I was torn on whether to have her diplomas evaluated but ultimately decided to wait to see if it was needed, as I figured potential employers could evaluate her ability very quickly.

She sent out about 30 resumes last Weds. night, and by Thurs. already had her first interview scheduled. In addition, another firm phoned her and basically offered her a job over the phone, sight unseen, but it's located in the suburbs and she would be doing more managing than designing. (Side note: of course I tried to manage expectations by telling her again and again that she'd be lucky to land an interview in her first two weeks, that it would be a very slow process, etc. I got the business for being wrong, as expected )

Her first "real" interview was on Sat., with a newly opened branch of a growing furniture chain in NYC, similar to IKEA but a few rungs up the ladder in terms of quality. She accepted, and began working on Monday. Unfortunately we decided she should quit after her first day. All of the people who were hired along with her could not work legally in the US! One was here on a student visa, another came on a tourist visa and never went home, another was still waiting for her green card. Evidently, in NYC an employer needs to ask for nothing more than a SS card when hiring someone. How shameful. I couldn't help but conclude that any firm hiring illegals was doing it for a reason, either they paid less than scale or were asking their employees to work unreasonably long hours.

Thankfully, last night she had another call from a design firm in Manhattan. Again, on the spot she was offered a position as an interior designer, this time on a 3-month trial basis. The co. is much more reputable and well known, many of their clients are celebrities. Anyway, they told her that, with commissions, she can expect to pull in just shy of six figures, annually. I'm surprised that things happened so quickly, and of course she has to prove herself over the next three months, but knowing her I'm sure she'll succeed. I'm so proud of her I can't even find the proper words...

[Kuna]

Groov,

That's really wonderful to hear and while it will still be a big challenge for her you must be (and should be) incredibly proud!

Like you, they've got a good catch!   

Kuna

[Pacifer]

The guys who are married-what your wives do? Whats their original professions and do they work in your country,and if yes,what do they do? Thanks.

She used to be research biolog. Here she has mostly worked with children.