scammed by yeva4u

[GoodOlBoy]

His crime is that he wanted sex,....

If that is a crime all men are criminals 

 
 
More importantly....... is it a felony or a misdemeanor? 
 
GOB

[Misha]

You're not greedy.

First of all, 95% of Russians haven't a clue how to use the word "greedy".

You got that right The fact of the matter is that if you find the right woman, she will invariably value a man who is экономный (doesn't waste money frivolously).

[Leelou]

but i counted it out, is about 14000 euro

 

 

[Faux Pas]

If that is a crime all men are criminals 

And women too

[Doll]

You're not greedy.

First of all, 95% of Russians haven't a clue how to use the word "greedy". It's even worse than the way they try to talk about things being "pity". So, don't sweat ignorant people trying to label you when they don't know how to use a given word in the first place.

 

Easy! If this is ignorance, then what is the OP's English?

[LAman]

It amazes me how many members here continue to blame agencies, girls. sites for the scamming. At the heart of the trouble are the 'guys'....no one points a gun at them and forces anything. The OP here is a big reason for the many problems(he is not alone)....keep feeding the cash cow with no sense of reality, perception, understanding or common sense. I am in no way condoning what the girls in this agency did......but jeez, not one moment reading this thread did I ever feel the OP was ever serious about anything, just desparate to get any women to talk to him and only way was to spend money( again, not the first but one of many). His story I have read many times..........Did anyone read this thread and feel the OP was simply paying for entertainment and now is complaining he did not get what he paid for after 2 years? At some point, you go from feeling sorry for the guy, to saying, what the freakin hell were you thinking? This endeaver is not for everyone, surely not many, I just hope the OP really takes some time to think about his own personal life, his future romantic interests and gain a healthy dose of self confidence!!! 
 
I have question for the most experienced guys here..... How are the big companies/agencies still making plenty of money?

[bruttus]

It amazes me how many members here continue to blame agencies, girls. sites for the scamming. At the heart of the trouble are the 'guys'....no one points a gun at them and forces anything. The OP here is a big reason for the many problems(he is not alone)....keep feeding the cash cow with no sense of reality, perception, understanding or common sense. I am in no way condoning what the girls in this agency did......but jeez, not one moment reading this thread did I ever feel the OP was ever serious about anything, just desperate to get any women to talk to him and only way was to spend money( again, not the first but one of many). His story I have read many times..........Did anyone read this thread and feel the OP was simply paying for entertainment and now is complaining he did not get what he paid for after 2 years? At some point, you go from feeling sorry for the guy, to saying, what the freak in hell were you thinking? This endeavor is not for everyone, surely not many, I just hope the OP really takes some time to think about his own personal life, his future romantic interests and gain a healthy dose of self confidence!!! 
 
I have question for the most experienced guys here..... How are the big companies/agencies still making plenty of money?

you can blame me as a stupid naive moron, but i never expected something from these girls, and dreaming of a unrealistic fantasy, like a menage a trios or expecting it, is even for me a huge different
why you think, i have received some morals from mine grandmother, yes that's wright, i was raised by mine grandparents, totally different morals then generation after mine grandparents
to bad that these morals are apparently not from these world

and for the record, I'm not hopeless, i am 30y, i spend ed the first 5y of mine early twenty's as a soldier, i study for Cook when i was in highschool, and because of mine irregular hour es, i don't have the time to go out and meeting girls from mine country
and about that, i had mine share completely with local girls also, like i said, i am totally inexperience with girls, but even the local girls has taken advantage from me

so stupid am i with girls
and even to vasilisa, if you ever have the chance to knowing me, you should see what guy i am, not saying that you gonna like me, but you would see how easy i am to be taken advantage of, even knowing about all of this.
if i have to report every girl, who was in mine life, i was still busy with writting
but this experience, what i have been true by that fake agency and those ......., I'm sorry i can't write that they are girls/woman
also, i discovered, when i was there for the 3Th time for that other girl, that she worked there for the same agency as marina and elizaveta. something what i honestly did not expected, because on here profile, it said the name Irina, and here real name Poprygunya Strekoza, so i discovered also more things, that even that guy, who owns the agency's from those ....., put his own girlfriend in to communicate with me. every girl from the area Zaporozhye/Dnepropetrovsk, who was sending me letters or videochat, what i did not read or accepted, i found them all back as coworkers from that guy's agency. how i did that, well if Poprygunya Strekoza is stupid enough to put the title coworker under they re names, including marina sherbak, elizaveta oyarand and that guy who owns the agency, then i know more then enough  

[Doll]

it said the name Irina, and here real name Poprygunya Strekoza

[ghost of moon goddess]

FYI:
Poprygunya Strekoza ( the carefree dragonfly) is a female character of "the Dragonfly and the Ant" fable by Krylov – the Russian version of  La Fontaine's "La Cigale et la fourmi" or Aesop's "the Grasshopper and the Ant"

[bruttus]

FYI:
Poprygunya Strekoza ( the carefree dragonfly) is a female character of "the Dragonfly and the Ant" fable by Krylov – the Russian version of  La Fontaine's "La Cigale et la fourmi" or Aesop's "the Grasshopper and the Ant"

ha ok, ty, didn't knew that, was looking for transluations for it, but thought it was here name, i'm sorry for that

[ML]

i had mine share completely with local girls also, like i said, i am totally inexperience with girls, but even the local girls has taken advantage from me

Just to  be clear here . . . it seems you are using the wrong English word.

If you had your 'share of local girls'  . . . then I think you mean you are 'experienced' with girls . . . not 'inexperience' as you say.

So which is it;  experienced or inexperienced ?

[ML]

The OP here is a big reason for the many problems(he is not alone)....keep feeding the cash cow with no sense of reality, perception, understanding or common sense.

I said 'mostly' the same thing in NewJason's thread; but it didn't get many takers.

[ghost of moon goddess]

 



As opposed to the "party-girl" Dragonfly, the nickname holder works scams as hard as she can all summer long "to have some food stored away for the winter"

[Vasilisa]

ahahahaha
Honestly, Bruttus, after everything I've read about your adventures I don't understand how being that naive you earn all those thousands of euros you lose later. Are you a computer genius who has been sitting in is home office 99% of his life and never go out?!

I remember watching a TV show Nip and Tuck, one of the episodes was about a guy who was in coma for 20 years' time since he was a teenager, after the coma he looked like 40, but he had the maturity of a 18-20 yo and didn't understand anything in girls and modern culture at all, he had some money( I don't remember if he inherited something, but he had money), so very soon in a bar he met a scammer who asked him to pay for her new boobs 4D, so they came to the plastic surgeons together and it was obvious that the girl was just using the silly "boy."she looked like a partying Barbie girl and he looked like Forest Gump.

My advice is that you should visit a psychologyst and discuss all these things with him, then start dating locally.
Good luck.

[bruttus]

nope, i work in a bakery, but i never can tell when I'm free, on what hours i have to start, or when i have done, most of the time i work 10, 11 hours a day, 6 days a week
so sorry, that I'm to tired to go out and having fun with mine friends

[GQBlues]

Brutus,


PM Lakecreek and find out if there's any possibility you can form 'Team Dynamic Duo' and plan a trip to Ukarine.


If possibly, write Trip Report, too..


That will be nice.

[ghost of moon goddess]

Brutus,


PM Lakecreek and find out if there's any possibility you can form 'Team Dynamic Duo' and plan a trip to Ukarine.


If possibly, write Trip Report, too..


That will be nice.

They are too "yung and easily freudened" to travel to Ukarine  

[LAman]

you can blame me as a stupid naive moron, but i never expected something from these girls, and dreaming of a unrealistic fantasy, like a menage a trios or expecting it, is even for me a huge different
why you think, i have received some morals from mine grandmother, yes that's wright, i was raised by mine grandparents, totally different morals then generation after mine grandparents
to bad that these morals are apparently not from these world

and for the record, I'm not hopeless, i am 30y, i spend ed the first 5y of mine early twenty's as a soldier, i study for Cook when i was in highschool, and because of mine irregular hour es, i don't have the time to go out and meeting girls from mine country
and about that, i had mine share completely with local girls also, like i said, i am totally inexperience with girls, but even the local girls has taken advantage from me

so stupid am i with girls
and even to vasilisa, if you ever have the chance to knowing me, you should see what guy i am, not saying that you gonna like me, but you would see how easy i am to be taken advantage of, even knowing about all of this.
if i have to report every girl, who was in mine life, i was still busy with writting
but this experience, what i have been true by that fake agency and those ......., I'm sorry i can't write that they are girls/woman
also, i discovered, when i was there for the 3Th time for that other girl, that she worked there for the same agency as marina and elizaveta. something what i honestly did not expected, because on here profile, it said the name Irina, and here real name Poprygunya Strekoza, so i discovered also more things, that even that guy, who owns the agency's from those ....., put his own girlfriend in to communicate with me. every girl from the area Zaporozhye/Dnepropetrovsk, who was sending me letters or videochat, what i did not read or accepted, i found them all back as coworkers from that guy's agency. how i did that, well if Poprygunya Strekoza is stupid enough to put the title coworker under they re names, including marina sherbak, elizaveta oyarand and that guy who owns the agency, then i know more then enough

Please tell me where I said you are 'stupid'? That was your interpretation. I only spoke of what you and many other guys have done throwing money around and the problems caused.  What is that saying... fooled me once, shame on you, fooled me twice, shame on me. BTW, do you know how to say no?
I don't know it is as much a scam as you being used......just like the girls at home have used you.
This is one of my earliest experiences about girls as a young teenager, my older sister was seeing some greek guy for several months, they were out all the time at dinners , parties, shows, ect. when I didn't see this guy anymore I asked my sister what happened to the greek guy, she tells me, I don't see him anymore, I ask why? she says because he ran out of money!!!    That still resonates in my mind!!!

[noelscot]

It amazes me how many members here continue to blame agencies, girls. sites for the scamming. At the heart of the trouble are the 'guys'....no one points a gun at them and forces anything. The OP here is a big reason for the many problems(he is not alone)....keep feeding the cash cow with no sense of reality, perception, understanding or common sense. I am in no way condoning what the girls in this agency did......but jeez, not one moment reading this thread did I ever feel the OP was ever serious about anything, just desparate to get any women to talk to him and only way was to spend money( again, not the first but one of many). His story I have read many times..........Did anyone read this thread and feel the OP was simply paying for entertainment and now is complaining he did not get what he paid for after 2 years? At some point, you go from feeling sorry for the guy, to saying, what the freakin hell were you thinking? This endeaver is not for everyone, surely not many, I just hope the OP really takes some time to think about his own personal life, his future romantic interests and gain a healthy dose of self confidence!!! 
 
I have question for the most experienced guys here..... How are the big companies/agencies still making plenty of money?

Didn't the famous con man Yella Kid Weil say that it is easier to con a dishonest man than an honest man? In fact, a dishonest man is the perfect "mark." By no stretch of the imagination am I one of the most experienced guys here, but I'd wager that scams/agencies/etc. thrive upon people who lie to themselves and have money to waste.
 
As for the claims (made in other posts) that the OP is some sort of sex tourist, PUH-LEASE. He would have gotten plenty of sex (and a plethora of STDs) if he was ringing up prostitutes with that kind of money. He sure as hell would not have left with a giant case of blue balls, but maybe with some love bumps.
 
There's some sort of unhealthy paranoia that every guy going to a FSU country wanting a little peck on the cheek from a FSUW is a friggin' sex tourist. Now it is a crime to want some affection from a woman? LOL. I guess we should all just be queer, and everything will be copacetic? Sheesh.   

[Vasilisa]

 
As for the claims (made in other posts) that the OP is some sort of sex tourist, PUH-LEASE. He would have gotten plenty of sex (and a plethora of STDs) if he was ringing up prostitutes with that kind of money. He sure as hell would not have left with a giant case of blue balls, but maybe with some love bumps.
 

noelscot, you obviously didn't read the post full of articles about sex tourism in the world read it, please, all those people could have had sex in their own countries, so why does such a things as sex tourism exist then?! What makes men go to Brazil, Thailand, Ukraine to get sex?! They could have had it in Germany, USA, Canada....

The reason why I had some suspicion has also been explaned by me: when you go on trips and can't find anyone and just keep looking is one thing. When you are having "serious relationship" with several girls at the same time that's a totally different one.

Plus, the guy was having parties with a lot of Ukrainian girls but didn't do anything to stop it, now he says he didn't like that and didn't like paying for them all, but at that time he obviously felt fine with it... that was "extremely serious."
 

[Vasilisa]

nope, i work in a bakery, but i never can tell when I'm free, on what hours i have to start, or when i have done, most of the time i work 10, 11 hours a day, 6 days a week
so sorry, that I'm to tired to go out and having fun with mine friends

You told that you'd had a lot of video calls with the girls, what kind of things were you discussing, what kind of plans were you making, did you discuss any plans for the future together, if yes, how did you see their future in your country or your future in their country(if you were planning to migrate to Ukraine)


PS: you also mentioned that the video calls, etc took a lot of money, video and skype messenger calls are free. What exactly was the sum of so many thousands of euros spend on?

[mies]

Gator, i'm sorry but your words are very degrading. What are we,  some equipment for guys to gain experience? This is offensive.
 

Do you wish to share why you have little dating experience?   Dependent upon your reasons, I can agree with ML that dating FSUW is a good way to gain some experience.

[bruttus]

You told that you'd had a lot of video calls with the girls, what kind of things were you discussing, what kind of plans were you making, did you discuss any plans for the future together, if yes, how did you see their future in your country or your future in their country(if you were planning to migrate to Ukraine)


PS: you also mentioned that the video calls, etc took a lot of money, video and skype messenger calls are free. What exactly was the sum of so many thousands of euros spend on?

sum of those videocalls, in total was around 8000 euro, consider it was 280 euro for 50 min of talk, from June to end august
what we where talking about, everything except sex
well, in the beginning, was the idea to bring here to mine country, i was looking up for a way that here diploma was accepted in Belgium, and could work what she studied for (pharmacy), so you can think what you want, but for me, its a waste to let someone comes over to a other country, and the only thing she can do is working in a factory or cleaninglady, while she do high studies
after a time, well, I'm a cook, not a baker, and was thinking to open a Belgian restaurant in Ukraine
well, i was falling in love for the nature and beauty in Ukraine
looks silly, but i was really considering it to migrate to there

[Eduard]

is Belgian cuisine similar to French?

[bruttus]

is Belgian cuisine similar to French?

no better, and mutch more on youre plate