FSU-Women & FemDom?

[ML]

BTW - I got interesting private messages from members, which are now recognizing their own situation in their relationships.

Not a private message, but . . .

My Gal has interesting feature that has endured.

She often asks me what I want to eat.  After I describe some alternatives . . . she tells me what we are going to eat . . . which usually has no semblance to anything I have suggested and . . . she knew all along what we were going to eat before she asked me.

This doesn't bother me very much and I even find it humorous.

Home prepared meals is the only thing in which she displays this 'control' feature.

[Eduard]

Not a private message, but . . .

My Gal has interesting feature that has endured.

She often asks me what I want to eat.  After I describe some alternatives . . . she tells me what we are going to eat . . . which usually has no semblance to anything I have suggested and . . . she knew all along what we were going to eat before she asked me.

Welcome to the world of married! 

[calmissile]

Not a private message, but . . .

My Gal has interesting feature that has endured.

She often asks me what I want to eat.  After I describe some alternatives . . . she tells me what we are going to eat . . . which usually has no semblance to anything I have suggested and . . . she knew all along what we were going to eat before she asked me.

This doesn't bother me very much and I even find it humorous.

Home prepared meals is the only thing in which she displays this 'control' feature.

Not being a fussy eater, I could live with this 'feature'.  LOL

[Olly]

Not being a fussy eater, I could live with this 'feature'.  LOL

You will for sure!
- Darling, what you want for dinner? Rostbeef or spagetti?
- Spagetti would be great, honey
- darling, im so tired today, i will buy a pizza
 

[noelscot]

follow a woman around like a puppy dog and treat her like a princess, then wait for the epic fail. no woman is going to respect a man who does not carry himself like a King.  >>> this is not true. And most importantly, when an old pauper carries himself like a young King - the sight is so sad that it's not even ridiculous anymore.


RW have a whole different outlook than AW and an AM planning on dating RW should make friends with a RM so that he will know the mind of a RW. >>> it's totally up to you who to make friends with. Maybe making friends with AW is a good starting point.


no url for the other forum where the RW say what they really think about their foolish AM husbands? lol.  >>> it's a large forum, and easy google search will yield you results. The word "assault with deadly weapon" are also easy to find. I personally, have no interest in helping you in your witchhunt .

ok, so a man SHOULD follow a woman around like a puppy dog? also, he should act like he is a pauper if he is a pauper? follow that advice and the guy is going to be a loser for the rest of his life. a person has to project an air of royalty if he wants to be treated like royalty. if he acts otherwise, even if he is old pauper, he'll be treated like he is an old pauper. who cares if something is ridiculous? if it works is the only thing that matters. i agree some people go overboard with the whole acting like a king thing.
 
never ask a woman for advice about women. that's been my experience. i'd trust a RM to give advice about a RW before i EVER trusted a RW to advise about RW. RM will tell the unexpurgated truth about Russkaya whereas the Russkaya will tell what is only beneficial to them. as for making friends with an AW, their counsel would be that "RW only looking for green card. don't be a sucker and get used by them. stay home and find an AW." whether the counsel is true? another matter entirely.
 
as for the url, i am not on a witchhunt. frankly, i don't care if some pear-shaped loser gets fleeced by an Irrawatty cobra. i just like to read this stuff for my own personal amusement. sort of like looking at a trainwreck. cannot look away even though horrible.
 
no-one called you on it, but you pretty much agreed with my original post that an AM should behave like a RM.
 
anyway, back to the original topic. hope the guy finds his Russkaya Tigress. guess he doesn't know that it's not necessary to explicitly ask for a woman who will stomp his balls with the hills. all women ready and willing to comply to do that if the man not providing her material and emotional needs. lol.   

[mies]

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[Daveman]

  a person has to be a royalty if he wants to be treated like one. Otherwise he should take a hike.

Kinda along the lines of what I think about the RW who want to be treated like queens/princesses...

that's why there are so many divorces between AM-RW, because so many AM are liars who pretend to be a king, and require royal treatment from their RW because no one else in the world ever gave them such treatment and never will, while they have nothing to backup their unreasonable expectations.

 
again, we have very similar views, just the gender is reversed.  Perhaps neither one of us has much tolerance for what we perceive to be crappy, demanding, materialistic, entitlement attitude people.      

  yeah. as if you knew how do RM act. 

A serious question relating to another post up thread about what RM do...  would a RW take a RM shopping on the first date with the expectation of him buying her things?  Or does the RM do exactly what he wants for exactly the reasons he wants..

[mies]

Kinda along the lines of what I think about the RW who want to be treated like queens/princesses...

And I agree with you.

 
 

again, we have very similar views, just the gender is reversed.  Perhaps neither one of us has much tolerance for what we perceive to be crappy, demanding, materialistic, entitlement attitude people.      

yes, this sounds about right

A serious question relating to another post up thread about what RM do...  would a RW take a RM shopping on the first date with the expectation of him buying her things?  Or does the RM do exactly what he wants for exactly the reasons he wants..

This is a good question. RM may do what they want, what their woman wants, or what they believe their woman wants. I think they are more irrational, and definitely much less calculative. A calculative (in the romantic sphere) RM is rather an anomaly, especially if he is in love or even simply likes a woman. For WM it's an anomaly to not be calculative.
Simple example: I never met RM who broke up with a woman because he wasn't sure if he is spending too much and whether her feelings are genuine. I met RM who broke up with a girl because they weren't sure where to the relationship was leading and whether woman will eventually marry them - but only in the cases when RM was in his late 40s-50s and wanted to have a "sure deal" with a 20-25yo girl. Younger guys never behave this way.

Whether it's normal for RM to take a girl shopping on a first date - no, I don't think it's common. On the other hand, if they have 60K income - they may take a girl shopping on a first date. They can bring you flowers in the middle of the night, or do something else unique and unusual.
A personal example: once a guy invited me to a date. I was about 19, somewhat naive, somewhat stupid, somewhat arrogant, and said that i need the guy with Jaguar and unless he drives one - I won't go to the date with him. He asked what kind of Jaguar. As a joke - i named the very rare model, very expensive, limited edition (I do not even remember anymore what it was called but back then it was my dream car). Of course I was joking - I wasn't making a serious request. I wasn't even sure whether there was a car like that in Ukraine. The guy said "ok, let's meet in 3 hours." In 3 hours he picked me up in this very model of the Jaguar. He borrowed the car from one of his friends to make my wish come true. He fulfilled my condition in a humorous way, because he didn't really own the car, but the condition "date with a guy who drives Jaguar" was met. Was it an expensive gesture? Probably not, just a luck and coincidence that he knew someone who actually had that car. Was he following me around like a puppy dog? No. He did what I asked for, but did it with a dignity and pride, I'm sure he had a good laugh when he saw my surprised face. I somehow hardly imagine an American guy doing anything like that for me. But this kind of behavior is very typical among RMs whom I've known.

[Misha]

A calculative (in the romantic sphere) RM is rather an anomaly, especially if he is in love or even simply likes a woman. ...

A personal example: once a guy invited me to a date. I was about 19...


I somehow hardly imagine an American guy doing anything like that for me. But this kind of behavior is very typical among RMs whom I've known.

Perhaps you sample is biased as you are comparing the behaviour of men from the FSU in their late teens/early twenties with much older men in the USA, let us say in the forties and fifties    I don't believe that young men in the FSU necessarily have a monopoly of doing crazy things when young and in love 

[Belvis]

Kinda along the lines of what I think about the RW who want to be treated like queens/princesses...

RW or any woman wants to be treated like queens/princesses, quite a natural and expected wish.  She has not to be a royalty for that. A man who treats her like that would be a king in her eyes. Even if she fails to recognize him a king he will respect himself at any outcome (*even if I won't get her, I'll warm up* ). So it's up for a man to decide if he wanna be a king... or master which would be the different form of attitude.

[mies]

Perhaps you sample is biased as you are comparing the behaviour of men from the FSU in their late teens/early twenties with much older men in the USA, let us say in the forties and fifties    I don't believe that young men in the FSU necessarily have a monopoly of doing crazy things when young and in love 

My samples are comparable. Most of my friends here are my age, +/- 5 years, and I know many college kids, undergrads too. I arrived to USA when I was 26, now I am 33. Some of my friends I know from literally "day 2" in USA, so I was able to observe their life closely over the course of the years. My husband is 2 years older than me.

College kids in USA are famous for doing crazy things, but it's a different type of "crazy."

[Misha]

College kids in USA are famous for doing crazy things, but it's a different type of "crazy."

You are the same age as my wife and she also arrived in Canada at the age of 26 Nostalgia also plays a role IMHO: one's childhood and college years are often seen in hindsight as unlike that experienced by anybody else anywhere else 

[Daveman]

Well, here in the south we'll climb up and paint yer name on a water tower!  Just can't get any more crazy romantic than that...


Sometimes we'll even do a couple overpasses.. just for good measure.

[SANDRO43]

Sometimes we'll even do a couple overpasses.. just for good measure.

Australian overpasses can be more dangerous :

[mies]

Well, here in the south we'll climb up and paint yer name on a water tower!  Just can't get any more crazy romantic than that...


Sometimes we'll even do a couple overpasses.. just for good measure.

agree, that sounds quite romantic

[mies]

You are the same age as my wife and she also arrived in Canada at the age of 26 Nostalgia also plays a role IMHO: one's childhood and college years are often seen in hindsight as unlike that experienced by anybody else anywhere else 

I agree, part of it is nostalgia, but it doesn't bias my opinion too much. When I was a student back in Ukraine i was active in various student projects, attended conferences abroad and generally had many chances to meet foreign guys of my age/personality type/level of education, it was possible to compare them to Ukrainian guys from the same age group. Plus, since i worked with marriage agencies to earn some cash - I had a chance to meet foreign guys in MOB business. There were some good men, and there were men whose expectations were absurd to say the least. So I wouldn't say that my view has formed recently due to my nostalgia. This is a hypothesis which grew from long-term observations and is verified by many subsequent experiences. I am not saying WM are bad, I am not saying RM are bad. They are distinctly different.

[Misha]

Plus, since i worked with marriage agencies to earn some cash - I had a chance to meet foreign guys in MOB business.

These men certainly would not be representative of your average 19 or 20-year-old American. As for the young men met at conferences, I expect they would also be far from typical as well.

[TheTraveler]

A personal example: once a guy invited me to a date. I was about 19, somewhat naive, somewhat stupid, somewhat arrogant, and said that i need the guy with Jaguar and unless he drives one - I won't go to the date with him. He asked what kind of Jaguar. As a joke - i named the very rare model, very expensive, limited edition (I do not even remember anymore what it was called but back then it was my dream car). Of course I was joking - I wasn't making a serious request. I wasn't even sure whether there was a car like that in Ukraine. The guy said "ok, let's meet in 3 hours." In 3 hours he picked me up in this very model of the Jaguar. He borrowed the car from one of his friends to make my wish come true. He fulfilled my condition in a humorous way, because he didn't really own the car, but the condition "date with a guy who drives Jaguar" was met. Was it an expensive gesture? Probably not, just a luck and coincidence that he knew someone who actually had that car. Was he following me around like a puppy dog? No. He did what I asked for, but did it with a dignity and pride, I'm sure he had a good laugh when he saw my surprised face. I somehow hardly imagine an American guy doing anything like that for me. But this kind of behavior is very typical among RMs whom I've known.

thanks for sharing, mies!
 
what a great story!
 

[mies]

These men certainly would not be representative of your average 19 or 20-year-old American. As for the young men met at conferences, I expect they would also be far from typical as well.

They may be not typical, but they are the closest and comparable match to people whom I associated with in Ukraine.
We have 2 samples: same age, same education level, similar/same/comparable networks and lifestyle, possibly but not necessarily different personal income level or career level, many other similar features. The difference between them is that they come from different cultural environment and have different nationalities/citizenships (live in different countries). There is no temporal separation of observations. The study is performed over the course of 15 years.

This is what my observations and conclusions, and ultimately - a personal opinion, are based upon.

[mies]

thanks for sharing, mies!
 
what a great story!

You are welcomed, TheTraveler

[Jumper]

 http://www.aboutflr.com/What-Is-FLR.html



All joking aside, it really shouldn't be very hard to find a RW that would like to be in a FLR relationship?
For all the macho-ism of the FSU culture,
in many households the RW hold the iron fist of Stalin , as far as family decisions.

I'm not sayng its the largest percentage or anything like that,
but there is certainly a large enough percentage that the OP shouldnt have much trouble in finding someone compatable or interested in FLR?


granted his *offer* of employement , is coming in sideways and might not be received well.

but if he in fact was simply looking for a Female led relationship..
that seems pretty easy.
if taken a bit further into other areas, its doubtful he'd have much trouble finding that either..
but as suggested before ,better odds looking where people of like *interests*
are already searching.





I'm going to fill in for ML here, LOL

I do find it a little amusing that if a man came here looking for a subservient female ,
he'd be hung by the toenails?

 

[Eduard]

never ask a woman for advice about women. that's been my experience. i'd trust a RM to give advice about a RW before i EVER trusted a RW to advise about RW. RM will tell the unexpurgated truth about Russkaya whereas the Russkaya will tell what is only beneficial to them.

Boy, you hit the nail on the head on this one, but not a popular opinion on these fora! 

[Eduard]

as for making friends with an AW, their counsel would be that "RW only looking for green card. don't be a sucker and get used by them. stay home and find an AW." whether the counsel is true? another matter entirely.

LOL, so true. Almost every AW that comes onto my facebook page feels that it is her prerogative and a sacred duty to post something like this about RW: "oh, they are just looking for the US citizenship" or "They are just looking for a Green Card" or "they are all prostitutes".
I'm so fed up with deleting their crap from my facebook page! 

[ML]

LOL, so true. Almost every AW that comes onto my facebook page feels that it is her prerogative and a sacred duty to post something like this about RW: "oh, they are just looking for the US citizenship" or "They are just looking for a Green Card" or "they are all prostitutes".
I'm so fed up with deleting their crap from my facebook page! 

I don't have a page on Facebook or any of the similar sites.

But, can't you set the parameters such that not just anyone can post on your pages?   i.e. they first have to be given permission by you, or are in a list you have constructed, etc.

[BC]

LOL, so true. Almost every AW that comes onto my facebook page feels that it is her prerogative and a sacred duty to post something like this about RW: "oh, they are just looking for the US citizenship" or "They are just looking for a Green Card" or "they are all prostitutes".
I'm so fed up with deleting their crap from my facebook page! 

Why bother deleting? Just ask each to be brave enough to post a picture of themselves and compete.