Beaten in Odessa

[Shadow]

 
You are too kind to have those beliefs. Everyone in the FSU understands there is opportunity to make money illegally as an FSU police officer called a bribe. There are other ways, with little or no consequence, to make money illegally as an officer too. Why is it too hard to believe some police officers simply join the force for those opportunities? I certainly don't believe everyone who signs on to be a police officer is doing it for an honorable and unselfish reason.


Some people reading and learning about the FSU will tend to believe what you and Belvis are saying about FSU cops and think it's a good idea to interact with them even if it's to ask for directions. Some will tend to believe me and see interaction with them as unpredictable and risky. I don't trust FSU police organization. You have faith in them. For those readers who tend to believe and may be affected by what you say, can you and/or Belvis honestly say FSU police is an organization of integrity or at least say they pose no more risk interacting with them compared to the cops in Europe or America?

I guess the weight of people who have experience of living their a major part of their life is higher as those who come in to flash their wallet and grab the first available woman. But that is just me.

Yes, I believe that interacting with the police in the FSU is generally not more risky as doing the same in Europe or America. As long as you interact with them with the same respect.

Medical care is not free in any country. Someone paid for it even if it's under the disguise of taxes.
 
The person asking you how you're going to pay is a clerk, not a doctor holding medical care for ransom in a life and death situation, If the child is having heat seizures and you went to the emergency room, it's against the law for the hospital to withhold medical care even if you aren't carrying a wallet, identification, or a medical insurance card.


Although your niece had a fever, she had to wait in line for her turn to see the doctor behind the rest of the ill people and of course the question on how one is to pay will come up.
 
I told my wife I don't blame FSU doctors getting supplimental income for the work they do and believe they're underpaid and overworked but it's simply wrong to hold someones life on the line for an enormous amount of money when they took a job knowing what the base pay is.

When you arrive at a medical emergency room anywhere in Europe or Russia, you first meet a doctor who will make a diagnosis, and only then they will start processing the administrative part.
In America it seemed the other way around. They first process the administrative part and only then give access to medical care. It may be illegal to withhold, but they sure to make you feel like it is not. Just like some FSU doctors will make you feel they can not do their job without extra pay.

[SANDRO43]

Our ladies in the Southbay, many from Eastern European descent are beautiful beyond words.  Judge for yourself.

Are you sure that lady is from Southbay ? She looks identical to Ukrainian model Valeriya Lukianova, famous as the "living Barbie Doll":

http://www.ibtimes.com/ukrainian-living-doll-valeria-lukyanova-uses-plastic-surgery-and-cosmetics-become-barbie-photos

Her photos are also a favourite target of Double/Triple Dealers, some 70 of them having 'borrowed' them for their profiles .

[alex330]

Are you sure that lady is from Southbay ? She looks identical to Ukrainian model Valeriya Lukianova, famous as the "living Barbie Doll":

http://www.ibtimes.com/ukrainian-living-doll-valeria-lukyanova-uses-plastic-surgery-and-cosmetics-become-barbie-photos

Her photos are also a favourite target of Double/Triple Dealers, some 70 of them having 'borrowed' them for their profiles .

You are correct and she lives nowhere near Southbay. She lives in Odessa, Ukraine. Over 400k worth of surgery.

PS - she was also registered on Anastasia Date at one time.

[Eduard]

Are you sure that lady is from Southbay ? She looks identical to Ukrainian model Valeriya Lukianova, famous as the "living Barbie Doll":


http://www.ibtimes.com/ukrainian-living-doll-valeria-lukyanova-uses-plastic-surgery-and-cosmetics-become-barbie-photos
Her photos are also a favourite target of Double/Triple Dealers, some 70 of them having 'borrowed' them for their profiles .

yes I see her photos (used by other people) all the time on Russian sites. I don't know about you guys but I don't find her attractive. She looks like a cartoon or anime character to me.

[CDW]

Are you sure that lady is from Southbay ? She looks identical to Ukrainian model Valeriya Lukianova, famous as the "living Barbie Doll":

http://www.ibtimes.com/ukrainian-living-doll-valeria-lukyanova-uses-plastic-surgery-and-cosmetics-become-barbie-photos

Her photos are also a favourite target of Double/Triple Dealers, some 70 of them having 'borrowed' them for their profiles .

She should pose as a window displayer!

[jone]

Are you sure that lady is from Southbay ? She looks identical to Ukrainian model Valeriya Lukianova, famous as the "living Barbie Doll"  Her photos are also a favourite target of Double/Triple Dealers, some 70 of them having 'borrowed' them for their profiles .

Soooooooo,

She could be living in the Southbay.  I don't know what all of the fuss is about.  It was commented that our women eat too many Barbie pills.

When I was in college, at the University of Wisconsin in Madison, we used to argue that Pyotr Ilyich Chaykovsky really didn't live in SPB, but had a one room walk up flat just off of State Street in Madison.  And that 'On Wisconsin' and the '1812 Overture' were really part of the same music.  Listen:

[Hammer2722]

Another hi-jacked thread..... 

[Daveman]

Another hi-jacked thread..... 

Well... not completely hi-jacked... 

You are correct and she lives nowhere near Southbay. She lives in Odessa, Ukraine. Over 400k worth of surgery.

PS - she was also registered on Anastasia Date at one time.

Because she appears to live in Odessa AND was at one time registered on Anastasia Date.. 


But, yeah, let's try to keep this topic clean from widening drift such as:


--- I'm surprised no one is clamoring for Mallet Control Legislation...


Wishing the victim a speedy recovery...

[jone]

I think we're all sitting on our hands.  Our Op has the flu and we are waiting for the police to make their move.

[BillyB]

Yes, I believe that interacting with the police in the FSU is generally not more risky as doing the same in Europe or America. As long as you interact with them with the same respect.

 
Thanks for your answer although I disagree. Although FSU cops aren't as bad and Stalin's cops, who went around killing all their top military officers and citizens who disagreed with Stalin's politics, obtaining respect is not a cops goal if he's looking to make some money illegally.
 
 
 

I would note that police organizations in USA and Russia have completely different reputations in American and Russian minds because we're brainwashed by different media.

 
Even with Russia's state controlled media, their government and cops still have a bad reputation. My wife lived in Libya and a friend in Iraq and nothing but great things have been said about their previous leaders. Look what happened to them. Media doesn't control everybody, just the simple minded people.
 
 

--- I'm surprised no one is clamoring for Mallet Control Legislation...

 
It would be irresponsible to outlaw all mallets since many people use them. We need to determine if it's a claw hammer, sledge hammer, ball peen hammer, etc.. and target the appropriate weapon so justice is served and we can feel better next time we go to the FSU that our heads won't be split open.
 
 
 

we are waiting for the police to make their move.

 
The ball is in their hands. Vaiano777 wrote an Anastasia rep was told the police would have the case resolved in a week. Does anyone know if the cops even went back to the apartment to check for fingerprints, hair samples for dna, and other evidence yet? If they haven't done it by now, I doubt they are taking this incident seriously. Tracking the girl in question may be easier with Anastasia giving up the records on her but she wasn't the one who swung the hammer and maybe not the one who actaully stole his wallet and other items. The cops need to have strong evidence she had a part in the crime and then get her to give up the names of her accomplices.
 
 
If the cops do their job, the next step is to get the proscutor and judge to do their jobs. Hopefull they and the cops don't get bribed out of it. It'll be a fight all the way to get justice.

[vaiano777]

For those of you that doubt any aspect of this story, as another person stated, I'd like to make some money at some point for the services I render. I was motivated by a desire to help others, and felt that no one was really championing the guys who come over here with the sincere intention of finding a woman for a good relationship and a good life.

So, that being said, how do I benefit at all by stating anything but the truth? I am trying to gain credibility for my book, my website, my blog, and my services. If any aspect of my story is not true, then me, my book, blog, website, and services get lumped into the pile of scamming websites that already exist. It makes no sense to me why those of you who choose to criticize cannot see that.

Why am I doing all of this for a guy I made $15 off of?

Well, the best I can explain is a line from the movie "A Few Good Men" with Tom Cruise, Jack Nicholson, and Kevin Bacon. At the end of the movie, Private Downey, said, "Why can't we go back to our platoon now?"

And, Lnc Corp Dawson said, "We didn't protect the guy who couldn't protect himself."

Forgive me if I've paraphrased a bit, but for whatever reason, that line stuck with me all of these years, and after the life I've had and the things I've seen and experienced, I have this inexplicable feeling inside me that just motivates me to help those who don't seem to have any help.

The deceit from these dating and marriage agency sites is sickening to me, and I remember my own enthusiasm and excitement at the possibility of having that young, beautiful Russian or Ukrainian girl on my arm, as I spent thousands of dollars on Anastasia and poured hundreds of hours of my precious time trying to develop a relationship with a girl who never actually received any of my heartfelt letters.

If there is one thing I have going for me it is my sincerity, and my sincere desire to help others. Some people are givers, and others are takers. I'd like to think I do more giving than taking.

Now, I've been in bed all day because I got sick. I went to work this morning, and was sent home because of my illness. I cannot teach today or tomorrow, and unfortunately, I've lost quite a bit of income as a result of my trying to help this man, his mother, and family. And, I thought by posting here, I might be able to save someone else the grief that this guy has experienced. If I've helped one person, then it's worth it.

I want to thank those of you who have generally tried to help. I am in contact with a couple of people who are trying to help and to get the word out. There is no need to post the girl's id or picture as she has been removed from Anastasia as well as the original site where she was registered. The owner of that site called me today and wants to meet with me. The pictures of the blood spattered walls will make it out soon enough. But, for now, I choose to respect the mother's desire to keep those off of the internet.

The victim did check out of the hospital today, and he and his mother are in a flat somewhere in Odessa convalescing.

[mies]

You are correct and she lives nowhere near Southbay. She lives in Odessa, Ukraine. Over 400k worth of surgery.

PS - she was also registered on Anastasia Date at one time.

I doubt that, because she started her surgeries when she was already married, and she is married still.

[alex330]

I doubt that, because she started her surgeries when she was already married, and she is married still.

She was on the site when married. She has been with husband since 16. Now you see how Anastasia works 

My wife knows her personally. They run in the same circles and nightlife in Odessa.

EDIT - My wife also worked for a very large agency connected to Anastasia.

[CDW]

I doubt that, because she started her surgeries when she was already married, and she is married still.

400k ???????????????? 

Maybe only me, but I think she is ugly!!  If I want a woman as beautiful as her, I would buy a mannequin.   

Advantage of using mannequin:
 - cheaper to buy £100  ($150)
-  No running costs involved (I own fashion business, and can put clothes on her)
-  Never seen her in a bad mood, or seeing her complaining
-  20 years time, she will still look as beautiful as today

So, using this 'real doll'
- Spend £400k on operation
- will spend further k in the future (eg 20 years time)
- guarantee bad mood, complaining

sex?  I doubt that she is good at it as she wants to keep herself perfect!  So no different to mannequin lol

[alex330]

Одесса большая деревня

[Daveman]

400k ???????????????? 

Maybe only me, but I think she is ugly!!  If I want a woman as beautiful as her, I would buy a mannequin.   

...

Shouldn't that be a womannequin?




Wellll ... I wouldn't exactly kick her out of the bed... unless she claimed to be extraordinarily talented on the floor (would that be a flooral pattern?), but I agree, she just doesn't look quite right.

[Eduard]

I doubt that, because she started her surgeries when she was already married, and she is married still.

Why would that stop her from having a profile on anastasia?

[ML]

sex?  I doubt that she is good at it as she wants to keep herself perfect!  So no different to mannequin lol

Good sex (for her) will make any woman look better.

And the obverse; why do you think some  women have a perpetual scowl on their face?

[Shadow]

And the obverse; why do you think some  women have a perpetual scowl on their face?

Because of their goat.

[mies]

Why would that stop her from having a profile on anastasia?

Because maybe her husband wouldn't like his wife having her profiles on dating and MOB web-sites, and given that he pays for her lifestyle, he would have at least some say in what she does....
Since he's not the poorest Odessa man, although maybe not the richest one, suppose one of his business partners encounter his wive's profile on dating sites. And ask him "what's going on between you two?"
Just a general thought, most men wouldn't want their wives to have profiles on dating & marriage sites.
 

[mies]

sex?  I doubt that she is good at it as she wants to keep herself perfect!  So no different to mannequin lol

(In a gossip-like whisper:)

CDW, what do you do to women while having sex with them so that it degrades their looks?
Do you disclose on your dating profiles what negative effect the intimacy with you has on woman's looks?

Just curious.

[mies]

And the obverse; why do you think some  women have a perpetual scowl on their face?

Because they had sex with the men who do same thing to women as CDW does? 

[ML]

Because they had sex with the men who do same thing to women as CDW does? 

As is frequently said (in movies and TV shows) . . . what we just did is illegal in 27 states!!

[Kunstkammer]

So, the guy has been in the hospital for two days, and he will be staying with me until his mother comes from America to stay with him. He cannot travel for a minimum of three weeks as the lesions in his head need time to heal from the head trauma, numerous concussions, and broken ribs.

TLDR the whole thread, I'm no doctor, but is that even possible?

[Kunstkammer]

Also thread made me put on my Chanson records.


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