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Offline Vanilla

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« Reply #200 on: April 20, 2006, 12:04:35 PM »
That is just ungrateful and very selfish, and no, there is no Russian  custom saying anything like that. Hey - for example - my Mom loves to  get kitchen stuff - nice sets of pots,  for God's sake, nice  dinnerware, etc.  :shock:

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« Reply #201 on: April 20, 2006, 12:43:01 PM »
I have a differing thought on Maxx.  I see him as one that is attempting to work in conjunction  with others.  And he is seeing many making the same mistakes as he made and is telling them not to make his error.  I see no shame in this  Many times when we succeed we do not really know why.  We just know what we are doing is working in our given situation and continue to maintain, because the results are positive.

To rose:

You need not worry on offending me.  As long as you are truthful and honest I believe everyone has a right to consider me as they wish and I accept that.

You think me arrogant, and I generally agree with that.  I consider it to be my largest flaw. It is also a flaw that I accept in myself and I recognize it as a potential weakness (although more often than not it is a strength as well).  I do not see anything wrong with the American thought that we are better than other nations, quite simply because in many cases it is true.  At this point in time the US is the pinnacle of technology, economics, and civilization.  Americans have a good reason to feel as they do and most of us make no apologies for our thoughts.  When other nations do not like the US it does not bother me at all, as I am sure other nations could care less that the US does not like them (france comes to mind).  I also agree that I am a good representative of this group.

You are correct.  I do have strong opinions of many issues.  I make no apologies for this.  I also agree that sometimes life is not black and white.  But sometimes it is.  I am also willing to accept that I can be wrong on some things (although I admit this is rare).  I am not sure that I would label having strong opinions as being small minded.  I am willing to listen, and reason someone's opinion.  However I have often heard the opposite opinion many times, and have thus already come to my conclusions about it.  One of the benefits of strong opinions is that when confronted with those that feel the opposite, thy feel compelled to assault you with their opinion (I am guilty of this as well).  In most cases, it is not that I am unwilling to listen, but rather that I have listened, over and over, to said opinion.  Were information that I was unaware of presented, I would happily listen and reevaluate my thoughts.  Although often the new information is not so large and earth shattering to change my view.  I disagree that intelligence is determined by the incapability to form strong opinions.

I find it interesting that you feel I will disagree totally with you.  I pride myself on the ability to be self critical and I recognize both my strengths and weaknesses.  I also understand and respect that it is not an insult but an honest opinion.

I do not really think of myself as someone that goes out of my way to be offensive to people, and I have a very powerful sense of honor and loyalty.  I am often blunt and "in your face" with my thoughts".  Most times Ive found that people ignore and walk on the polite people of the word.  Lessons from my ex-wife I suppose.

I also agree with you on the entire idea of purpose and self improvement.  I must admit I have great admiration on your ability to learn my character and how and why I am the way I am.  I do have a nice side (I bring it out on special occasions   ).  Unfortunately it is difficult to show that side via typed words.  Its hard to show the man that would not dream of showing up as a guest without a bottle of wine, or a favorite treat of his host, or the man that is willing to risk himself physically to defend real abuse of a woman.  It is hard to show the man that people have trusted with secrets and would never reveal them because it is dishonorable.  I do wish that it comes out more, better, or more articulately.  One of the reasons that I admire BillyB the way that I do is that he and I are VERY much alike in many ways.  He has a better way of showing than I here.  I do thank you for your well wishes (btw do you have a sister cause I think I remember a very very brief moment in which you had a head shot as your avatar... and your my type )

I also agree that I often present my opinion in ways that annoy people.  Again, I have a knack (hence my nickname in life btw) for being blunt in my opinions.  I can be diplomatic when called on (as some on this board can attest as there have been times I wanted to slap someone for their rudeness to my host in front of a group of people).


Our thoughts on education are very much the same.  I speak to children much differently then I do an adult.  I also would not dream though of speaking to an adult in the manner I would a child.  I never put down a child, because they lack life experience to make judgments.  An adult should know better and thus at times I admit to having a degree of condescension. I also agree that the state of public education is sad and that teachers are not held to high standards (one of the reasons I wanted to go into teaching was because I think of myself as the higher standard perhaps arrogantly so).


Perhaps I've hardened, but you are correct in that I do not much care what anyone's opinion of me is.  I do my best to be the best man that I can me and I constantly second guess what is honorable and not, what is ethical and not.  I agree that maybe that I could stand to be more compassionate to people at times.  Honestly I feel that the right woman will do that (as happened in my past).

I did not answer your post in haste as you wished (although had I done so the difference would have been little except perhaps less wordy).  But I do not go out of my way to be mean just honest (although often the truth is a cruel thing).

I've no wish to fight you nor do I dislike you.  I simply state what I think.  I will however consider what you have said.

 

edited to correct my p00r spellllllling
« Last Edit: April 20, 2006, 12:46:00 PM by Daknack »

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« Reply #202 on: April 20, 2006, 12:53:36 PM »
DaKnack, accept my respect!

P.S. As to my sister, it's funny, but you've already asked me the same question on the other forum, and I've already answered you. :D I'll give you a hint: I don't look the same as I was at my pic, I'm a readhead now. Can you solve this puzzle?

 

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« Reply #203 on: April 20, 2006, 01:05:25 PM »
VAVOOM!!!  Red heads are so damn sexy.....  I dont remember so you must remind me on the sister issue ;)

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« Reply #204 on: April 20, 2006, 01:40:42 PM »
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Im impressed a woman interested in history, politics, and economics? You have a sister??


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« Reply #205 on: April 20, 2006, 01:43:02 PM »
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VAVOOM!!!  Red heads are so damn sexy.....

Do you know the TV serie called "Married with children"... you can find a perfect red head in these serie :D:P:D

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« Reply #206 on: April 20, 2006, 03:13:40 PM »
I still say Edison learned from his mistakes.   I have to look at my own situation and I would not do again some of the things I did before.  I hope I learned from my mistakes.   Yes, it is hard to get a good read on reality from these posts.  Perhaps Maxx did a lot of things wrong that he is not even aware of but still I think he has tried to learn from the things he experienced.  I still think he tries to share those experiences and to help other persons. 

Yes, you can learn from your successes.  I think though once you have a final sucess you don't need to learn things as much.  I think successful guys (in their opinion) who try to beat knowlege into the heads of others with the clue bat do more harm than good.   I think others do not learn as much from the successes of others as they do from their own failures.   There is still a bit of luck in Success.  If Edision had less luck he would have never made a light bulb or made it after 20,000 tries.   If he had more he would have made it after a few thousand.

Personally I appreciate someone who tries to help in a positive and constructive manner and do not like it as much when people think they have all the answers and think everyone else is an idiot.   I think in Maxx's case he is a good guy who is trying to help others avoid what happened to him.  Yes, I think he has some bitterness inside from his experiences and I think he needs to move beyond that when he can but still I think we can learn from Maxx and we can learn from jb and Ken and Clyde and everyone.  

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« Reply #207 on: April 20, 2006, 03:23:14 PM »
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 I think though once you have a final sucess you don't need to learn things as much.  I think successful guys (in their opinion) who try to beat knowlege into the heads of others with the clue bat do more harm than good.   I think others do not learn as much from the successes of others as they do from their own failures

Turbo,

You are living proof of this type of thinking!  Now you only have about 9.990 more failures to endure before you find happiness.  Good luck with that.

KenC
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« Reply #208 on: April 20, 2006, 03:48:35 PM »
Thanks Ken,  I don't think I will be alive after 9990 more failures.   Of course at the rate I am trying that might be by summer.

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« Reply #209 on: April 20, 2006, 03:52:29 PM »
Turbo, during a losing streak, the former great Flyers hockey coach Fred Shero wrote on the team's bulletin board:

The successful man appreciates the fact that failure is nothing more  than a state of mind. He believes the way to react to it is not with  fear, but with curiosity: "What can I learn from my mistake?"

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« Reply #210 on: April 20, 2006, 04:29:55 PM »
Quote from: KenC

2) Don't make a move until you are prepared in everyway for her to join you


 

In short, I am the guy to turn to if you effed up or fear you might. Ken, you JB, Dan and others are the guys to turn to if you haven't.

I'll talk about my plans to move on etc. in another post. Although I doubt nobody cares much about my current situation and plans finished towards moving in that direction.

Maxx   [/size]

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« Reply #211 on: April 20, 2006, 04:41:16 PM »
AH-HA!  I do know yes!

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« Reply #212 on: April 20, 2006, 05:06:22 PM »
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I still say Edison learned from his mistakes. 

Of course he did!!!  The difference is that he made 9,998 more mistakes, each time learning a little more.  He did not take bulb #1 and hang it around his neck like some medievel loadstone.  He moved forward, and made another and another and another.... until he had success!!!

You talk about the few happily married posters here, reluctant to learn more, but how about taking a few words of advice from a fellow failure?  According to garyC on another board, I am the poster child for failure.  Well, I share that honor with my good friend CG, pictured at left.

For what it's worth, I've had a great time failing.  It has been a ride like no other, and you should all be jealous to be in my shoes.  OK, one shoe, I seem to have lost the other one somewhere in Lviv... 

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« Reply #213 on: April 20, 2006, 06:50:11 PM »
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edited to correct my p00r spellllllling


In case you want some help with spell-check, there was a post a while back that may help-- http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/forum1/1368.html

The new board will make it even easier.

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« Reply #214 on: April 20, 2006, 09:24:03 PM »
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I'll talk about my plans to move on etc. in another post. Although I doubt nobody cares much about my current situation and plans finished towards moving in that direction.

Maxx 

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Maxx,

That's where you're wrong.  We do care.  At least I know I do.

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« Reply #215 on: April 20, 2006, 09:36:11 PM »
Thanks Ken. I meant about the details of paying off the the debts (whch will be soon)  that have been clinging on me since the divorce and getting myself in a great financial position to do it again. I know I need to make multiple trips like last time, have a beautiful home (which I have) fully furnished (which I haven't) and some cash reserves etc. That's just part of the needed preparations.   

Maxx      

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« Reply #216 on: April 20, 2006, 09:46:19 PM »
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Thanks Ken. I meant about the details of paying off the the debts (whch will be soon)  that have been clinging on me since the divorce and getting myself in a great financial position to do it again. I know I need to make multiple trips like last time, have a beautiful home (which I have) fully furnished (which I haven't) and some cash reserves etc. That's just part of the needed preparations.   

Maxx      

What I have been wondering is how many of these ladies, in anticipation of someone finding them and marrying them, have stashed money. I do know one Ukraine lady who managed to save enough money to self sustain for two years in the US without income here. She paid for her college tuition, living expenses, son's expenses, etc. It made me think how many others might have a nest egg set up for this next adventure in their lives.

I do know that the woman I am now considering, as she is me, has her home in the city and she does own a farm in the country as well. I wonder if those will be sold in order that she has her own money when she does finally arrive. I don't really care what her plan is anyway. Extra is better but not required in the least as far as I am concerned. Just wondering about these ladies in general.

 

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« Reply #217 on: April 21, 2006, 07:13:08 AM »
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Maxx,

That's where you're wrong.  We do care.  At least I know I do.

KenC

Well, if Ken cares, then I guess I do to! :D

Seriously, I recall you describing some attempts earlier on another board.  Your posts on the subject suddenly stopped after someone suggested that blonde RW who looked a lot like Mick Jagger.  My recommendation is to stay away from the bleach blonde bimbos this time and look for someone a little more real - not that I'm any expert.

JP

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« Reply #218 on: April 21, 2006, 07:56:24 AM »
[user=716]Jay Patches[/user] wrote: 
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Well, if Ken cares, then I guess I do to! :D

Seriously, I recall you describing some attempts earlier on another board.  Your posts on the subject suddenly stopped after someone suggested that blonde RW who looked a lot like Mick Jagger.  My recommendation is to stay away from the bleach blonde bimbos this time and look for someone a little more real - not that I'm any expert.

JP
What about redheads? :D

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« Reply #219 on: April 21, 2006, 08:15:13 AM »
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What about redheads? :D

 :D:D:D I say AMEN! for redheads!!! :D:D:D

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« Reply #220 on: April 21, 2006, 10:29:19 AM »
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What about redheads? :D

Sorry Rose.  Any attractive redheads should be writing to me.  Maxx can write to all the others but please save the redheads for me! :D

JP

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« Reply #221 on: April 21, 2006, 11:36:08 AM »
Maxx, "the most misunderstood man on the internet!" 

[user=716]Jay Patches[/user] wrote:
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Seriously, I recall you describing some attempts earlier on another board.  Your posts on the subject suddenly stopped after someone suggested that blonde RW who looked a lot like Mick Jagger.  My recommendation is to stay away from the bleach blonde bimbos this time and look for someone a little more real - not that I'm any expert.

JP

Ah I remember that incident well. We had a AM with a young Ukrainian wife who had a match making business matching up couples based on their opinion of the couple's looks on a 1-10 scale. I was given a 7 but would have gotten a 8 if I had not been formally being married to Elvira. Anyway these people took themselves rather serious. So me and Don Juan decided to have some fun so we photoshopped my photo together with a outrageous looking (IMO but I still think she is hot) RW and say that this guy's wife set me up with her. The AM came back and posted his wife was crushed at our mockery of her and her business. Heck we thought they would think this was funny!



Note where Don Juan placed my hand during the photo shop edit



 

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« Reply #222 on: April 21, 2006, 11:39:21 AM »
Maxx.. those lips are scary..

Without them 'she' would be a 'he'.

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« Reply #223 on: April 21, 2006, 12:10:36 PM »
She's age appropriate for you Maxx at 45 though she looks and dresses like an 18 yo. She has two kids but you'd never know from her body. I don't see any sagging or stretch marks. Looks like she's still on the market since February.  

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« Reply #224 on: April 21, 2006, 12:47:31 PM »
I know one thing for certain. She should would get mt first ex-wife (AW), family and neighbors all shook up. Not to mention my 78 year old mother. "Hi mom, meet my new wife Olga"



Note to BC: I can live with her "masculane looking nature" Actually I don't notice it much at all.....

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