Need some advice from a Russian lady.

[ML]

Interesting, never heard of that. Any details available somewhere? No ships at that time, only canoes, how could they have managed to cross the Atlantic ?

Here is the Smithsonian article:

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/When-Did-Humans-Come-to-the-Americas-187951111.html

[Larry1]

Sandro,

I remember reading about it a few months ago too, though I can't remember which publication.  A quick look turned up this from Wikipedia:

The Solutrean hypothesis is an alternative theory about the Settlement of the Americas, according to which peoples from Europe may have been among the earliest settlers of the American continent.[1][2] The Solutrean hypothesis was first proposed in 1998. Its key proponents include Dennis Stanford of the Smithsonian Institution and Bruce Bradley of the University of Exeter.[3] The theories that currently are most widely accepted consider the American continent to have been first populated from Asia either via the Bering land bridge or by coastal travel.

According to the Solutrean hypothesis, people associated with the Solutrean culture migrated from Ice Age Europe to North America, bringing their methods of making stone tools with them and providing the basis for the later Clovis technology found throughout North America. The hypothesis rests upon proposed similarities between European Solutrean and Early American Clovis lithic technology. The presence of mtDNA Haplogroup X2A in Native American populations was also used to support the hypothesis.

... The hypothesis proposes that Ice Age Europeans could have crossed the North Atlantic along the edge of the pack ice that extended from the Atlantic coast of France to North America during the last glacial maximum. The model envisions these people making the crossing in small watercraft, using skills similar to those of the modern Inuit people, hauling out on ice floes at night, getting fresh water by melting iceberg ice or the first-frozen parts of sea ice, getting food by catching seals and fish, and using seal blubber as heating fuel. Among other evidence backing up this hypothesis is the discovery among the Solutrean toolkit of bone needles, very similar to those traditionally used by the modern-day Inuit.[6] As well as enabling the manufacture of waterproof clothing from animal skins, the technology could, in theory, have been used to construct kayaks from the same animal skins. However, a 2008 study (see below) argues that the conditions were not favorable for such a crossing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solutrean_hypothesis

[SANDRO43]

Thanks, ML & Phil. However, the date of a possible overland crossing from Beringia is far from settled:

The chronology of migration models is currently divided into two general approaches. The first is the short chronology theory, with the first movement beyond Alaska into the New World occurring no earlier than 15,000–17,000 years ago, followed by successive waves of immigrants. The second belief is the long chronology theory, which proposes that the first group of people entered the hemisphere at a much earlier date, possibly 21,000–40,000 years ago, with a much later mass secondary wave of immigrants.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_strait_theory

[SANDRO43]

The presence of mtDNA Haplogroup X2A in Native American populations was also used to support the hypothesis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solutrean_hypothesis

Larry, the same article later on raises some doubts on the hypothesis:

Though the proponents cite recent archaeological findings in support of the theory, the hypothesis has generally not been well received. Many archaeologists have criticized the proposed similarities as too insignificant and just as likely to be due to chance as to shared origins. As one has said, "few if any archaeologists -- or, for that matter, geneticists, linguists, or physical anthropologists -- take seriously the idea of a Solutrean colonization of America." Two recent DNA studies dismiss the suggestion that  X2A migrated to the Americas via an Atlantic route.

Model of human migration based on Mitochondrial DNA

Of the dominating haplogroups in North America (A,B,C,D,X), the first 3 are Asiatic and only X is "European" .

This relative absence of haplogroup X2 in Asia is one of the major factors causing the current rethinking of the peopling of the Americas. However, the New World haplogroup X2a is as different from any of the Old World X2b, X2c, X2d, X2e, and X2f lineages as they are from each other, indicating an early origin "likely at the very beginning of their expansion and spread from the Near East"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_X_(mtDNA)

Anyway, it's a fascinating area of investigation .

[GQBlues]

..
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RmpljsCIRx0

 
 
Fascinating how our world today evolved.
 
Peru's native Incas painted as Utes while playing American pop star Madonna's song 'La Isla Bonita' in front of a Russian crowd.

[ML]

 
 
Fascinating how our world today evolved.
 
Peru's native Incas painted as Utes while playing American pop star Madonna's song 'La Isla Bonita' in front of a Russian crowd.

I was in Cairo on a charter tour from Ukraine and was the only non-Ukranian, as I knew it.

At the Cairo airport, the Egyptian man said in English, flight 12 ready for boarding, and the Ukrainian people cheered.

[OlgaH]

Each year a music group named "Pakarina" comes to Russia to perform. In 2011 they were in St Petersburg and other cities. In 2012 and again this May they came to Belarus and then Moscow. I could be wrong, but think they are from Peru or Ecuador.

 
 
Fascinating how our world today evolved.
 
Peru's native Incas painted as Utes while playing American pop star Madonna's song 'La Isla Bonita' in front of a Russian crowd.

Not so much information about them. Here is their website
http://pakarina.ru/about.html

as "they" said:  they are from Ecuador and studied in college Musica Andina (Otаvalo).  The band was formed in Russia in 2010. They learned Russian in Russia.  Pakarina means "sunrise" and the place where Incas' spiritual teacher  Illatici Huira Cocha came from. (?) They buy their national costumes in Ecuador.

[SANDRO43]

Inti-Illimani - from Quechuan Inti (sun) and Aymara Illimani (an Andean peak) - is an instrumental and vocal Latin American folk music ensemble from Chile. The group was formed in 1967 by a group of university students and it acquired widespread popularity in Chile for their song Venceremos (We shall win!) which became the anthem of the Popular Unity government of Salvador Allende. At the moment of the September 11, 1973 Chilean coup they were on tour in Europe and were unable to return to their country where their music was proscribed by the ruling military junta.

They often made tours in Italy and appearances at our Festival dell'Unità, the jamborees organised to raise funds for the daily newspaper of our Communist Party.

Later they focused on more folksy - and more widely accepted - Andean music, such as:

[GQBlues]

I'm not sure about this anymore OlgaH, but back in the days I went to Peru with my Peruvian ex-GF to visit her relatives there, and IIRC, Ecuador was conquered by Peru's Inca and became part of the Incan Empire. It eventually became one of the mightiest empire of SA. The Mayan, and the Aztecs being the other two.
 
It was because of this that the indigenous peoples of Ecuador contend that Incas are NOT Ecuadorian.
 
Watching the video, they reminded me of NA's the Utes (werebear would likely know more about this) for no other reason that this tribe generally lived in the Colorado/Utah region (where Utah got it's name a.k.a. People of the Mountains -though some folks say it means 'land of the sun'), much like the Inca tribe of the Andes.
 
I don't remember NA's native americans ever playing wind instrument like those shown on the video. But a funny thought comes to mind imagining these guys speaking 'Russian'.     The world has become very small indeed.

[OlgaH]

GQBlues, I don't think we need to analyze it too mach  It is just a show! 

Last time in Russia I almost "pee my  panties": black guys from Miami in the cowboys costumes and hats, red shirts with acrylic diamonds and everything shiny entertain Russian businessmen in restaurant with some kind mixed-up music. You know after a few shots Russians can dance to anything. 

[werebear]

Ok, the question I have is, are they trying to look like us, or something from where they are from?