Women with Children - more strongly worded advice

[jmana]

Where "there"? Ukraine?

From what I read anywhere the Orthodox religion is popular.  But I also read of many accounts of American women trying this too.  Pretty much anyone who dabbles in spells of any kind is suspect.  I found most of the info from the Topix forum, and you'd be surprised how many women were admitting on there to trying this.  Urine is another thing they use. 

[Gator]

Yes, that one was more than bizarre.
 
but it was an ex at least?

Not so bizarre.  She was UW, from the Carpathian Mountains, descendant of Transylvanians, driven east during the purges following Count Dracula.

[die_cast]

Have you ever discussed birth control with Alina? Perhaps she is avoiding sex because she doesn't want to have another child? Was she married before?

She is 28 y.o. Do you think she has never heard about condoms?

[Wayne]

My exRW tied red ribbons around all the drain pipes in the house. The spell was that all my money would go down the drain! Of course, she already ran up a lot of credit card bills to start with.
 
 

[lonedrake]

You are right, a lot of AM would not like this woman, but an older man might?

 Yea.....maybe he could find some pimp that would want to take her in. Just put an add on craigslist and see if you get any takers.



 Here I thought Alina was a human being......turns out she is just a pet?

[Wayne]

A fair amount of people are allergic to latex. Maybe Jmana thought they were too expensive to buy? Perhaps Alina was raped and only had sex once in her life? We don't really know that much about her. What is her I.Q.? Does she have mental problems?

[jmana]

A fair amount of people are allergic to latex. Maybe Jmana thought they were too expensive to buy? Perhaps Alina was raped and only had sex once in her life? We don't really know that much about her. What is her I.Q.? Does she have mental problems?

Uhhh, I have plenty of condoms at the ready.  I don't think she was raped.  Not sure about her I.Q., she is a talented violinist, so I assume you have to have a decent I.Q. to learn to play an instrument.  Considering she said these stories "saved her life", and it seems like she at least contemplated suicide, I would say she at least has a history of depression.

[Gator]

Wayne, calm down please.

[Wayne]

Jmana, you would really be in trouble if she did commit suicide! Then Maria would be an even bigger problem!
 
Do you have health insurance on them? If so, does it cover mental problems? Don't you think that both mother and daughter should be evaluated?

[ML]

Do you have health insurance on them? If so, does it cover mental problems? Don't you think that both mother and daughter should be evaluated?

Not to be flippant here, but . . . how about we look into a group insurance policy for forum members?

Make sure it covers mental problems; and we should all get evaluated as soon as possible.

[Gator]

Not to be flippant h ere, but . . . how about we look into a group insurance policy for forum members?

Make sure it covers mental problems; and we should all get evaluated as soon as possible.

I believe 95% of us here would be denied.

[pitbull]

Jmana, you would really be in trouble if she did commit suicide! Then Maria would be an even bigger problem!
 
Do you have health insurance on them? If so, does it cover mental problems? Don't you think that both mother and daughter should be evaluated?

Wayne, drop it. Your suggestions in this thread are as crazy as the story itself.

[Jumper]

For someone who writes in riddles and you don't like it.
 
Keyword here is "IF"
IF I knew then what I know now.... is as valid as IF my grandmother had wheels...

Yes more Ifs..in this entire story than anything else


 
and I liked it. Just dint catch what was intended.


We agree far far more than disagree Muzh.


FWIW-
Not only do I not own a hatchet, but IF i bought one , I'd bury it.
 

[BillyB]

I believe 95% of us here would be denied.

Under Obamacare, insurance companies can't deny a person with pre existing conditions so, what we should be concerned about is if there is enough beds for us at the insane asylum.

I have plenty of condoms at the ready.

Between using them and the expiration date, I'd bet the expiration date will come first if you keep Alina.

[Gator]

He found out Alina was pregnant, and he skipped town.

He ran away when his daughter needed him the most!? 


That suggests her father will not be a refuge unless he has been forgiven.  Maybe taking in her and his granddaughter is part of his penance.

[jmana]

He ran away when his daughter needed him the most!? 


That suggests her father will not be a refuge unless he has been forgiven.  Maybe taking in her and his granddaughter is part of his penance.

Oh no, Maria's father left when he found out Alina was pregnant.  Alina's dad left his family when Alina was young.  He was selfish and had the opportunity to come to the US, so he did and abandoned his family in the process. They have since reconciled.

[sleepycat]

Hey jmana, sorry to hear what you are going through at the moment.
Do you mind letting us know which dating website you first met Alina on so we can avoid that site?

[Jumper]

Hey jmana, sorry to hear what you are going through at the moment.
Do you mind letting us know which dating website you first met Alina on so we can avoid that site?

I'm no fan of any site or agency.. I advise men to steer clear of them.
I just dont see how the troubles of this couple have,
would be avoided by avoiding the website they met through.

This seems a pretty clear case of why the K1 was never set up to be used as a trail period?
Its intended use is for established couples , who have already decided to marry,already committed to do so,  then utilizing the 90 days to make wedding arrangements.

While I know K1's are used as a trial period seemingly often, and i may ruffle some feathers pointing out what people actually agree to when signing it..
the odds if it was used as intially intended , of this type scenario are a lot more unlikely.

[Daveman]

I'm no fan of any site or agency.. I advise men to steer clear of them.
I just dont see how the troubles of this couple have,
would be avoided by avoiding the website they met through.

This seems a pretty clear case of why the K1 was never set up to be used as a trail period

Its intended use is for established couples , who have already decided to marry,already committed to do so,  then utilizing the 90 days to make wedding arrangements.

While I know K1's are used as a trial period seemingly often, and i may ruffle some feathers pointing out what people actually agree to when signing it..
the odds if it was used as intially intended , of this type scenario are a lot more unlikely.

Perhaps a good idea would be to mandate that the K-1 (or CR-1) application have a required filing date at a minimum of one year beyond the evidence of the couple's first meeting.  Ruffled feathers or not, importing and/or marrying a stranger takes the good right out of an idea.

[dogspot]

From the looks of things, I think you might be doing her a favor if you send her home. Her latest Twitter post reads "I miss home. I really miss home."

Make her an offer.

[TheTraveler]

Perhaps a good idea would be to mandate that the K-1 (or CR-1) application have a required filing date at a minimum of one year beyond the evidence of the couple's first meeting.  Ruffled feathers or not, importing and/or marrying a stranger takes the good right out of an idea.

can't have freedom to succeed -- without allowing for freedom to fail.

[JayH]

Give me a day or so to create a new member... a Japanese anime artist who has fallen "in love" with an internet story writer and who also wants to get her a visa to Japan..  that should do the trick.

And here I was starting to think your absence and the arrival of this topic were more than a coincidence!!

[Shadow]

Not to be flippant here, but . . . how about we look into a group insurance policy for forum members?

Make sure it covers mental problems; and we should all get evaluated as soon as possible.

I am afraid that it would lead to both normal members leaving the forum. 

[Ranetka]

This works both ways.





Is jmana clueless?  Yes, in believing he knew enough about a woman to ask her to marry him after spending one week together with no sexual intimacy (the epitome of a MOBer IMO).  However, Alina made the same decision.  Unless she has a hidden agenda, she is equally clueless.




Not one should expect that a woman will be in love after just one week together.  The question is whether she enters the relationship in good faith, committed to building a relationship with jmana.   Upon arrival what did Alina do to build the relationship?  The snippets jmana gives suggest not much.  Where are the deep conversations?  This suggests she was not committed, and if not committed why bring the daughter? There are two possible answers:  she is clueless or she has a hidden agenda.

We do not really know what she did or did not do. We only know that little bit about him he had posted. Which is:
 
He was ready to drive her and a little one for 10 hours after long flight.
He dismissed her cooking (was not that an effort on her part?)
She has complained about being cold which was also dismissed.
She is likely to be as clueless as he is but to say she does nothing we can not because he is likely to miss the clues when she is trying to.....

[Ranetka]

Generally speaking I think they are both clueless of what the other wants. I think since they are both here and she seems nothing to come back to they could give it the best try. Just as well.
What I think he might do is to be very direct i.e.
"Alina, I want you to meet me at the door when I am back". "Alina, please only work on the stories when I am not at home". "Alina, are you cold?"  etc etc...
Just because they both would struggle to have a relationship with their peers (that's the reason to get involved in MOB really) they could just as well try and make the best out of the situation.