Sick of it

[Doll]

Seriously, guys- it is Russian women discussion forum. Relationships and stuff like this.
Now it is stuffed with anti-Russian threads.
Are you crazy or what- to call President and the whole country names?
All respected forums ban threads like these, and here they are blooming and multiplying.
It is VERY disturbing.
Can we just go back to what this board was designed for?

[AkMike]

This is the news area of the forum, and the invasion is news. 

The rest of the forum isn't filled with the news.

[Doll]

This is the news area of the forum, and the invasion is news. 

The rest of the forum isn't filled with the news.

The way it is worded by some members is unacceptable.

[AkMike]

Really?


 Why is that? 

[BillyB]

Seriously, guys- it is Russian women discussion forum. Relationships and stuff like this.

Lot's of people are affected by the events over there, including those men who are currently writing and visiting ladies. Married men who are married have families living there that are affected so the events will continue to be talked about until it's over.

Now it is stuffed with anti-Russian threads.

I don't like what Putin is doing. I don't hold it against the Russian people but the Russian people are rightfully upset with the direction their country is going. Annexing Ukraine is not the answer. Your leaders and their acceptance of corruption is the problem.


Russian citizens need to ask themselves why Polish citizens have higher income than the average Russian citizen. Russia has a big population, huge amounts of resources, and intelligent people. There's no reason for them not to be in the top five in the world. Ukraine is not the answer.

[lordtiberius]

The Russian people bear some responsibility for Putler's actions otherwise the whole Nuremberg thing was pointless.

Doll, try to find the win win.

[AkMike]

Yanukovich and his gang ran out of Ukraine just ahead of the lynch mob for his lying, cheating and stealing from Ukraine.

 Maybe it's time for Russia to follow Ukraine's example?  Putler worth has been valued at 71 BILLION USD. Do you thin he can get that kind of coin legally and honestly?

[Doll]

You are deaf- you only hear yourself.
I tried.
Seriously, all these threads are just shame and nothing else.
 

[cc3]

Seriously, guys- it is Russian women discussion forum. Relationships and stuff like this.
Now it is stuffed with anti-Russian threads.
Are you crazy or what- to call President and the whole country names?
All respected forums ban threads like these, and here they are blooming and multiplying.
It is VERY disturbing.
Can we just go back to what this board was designed for?

You can't have it both ways, Doll. Putin used the excuse for his naked aggression on a sovereign nation that there are so many Russian speakers in Ukraine (my fiancee happens to be one, but she is a loyal Ukrainian). His fascist, Hitler-like behavior is delaying my marriage to my fiancee, because she has the misfortune to be living in Luhansk, where native-English speakers, such as I, are subject to lynch mob separatist apprehension, abuse/torture, and possibly death, just for being American or British or Aussie or Kiwi or Canadian. The Donbass, where I have spent many enjoyable times with my fiancee, is now a no-go zone for me, directly attributable to Putin's barbaric thought patterns and behavior. And...90% of Russia's populace supports, seemingly unquestioningly, his uncivilized leadership. SO naturally, I now have a tremendous amount of antipathy toward the Nazi-like behavior of the Russian nation collectively.

As for this being the "Russian Women Discussion" board, every male here knows that term encompasses women from all of the FSU countries where there are a large number of Russian speaking women, NOT just women from the nation of Russia. Frankly, with the mindless, automaton support for Putin, I could never be interested in a Russian citizen female.

[Anotherkiwi]

The way it is worded by some members is unacceptable.

Why?  Correct me if I'm wrong, but you've lived in the USA for more than 10 years and you're now an American citizen - do you complain the same way about the criticisms levelled at President Obama?  He has actually been called far worse things on this forum than President Putin ever has.
 
I (like you) would love to see this forum revert to what it was designed for, and what it, in fact, WAS before the annexation of Crimea and the removal of Yanukovych.  Unfortunately, I see no way now that this will ever happen.  Even if Russia leaves Crimea at some time in the future, the aftertaste of what has happened will linger forever.
 
I have nothing against the Russian people in general - I would be one of a very few on here to have actually visited your own home city, where I had a fantastic time, as I always have had in Russia - but what the Russian leadership has done to destabilise Ukraine over the last three months is totally unacceptable.  Putin's excuse for everything has been to supposedly protect the rights of Russian-speaking Ukrainians from all the bad things happening to them - it's strange how there have never been reports of any such discrimination in the past.
 
What I feel saddest about where this forum is concerned is that we've lost (at least for the moment) posters such as mendeleyev and boethius, and regular postings from the majority of the women members.  What has happened in Ukraine has turned members against each other for all the wrong reasons, and far too many seem to have jumped to one side of the fence or the other based simply on the nationality of themselves or their spouses.  There are also fights simply because poster A doesn't like poster B, and all that has happened in Ukraine has just been a convenient excuse for the bad behaviour which has followed.

[AkMike]

The way it is worded by some members is unacceptable.

 Since you apparently didn't see this,,    Once again,

WHY is this unacceptable???

[cc3]

Since you apparently didn't see this,,    Once again,

WHY is this unacceptable???

Because Russians believe in and support censorship.

[southernX]

another kiwi
 I have nothing against the Russian people in general - I would be one of a very few on here to have actually visited your own home city, where I had a fantastic time, as I always have had in Russia - but what the Russian leadership has done to destabilise Ukraine over the last three months is totally unacceptable.   

totally agree with you

we have family in both countrys ,
it is not the russian people who have earned the dislike and distrust of many people , but their government &president putin

given the media coverage of events , their is going to be a lot of justified negative commentary regarding russia amongst it ,

your gov/presidents actions have invited such commentary doll

im sure you are sick of it , but so are the average ukrainians who just wish the russian gov /president would stop his actions asap

try not to take it personaly , as im sure many here still think of russia & russians as good 
SX

[Chelseaboy]

Doll,

       The actions,lies and deceit of Putin and thereby Russia, in respect of the theft of Crimea from Ukraine,and subsequent destabilization of eastern Ukraine,and more importantly the overwhelming support of the Russian people in his actions,will make many foreign men VERY wary about starting, and in some cases,maintaining a relationship with a woman from Russia,now the mindset of Russian people can clearly be seen.

Foreign men will be considering how easy it will be to avoid the Putin zombies,although it can be seen from the postings on here,that some foreign men have the same affliction anyway..with their anti-west rants.

So,what has happened in Ukraine is very relevant to this forum.

[Photo Guy]

It is very relevant. We need to show Russians what the truth is. Western Ukraine is not a bunch of neo-Nazi fascists. Russian military is creating problems and divisions in eastern Ukraine. Putin is responsible for that. Russian people should see how their leader is killing people. Ukraine is not sending their military into Russia. Putin is sending his military and weapons into Ukraine. Now the world does not trust Putin and this will hurt the Russian people. People will be afraid to do business with Russia.

[lordtiberius]

Take it personal.  Russia is responsible.  This is your shame.  History already opposes you.  If you can't see that you have more problems than a small man in an I'll fitting suit from St. Petersburg.

Increase sanctions. Make Russia hurt.  Make Putin hurt. Ban botox!

[Doll]

Russian citizens need to ask themselves why Polish citizens have higher income than the average Russian citizen.

We don't need to ask anything.
For the 100th time- it is none of American business what is happening there. None.
 
Yes, i've been here for more than 10 years, but to call President "idiot"?
Look at the titles of some threads.
This forum is now anti-Russian propaganda.
It is very sickening.
Ok, admin wants problems-he will have them.

[Doll]

As for this being the "Russian Women Discussion" board, every male here knows that term encompasses women from all of the FSU countries where there are a large number of Russian speaking women, NOT just women from the nation of Russia. Frankly, with the mindless, automaton support for Putin, I could never be interested in a Russian citizen female.

Sir, I highlighted "women" and relationships.

[Dewed]

Unlike some countries, Americans often enjoy the freedom of speech other cultures do not have, and find offensive... They might think their president is an idiot, but to say it out loud, or type it in a public place?!?!?! 

So Doll.. are you saying you intend to sabotage this website because some of it's members do not think highly of president Putin and have the audacity to share their opinion?

Have you taken a look at Youtube lately ?

[Doll]

Dewed, I could teach you reading comprehension but it is just waste of time.
Amen.

[Dewed]

I'm just reading your post and asking you to clarify what you meant when you said ...

Ok, admin wants problems-he will have them.

[Manny]

Now the world does not trust Putin and this will hurt the Russian people. People will be afraid to do business with Russia.

Not really. Only America. Most of Europe has no issues with Russia.

[Anotherkiwi]

We don't need to ask anything.
For the 100th time- it is none of American business what is happening there. None.

I agree.  It is also none of Russia's business.  NONE.  So, President Putin, I'm asking nicely - please keep out of Ukraine's internal politics, and out of Ukraine.  Withdraw all your special forces operatives from eastern Ukraine, and let the citizens of Ukraine get on with their lives without the threat of invasion to "protect the rights of Russian speakers."

Oh, and get out of Crimea too, at least until after a PROPER referendum has been held - one which gives the option to remain part of Ukraine, and where the turnout isn't 123% of the eligible voting population.

[Manny]

Oh, and get out of Crimea too, at least until after a PROPER referendum has been held - one which gives the option to remain part of Ukraine, and where the turnout isn't 123% of the eligible voting population.

You might have missed the point that Crimea is now reunified with Russia.

Those who realise there is a viewpoint not espoused by Fox and CNN might want to spend a while reading this: Direct Line with Vladimir Putin. There he explains his motivations most clearly.

[Doll]

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/mar/02/david-ignatius/historical-claim-shows-why-crimea-matters-russia/
President Barack Obama has been vocal in his opposition to Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin’s military intervention in Ukraine. Focus has shifted from the new government in Kiev, Ukraine’s capital, to Crimea, a region Russian troops seized control of Saturday.
Meanwhile, politicians and pundits are divided over what the United States’ role should be in the conflict. Washington Post columnist David Ignatius criticized Putin’s actions on Face the Nation, saying Ukraine "is not prepared to go backwards" to a Russian regime. He then offered up some context about Crimea’s history.
"Crimea became part of Ukraine only in 1954," he said. "Crimea was historically part of Russia, and (Nikita) Khrushchev gave it to Ukraine in a gesture that mystified some people."
Ignatius was correct in saying that Ukraine has only controlled the Crimean Peninsula since 1954 -- a claim we also heard from U.S. Rep. Mike Roger, R-Mich., on Fox News Sunday. Not up on your Soviet history? We’ll review the facts.
Crimea is an eastern Ukrainian peninsula located on the Black Sea. It’s connected to the rest of the country by a small strip of land. Out of its 2 million residents, about 60 percent identify as Russian. That’s the highest concentration of Russian speakers in Ukraine. Although the territory belongs to Ukraine, Russia stations part of its Black Sea fleet in Sevastopol as part of a pre-existing agreement between the two countries.
As Ignatius pointed out, Crimea hasn’t always been part of Ukraine. Here’s a quick rundown of what’s happened in the region since the Ottoman Empire used the peninsula as a hub for slave trade.
 

• 1783: Russia annexed Crimea.
• 1853: The Crimean War began, lasting three years. Russia lost to an alliance of the Ottoman Empire, France, Britain and Sardinia. Crimea remained part of Russia.
• 1917: Crimea briefly became a sovereign state before becoming a base for the White Army of anti-Bolshevik forces in the Russian War.
• 1921: The peninsula, now called the Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, became part of the Soviet Union.
• 1942: Nazi Germany took control of Crimea.
• 1944: Joesph Stalin forcibly deported all Muslim Tatars, a group of 300,000 who had lived on the peninsula for centuries, due to members’ alleged cooperation with Germany during World War II. Many returned to Crimea in the 1980s and 1990s.
• 1945: After World War II, the autonomous Soviet republic was dissolved and Crimea became a province of the Soviet Union called the Crimean Oblast.
• 1954: Russian Premier Nikita Khrushchev transferred the Crimean Oblast to Ukraine. It’s often reported that it was a gesture of goodwill from Khrushchev, who had Ukrainian roots.
• 1991: The Soviet Union collapsed. Many expected President Boris Yeltsin, the new president of the Russian Federation, to take Crimea for Russia. But he didn’t bring it up during negotiations with Ukraine.
• 1997: Ukraine and Russia signed a treaty that allowed Russia to keep its fleet in Sevastopol. The agreement’s since been extended, so the fleet is set to remain there until at least 2042.

As for Ignatius’ claim that Khrushchev’s decision to give Crimea to Ukraine in 1954, we found literature to support that. Slate’s Joshua Keating offered up possible reasons for the land transfer, including the 300th anniversary of Ukraine’s merger with tsarist Russia and Khrushchev’s ties to Ukraine.
Though Khrushchev’s gesture had unclear motives, it didn’t seem like a problem for Russia at the time, only garnering a one-sentence write-up in the official Soviet newspaper. It became a bigger issue in the region once the Soviet Union collapsed decades later.
So the story of the Crimean Peninsula is long and complicated, to say the least. And there could be more news to come as war threatens Eastern Europe. Today, Crimea’s residents are divided on the issue of Russia’s military intervention. Generally speaking, ethnic Russians support Russia’s involvement in the region, while Tatars and Ukrainians express pro-Ukrainian sentiments.