Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.

[lordtiberius]

Just stop.

You're making things worse by talking.  Your smear the queer name calling and influencing peddling days are over here, Win-Win.  You quoted from Real Jew News - like what you posted was supposed to be funny.  How other people did not see that content was offensive is a mystery to me.

You're done.

It's about par for the course to come on here dismiss a well constructed argument, go on a drive by name calling streak and accuse others of what you yourself are doing.  Teenagers on 4chon do it.  Middle aged geezers do it here.  But posting anti-semitic smut, yeah.  Wow.

[Chelseaboy]

Fathertime,

                  Seems you're losing it there .

                 Your ignorance knows no limits..glad to see you've finally learnt the difference between a country and a Kingdom...not too bright are you ?

To further enhance your knowledge and show your foolishness,,i'm actually a reservist,so in the event of war i'd be called up.

Unlike you i don't hide behind children as an excuse for cowardice.

[Chelseaboy]

GQ,

         I see you're still droning on about ancient history,as a deflection against the current atrocities being carried out in Ukraine by pro -Russian separatists ..armed by your pals the Russians.

You've been unable to give a straight answer to my two simple questions,so i don't deem you worthy of any reply to any of your bygone ages questions.

Maybe you need to stop living in the past and wake up to present day reality.

[fathertime]

Fathertime,

                  Seems you're losing it there .

                 Your ignorance knows no limits..glad to see you've finally learnt the difference between a country and a Kingdom...not too bright are you ?

To further enhance your knowledge and show your foolishness,,i'm actually a reservist,so in the event of war i'd be called up.

Unlike you i don't hide behind children as an excuse for cowardice.

Yeah a nearing 60 year old reservist getting called up for the front lines….I simply don’t believe much of what you have said about yourself….it all sounds very self-serving. 
 
If you are soooo convicted and brave why aren’t you already there?  Why are you  pretending to be waiting to be ‘called up’?   You aren’t going anywhere and you know it….so we are back to you trying to get other people’s children to fight against ‘putin’  You actually don’t care much (if at all) if there is lots of dead Ukrainian bodies, just so long as Russia suffers. 

Just stop.

You're making things worse by talking.  Your smear the queer name calling and influencing peddling days are over here, Win-Win.  You quoted from Real Jew News - like what you posted was supposed to be funny.  How other people did not see that content was offensive is a mystery to me.

You're done.

It's about par for the course to come on here dismiss a well constructed argument, go on a drive by name calling streak and accuse others of what you yourself are doing.  Teenagers on 4chon do it.  Middle aged geezers do it here.  But posting anti-semitic smut, yeah.  Wow.

Don't forget to have your other persona(s) agree with you!  Your anti-Semitic rant is just you pretending to be 'offended'! i have no anti-antisemitism in me, you on the other hand...who knows?


Fathertime!   

[fathertime]

GQ,

         I see you're still droning on about ancient history,as a deflection against the current atrocities being carried out in Ukraine by pro -Russian separatists ..armed by your pals the Russians.

You've been unable to give a straight answer to my two simple questions,so i don't deem you worthy of any reply to any of your bygone ages questions.

Maybe you need to stop living in the past and wake up to present day reality.

I think it is YOU that is living in the past.  Why aren't you in Ukraine yet?  Chickenhawk. 


Fathertime!   

[lordtiberius]

FT, you are clueless.  I saw a lot of soldiers and reservists in Iraq of all ages.  So unless you been there and done that, keep your chickenhawk comments to yourself literally and preferably when looking in the mirror and o btw, I challenge the "Real Jew News" reader to quote anything antisemitic I have said here or anywhere on the web.

Show me or be quiet.

[fathertime]

FT, you are clueless.  I saw a lot of soldiers and reservists in Iraq of all ages.  So unless you been there and done that, keep your chickenhawk comments to yourself literally and preferably when looking in the mirror and o btw, I challenge the "Real Jew News" reader to quote anything antisemitic I have said here or anywhere on the web.

Show me or be quiet.

I believe you are another chickenhawk.  With all the whining you have done, you should have already been to Ukraine. You claim to still be young, so what are you waiting for?  Seems like all talk from you.   


Fathertime!   

[Chelseaboy]

Fathertime,

               

Your comments are once again idiotic in the extreme....are you going to pay my six figure salary ( that's in GBP by the way ) to replace my loss of income if i were to go and fight in Ukraine.?

If that's you in your avatar photo you need to grow up and act your age ...and stop making inane comments.


Interesting looking at our respective post counts..you actually post three times as much as i do..seems you're the one that needs to get a life,and maybe you're just a sad,old fantasist living alone.

I also notice you often post replies to comments directed toward GQ....before he replies....intriguing.

For someone claiming some posters on here have other persona,maybe you need to be looked at ..

[lordtiberius]

I have served my country in war.  How about you?  One of the men on this forum served his country by taking ROTC classes, have you even done?  If you have done none of these things, why are you accusing others of being a chicken hawk? 

[fathertime]

I have served my country in war.  How about you?  One of the men on this forum served his country by taking ROTC classes, have you even done?  If you have done none of these things, why are you accusing others of being a chicken hawk?

I believe you are a chickenhawk as you are sitting on your rear end trying to get other people's children involved in a conflict we have no business in.  I firmly hold that this is not our battle to escalate.  I further hold, you have zero moral authority over anyone else here, if anything maybe a little less.


Fathertime!   

[AnonMod]

Move your arguments, which are irrelevant to the topic, to NHB.  Any further off topic posts will be deleted.

For the record, posting with multiple identifications is not permitted on the forum.  IP addresses are examined.  If anyone has evidence that a poster is using multiple identifications, please report the poster, and the multiple handles, to the moderator staff.  Proxies can be detected.  If you are not willing to report multiple identities to the mod staff, do not make unfounded accusations.

[AnonMod]

I have moved the last post in the thread, so you can continue your off topic conversation.

[Doll]

The world has too many problems right now in too many places.

The citizens of USA and the government of USA are tired of all these problems and don't want to get further involved.  The same goes for the western European countries.

Our current time has given Putin a huge opportunity and he is taking it.  Putin and Russia will end up keeping all territory that they want to, and all sanctions against Russia will be lifted.  The world will let out a sigh of relief that it is over, except for the citizens of Ukraine and the families who have lost loved ones.

 

What do "the citizens of USA and the government of USA " have to do with the conflict?

[LiveFromUkraine]

What do "the citizens of USA and the government of USA " have to do with the conflict?

They shouldn't but unfortunately our government likes to meddle into the affairs of other nations while crying injustice when other countries do the same. 


I think most citizens are against such actions but our government really isn't "for the people" any longer.  Then again I could be wrong, there seems to be plenty of people here who have no problem with meddling as long as they think it is the best for the people.   Very arrogant line of thinking if you ask me.

[GQBlues]

They shouldn't but unfortunately our government likes to meddle into the affairs of other nations while crying injustice when other countries do the same...

Like Syria, for instance. The US have no problem flying in and out of any country's territory and airspace without any proper approval - and sometimes bombing and killing its citizens (Libya) - but sanctions anyone else who do the same.

DC is about to embark in arming a terrorist group fighting against a democratically elected government of a sovereign nation (Syria), in the guise of aiding a group who are at odds with ISIS without so much as getting any resolution through the UN; but is benevolent in their condemnation of Russia's alleged intervention in Ukraine, or anyone else for that matter.

We were all led to believe these (conflicts) are the reasons why we need the United Nations.

[LiveFromUkraine]

Like Syria, for instance. The US have no problem flying in and out of any country's territory and airspace without any proper approval - and sometimes bombing and killing its citizens (Libya) - but sanctions anyone else who do the same.

From recollection, the US did the same in Pakistan with drones.  I believe they killed an American there without due justice afforded to him as a US citizen.

[Doll]

Live , it is none of Us business.

[GQBlues]

Sure...Somalia and a host of other African nation not favored by Washington. Your liberal talking heads will convince you it is because of our generous attitudes and we just want to spread love and democracy everywhere even if it means it's a direct violation of international law to intervene, unauthorized entry of sovereign airspace, assassinations of heads of state, citizens (yes, even our own)...

but my oh-my, don't let anyone else be caught doing that or we'll sanction and punish your population and close all our McDonald's and KFCs..

[GQBlues]

Live , it is none of Us business.

So what? For the US, that doesn't mean anything. We do what we want, whenever and to whomever...

[Doll]

. Your liberal talking heads will convince you it is because of our generous attitudes and we just want to spread love and democracy everywhere even if it means it's a direct violation of international law to intervene, unauthorized entry of sovereign airspace, assassinations of heads of state, citizens (yes, even our own)...

but my oh-my, don't let anyone else be caught doing that or we'll sanction and punish your population and close all our McDonald's and KFCs..

+500

[Doll]

but my oh-my, don't let anyone else be caught doing that or we'll sanction and punish your population and close all our McDonald's and KFCs..

Ha-Ha, I don't know how Russia will survive without MD or KFC
 

[Doll]

So what? For the US, that doesn't mean anything. We do what we want, whenever and to whomever...

except for doing it for Russia.
US tells Russia where and when it can move its troops.
It is like Russia will tell Us to not move troops in Texas.
haha

[GQBlues]

except for doing it for Russia. US tells Russia where and when it can move its troops.
It is like Russia will tell Us to not move troops in Texas. haha

Well, in defense of my humble Apple Pie, we live in a very fickle world. You have morons screaming "Warmongers'! No Blood for Oil!" silliness when we get involved in conflicts we shouldn't be. But these same morons will be the first to piss in their pants if the US decided NOT to join a conflict and if the conflict happens to be within their sphere of interest or concern. 

It's tough to be 'great'. Trust me, I know that personally. 

[Doll]

true

[LiveFromUkraine]

Live , it is none of Us business.

The US has to do these things because of national security and to protect it's citizens.  Does any of those excuses sound familiar?