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Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« on: December 24, 2014, 01:14:15 PM »
WASHINGTON • There could be an unlikely contributor to the decline of marriage in this country. And it’s free pornography on the Internet.

A U.S. team of researchers, who published their findings in The Institute for the Study of Labor (IZA) in Germany, determined that the rise of free Internet pornography is not only correlated with a pronounced decline in percentage of young adult males who are married, but might actually be contributing to the trend.

“The results in this paper suggest that such an association exists, and that it is potentially quite large,” the study notes.

The researchers used data from the General Social Survey, a comprehensive, nationally representative survey, to analyze how 18-to-35 year-old men used the Internet between 2000 and 2004. They focused on how many hours each participant spent on the Internet per week, and how many reported having used the Internet to view pornography in the past 30 days, but also observed other activities, including the use of religious websites.“We asked ourselves, what is helping determine whether people are married or not?” said Michael Malcolm, a professor at the University of West Chester, Pa., and one of the study’s authors. “One of those things, we thought, could be the use of pornography.”

To test the hypothesis, Malcolm adjusted for a number of variables, including age, income, education, religiosity and employment, all of which have been shown to correlate with marriage. He also adjusted for the possibility marriage has an impact on pornography use, and never the other way around.

He then measured the correlation between pornography use and marriage rates among the more than 1,500 participants studied.

Broadly, higher Internet usage was associated with lower marriage rates. But pornography use in particular was more closely linked to those participants who were not married than any other form of Internet use, including regular use of financial websites, news websites, sports websites, and several others. The opposite, for comparison, was true for religious website use, which was positively correlated with marriage.

The natural reaction might be to dismiss the findings as confirmations of an obviousness: that men who are married tend to look at porn less frequently precisely because they are married. While that might very well be true, and likely helps explain some of the relationship, it doesn’t explain all of it.

The researchers, while careful to say that their findings fall short of being conclusive, insist that the relationship between the two also “likely runs in the direction that we assert.”

The reason, Malcolm explains, is likely tied to the relationship between marriage and sexual gratification. If pornography is viewed as a means of alternative sexual gratification, then it could be undercutting the need for marriages to serve this function, at the very least during a younger age. Think of it as a milder form of premarital sex.

The decline of marriage in the United States is well-documented. Marriage rates have been falling for decades. Divorce rates, while leveling off, are still historically high. Even those couples who are still tying the knot are doing so later and later as time passes.

There are many reasons for the trend. One of the most provocative is the rise of wealth inequality. Andrew J. Cherlin made this point in a recent op-ed in The New York Times: Historically, low and stable inequality has coincided with periods of higher marriage rates among all socioeconomic groups. Marriage can be an expensive institution, especially without two sustainable sources of income. It’s likely of little coincidence that the United States is particularly unequal today, and its poor are particularly less likely to marry than the rich.

Some have argued that a decline in traditional values has made marriage less of a priority than it once was. The country is certainly less religious today than it has been in the past, and religious people do tend to get married more often, and younger.

Another, albeit much less central issue, could be the proliferation of free pornography. Between 2009 and 2010, erotic content accounted for roughly 13% of all Internet searches, according to Forbes. In addition, a 2008 study found that nearly 90 percent of men think it’s acceptable. It might be time to dive a bit deeper into how the societal shift is influencing things happening beyond all the closed doors.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/12/24/free-porn-could-be-to-blame-for-decline-in-u-s-marriage-rates-researchers-say/
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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2014, 01:23:26 PM »
The function of marriage as entrance to sexual intercourse is what needs to be re-adressed. As marriage is no longer seen as necessary for reproduction, its added value in a relaionship needs to shift attention.

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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2014, 02:12:58 PM »
If a guy is somewhat addicted to porn and he has deep pockets to pay for his fetish I suggest that he goes to China and gets a concubine.  It's a traditional method for a guy to get what he wants sexually out of a woman without having to pay for her after she leaves (I've read that the average contract is for 6 months to 1 year).

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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2014, 02:22:13 PM »
If a guy is somewhat addicted to porn and he has deep pockets to pay for his fetish I suggest that he goes to China and gets a concubine.  It's a traditional method for a guy to get what he wants sexually out of a woman without having to pay for her after she leaves (I've read that the average contract is for 6 months to 1 year).
Is watching porn a fetish?
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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2014, 02:23:42 PM »
Is watching porn a fetish?


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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2014, 02:24:43 PM »
Is watching porn a fetish?

I don't know, however I did not mean it in that way.  What I meant to say is that a guy with deep enough pockets could make his porn fantasies become a reality, by getting a concubine in China.

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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2014, 02:26:00 PM »
Remember, these are the Puritan States of America.

Don't be fooled by that statement.  A woman only claims to be pure when she is in divorce court.   ;)

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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2014, 02:57:48 PM »
I don't know, however I did not mean it in that way.  What I meant to say is that a guy with deep enough pockets could make his porn fantasies become a reality, by getting a concubine in China.
A guy with deep enough pockets could buy one in the Middle East, Africa or probably even the USA.
Question is what to do if he does not have deep pockets?
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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2014, 04:00:36 PM »
A guy with deep enough pockets could buy one in the Middle East, Africa or probably even the USA.
Question is what to do if he does not have deep pockets?

Watch some porn? 
« Last Edit: December 24, 2014, 04:05:40 PM by AC »

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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2014, 05:30:36 PM »
WASHINGTON • There could be an unlikely contributor to the decline of marriage in this country. And it’s free pornography on the Internet.

 
I guess that first line of the story is just trying to suck people into the story, because I don't think it is at all surprising that free porn would contribute to less marriages.



There are many reasons for the trend. One of the most provocative is the rise of wealth inequality. Andrew J. Cherlin made this point in a recent op-ed in The New York Times: Historically, low and stable inequality has coincided with periods of higher marriage rates among all socioeconomic groups. Marriage can be an expensive institution, especially without two sustainable sources of income. It’s likely of little coincidence that the United States is particularly unequal today, and its poor are particularly less likely to marry than the rich.
 
It is interesting that they mentioned how unequal things are these days, more so than the recent past generations. 


Unmarried couples can reap the system for more freebies/goodies if they remain unmarried. 


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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2014, 08:49:24 PM »
It would be interesting to see the results of the same  survey among women of the same age group..there are always two sides to a story.

There have been a few stories in the media here about women being addicted to porn,with one young beauty actually dying from a heart attack while watching porn and using a sex-aid.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2014, 08:53:17 PM by Chelseaboy »
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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2014, 09:17:16 PM »
Porn is destroying our culture.  But let's be fair, the institution of marriage and family got no favors from Western feminists.

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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2014, 11:31:47 PM »
It would be interesting to see the results of the same  survey among women of the same age group..there are always two sides to a story.

There have been a few stories in the media here about women being addicted to porn,with one young beauty actually dying from a heart attack while watching porn and using a sex-aid.

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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2014, 12:50:05 AM »
When you modify the incentives and dis-incentives for a particular action (like marriage), then, people adapt to it.

Guys are looking around at what is available, and what the likelihood of happines is, and deciding against it.

That the latest SJW fad is "domestic financial abuse" which means if you try to keep a spendthrift wife from getting you into intractable debt, you are "abusing" her, increase the dis-incentive even more. 

See Kerry Washington's "Purple Purse" campaign ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2yy7d3uf7qw

Porn is a sympton, not a cause; at least among the guys I know, if a woman they are attracted to is available, they will happily skip the porn.
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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2014, 08:04:39 AM »
I do not believe that free porn contributes much to the decline of marriages.


In my opinion, the main contributors are the decline in women's urge to have kids, the increase in women's financial independence, and the social acceptance of  sexual relationship without marriage.


A study conducted in London found that as woman's IQ goes up, her desire to have kids goes down. A few decades ago, 10% of women chose to be child-free,  now it is 20%, and if we consider only women with advanced degrees, the % goes up to 40%.


Before it was shameful to have sexual relation without marriage, not anymore. 


I believe many men have the same attitude toward marriage as they had before when porn was not free. it is women who have changed their attitude toward marriages. 
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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2014, 08:45:30 AM »
I agree with you vwrw.

Young women are becoming far more independent-minded now in general.

They're thinking more and more like errr....young men now....career orientated,make money,no kids,have fun.

Also,in the UK,even young women who do have kids see no need to get married..when the state will give them free or subsidized housing,plenty of benefits,with no need to work if they choose....although the state is starting to tighten-up on that at last.
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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2014, 08:55:58 AM »
I agree with you vwrw.

Young women are becoming far more independent-minded now in general.

They're thinking more and more like errr....young men now....career orientated,make money,no kids,have fun.
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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2014, 10:09:48 AM »
A woman who has a child to love and take care of is one of the happiest and most fulfilled women in the World.  No amount of money, fame or career achievement can replace the deep peace and happiness which a good mother feels.  However because of the "feminist" movement itself millions of women never knew this happiness.

The natural harmony and happiness of a woman who lives within the harmony and peace of Mother Nature can never be replaced by artificial means, and money itself is an artificial illusion.

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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2014, 10:46:31 AM »
When you modify the incentives and dis-incentives for a particular action (like marriage), then, people adapt to it.

Guys are looking around at what is available, and what the likelihood of happines is, and deciding against it.

That the latest SJW fad is "domestic financial abuse" which means if you try to keep a spendthrift wife from getting you into intractable debt, you are "abusing" her, increase the dis-incentive even more. 

See Kerry Washington's "Purple Purse" campaign ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2yy7d3uf7qw

Porn is a sympton, not a cause; at least among the guys I know, if a woman they are attracted to is available, they will happily skip the porn.


These are relevant points.  Ultimately there are a variety of factors that contribute to both men and women losing interest in marriage.   Less money, less freedom, more conflict, boredom, are all things you hear people say.  Those factors have to be balanced with the positives which some would say are children, companionship, laughter together.   It certainly depends on what individuals find important for their personal tastes.


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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2014, 10:54:37 AM »
A woman who has a child to love and take care of is one of the happiest and most fulfilled women in the World. 


Depends on the woman.   Some women don't want children.  In previous generations, they had them because of societal pressure.  Now, that pressure does not exist.  Women (and men) should not have children if they don't want them.  It is not an ideal environment for a child.
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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2014, 10:57:46 AM »
A woman who has a child to love and take care of is one of the happiest and most fulfilled women in the World.  No amount of money, fame or career achievement can replace the deep peace and happiness which a good mother feels.  However because of the "feminist" movement itself millions of women never knew this happiness.

The natural harmony and happiness of a woman who lives within the harmony and peace of Mother Nature can never be replaced by artificial means, and money itself is an artificial illusion.


Although it is easy to romanticize having children, I am pretty sure for some quite a few women having children is a not a pleasant experience.  I think the reality is that many women are happy being childless.


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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2014, 11:23:11 AM »

Although it is easy to romanticize having children, I am pretty sure for some quite a few women having children is a not a pleasant experience.  I think the reality is that many women are happy being childless.


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There were a few studies that measure the degree of pleasure that women who are taking care of their kids feel. The studies seem to agree that taking care of kids is not that enjoyable. I attached a pic showing how happy are women when they are doing various things. Even grocery shopping makes many women more happy  then being with their kids.


The full report on the findings is here
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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2014, 12:22:13 PM »

Depends on the woman.   Some women don't want children.  In previous generations, they had them because of societal pressure

I agree that it may depend on the woman, I am making a generalization.  In relation to societal pressure in the West, there is scorn for traditional mothers and pressure for a woman to have a career to the detriment of a possible family life.  The pendulum swung too far in one direction.

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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2014, 12:29:36 PM »
No, I think there is still pressure on women to have children.  A woman who does not have children is considered abnormal and selfish.
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Re: Free Porn Contributing Factor in Decline of Marriage
« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2014, 12:47:07 PM »
No, I think there is still pressure on women to have children.  A woman who does not have children is considered abnormal and selfish.
And while men can not have children without women, rightfully so.
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