RUSSIA-The Future 2015 & on

[fathertime]

Not only did LFU show up just in the nick of time to try to help you out, but I notice that both of you put the ROFL before whatever statement you are trying to make.  Very interesting, as I don't think that any other poster do it in that odd way...

Maybe we are one in the same!  Maybe you should be calling LFU General from now on, if he gives you permission!   


Fathertime! 

[JayH]

Nobody cares what you are convinced of.  To put it politely you have severe comprehension problems, which has been adequately illustrated by your exchanges with poster Boethius and Gator, among others.

AC--recall my post that this little collective of Putinistas as they attempt  to hijack and personalise every thread in an attempt to divert the topic or discussion when it gets a bit too close to the bone -- and especially are active now-- ignore them.

[lordtiberius]

as I don't think that any other poster do it in that odd way...

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/schmitts-gay/n10163

[lordtiberius]

Maybe we are one in the same!  Maybe you should be calling LFU General from now on, if he gives you permission!   


Fathertime!

Not even Doll would right something this not smart

[LiveFromUkraine]

Not even Doll would right something this not smart

Hmm, interesting.   AC writes "you are your alter-ego are" and now you wrote the above quote.  It's like you both are the same Russian spy jealous of FT's high station.

[fathertime]

Not even Doll would right something this not smart

So then it is clear that this Russian General, and Professional Russian Blogger isn't also Doll...It is good that we have eliminated that possibility!  It could be that I have a strong different opinion, but that would be too boring!   


Fathertime!   

[lordtiberius]

Hmm, interesting.   AC writes "you are your alter-ego are" and now you wrote the above quote.  It's like you both are the same Russian spy jealous of FT's high station.

I never accused you two clowns of being the same person.  FT laughs at dead bodies where you are a humorless know it all.  A slight distinction, but all the makings of a fine romance . . .

[AC]

Hmm, interesting.   AC writes "you are your alter-ego are" and now you wrote the above quote.  It's like you both are the same Russian spy jealous of FT's high station.

I'm pretty sure that we don't live in the same state.  Yet I suspect that you do live in the same state as fathertime.  Now that's convenient, isn't it "LivefromtheKremlin"?

Furthermore, why would you write fathertimes "high station"?  I never wrote that, just like I never wrote that he was a "Russian" General (I only wrote General).  Interesting how you guys match and mirror each other.

[LiveFromUkraine]

I never accused you two clowns of being the same person.  FT laughs at dead bodies where you are a humorless know it all.  A slight distinction, but all the makings of a fine romance . . .

Did the voices in your head tell you to write that?

[Doll]

Not even Doll would right something this not smart

Very doubtful compliment 

[fathertime]

 

I never accused you two clowns of being the same person.  FT laughs at dead bodies where you are a humorless know it all.  A slight distinction, but all the makings of a fine romance . . .

Hmmmm, I don't recall laughing at dead bodies (another imaginative post by you), perhaps you can recall those moments we shared together.  I'm for ending the crisis with as few dead as possible, but I continue to hold that more Western interference will make things many many times worse...It seems to me that you are the bloodthirsty one.


Fathertime!   

[fathertime]

I'm pretty sure that we don't live in the same state.  Yet I suspect that you do live in the same state as fathertime.  Now that's convenient, isn't it "LivefromtheKremlin"?

Furthermore, why would you write fathertimes "high station"?  I never wrote that, just like I never wrote that he was a "Russian" General (I only wrote General).  Interesting how you guys match and mirror each other.

So you only think I'm a General now, and not a Russian General...how disappointing. 


Fathertime!   

[LiveFromUkraine]

I'm pretty sure that we don't live in the same state.  Yet I suspect that you do live in the same state as fathertime.  Now that's convenient, isn't it "LivefromtheKremlin"?

Things are getting creepy now.  AC seems to know where FT lives.  Stalker much?

Furthermore, why would you write fathertimes "high station"?  I never wrote that, just like I never wrote that he was a "Russian" General (I only wrote General).  Interesting how you guys match and mirror each other.

Well he obviously isn't a Ukrainian General being  a supposedly Russian apologist.  Dang, AC, that is like a duh moment there.

[LiveFromUkraine]

Hmmmm, I don't recall laughing at dead bodies (another imaginative post by you), perhaps you can recall those moments we shared together.  I'm for ending the crisis with as few dead as possible, but I continue to hold that more Western interference will make things many many times worse...It seems to me that you are the bloodthirsty one.


Fathertime!   

ha!  I think you quoted the wrong bloodthirsty person.   

[JayH]

The announcement comes just hours after President Obama refused to rule out providing weapons to Ukraine if diplomatic efforts between Russia and other world powers fail.

In a joint press conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Obama said he had asked his team to “look at all the options” that could change Russian President Vladimir Putin’s behavior toward Ukraine.

However, no decision on arms has been made, and there is no “specific point” that would greenlight giving Ukraine weapons.

Last week, Portman and Durbin led a bipartisan group of 15 senators in a letter to the president urging him to provide weapons to Kiev.


Senators launch Ukraine Caucus


Sens. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) are launching the Senate Ukraine Caucus to boost ties between Washington and Kiev.

The move comes as pressure grows on the Obama administration to supply lethal weapons to Ukraine's military to counter pro-Russian separatist groups backed by Moscow.


The “key focus” of the brand new Senate Ukraine Caucus “will be to play a prominent role in advocating for and coordinating more robust American efforts to support Ukraine,” Portman said in a statement.
“In the face of continued Russian aggression in the region and repeated assaults on the sovereignty of its borders, Ukraine needs a steadfast ally in the United States,” Durbin, the Senate’s No. 2 Democrat, added.

“This bipartisan group sends a clear message that Ukraine has the unflinching support of the Ukrainian community in Illinois and in the United States Senate."
http://thehill.com/policy/defense/232192-senators-launch-ukraine-caucus

[fathertime]

ha!  I think you quoted the wrong bloodthirsty person.   

Duhhhhh whoops sorry about that...the General was trying to Blog and post at the same time I was commanding Russian troops 


Fathertime!   

[lordtiberius]

Did the voices in your head tell you to write that?

Come meet me and find out or are you just an over the internet insulter?

[AC]

It appears you care quite a bit...again given your own logic regarding small hands=Putin bluff...and my posts equate to being Russian General Fathertime...it doesn't bode well for much else you can say!


Don't blame me about the Budapest memo....I don't make those calls, but I do support some of the steps we have taken and the ones he haven't.

"the ones he haven't".  Okay, that made a lot of sense.  As far as the Budapest Memorandum goes, you can keep trying to discount it, and I will keep bringing it up.  Honorable nations honor the treaties which they sign.  We know that Russia is not an honorable nation, and we know that you are 5 beers short of a 6-pack.  That said I already answered your post above, but here it is again. 

OMG!  The Russian apologist strikes again!  First of all those lives do matter and massive war would not be risked.  Putin is a small man with small hands, small feet and a small d*&^.  He would be crapping his pants if his underperforming military had to go head to head with the US military and NATO.

Equally important to the lives in the area is the concept that European borders are sacrosanct, at least they have been until now per International Law after WWII.  One reason WWII was fought was to put an end to bullies like Hitler redrawing the map.  It's really more than the lives initially lost, it's the sacredness of keeping borders as they are and therefore keeping peace throughout all of Europe. 

As a principal it is worth fighting for.  If not then when will it end?  It won't end there, because all the bad actors on the World stage are watching.  What the USA does or does not do has huge consequences not only for Ukraine, but for the whole world.  Maybe that's why Nuland said F*&^ the EU; because they don't have the balls to stand up for what is sacred.

[lordtiberius]

Hmmmm, I don't recall laughing at dead bodies (another imaginative post by you), perhaps you can recall those moments we shared together.  I'm for ending the crisis with as few dead as possible, but I continue to hold that more Western interference will make things many many times worse...It seems to me that you are the bloodthirsty one.


Fathertime!   

We have seen the stacks of bodies from the Russian influence you esteem so well.  You are not interested in debate but just insults.  So go right ahead.  Take the first punch . . .

[lordtiberius]

Things are getting creepy now.  AC seems to know where FT lives.  Stalker much?


Well he obviously isn't a Ukrainian General being  a supposedly Russian apologist.  Dang, AC, that is like a duh moment there.

boring

[AC]

Things are getting creepy now.  AC seems to know where FT lives.  Stalker much?

Being observant is not stalking.  You should try it on occasion, your posts might get more rational instead of the usual deflection and other assorted idiocy.

[fathertime]

"the ones he haven't".  Okay, that made a lot of sense.  As far as the Budapest Memorandum goes, you can keep trying to discount it, and I will keep bringing it up.  Honorable nations honor the treaties which they sign.  We know that Russia is not an honorable nation, and we know that you are 5 beers short of a 6-pack.   

Continue bringing it up then...clearly the leaders in Europe and the USA , and Russia, aren't too concerned about it!  So now I'm a Russian General, A paid Russian blogger, and 5 beers short of a 6-pack....all because I have a differing *yet valid* viewpoint, close to the same one that many of the leaders of the Western world appear to have.  Don't blame me...ohh what the hell go ahead and blame me!   


Fathertime! 

[LiveFromUkraine]

Come meet me and find out or are you just an over the internet insulter?

You come to me if you want to find out. 

[fathertime]

We have seen the stacks of bodies from the Russian influence you esteem so well.  You are not interested in debate but just insults.  So go right ahead.  Take the first punch . . .

Punch?  I will not punch you?  I've been willing to discuss with numerous members here my reasoning in why I feel the way I do...but I've learned not to take your postings too seriously, you always wind up damaging your own cause, so I guess I should just get out of your way, and let you.  There are other members who I can engage with on a more serious level. 


Fathertime!   

[lordtiberius]

Whatever dude. . . you cannot answer simple questions about your own positions.  So play the victim card while you attack others.  Very Russian of you . . .

This is not a debate anymore. It's a Novorossiya name calling sesh.  Ask moderators split off this thread.  Warnings to usual Novorossiya suspects warranted.