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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #50 on: February 13, 2015, 10:25:14 AM »
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #51 on: February 13, 2015, 10:27:48 AM »
Doll,

       You remind me of one of those women that write love letters to convicted murderers and rapists in prisons.

It's quite embarrassing to see your continued fawning and hero worship of Putin....even to the extent that you have to keep posting photos of him LOL.
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #52 on: February 13, 2015, 10:54:32 AM »
Quote from: Boethius on February 13, 2015, 08:49:18 AM
He is evil personified.


Who do you think will be the first to break the cease fire? I believe that it will be Poroshenko (or whoever replaces him) because he will feel that he lost on Minsk 2 and will want to prove something.
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #53 on: February 13, 2015, 11:13:07 AM »
Quote from: Steamer on February 13, 2015, 10:54:32 AM

Who do you think will be the first to break the cease fire? I believe that it will be Poroshenko (or whoever replaces him) because he will feel that he lost on Minsk 2 and will want to prove something.

You are a political neophyte if you think Poroshenko is going to be overthrown in the next few months.  Stop drinking the Kool Aid.
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #54 on: February 13, 2015, 11:26:35 AM »
Quote from: Chelseaboy on February 13, 2015, 10:27:48 AM
Doll,

       You remind me of one of those women that write love letters to convicted murderers and rapists in prisons.

It's quite embarrassing to see your continued fawning and hero worship of Putin....even to the extent that you have to keep posting photos of him LOL.
Just for you- it is MY country and I am not selling it.
What part don't you understand? You are not American, you can think.
Do you understand "Motherland"? No matter what.

( I absolutely don't care what or whom I remind to anybody here)
« Last Edit: February 13, 2015, 11:43:55 AM by Doll »
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #55 on: February 13, 2015, 11:27:15 AM »
Quote from: Steamer on February 13, 2015, 10:54:32 AM

Who do you think will be the first to break the cease fire? I believe that it will be Poroshenko (or whoever replaces him) because he will feel that he lost on Minsk 2 and will want to prove something.
Agree
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #56 on: February 13, 2015, 11:31:28 AM »
Quote from: Doll on February 13, 2015, 11:27:15 AM
Agree

The 'sepratists' continually broke the last ceasefire, and they will break this one too.  Poroshenko has absolutely no reason not to maintain peace.
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #57 on: February 13, 2015, 11:37:21 AM »
Quote from: Doll on February 13, 2015, 08:51:27 AM
Украинский президент Петр Порошенко осмотрел в пятницу, 13 февраля, представленную военную технику украинского и иностранного производства. Об этом сообщает пресс-служба главы государства. Речь идет о британских бронированных автомобилях Saxon, специализированных машинах скорой помощи, средствах противобатарейной борьбы, радиоразведки, беспилотных летательных аппаратов и машин управления.

«Глава государства отметил, что вся техника должна быть направлена в зону проведения АТО [антитеррористической операции] быстрее», – говорится в сообщении пресс-службы украинского президента.

Порошенко вновь прокомментировал прошедшие в Минске переговоры в «нормандском формате» с участием лидеров России, Украины, Германии и Франции. «Твердой уверенности, что минские договоренности будут работать, нет ни у кого. Но особенностью вчерашних договоренностей является то, что переговоры проводились не в рамках трехсторонней контактной группы, а непосредственно президентами Украины, Франции, канцлером ФРГ и президентом России», – отметил он.

На фоне этого заявления украинский лидер также подчеркнул, что украинские военные будут иметь высокий уровень обеспечения. «Время пренебрежения обороноспособностью государства ушло в прошлое. Защитник страны будет обеспечен всем необходимым для победы», – пояснил он.



http://top.rbc.ru/politics/13/02/2015/54de06689a79479ef1f8d6f4
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #58 on: February 13, 2015, 11:47:48 AM »
Quote from: Chelseaboy on February 13, 2015, 10:27:48 AM
Doll,

       You remind me of one of those women that write love letters to convicted murderers and rapists in prisons.

It's quite embarrassing to see your continued fawning and hero worship of Putin....even to the extent that you have to keep posting photos of him LOL.
So, you are embarrassed by pics and NOT embarrassed by bullying 2 or 3 Russian board members? None of us were rude , none called others names , none labeled.
Go back and read my and Belvis's posts.
BTW I post Putin's pics just to tease, you didn't get it.
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #59 on: February 13, 2015, 11:48:40 AM »
Quote from: Изумруд on February 13, 2015, 11:31:28 AM
The 'sepratists' continually broke the last ceasefire, and they will break this one too.  Poroshenko has absolutely no reason not to maintain peace.

I agree.  Ukraine did not break the last ceasefire, the terrorists did, and they are shelling right now.  I expect that they will break this one as well.
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #60 on: February 13, 2015, 11:50:18 AM »
Chealsey, for you (with love) :D
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #61 on: February 13, 2015, 11:52:54 AM »
I agree Bo.

Ukraine has everything to win by keeping the truce.  What would be the purpose for violating it? 

It would appear that Russia is trying to eliminate the pocket in Debal'tasave and push towards Mariupol prior to the truce taking hold.  Absent that, I would doubt very much if they will allow a truce to occur without those possessions.
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #62 on: February 13, 2015, 11:53:34 AM »
Who wants more?  :D


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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #63 on: February 13, 2015, 11:53:43 AM »
Quote from: Изумруд on February 13, 2015, 11:31:28 AM
The 'sepratists' continually broke the last ceasefire, and they will break this one too.  Poroshenko has absolutely no reason not to maintain peace.


When Poroshenko tries to sell Minsk2 to the rest of Ukraine there's going to be a lot of unhappy people because no one likes to lose and they will blame him. If he survives that he will be under tremendous pressure to correct this. All Putin has to do is play it cool and not be the first to break the cease fire. This will make Poroshenko the aggressor and will give Putin the green light for any and all responses. This will be War2.
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #64 on: February 13, 2015, 11:54:04 AM »
Quote from: Doll on February 13, 2015, 11:26:35 AM
Just for you- it is MY country and I am not selling it.


You can't sell something that is utterly worthless Doll.  :wallbash:
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #65 on: February 13, 2015, 11:55:35 AM »
Quote from: Steamer on February 13, 2015, 11:53:43 AM

When Poroshenko tries to sell Minsk2 to the rest of Ukraine there's going to be a lot of unhappy people because no one likes to lose and they will blame him. If he survives that he will be under tremendous pressure to correct this. All Putin has to do is play it cool and not be the first to break the cease fire. This will make Poroshenko the aggressor and will give Putin the green light for any and all responses. This will be War2.

Let's play this post back in two weeks and see where we are......    :rolleyes: :popcorn: :rolleyes:
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #66 on: February 13, 2015, 11:56:41 AM »
Quote from: Steamer on February 13, 2015, 11:53:43 AM

When Poroshenko tries to sell Minsk2 to the rest of Ukraine there's going to be a lot of unhappy people because no one likes to lose and they will blame him. If he survives that he will be under tremendous pressure to correct this. All Putin has to do is play it cool and not be the first to break the cease fire. This will make Poroshenko the aggressor and will give Putin the green light for any and all responses. This will be War2.

Untrue.  The majority of Ukrainians do not want war.   They don't want to send their sons, brothers, and husbands, to fight, but it has been a necessity.

What, exactly, have they lost?  Russia did not get the major concession they wanted, a veto over Ukraine's foreign policy.  Neither side is fully happy with this deal, which is a good sign, although I do think the terrorists will break it, in any event.  I hope I am wrong on that point.
 
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #67 on: February 13, 2015, 11:59:56 AM »
Quote from: Steamer on February 13, 2015, 10:54:32 AM

Who do you think will be the first to break the cease fire? I believe that it will be Poroshenko (or whoever replaces him)

Care to put your money where your mouth is?
Ring up the bookies in Vegas to see what odds you can get for that and then throw down a 30 grand bet...
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #68 on: February 13, 2015, 12:02:51 PM »
Quote from: sleepycat on February 13, 2015, 11:54:04 AM
You can't sell something that is utterly worthless Doll.  :wallbash:
It is a figurative expression. Want me to explain what is implied?

Worthless? HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
The best country with best people is RUSSIA.
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #69 on: February 13, 2015, 12:06:47 PM »
sorry guys- wrong map
here is the newest

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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #70 on: February 13, 2015, 12:07:37 PM »
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The best country with best people is RUSSIA.

There is no such thing as a "best country" or a "best people".   However, I will say, my better half always says that Canada is structured in a way that things are made for the convenience of the people.  Not so in Russia, or Ukraine.
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #71 on: February 13, 2015, 12:10:44 PM »
Quote from: sleepycat on February 13, 2015, 11:59:56 AM
Care to put your money where your mouth is?
Ring up the bookies in Vegas to see what odds you can get for that and then throw down a 30 grand bet...


Not too sure of yourself eh? I just stapled a check for $100,000 to this post.
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Hopefully one of you cruds didn't steal it.
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #72 on: February 13, 2015, 12:11:22 PM »
Quote from: Doll on February 13, 2015, 11:37:21 AM
FOR IZUMRUD

There are far more reliable sources.
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #73 on: February 13, 2015, 12:17:52 PM »
Quote from: Изумруд on February 13, 2015, 12:11:22 PM
There are far more reliable sources.
They refer to Poroshenko's sources.
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Re: Minsk, round two
« Reply #74 on: February 13, 2015, 12:20:49 PM »
Quote from: Изумруд on February 13, 2015, 12:11:22 PM
There are far more reliable sources.
Is THIS one reliable for you?
Enjoy

http://www.president.gov.ua/ru/news/?cat=1
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