Questions FROM Russian Woman :)

[GatoMoon]

, or like 100-200 $ to send to her family that's okay?

Did your ex-Russian boyfriend give 100-200$ to your family ?????  So, why should Western men be different ???

[Gator]

How so ?

Angle of incident sunlight varies with latitude, yes?  Maybe I am forgetting my earth science.   Longer days in summer at NZ's latitude may be more of an explanation than solar intensity. 

The difference is not as great as change in altitude where the thinness of the atmosphere accounts for more intense solar radiation than the closer  proximity to sun. 

Anyway, I was  quickly giving AK the benefit of the doubt when he claimed skin cancer was more prevalent in NZ.  Okay Mr. Scientist, what is your opinion about AK's statement?   Incidence due to genetics or differences in solar radiation. 

[Miquel Westano]

I understand the distance from the sun is significantly shorter in NZ vs. the States. 

I don't know about significantly when you would be dealing a with at most a few thousand miles over a distance of millions of miles.  But I think the elliptical orbit of the earth does bring it closer to the sun at certain times of the year and this could have some effect.

More likely the skies are clearer and allow more UV rays to pass though, the weather and beaches encourage longer exposure and people leaving northern climate areas and arriving there have less natural resistance to sunburn.  There are several people on here with science and engineering backgrounds no doubt more qualified than me to say for sure, but I doubt the small percentage of distance variance could be the factor.

[cc3]

I am from Colorado. The sun's capability of causing skin cancer there is far greater than any sea level location anywhere in the world. Due to altitude...decreased amount of atmospheric shielding from radiation.

[Gator]

Blah, blah, blah

You are speaking for yourself, so do not say "we like this...that."

Points where I disagree with you:

1.  I prefer women whose skin color does not get lost on  bed sheets.  Besides, brunettes in general are more sexual than blonds.  Do you want to look endlessly at a  woman who is a perfect match to your definition of pretty, or a woman who looks good and  rocks you?  She could be an "ultra white" woman, but I suggest you consider other criteria in the beginning of your search. 

2.  You seem to be seeking  a traditional woman for a hierarchical relationship (see your term "agreeable personality").  Some of us appreciate "live wire" partners, especially those  who will argue productively with us.  No matter how smart one head is, two heads are always smarter than one.   Also, most women will at some point want to accomplish something more than making a "cozy" home.   Help her, encourage her to be more. 

3.  I avoided women who paraded their body on the Internet.  I appreciate something that says "class."    Besides, an  experienced man can interpret enough from normal photos to start a conversation, and as a RW gets to know you, most will be eager to give you a better idea.  Yet, if you need explicit knowledge from the start, there are RW who will comply (do not be surprised by their pancake makeup). 

4.  If you marry a RW with strong family values, do not expect her to forget about them.  She will want to see them, help them, etc.  It is a quality to admire, not repress.  You do want your wife to be happy, yes? 

5.  Shopping is therapy to most women.  We watch sports, they shop.   Best to accept it and develop with her a budget or some guidelines.  Start with this guideline:   she should spend more for herself than you spend for yourself. 

6.  Cosmetics, etc. - save your breath.  These are very important to RW, essentially a religion.  The ploy of saying how she looks glorious without makeup is fruitless.   But $1000 a month is of course unreasonable; you should be able to get by with a budget of $900. 

[SANDRO43]

Angle of incident sunlight varies with latitude, yes?  Maybe I am forgetting my earth science. Longer days in summer at NZ's latitude may be more of an explanation than solar intensity.

I don't think that NZ (latitude 35-48°S) has more incident sunlight in its summer than Italy does (latitude 35°-47°N) . Incidentally, it's curious that these two antipodal countries have a similar boot shape, albeit inverted and mirrored .

The difference is not as great as change in altitude where the thinness of the atmosphere accounts for more intense solar radiation than the closer  proximity to sun.

This, as well as the thinness of the ozone layer, is more likely to be a factor.

[Gator]

This, as well as the thinness of the ozone layer, is more likely to be a factor.

Brilliant.  I forgot that the ozone layer is not uniform around the globe and  indeed thins seasonally  near Antarctica. 

You win a Blue Ribbon with three gold stars!!!!


You have advanced to  the next level!!!    The question for the next level:  Does global warming cause terrorism?  See Sanders from yesterday's democrat debate.  My opinion, it  eventually could if huge populations are shifted; however, we have enough to deal with today because of religion. 

[vwrw]

    My 1st question for you - why AMERICAN man ?   Are you looking for your true love or because of nationality?

Because I like that Americans are hard-working, but at the same time they know how to chill and have fun and enjoy life in general after work. And they seem to be quite cheerful and friendly nation, which appeals to me.

Of course, every person is different but I think I am more likely to find someone like that in the US. Also, I know English and I am too lazy to learn another language if I meet someone from, say, France. And I think that life standards and the culture of US are suitable for me. Don't know much about lifestyle in other countries. So, that's why.

 
I love US more than I ever loved Russia. I also was looking for an american man and have never regretted it.
I will add to your list of why to pick an american man. The US education instills in the students that diversity is good. As a result, many educated people in US have a positive attitude toward legal immigrants.

[vwrw]

So if she wants to buy some new clothes, because she didn't bring her wardrobe to your house and if she will need a car or language courses, or like 100-200 $ to send to her family that's okay? Though I am sure there always will be "men" who will call this high maintenance too.

Of course, that is okay. You just need to tell the guy about your intentions in the very beginning of your relationship. I would say something like " I am a frugal lady. I do not need expensive clothing or a fancy car and can live on a tight budget. I would like to help my parents financially. If we cannot afford it, I would like to work and send them some of the money I make. What do you think about it?"  If he is not okay with that, run!

[vwrw]

You are speaking for yourself, so do not say "we like this...that."

Points where I disagree with you:

1.  I prefer women whose skin color does not get lost on  bed sheets.  Besides, brunettes in general are more sexual than blonds.  Do you want to look endlessly at a  woman who is a perfect match to your definition of pretty, or a woman who looks good and  rocks you?  She could be an "ultra white" woman, but I suggest you consider other criteria in the beginning of your search. 

2.  You seem to be seeking  a traditional woman for a hierarchical relationship (see your term "agreeable personality").  Some of us appreciate "live wire" partners, especially those  who will argue productively with us.  No matter how smart one head is, two heads are always smarter than one.   Also, most women will at some point want to accomplish something more than making a "cozy" home.   Help her, encourage her to be more. 

3.  I avoided women who paraded their body on the Internet.  I appreciate something that says "class."    Besides, an  experienced man can interpret enough from normal photos to start a conversation, and as a RW gets to know you, most will be eager to give you a better idea.  Yet, if you need explicit knowledge from the start, there are RW who will comply (do not be surprised by their pancake makeup). 

4.  If you marry a RW with strong family values, do not expect her to forget about them.  She will want to see them, help them, etc.  It is a quality to admire, not repress.  You do want your wife to be happy, yes? 

5.  Shopping is therapy to most women.  We watch sports, they shop.   Best to accept it and develop with her a budget or some guidelines.  Start with this guideline:   she should spend more for herself than you spend for yourself. 

6.  Cosmetics, etc. - save your breath.  These are very important to RW, essentially a religion.  The ploy of saying how she looks glorious without makeup is fruitless.   But $1000 a month is of course unreasonable; you should be able to get by with a budget of $900.

  Gator, You are such a wonderful man! I would marry you if I were single 

[vwrw]

Did your ex-Russian boyfriend give 100-200$ to your family ?????  So, why should Western men be different ???

Who said that she would send WM's money? Maybe she will send her own money that she earns! Or do you think that the money she would make would belong to her WM?

[vwrw]

Did your ex-Russian boyfriend give 100-200$ to your family ?????  So, why should Western men be different ???

By the way, although most Russian guys would expect some sort of report to inform them how the money they give are spent, they, however, care little about how their women send the money they earn themselves. 

[2tallbill]

Did your ex-Russian boyfriend give 100-200$ to your family ?????  So, why should Western men be different ???

She probably contributes $100-200 to her family monthly now and worries that
she won't be able to do the same if/when she moves away.

[Betelgeuse]

Did your ex-Russian boyfriend give 100-200$ to your family ?????  So, why should Western men be different ???

Okay, I'll try to explain it because the realities in our countries are quite different, so maybe it's hard to understand.

200$ that's my salary per month. (yes, per month, and no, one zero is not missing)
Usually it's even less than this.  Most of this money (like 150-160$) I give to my parents who are on pension (both). Average retiring pension in Ukraine is 1500 hryvnias = 64 dollars. Per month. Most of family budgetis spent to pay utilities (heating, electricity etc) and to buy food. And that's quite typical financial situation in my country, we are quite an average family, we don't live in poverty, don't starve etc.  I live in capital, the situation in small rural cities is worse (though they spend less too)



SO if I leave country for my man, I leave my family with 128 $ to live on. Not much, right?
That's why your spouse might need money to help her family before she gets the possibility to work herself and sent this money from what she has earned.


That was just my example, and I am sure there are families who live much much worse than my family does.


So have I convinced you that She is not a gold-digger if she wants to help her family (which she has left to be with You)? 




Sorry for the typos and my grammar

[Gator]

  Gator, You are such a wonderful man! I would marry you if I were single 

Shouldn't we meet first!  Ha Ha!  Turbo is a far better man than me.  Good to see you  again at RWD.

[Boethius]

Did your ex-Russian boyfriend give 100-200$ to your family ?????  So, why should Western men be different ???

If her FSU boyfriend is living with the family and doesn't drink then yes, his salary will be given to his wife to run the household.  That includes feeding her parents, if they are living with them.  This is the most common way families operate in Ukraine.

[SANDRO43]

...if huge populations are shifted

That would overweigh the area affected and cause the Earth's axis of rotation to shift elsewhere .

[LiveFromUkraine]

That would overweigh the area affected and cause the Earth's axis of rotation to shift elsewhere .

Would that mean the toilet bowl would flush in the opposite direction? 

[SANDRO43]

Would that mean the toilet bowl would flush in the opposite direction? 

It already does in the Northern and Southern hemispheres, as do cyclones/anticyclones . Exactly at the Equator it goes straight down . 

[Betelgeuse]

If her FSU boyfriend is living with the family and doesn't drink then yes, his salary will be given to his wife to run the household.  That includes feeding her parents, if they are living with them.  This is the most common way families operate in Ukraine.

Or she may not have boyfriend at all


Again, that's only my example but none of my boyfriends ever gave me money or bought me things, except for holiday gifts of course, but I would buy a gift too.
Unless a couple lives together it's not common when he helps his girlfriend's family (or herself) with money or things. So most girls finance their family and their own needs themselves, which is right I think.

[Boethius]

Which is why I qualified the statement with if he is living with the family.

[southernX]

Okay, I'll try to explain it because the realities in our countries are quite different, so maybe it's hard to understand.

200$ that's my salary per month. (yes, per month, and no, one zero is not missing)
Usually it's even less than this.  Most of this money (like 150-160$) I give to my parents who are on pension (both). Average retiring pension in Ukraine is 1500 hryvnias = 64 dollars. Per month. Most of family budgetis spent to pay utilities (heating, electricity etc) and to buy food. And that's quite typical financial situation in my country, we are quite an average family, we don't live in poverty, don't starve etc.  I live in capital, the situation in small rural cities is worse (though they spend less too)



SO if I leave country for my man, I leave my family with 128 $ to live on. Not much, right?
That's why your spouse might need money to help her family before she gets the possibility to work herself and sent this money from what she has earned.


That was just my example, and I am sure there are families who live much much worse than my family does.


So have I convinced you that She is not a gold-digger if she wants to help her family (which she has left to be with You)? 




Sorry for the typos and my grammar

betelgeuse , dont be sorry , your situation and wish to keep looking after your parents is perfectly reasonable imo

it would be wise to bring this up in discussion with any man that you make serious contacts with early on
however i can say for me if my now wife had of expressed such a wish it would have been ok  for us to continue to support her parents in any way we could

any man who would not wish to help support his wifes family in such a way is not worth considering imo

also take aclose look at australia as well , many good blokes down here  , there not all in america 

SX

[Anotherkiwi]

Yes, and wear sun screen lotion.   Many RW I knew avoided sun between 10 am and 3 pm. 

I understand the distance from the sun is significantly shorter in NZ vs. the States.

Although this has been answered to some extent later in the thread, I'll just clarify a couple of points.

New Zealand is NOT significantly closer to the sun than the USA!    However, the tilt (23 degrees) and rotation of the earth mean that the Southern Hemisphere is closer to the sun during our summer than the Northern Hemisphere is during yours.  There is far less pollution in the southern skies, a lot of it being due to the lack of major landmasses all around the circumference of the globe, so solar radiation does not get diffused the same way as it does north of the Equator.

And there is a significant hole in the ozone layer over the Southern Hemisphere.  This contracts and expands during the year, but is generally largest during the southern spring, when people head out into the sun for the first time after the winter chills.  There is a similar, but rather smaller, hole over the Arctic, which is also at its maximum during the (northern) spring.

I am from Colorado. The sun's capability of causing skin cancer there is far greater than any sea level location anywhere in the world. Due to altitude...decreased amount of atmospheric shielding from radiation.

Although the altitude is significant, as it would be in places like Switzerland, that will possibly be significantly negated by the amount of pollution in the atmosphere.  However, I would agree with your general premise - don't take a RW to be your wife if you live at high altitude! 

Nevertheless,  regarding the initiation of skin cancer, I thought the different natural  immunities of various peoples to skin cancer was more important rather than  the locale.   

Solar radiation will mutate cells,  and some people's immune system performs better in destroying the mutated cells before the initiation of cancer.   Thus, an unprotected Northern European in NZ has a higher probability of getting skin cancer than say someone from the Med.  What is the difference in incidence between Mauri people and NZeders descended from British stock?

Location is pretty important, whatever the nationality/colour of the person.  However, Black Africans still get skin cancer.  African-Americans still get sunburnt.  The chances of your unprotected Northern European versus the Greek/Italian also depend quite heavily on the overall health and immune system of the individual involved.

Maori people do tend to get fewer skin cancers.  However, when they do, they are quite often more serious than those suffered by white people.

[Larry1]

also take aclose look at australia as well , many good blokes down here  , there not all in america 

Betelgeuse, Don't go to Australia. The place is filled with killer animals. If you go into the surrounding ocean you might be attacked by Great White Sharks and Bull Sharks.

If you stay on land you face death from poisonous snakes. There is the Eastern Brown Snake, the Western Brown Snake, the Mainland Tiger Snake, the Inland Taipan, the Coastal Taipan, the King Brown Snake, the Copperhead, the small-eyed snake, the the Common Death Adder, and the Red-bellied Black Snake.

Australia has so many poisonous snakes that scientists are still finding new varieties. Here is the Kimberly Death Adder.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/sep/16/yet-another-deadly-snake-species-discovered-in-australia

There are lots of poisonous insects to watch out for.

http://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topics/wildlife/2013/03/australias-dangerous-animals-the-top-30/

And that's not to mention huge crocodiles and packs of baby-eating dingoes.

[Muzh]

How about those voracious pussy-eating Australians?