My story of Russian women with pics

[dragonkid]

Your parents support you, don't they?

I think i already spelt that out clearly. I do tutoring also, and that is why i plan on staying in london, i want to one day open my own school once i get a bit more experience.

[TomT]

"Yes."

[mies]

I said apparently she was a virgin, i went in knowing she might of been bsing. but few things happened

1) Blood
2) sex was terrible, it was a learning curve
3) cramps for next few days as i went full throttle due to having doubts initially
4) irregular period
5) i met her parents, old school type
6) she is from yessentuki, virginity there is gold

she didn't want the break up, but she has no affections. I mean 23 years old virgin, she is brought up not being attached. She didn't like the fact i hated marriage, that really killed it for her. She was pissed that girls would contact me couple times a day , asking how i am etc, some of who were very beautiful that got her jealous.i gave her my all towards the end, but if i find something i don't like, i don't brush it under the rug. THat is how you get a divorce 5 years down the line. YOu also missed the part when she paid for her own flight to come to moscow, and stayed a week.

- you will not be able to have relationship with her neither in UK or in Russia unless you get married. Due to visa/immigration issues. Not many options to chose from.
- imagine really handsome guys were contacting her couple times a day asking how she is etc, called while the two of you had sex. (I hope you got what I am hinting to).

I think you are immature in the way you act and think. I also would prefer that the guys like you never visit Ukraine. It is not a sex-tourism destination.

[mies]

upon further consideration, perhaps the "kid" did a huge favor to a Essentuki girl by breaking up with her.
- he is 24
- has no stable job
- does not know what he wants and likes to do
- had his parents pay for degree which he doesn't plan to use for his career
- has questionable moral standards
- has no appreciation for family values and ties
- has issues with loyalty
- is afraid of commitments
- does not respect women (probably people in general)
- has some honesty issues. For example, revealed to the girl his attitude to marriage only after they had sex and not before.

Basically if you take away the trust fund, you get an egoistic drifter without a compass or principles.

The girl can become affectionate, perhaps with a different man, but it is highly unlikely that OP's personality will change in any near future.

I am surprised why did they meet in a first place: the girl who wants to start a family, and the guy who only has sex tours on his mind, and is boasting his exploitative attitudes. It's a pity she had to waste her money, time, and emotions on him. Good for her that it didn't last too long.

[dragonkid]

upon further consideration, perhaps the "kid" did a huge favor to a Essentuki girl by breaking up with her.
- he is 24
- has no stable job
- does not know what he wants and likes to do
- had his parents pay for degree which he doesn't plan to use for his career
- has questionable moral standards
- has no appreciation for family values and ties
- has issues with loyalty
- is afraid of commitments
- does not respect women (probably people in general)
- has some honesty issues. For example, revealed to the girl his attitude to marriage only after they had sex and not before.

Basically if you take away the trust fund, you get an egoistic drifter without a compass or principles.

The girl can become affectionate, perhaps with a different man, but it is highly unlikely that OP's personality will change in any near future.

I am surprised why did they meet in a first place: the girl who wants to start a family, and the guy who only has sex tours on his mind, and is boasting his exploitative attitudes. It's a pity she had to waste her money, time, and emotions on him. Good for her that it didn't last too long.

- he is 24
25 now
- has no stable job
I work now, i may not make a lot at the job, but i make enough as i have 0 overheads. I am saving up to do my own thing in the future, without my parents help.
- does not know what he wants and likes to do
I know i don't want to be a hippy and travel the world. I want to be successful and passionate about running my own business.
- had his parents pay for degree which he doesn't plan to use for his career
I actually got a student loan for my degree.Don't worry about my parents, i made them and still make them money, by managing their business. If it wasn't for me they would have a lot less.
- has questionable moral standards
INTP, bite me
- has no appreciation for family values and ties
You don't know my family background. So shush sweetie, i never met my ex because she was beautiful, i met her because she was a woman i respected. I have girls that are more pleasing to the eye, but none of them really hit me like my ex did. I saw one girl the other week on mamba that gave me the chills, stated she wanted marriage, beautiful, with a headscarf (not muslim). That is the type of women i like, and which is why i am learning russian now, i plan on going to russia and meet family orientated girls once i am mentally ready.
- has issues with loyalty
Never cheated on anybody, and never will
- is afraid of commitments
25, surrounded by people with failed marriages. I think it was good that i don't rush the marriage thing
- does not respect women (probably people in general)
In your opinion
- has some honesty issues. For example, revealed to the girl his attitude to marriage only after they had sex and not before.
I just don't disclose everything, not many guys go on a date and say "i never want to get married, unless i trust the girl 100%", shit conversation starter.

t it is highly unlikely that OP's personality will change in any near future.

I change every year, as long as i understand that i need to change, i will change gradually. I am young and have time to change my ways.


just to add to your pm, i won't contact my ex again. The relationship is over, i need to move on and improve myself and meet someone right for me. I hurt her too much, and put her through too much for her to forgive me. When i got back in contact with her, she said she would let me meet her again, but we talked and she is beyond repair.

[mies]

...

You do not need to explain yourself and justify your choices and preferences. My point is that the two of you are drastically different, and you cannot give this girl what she needs and wants. Because it's not in you, you don't have it. Not in the nearest several years. By that time, if she sticks with you, she will become disillusioned.
I am not saying you should or must change. Different people add variety and make life interesting.

[mies]

but we talked and she is beyond repair.

she is not broken )) but you are. that's why you are searching the missing piece.
also, don't praise yourself for being some evil super villain. She'll get over you soon enough. And one day will be saying "Thank God"

just to add to your pm, i won't contact my ex again. The relationship is over,

pm was not a recommendation for action, merely a speculation that you probably make prompt and wrong conclusions due to the lack of experience.
1) You take a 23yo virgin (very reserved, traditional, with bunch of taboos and shy), and expect that in 4 weeks she will magically transform to some sort of porn-star in your private bedroom (or whatever else you mean by "affection"). It's like taking a nerd from science class and expecting that in 4 weeks they will become professional athlete competing at the national level.
2) You fuck things up, and when the girl is upset by you, you interpret this temporary cooling as "lack of affection" on her side. Instead of repairing your own doing, you decide that she is "imperfect" for you, and cut her loose.

Wrong conclusions? For sure.

[dragonkid]

she is not broken )) but you are. that's why you are searching the missing piece.

So searching for a good woman means i am broken? I don't deny i have regrets, i think i said several times on here, i would of done certain things differently. But i am not really in a bad shape compared to other break ups.

I know talking to you will go in circles, go play with someone else.

[msmobyone]

would of done certain things differently. But i am not really in a bad shape compared to other break ups.

I know talking to you will go in circles, go play with someone else.

Perhaps, DK - YOU could spend less time on here - as the lady makes more sense.. you really do have  a lot to learn.

[mies]

So searching for a good woman means i am broken?

no, but traveling on sex tours to less privileged countries which are going through war and financial crisis - definitely does.
I know a 24yo Ukrainian female who lost both legs above knees on a mine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PFM-1) less than a year ago, and I know of many females who underwent tortures within the last 2 years.
It despises me to read your posts about sex-tours to Ukraine.  Please, travel elsewhere, or what's best - stay in UK.

[pokerintherear]

no, but traveling on sex tours in less privileged countries which are going through war and financial crisis - definitely does.

What if the woman likes sex as much as the man and enjoys the company of a man she finds attractive for a week with food, wine , song and dance and allows her to get away from the everyday life she is experiencing with little expense and much fun and satisfaction????????????

[mies]

What if the woman likes sex as much as the man and enjoys the company of a man she finds attractive for a week with food, wine , song and dance and allows her to get away from the everyday life she is experiencing with little expense and much fun and satisfaction????????????

I can assure you, there are plenty of sexually active, fit, attractive 24yo males in Ukraine. I don't mind if UKkid travels to USA for sex tours. Why not?

[pokerintherear]

I'm sure there is. But very few to pick up the tab for a week........ I can assure you that.

[mies]

I'm sure there is. But very few to pick up the tab for a week........ I can assure you that.

and you are wrong. It's a custom for Ukrainian male to pick a tab. and not just for a week. He may not invite his date to a fancy and expensive place, but there are many places within a budget of a 24yo Ukrainian male with a stable job and income.

Ukrainian hospitals are filled with severely injured young males, who sacrificed their everything for their country, and often pay out of pocket for basic military necessities (uniform, medical kits, tactical equipment). Good decent people. Real men.
And then creatures like the OP look at Ukraine and thinks "I've got to go there, the country is unstable, everything is cheap and girls are beautiful, easy targets." This is disgusting on so many levels.

[dragonkid]

no, but traveling on sex tours to less privileged countries which are going through war and financial crisis - definitely does.

Perhaps, DK - YOU could spend less time on here - as the lady makes more sense.. you really do have  a lot to learn.

wait up i am getting confused, firstly i am a sex tourist because i go to a country and sleep with one girl, and not meeting the other 100+ girls, 25 of who are local. Now i am only talking to a small handful of women, trying to find caucus women who are family orientated,and beautiful, and i am still getting shit?

Please look at this image carefully and take as personal as possible. I mean it from the bottom of my

[pokerintherear]

and you are wrong. It's a custom for Ukrainian male to pick a tab. and not just for a week. He may not invite his date to a fancy and expensive place, but there are many places within a budget of a 24yo Ukrainian male with a stable job and income.

Your blowing hot air again. I said for a week not one Saturday night

[mies]

wait up i am getting confused, firstly i am a sex tourist because i go to a country and sleep with one girl

You are a sex tourist because you travel to underprivileged foreign countries with the sole purpose of having sex with local women, while capitalizing on beneficial (for you) currency exchange rate and being fashionably vague about your motives.

trying to find caucus women who are family orientated,and beautiful,

Is it strange that you are targeting family-oriented women while you said earlier in this thread that you do not believe in marriage and do not intend to get married?
No, it is not strange. Because when targeting family-oriented women you can get far, deceive and lure them by offering non-specific promises of future "family". Using this strategy you also reduce regular expenses associated with dating. 

[mies]

Your blowing hot air again. I said for a week not one Saturday night

I dated Ukrainian men, have you?

[pokerintherear]

Real men.

What is a real man???????

[pokerintherear]

I dated Ukrainian men, have you?

Hell no!!!

[mies]

Hell no!!!

exactly. 

[mies]

What is a real man???????

decent, with personal integrity and moral values. The man who can say black from white and right from wrong. Who is not afraid of commitment and responsibility. Who is capable of sacrifice for the safety and security of his loved ones, and his homeland. Who keeps his word and knows the value of it. Doesn't steal, doesn't cheat (in a broader sense). Honors his duty(-ies).

[treadmilldude]

DragonKid, tread carefully. I have been one of your biggest supporters. But you just crossed a line with me. Stop posting in this thread man, let this thread just die.

[mies]

All the guys here are capitalising on the weak exchange rate, not just me. Go back in the kitchen, i don't care about your friend who lost her legs, wtf has that got to do with me? why am i still wasting my time on you? Who is the mad fucker that married you?

)))
try not to start sobbing )))
there there, it will be allright 

[dragonkid]

)))
try not to start sobbing )))
there there, it will be allright 

Who is sobbing? You are posting about your country that is falling apart, and friends that lost their legs  I am minding my own business, i ignored your pm in the morning, your 1st post here, but you added another post a few hours later. What is wrong with you? You are crazy.