How to Approach Professionals for Dating

[Deasonstacy]

Hello everyone, looking for your expert advice, can you please share your views on 'How to Approach Professionals for Dating' such as Russian doctors, teachers engineers etc. I have read a blog related to this topic online  and found it of great help, but still looking for expert advises from you all. 

Here is the complete blog:
Approaching and asking professionals for dating is a hard nut to crack. Whether they are doctors, lawyers or engineers, they remain extremely busy in their work, and there with their ambitious nature, they generally don’t get much time to think about their love life. Approaching a professional for dating is like reminding a forgotten person that he can also enjoy romance.

Approaching professionals for dating is not very different than approaching non-professionals, but then it becomes important to keep a check on manners, clothing, language, etiquette etc., because it is a higher possibility that they may notice them and reject the proposal on their basis. That is why I have picked this topic of how to approach professionals for dating. So, let’s start the discussion.

Things Required for Approaching Professionals:

Confidence

One of the main things that professionals notice very precisely is the self-confidence. In their opinion, a person should have the courage to express his views with confidence. If he is unable to do so, he will not be able to get the desired results in personal and professional life. So, prepare in advance whatever you want to convey to your love interest and say it all with full confidence, may you get lucky and become successful in targeting the right nerve this time.

Dressing Style

Dressing style of a person undoubtedly creates the first impression, maybe she won’t notice you initially, but once you give your proposal, then definitely she will check out what you are wearing from tip to toe. So, keep your dress right, make sure to look and feel your best that day. Either choose a casual attire or semi-formal one, make sure to look like the most desirable one.

Do Some Breathing Exercises

A relaxed mind and body language is very important, otherwise you will look nervous and just don’t let that happen. Show her that you have the guts to say that you like her in front of her and anyone. Don’t let any negative thought hinder your path, stay positive, calm and say your heart out. Breathing exercises will help you in staying calm, so just do them if needed.

Just ask for the Right Time

Generally, professionals remain busy in their work, they get very less time for themselves. So, it is better to ask in advance that what would be the best time to talk because may be they don’t like disturbance in work. So, either message them or just give a call to ask about the right time in advance.

Do Proper Interaction & Eye contact with her Friends

It is possible that when you approach her, she may be occupied by her group of friends or colleagues, then also there is no need to hesitate or feel nervous. Walk confidently, interact with her friends, shake hand, make eye-contact, introduce yourself and ask for excuse to talk alone. If she would be doing something important, she may ask you to wait, just respond positively and present yourself as a gentleman.

Be a Gentleman

You expressed whatever you wanted to say to her, now it’s her turn to give a response, may be this thought was not in her head at all, maybe she didn’t expected that you were going to confess your love in front of her. So, give her some time to make her mind, let her think about the proposal, don’t be impatient and force her to give a response just then. Be a gentleman and respect if she will ask for time.

Give an Appropriate Introduction

If she knows you already that is well and good, but she don’t know you, just give a small and appropriate introduction of yourself to create an impression. Tell your name, talk a bit about your family and profession. Make her realize that you belong to a good family and now come to the point and say it clearly what you wanted to say.

Basic Etiquette

When you meet her for the first time, show your basic etiquette, give a warm welcome and pull the chair for her, also ask for refreshments such as beverages or something to eat. Show your humorous side, make her laugh and speak politely throughout the meeting. Also, bid her goodbye in a nice way by saying that you are hoping to meet again soon.

If you want to date a Russian then it is worth mentioning that Russian professionals have a very specific taste and they are not very easy to get along. Be it dating with Russian teacher or dating with Russian doctor, show your positive attitude and that you are worth dating them. So, make an impression and grab a yes.

[BillyB]

Welcome to the forum DeasonStacy. The advice you posted looks good. When will you get to practice it as in when are you going to take a trip to the FSU? Have you found a woman yet you'd like to visit? What sites are you using to communicate with women?

[Gator]

Deasonstacy,

Whew! At first glance I thought your term "professionals" meant prostitutes.    LOL

Regarding doctors, engineers, etc., the information in the agency profiles will identify the profession.  Search through the listings to find doctors, etc.  interested in meeting Western men.  Then write them.   

Writing is the difficult part.  These women are fairly intelligent and are disciplined enough to obtain a high education.  You must jump over a high threshold to command their interest.  They will have no patience for mistakes, idiotic statements, etc.

I suggest you read their profiles carefully and write a brief note addressing something specific that other men may overlook.

Law of large numbers helps (i. e., write many because most will hit "Delete"). 

Then be yourself unless you lack confidence, dress poorly, behave like a pig, etc. or whatever else you have been reading about.

[SANDRO43]

Regarding doctors, engineers, etc., the information in the agency profiles will identify the profession.

Caveat: I've seen LOTS of girls in their early 20s list themselves as managers, doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. .

Maybe they should have added an "aspiring" prefix , unless FSU Unis and careers run at a much faster speed than in the West .

[dragonkid]

1) talk less, ask more
2) flowers
3) call out the elephant in the room
4) don't be desperate
5) Be confident

[tfcrew]

Deasonstacy,

Whew! At first glance I thought your term "professionals" meant prostitutes.    LOL

 

But don't they do the approaching?

[Deasonstacy]

I found professionals very moody, I have not seen participating them in love related discussions very often, it is difficult to understand their perspective of love. I think only a professional can solve this query properly.

[msmobyone]

Just be yourself.

[Deasonstacy]

Any extra efforts are not required?

[msmobyone]

Any extra efforts are not required?

If you are going to live with someone - no coaching can help - be yourself - chase the person that interests you the most - tell her why you were interested and take it from there.

Those who think frequent workouts and muscle tone are the key ... will attract the type they deserve.

[dragonkid]

Those who think frequent workouts and muscle tone are the key ... will attract the type they deserve.

Hot women? 

It is like saying why chase money? You will attract gold diggers
Why approach women when all they care about is X,Y,and Z?
Why go to FSU? You will only attract women who want a visa
Why date western women? They are a bunch of cheats,feminists, and whores

Improving your worth wherever possible is always good, i find it strange when people try and justify by saying trying X,Y,or Z is a waste. You just have more people to choose from, and can be more selective. Poor relationships/marriages are sometimes the result of not having more to choose from, so people settle with someone the know isn't really good.

[msmobyone]

Hot women? 

Your words ... 

It is like saying why chase money? You will attract gold diggers

I think you mean 'advertise' you have assets money ?

Why go to FSU? You will only attract women who want a visa

I have yet to meet one who doesn't need a visa to travel to most places ..

Why date western women? They are a bunch of cheats,feminists, and whores

The last one is not normally an 'excuse' on here for most members - possibly telling

Improving your worth wherever possible is always good, i find it strange when people try and justify by saying trying X,Y,or Z is a waste. You just have more people to choose from, and can be more selective. Poor relationships/marriages are sometimes the result of not having more to choose from, so people settle with someone the know isn't really good.

Nothing wrong with improving yourself - but the lass that chooses you is going to meet the real you ... dating is but one [short ] part of the process

[Morty]

I'm involved with an oligarch's daughter and I can tell you from personal experience there is no guide or set of rules that can prepare you for, or qualify you for the experience. The one piece of advice I agree with is that you have to get used to fitting around their schedule, they will talk to you until the early hours of the morning and then be busy for days. You need to be patient, emotionally resilient and just accept you are part of their life not their whole life.

There really is nothing you can do that impresses them, being a young abs toned pretty boy - vip clubs are full of them. Got a Bentley? Daddy already bought them one. Designer suit? More likely to have a fetish for a guy in ripped jeans or combats.

About the only thing that interests them is stimulating them mentally which is no easy task when they've had a gold-plated education and can cover geopolitics, philosophy, classic history and the global trade in synthetic derivatives in one sitting.

That said, if you've got the requisite skills their hearts can be won. Given that most men run a country mile at the prospect of a strong financially independent assertive and demanding woman they have surprisingly few suitors. But if you think New York Goldman Sachs Ivy League alumni are hard work, throw in the Slavic temperament and you have the sort of woman many guys in this niche are trying to avoid. But then I guess the market for mail order brides is somewhat different than mail order husbands 

I'll conclude with the fact that in my experience Slavic professional women are about as tough to impress as women get, their ability to succeed in an incredibly male dominated society means they don't suffer fools; so unless you have the sort of confidence that would qualify you as a navy seal, tempered by not being arrogant or having an ego that will be dented by playing second fiddle in the relationship it is probably better to to find someone who doesn't define the word 'high maintenance', because these girls 'high maintenance' is like the difference between servicing a Hyundai at your local dealer and the Ferrari F1 team needing a whol fleet of experts just to get the engine started.

And in case anyone asks, I really have no idea what she sees in me or how I got here, and she gives no clues and the reason she is worth the effort is simply stripping away the status she is all sorts of complicated and utterly delightful and beguiling company, who ironically is less materialistic than your average Odessa pro-dater and as happy in a beach shack as a 5 star suite.

[BillyB]

Welcome to the forum Morty. It seems you are dating a challenge but challenge can be fun if there isn't too much drama involved.

[dragonkid]

I'm involved with an oligarch's daughter

 
How did the two of you meet?

[msmobyone]

Morty  - welcome. Your story sounds interesting

How did the two of you meet?

I expect he put a profile on www.iamseekingavirginbridewithadowry.com   you should join.

[JayH]

I'm involved with an oligarch's daughter and I can tell you from personal experience there is no guide or set of rules that can prepare you f


And in case anyone asks, I really have no idea what she sees in me or how I got here, and she gives no clues and the reason she is worth the effort is simply stripping away the status she is all sorts of complicated and utterly delightful and beguiling company, who ironically is less materialistic than your average Odessa pro-dater and as happy in a beach shack as a 5 star suite.

Does she have a sister?
I always wanted someone who could keep me in the manner I want to become accustomed to !!

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"I really have no idea what she sees in me or how I got here"

Actually-- your quality post does tell us the answer!!

[Morty]

Thanks for the welcome guys.

No, sorry she doesn't have a sister

How we met; my brother in law runs a private security firm for HNW's and celebrities. Most clients are from the FSU block, generally they send wife and kids to the UK while they run their business in their own country with the company of their mistress. Most of my colleagues know their wives and kids better than their husbands. I was hired to look after one of her friend's families who is now resident in the UK. She came over to stay with her friend and do the summer social circuit. Her own security guy couldn't get a visa so I got the job of looking after her. these girls live in gilded cages, she hadn't had a relationship in years and was lonely I guess. Their whole life's are a security nightmare and they are incredibly restricted by virtue of the parents business, and the characters they upset (politically, we are talking a tier above mafia here). When you are looking after someone 24/7, live in their homes, are never more than a couple feet from them and are paid to sit patiently while they try every shoe in the shop, carry all their bags, walk their fleet of handbag dogs coupled to the fact they know you are basically being paid to protect their lives it can be quite easy for feelings to develop even when you try and remain professional.

Anyway, she was messing about on the Internet and decided to show me what she was up to (dropping hints Slavic style), and she was on a bunch of dating websites entertaining herself with all manner of crazy western gentlemen. I'd dated a girl from Odessa while I was working for a family in Dubai who had been one of AD's agency models so I already knew all the dirty little secrets about chat girls, pro-daters etc. Don't go to Odessa chaps...)

She obviously enjoyed trolling the perverts, but she was pretty kind to some nice guys who'd had bad experiences, giving them tips on avoiding scams, gold diggers etc. I think she just liked talking to people outside 'the bubble' because she was as lonely as the guys on the other end (money really buys misery, not happiness).

Anyway, the fantasy you all imagine is far from reality. Sorry DK she's not a virgin, posh girls tend to be naughty. She's also early 30's although a lifetime of pampering makes her look 21. She is loaded with trust issues as most of these women are, and her schedule is gruelling st times as she runs a boutique hedge fund managing her families investments. And that is the nub of it - she does all these exciting things while I'm in the garage applying yet another layer of polish to the S Class or hoovering all the bloody dog hairs out.

Anyway, I decided to sign up here to learn a few things, having been on the end if a Slavic temper tantrum about ABSOLOUTELY nothing, I'm kind of interested to know why my rational 'boss' suddenly turned into some sort of emotional whirling dervish.

[Morty]

Some other myths I can share about Russian debutantes;

They are surrounded by chinless ruperts and they are full blown daddy's girls. Their dads grew up as blue collar under the soviet system, and got where they did by being the sort of guys you donat upset unless you want to dig yourself a shallow grave in Pripyat. As a result these girls ideal of a 'strong man' are not shared with their western sisters. They also like mature guys - I don't know any of them that would married or get involved with a guy under 40 - most of the young guys in their set at their age have so much cash they literally bang anything that moves. Typically they will be given 'playtime' until they hit late twenties when they are expected to settle down and sire the next generation of the dynasty. If they fail to find a suitable match then the parents step in and hire a small army of relationship specialists and matchmakers to find a suitable victim/candidate.

Any suggestion you are a coke sniffing Ferrari crashing degenerate will disqualify you. It's more like getting a job at the NSA than a courtship.

Everything is decided for you; where you live, what you drive, where you go, who you associate with, what you eat. Don't expect a Lamborghini for Christmas - I drive the family b6 armoured Range Rover and S65 both of which need enough wax to turn the karate kid into Bruce lee.

The new set completely distance themselves from the 'new Russians'. The ultra Natasha's you see in Mayfair nightclubs soho want a Rolex on the second date are the pretenders, you'll never see these girls unless you are on the right social list. If you are lucky you might pick once up in Dubai, Thailand or an art gallery in Paris, but they don't look who they are - they don't overdress and usually a subtle Birmingham bag or Louis Vuitton scarf is the only give away, that and the 6' guy in ray bans holding her luggage.

Most likely hang-outs are obscure fringe theatre, pet charitable projects, left bank artist exhibitions, orphanages, and trekking in Nepal.

dating wise they are all hanging in the long grass - the guardian personals, art quarters, anything cultured that doesn't attract money. You won't find out who they are unless you make the grade.

but honestly speaking, I was dating a Russian TV presenter and that girl is about q0 percent of the effort, and do you really want to spend your life locked in that gilded cage? If you do there is a whole generation of single young women that suffer the same issues as other women in finding a decent guy, but with a whole set of added complexity that stops them from having complete access to the dating scene.

Just don't send pictures of your penis, or the  next letter you get will be from one of their gay male friends who will be happy to indulge your erotic fantasies

[Lily]

Hello OP,

I think that I belong to your target group I am Russian but I live in Canada, where I moved on myself.

Question for you: whom do you consider a "professional"? Anyone who is university educated? How about a technical engineer, would she be considered as professional? Or, would a professional be someone who learned a particular skilled profession, how about a tailor or beautician?

Another question would be, why a professional? Don't you think that they will have a hard time to re-establish themselves in their new country after they marry you?

[BillyB]

I'd dated a girl from Odessa while I was working for a family in Dubai who had been one of AD's agency models so I already knew all the dirty little secrets about chat girls, pro-daters etc. Don't go to Odessa chaps...)

We had a guy on here who dated an AD girl in Odessa and she answered the door of his apartment and thugs came in and beat him within an inch of his life with the goal of robbing him. Nothing happened to the girl though. AD is all over the FSU, not just Odessa, and we warn guys from using their services.

[Morty]

We had a guy on here who dated an AD girl in Odessa and she answered the door of his apartment and thugs came in and beat him within an inch of his life with the goal of robbing him. Nothing happened to the girl though. AD is all over the FSU, not just Odessa, and we warn guys from using their services.

It's solid advice and any guy who doesn't listen is a fool. If you want to meet those kind of girls just go and party at the clubs. With vk and Facebook there is no excuse these days for not realising when you are being played like a fiddle.

[Darth_Budda]

I looked for girls on AD,,,
So I could than find them on VK

But I mostly talked to her on Vk and Skype...
She told me,, she would get in trouble from her bosses at the Mail farm,,, because she was talking to me on Vk at work,,, lol
They would fine her when she did not talk to other men..

After we talked for a while,,, She quit that job..

[Gator]

Hello OP,

I think that I belong to your target group I am Russian but I live in Canada, where I moved on myself.

Deasonstacy,  You said you found professionals to be "moody."   We have known Lily for years and years.  She is a very accomplished attorney, and she is very positive and upbeat.   She emigrated legally from Russia to Canada and built a life in Canada on her own efforts. 

Are you confusing "moody" with "strong, independent."   Successful women, the same as successful men, tend to be strong and independent as well as intelligent.  If you have what it takes, pursue them.  However, they do not want to stay home to cook and clean.   

[2tallbill]

If you want to date a Russian then it is worth mentioning that Russian professionals have a very specific taste and they are not very easy to get along. Be it dating with Russian teacher or dating with Russian doctor, show your positive attitude and that you are worth dating them. So, make an impression and grab a yes.

90+% of the Russian women that I've dated were professionals and I've found them
easy to get along with or I dumped them.

Udachi!

Bill