Is this for me?

[Boethius]

it's 9 or nothing because I can date AW that are 8's. Also I already mentioned that I have no problem with 15 years younger. Once again, why 15? Because I can date AW that are 10 years younger. I'm 6'2, well put together, have a full head of blonde hair am active and carry only about 10 - 15 lbs too much weight, Most people say I look about 36- 38. I have no problem dating attractive American women. So if I can't find a younger and more attractive FSUW then why deal with the culture and language barrier? Maybe I should be ashamed for being so blunt and open about wanting a young and beautiful wife, but that's the way it is so I'm not going to pretend. If I'm not going to get a "trophy wife" I might as well marry a women 6-8 years younger that has a degree and a job. It's not like I don't have $70,000 a year nurses and even the occasional female doc dropping hints.

End point and I think dragonkid made it, I just don't think the looks and youth are enough of a priority for me.

Oh and just for the record here is a 9 imo (if the link works (she's 26): http://www.luckylovers.net/f/all_pics.php?idp=713875

If you want a trophy wife, you need to maintain her, and that usually includes the proper lifestyle, or someone else, soon enough, will be polishing her.

[Larry1]

Redking,

With sufficient effort I think you can find a fsuw such as the one in the photo you linked to.

[dragonkid]

If you want a trophy wife, you need to maintain her, and that usually includes the proper lifestyle, or someone else, soon enough, will be polishing her.

I think the woman OP attached wouldn't be too troublesome. It sounds like his expectations are not crazy where he needs to spend like crazy. He wants a kid, can offer her security, good life, i have a feeling he will do fine.

[LiveFromUkraine]

it's 9 or nothing because I can date AW that are 8's. Also I already mentioned that I have no problem with 15 years younger.

Are you interested in dating or marriage?   Why hasn't any of those 8's turned into a long term partner?   You keep talking about dating but it doesn't seem like you are getting the results you want if you are on this board. 

End point and I think dragonkid made it, I just don't think the looks and youth are enough of a priority for me.

Or maybe it is too much of a priority.  All I have read was age and beauty and if you're not going to get a model it isn't worth it.


Man, I'm telling you, I think you would be better off dating someone locally with a good career. 

Is there really that much difference between a 8 and 9 in looks?  I don't honestly know.  I always ended up in relationships with women that I was attracted to both in personality and looks.  I never went after a specific number.


Anyway, you and your nurse will be able to speak English with no cultural problems to work through. And she will have her own money, friends and support structure!  Sounds like a better option to me.


Looks will only get you so far. 

[Gator]

Oh and just for the record here is a 9 imo (if the link works (she's 26): http://www.luckylovers.net/f/all_pics.php?idp=713875

Her looks are not uncommon in the FSU.  I consider her more of an 8 than a 9, but the difference IMO is too slight to eliminate one and accept another. 

She may not have been the target of the wealthy Russian man crowd. 

The woman in your photo impresses me as having a warm personality. 

I suggest you send her  a short note and see what happens.  A couple of emails and then lots of Skype.  Do that Doc, and you will have a real case to analyze.

Try some other women too.  See how it goes.   Most men find the hunting phase pleasantly invigorating. 

[redking11]

maybe someone needs to explain to some of these 25yo FSUW that if they aim to high and get that Russian guy that makes millions but drops them when they turn 30 that they may not even get that $350,000 a year doctor. I would seek a woman in her mid 20's even if less attractive if for no other reason that I still want a couple more kids, especially a son and 20 something is much better than 30 something to have children, complications are far greater and I forget the exact number but the chance of down syndrome is either 3 or 5 times as high for children born to women over 30. 

In the end though I keep coming back to the same thought, that being, that the only real advantage i can see to marrying a FSUW is that she doesn't have the AW culture, but everything i hear makes her seem just as bad or worse. It's been a very discouraging discussion.

[Gator]

Are you interested in dating or marriage?   Why hasn't any of those 8's turned into a long term partner?   You keep talking about dating but it doesn't seem like you are getting the results you want if you are on this board. 

Something is wrong.  You left out the part about looking in the mirror, not at the face but the person behind the face. 

Begs the question of why a date with a  FSUW would be different. 

[redking11]

What kind of woman would divorce a man that she has children with only because he spends more on her? This is not the type of woman I would even look at (assuming I could see her as that type of person)

[Gator]

In the end though I keep coming back to the same thought, that being, that the only real advantage i can see to marrying a FSUW is that she doesn't have the AW culture, but everything i hear makes her seem just as bad or worse. It's been a very discouraging discussion.

Please don't fall for the agency hype about traditional values.  FSUW may be more traditional on average than AW; however, they vary individually just as do AW.

[Boethius]

maybe someone needs to explain to some of these 25yo FSUW that if they aim to high and get that Russian guy that makes millions but drops them when they turn 30 that they may not even get that $350,000 a year doctor. I would seek a woman in her mid 20's even if less attractive if for no other reason that I still want a couple more kids, especially a son and 20 something is much better than 30 something to have children, complications are far greater and I forget the exact number but the chance of down syndrome is either 3 or 5 times as high for children born to women over 30. 

In the end though I keep coming back to the same thought, that being, that the only real advantage i can see to marrying a FSUW is that she doesn't have the AW culture, but everything i hear makes her seem just as bad or worse. It's been a very discouraging discussion.

Or maybe the type of woman who you seem to want won't be impressed with your $350,000 salary.

[Gator]

What kind of woman would divorce a man that she has children with only because he spends more on her? This is not the type of woman I would even look at (assuming I could see her as that type of person)

More issues than money are needed to compel a divorce. 

[LiveFromUkraine]

Something is wrong.  You left out the part about looking in the mirror, not at the face but the person behind the face. 

Begs the question of why a date with a  FSUW would be different.

Good point.  I must be slipping.   

[redking11]

Gator, I want love and I could marry here, but before you judge me too harshly, I live in a rural texas community without a lot of options. I cannot hide my income, I do feel like I get a lot of women interested in me AND my income. I don't like how American women act like they are entitled to a certain lifestyle period and a certain lifestyle if they date me. but once again, FSUW seem about the same. I came here because I wanted that woman that was surprised and grateful when she got the BMW, not one that expected and demanded it. Does that make sense? Oh well. FSUW were worth a thought but I think that the trait I am looking for is international in nature so I am looking for the needle in the proverbial haystack regardless of which nationality I date it. 

[redking11]

Also just for the record and so we can get it out of the way, I would not marry a gorgeous woman if she did not have morals, character and substance. I want both, justlike any man.

[Gator]

I would seek a woman in her mid 20's even if less attractive if for no other reason that I still want a couple more kids, especially a son and 20 something is much better than 30 something to have children, complications are far greater....

I would say it takes calendar time to get her here, marry  and start breeding.  However, I am still trying to help you decide whether this venture is for you.

[mhr7]

Also just for the record and so we can get it out of the way, I would not marry a gorgeous woman if she did not have morals, character and substance. I want both, justlike any man.

Why not consider women up to 30 with 8+ looks.  If you do that, it will expand the size of your dating pool greatly.  With more choices now you can add the important criteria of intelligence and personality.  My God!  You are a professional, a doctor.  You need someone who can  hang out in your social circles, be your true friend as well as mother of your child.   An intelligent, charming woman will be better suited to handle the cultural and language barriers.    She will develop friends over time.

This is the best piece of advice I've read so far. Think about it.

[redking11]

Let me get a little personal. My first wife only married me because I got accepted into med school and she admitted as much. To her I was just a bank account. There is nothing worse than being bitched at because the car, vacation, house ect, isn't big enough. I just want a relationship where I'm more than money, and now, in the U.S. I can't hide my income and truthfully, I'm probably a little jaded and see more gold digging tendencies in the AW that I date than are actually there. My thinking was 1. I could at least hide my income from a FSUW and hey if I can get a younger more attractive FSUW than I would get an AW, so much the better.

[redking11]

I appreciate all the help and insight guys, and am not taking anything you say as other than helpful good advice, just fyi.

[Gator]

Gator, I want love and I could marry here, but before you judge me too harshly, I live in a rural texas community without a lot of options. I cannot hide my income, I do feel like I get a lot of women interested in me AND my income.

It is not your income that brings out the sense of entitlement.   It is the age gap.  I too found the same when I was dating AW much younger than me.   

You can hide your upper level income from RW because they don't see how you live. 

[redking11]

and honestly! do you guys understand how far and few between women that are not overweight are in rural communities! lol it's sad and the obesity crisis in our country is not getting any better!

[Gator]

and honestly! do you guys understand how far and few between women that are not overweight are in rural communities! lol it's sad and the obesity crisis in our country is not getting any better!

Men claim that, and I see many overweight young women who seem proud of their fat ass.    It may be even worse along the Rio Grande or wherever you live. 

Nevertheless, I still see many gorgeous slender AW.  Did you try the US dating sites?

[redking11]

It is not your income that brings out the sense of entitlement.   It is the age gap.  I too found the same when I was dating AW much younger than me.   

You can hide your upper level income from RW because they don't see how you live.

Good point sir

[2tallbill]

Also just for the record and so we can get it out of the way, I would not marry a gorgeous woman if she did not have morals, character and substance. I want both, justlike any man.

You want what you want.

Just because I am crazy about midget contortionists who wear high heels people
make fun of me    They say "Bill why don't you just find a good short girl?
then she wouldn't need to wear high heels?" but if that's what turns my crank
then that's what I want.

You went to school for a zillion years and studied all kinds of crap. That takes
discipline. You can go to the gym 5 days a week for an hour, it just takes
discipline. You will be able to attract a better looking woman if you are fit.

You can find a very hot FSUW who is 30. A 30 year old is still plenty fertile and
you won't be pushing the envelope so far, especially if you ignore my advice
regarding the gym.

The more you push the envelope the more risky it is and the less likely you
will find a good girl. What you want is a good girl, who makes you happy that
is attractive, intelligent and interesting.

Udachi!

Bill

[2tallbill]

and honestly! do you guys understand how far and few between women that are not overweight are in rural communities! lol it's sad and the obesity crisis in our country is not getting any better!

I lived in Western North Dakota for 4 years during the oil boom. Even the toothless
crones with facial tattoos who were 170lbs overweight and had an ankle bracelet
telling their probation officers where they were had a gaggle of men around them.
If you wanted a woman then you had to bring your own, because they didn't have
ANY unmarried women there. 

[Gator]

Good luck redking.

My gorgeous Russian wife, my 17-yo stepson and I are off to the club for a party with a band and fireworks.  My stepdaughter and her husband will join us.  My older son and his tribe may come as well dependent upon what else unfolds. 

Happy 4th

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