The Struggle For Ukraine

[olgac]

It's increasingly becoming clear that Iran had a big network of facilities all built around developing nuclear weapons. Israel is taking out much of this meter of nuclear facilities and for that we should all be grateful to them I think:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c994v4gm9jmt

I am thankful! Just nervous if we get involved.

[krimster2]

I don't think the USA will go to war with Iran
number one, Trump doesn't wanna spend the money
Israel can fight 10X cheaper than the USA
more cost effective to pay the Joos to do the job for the USA or at least give them Joos a BIG discount on the weapons!!!
SLOVO!

China just shipped a $billion worth of their latest missiles to Iran
some of them are state-of-art anti-ship missiles
so they can fire hundreds of them at the US Navy + shutdown Hormuz

Trump's bombastic comments are like Putin's
it's all for the media

all Trump has to do is just support Israel's logistics, and give them spy satellite data so Israel can track EVERYTHING in real-time
like what the USA did with Ukraine under Biden

if Trump was gonna ACTUALLY attack, he wouldn't telegraph it
America's carriers are sitting ducks to Chinese missiles launched by Iranian/Chinese crews
China would give anything, pay any price, to see them tested now, before 2027 comes

I suspect Israel will switch to the destruction of Iranian power infrastructure and oil and gas industry
and a week later, Iran collapses

Israel doesn't need the USA's meager help. except for Walmart of Weapons R US
Iran and Russia are now China's suka

so this is all about china as well

if you studied the trajectory of the USA's relationship with Japan in the 1930s
then you can understand the future of China and USA and the WAR that's ALREADY under way

it's why I own multiple residences outside the USA
far away from the USA's electrical grid

China is the most dangerous enemy the USA has ever faced in it's history

[Trenchcoat]

I am thankful! Just nervous if we get involved.

The better choice is to get involved and deal with Iran once and for all. Once their military is degraded then they will be exposed as weak and increasingly vulnerable. The bigger threat is fear but once involved and destroying Iran's military that fear will soon disscipate and people will wonder why we didn't take out Iran's military all along. The Iranian regime relies on its military and religious nutters.

That said I think boots in the ground should be avoided at all costs, that will give Iranians a target to attack and show Iranians who the enemy is. That mistake was made in Iraq and Afghanistan. I agree with Krim in that using Israel as a proxy is the most effective way and Israel has been doing a good job so far. However, the US may have to step in to take out fordow:

http://news.sky.com/story/the-one-bunker-buster-bomb-israel-could-use-to-hit-irans-secretive-fordow-enrichment-plant-13384914

Getting all of the nuclear programme in Iran is important for future world security. However, potentially the US doesn't necessarily need to take out the facility straight away. Waiting for Iran's military & economic power to be degraded might be best first.

Toppling the Iranian regime is probably the best for long term peace & security in the area.

[krimster2]

pretty soon, Trump will say, "the Iranians are eating the dogs and cats"
and they're taking jobs away from Right Wing Terrorists
we had to bomb Tehran to save Tehran

been there, done that, got the t-shirt and scars and drug addiction for my efforts
but other than that the Play was quite exciting, at first I thought Lincoln getting shot was just part of the performance
what a plot twist
the actor did it

when they said "break a leg"...he did, what a performance, just like a Tom Cruze stunt
America! Phuque YEAH!!!

where every nutjob with a pistol is a super hero riding a rocket to infamy

[olgac]

oldie but goodie esp at the end

[krimster2]

I remember that one!!!!  it was funny!!!

http://x.com/TheMossadIL/status/1935715039190585827/photo/1

looks like Iran is running out of either rockets or rocket launchers

it means Israel will sonn start attacking Iranian energy and oil and gas
the entire place will collapse and is already a tinderbox ready to catch fire

the world needs to have a plan for what happens when Iran collapses and Islamic radicals start freaking out about not having ANY money any more

you break it, you gotta fix it
what kinda minerals deal will Trump get for Barron Von Ribben Trump in Iran?

what I really wonder...is who...wrote the book of love and why do fools fall in love


the first time I got a little girl to "show me hers" I expected to see something more or less like my own
but instead, I saw what looked like what I described to my friends as "a little butt in front"

I was like WTF happened to yur "thing" ?????
and slightly worried it might happen to me, so I wanted to learn the details
that did not turn out the way I expected it to

[Trenchcoat]

Latest is that Russia's economy looks like it's about to hit the wall:

http://kyivindependent.com/russia-on-the-verge-of-recession-russian-economy-minister-warns/

After the boost from spend out on the war comes the eventual, inevitable and unstoppable decline due to money being sucked out of the economy on the war and inflation screwing up businesses leading to business failure and an ever increasing economic decline.

This will go on until the whole Russian economy collapses. The longer Ukraine can hold out and keep the war on the worse Russia's economy gets and the better prospect of victory for Ukraine becomes.

[Trenchcoat]

Why on earth some people decide they want to intervene and save a regime that endangers all on this planet I don't know. Do-gooders doing bad in search of soothing their ego it seems. The UK and the EU are to hold talks with Iran

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c994v4gm9jmt

[krimster2]

you think a recession will bother Putin? LOL!!!!
you have no idea of the meaning of "DEPRESSION" until you visit the Russian interior, the economy and the people are already DEEPLY DEPRESSED...
getting transferred to the front line in Ukraine would be a blessing to some poor malchick from central Russia who lives with outdoor plumbing and dirt roads during rainy season

the russian economy is split between the 'military economy' and the civilian economy"
the military economy is expanding at the expense of the civilian one
if yur in the Russian lower middle class you better try to get a job in the military economy or you're phuqued and barely make enough to live cuz of war inflation and shortages

someone needs to offer Iran an EASY exit ramp, cuz the Ayatollah is a dumb ass with his finger stuck in his butt, and has no freakin idea of WTF to do
and the UK or France would be the pick for that
here Ayatollah, sign ze paper

Ukraine is running out of EVERYTHING thanks to Trump
and is closer to a financial collapse than Russia
and the USA is NOT all that far behind them

the Russian economy is an "extractive economy"
if they need more money or more peasants, they "extract them"
they have a pretty big inventory of peasants and minerals and fossil fuels, they could fight for centuries
as long as the dumb ass Russian peasants are too cowardly to organize and "stand up" like they are in the USA and did in Ukraine

NO KINGS or CZARS
throw off your chains


Blues Harmonica

when I set my sea monkeys free
there were sea monkeys driving ladas to Washing Tundy Sea

happy juneteenth ya'll - we FREE!
moonshine and watermelon rine
as far as the eye can see

PS
to win the war in Ukraine....Putin needs to do two things

1. replace Zelensky with Poroshenko
2. a break-out from Belarus in Sept, combined with secret reserves thrown into kharkhiv and Kherson to sow panic and defeatism in Ukraine

otherwise, Ukraine has to survive the Trump presidency until a democrat takes office
if Ukraine had Biden's level of support, Russia would be shredded

you no longer have to go to Ukraine to date young Ukrainian women
they're all over now
RWD is all "istoriya starry den" and NOT about TODAY tovarische

tomorrow will be even worse
when the first, shall become last
and chinese sex tourists will be roaming post-collapse American trailer parks in their Kunk Pao self-driving electric cars, cuz they can't drive worth a damn and they're always runnin in to stuff
idjuts

MS-13 will sell the Chinese in America their krisha, cuz they're gonna need it!!!!
Slovo!