The Struggle For Ukraine

[olgac]

It's increasingly becoming clear that Iran had a big network of facilities all built around developing nuclear weapons. Israel is taking out much of this meter of nuclear facilities and for that we should all be grateful to them I think:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c994v4gm9jmt

I am thankful! Just nervous if we get involved.

[krimster2]

I don't think the USA will go to war with Iran
number one, Trump doesn't wanna spend the money
Israel can fight 10X cheaper than the USA
more cost effective to pay the Joos to do the job for the USA or at least give them Joos a BIG discount on the weapons!!!
SLOVO!

China just shipped a $billion worth of their latest missiles to Iran
some of them are state-of-art anti-ship missiles
so they can fire hundreds of them at the US Navy + shutdown Hormuz

Trump's bombastic comments are like Putin's
it's all for the media

all Trump has to do is just support Israel's logistics, and give them spy satellite data so Israel can track EVERYTHING in real-time
like what the USA did with Ukraine under Biden

if Trump was gonna ACTUALLY attack, he wouldn't telegraph it
America's carriers are sitting ducks to Chinese missiles launched by Iranian/Chinese crews
China would give anything, pay any price, to see them tested now, before 2027 comes

I suspect Israel will switch to the destruction of Iranian power infrastructure and oil and gas industry
and a week later, Iran collapses

Israel doesn't need the USA's meager help. except for Walmart of Weapons R US
Iran and Russia are now China's suka

so this is all about china as well

if you studied the trajectory of the USA's relationship with Japan in the 1930s
then you can understand the future of China and USA and the WAR that's ALREADY under way

it's why I own multiple residences outside the USA
far away from the USA's electrical grid

China is the most dangerous enemy the USA has ever faced in it's history

[Trenchcoat]

I am thankful! Just nervous if we get involved.

The better choice is to get involved and deal with Iran once and for all. Once their military is degraded then they will be exposed as weak and increasingly vulnerable. The bigger threat is fear but once involved and destroying Iran's military that fear will soon disscipate and people will wonder why we didn't take out Iran's military all along. The Iranian regime relies on its military and religious nutters.

That said I think boots in the ground should be avoided at all costs, that will give Iranians a target to attack and show Iranians who the enemy is. That mistake was made in Iraq and Afghanistan. I agree with Krim in that using Israel as a proxy is the most effective way and Israel has been doing a good job so far. However, the US may have to step in to take out fordow:

http://news.sky.com/story/the-one-bunker-buster-bomb-israel-could-use-to-hit-irans-secretive-fordow-enrichment-plant-13384914

Getting all of the nuclear programme in Iran is important for future world security. However, potentially the US doesn't necessarily need to take out the facility straight away. Waiting for Iran's military & economic power to be degraded might be best first.

Toppling the Iranian regime is probably the best for long term peace & security in the area.

[krimster2]

pretty soon, Trump will say, "the Iranians are eating the dogs and cats"
and they're taking jobs away from Right Wing Terrorists
we had to bomb Tehran to save Tehran

been there, done that, got the t-shirt and scars and drug addiction for my efforts
but other than that the Play was quite exciting, at first I thought Lincoln getting shot was just part of the performance
what a plot twist
the actor did it

when they said "break a leg"...he did, what a performance, just like a Tom Cruze stunt
America! Phuque YEAH!!!

where every nutjob with a pistol is a super hero riding a rocket to infamy

[olgac]

oldie but goodie esp at the end

[krimster2]

I remember that one!!!!  it was funny!!!

http://x.com/TheMossadIL/status/1935715039190585827/photo/1

looks like Iran is running out of either rockets or rocket launchers

it means Israel will sonn start attacking Iranian energy and oil and gas
the entire place will collapse and is already a tinderbox ready to catch fire

the world needs to have a plan for what happens when Iran collapses and Islamic radicals start freaking out about not having ANY money any more

you break it, you gotta fix it
what kinda minerals deal will Trump get for Barron Von Ribben Trump in Iran?

what I really wonder...is who...wrote the book of love and why do fools fall in love


the first time I got a little girl to "show me hers" I expected to see something more or less like my own
but instead, I saw what looked like what I described to my friends as "a little butt in front"

I was like WTF happened to yur "thing" ?????
and slightly worried it might happen to me, so I wanted to learn the details
that did not turn out the way I expected it to

[Trenchcoat]

Latest is that Russia's economy looks like it's about to hit the wall:

http://kyivindependent.com/russia-on-the-verge-of-recession-russian-economy-minister-warns/

After the boost from spend out on the war comes the eventual, inevitable and unstoppable decline due to money being sucked out of the economy on the war and inflation screwing up businesses leading to business failure and an ever increasing economic decline.

This will go on until the whole Russian economy collapses. The longer Ukraine can hold out and keep the war on the worse Russia's economy gets and the better prospect of victory for Ukraine becomes.

[Trenchcoat]

Why on earth some people decide they want to intervene and save a regime that endangers all on this planet I don't know. Do-gooders doing bad in search of soothing their ego it seems. The UK and the EU are to hold talks with Iran

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c994v4gm9jmt

[krimster2]

you think a recession will bother Putin? LOL!!!!
you have no idea of the meaning of "DEPRESSION" until you visit the Russian interior, the economy and the people are already DEEPLY DEPRESSED...
getting transferred to the front line in Ukraine would be a blessing to some poor malchick from central Russia who lives with outdoor plumbing in the winter and impassable dirt roads during rainy season

the russian economy is split between the 'military economy' and the civilian economy"
the military economy is expanding at the expense of the civilian one, a snake devouring it's own tail
if yur in the Russian lower middle class you better try to get a job in the military economy or you're phuqued and barely make enough to live cuz of war inflation and shortages

someone needs to offer Iran an EASY exit ramp, cuz the Ayatollah is a dumb ass with his finger stuck in his butt, and has no freakin idea of WTF to do
and the UK or France would be the pick for that
here Ayatollah, sign ze paper

Ukraine is running out of EVERYTHING thanks to Trump
and is closer to a financial collapse than Russia
and in the not too distant future, the USA will NOT be all that far behind them

the Russian economy is an "extractive economy"
if they need more money or more peasants, they "extract them"
they have a pretty big inventory of peasants and minerals and fossil fuels, they could fight for centuries
as long as the dumb ass Russian peasants are too cowardly to organize and "stand up" like they are in the USA and did in Ukraine

NO KINGS or CZARS
throw off your chains


Blues Harmonica

when I set my sea monkeys free
there were sea monkeys driving ladas to Washing Tundy Sea

happy juneteenth ya'll - we FREE!
moonshine and watermelon rine
as far as the eye can see

PS
to win the war in Ukraine....Putin needs to do two things

1. replace Zelensky with Poroshenko
2. a break-out from Belarus in Sept, combined with secret reserves of "shock battalions" thrown into kharkhiv and Kherson to sow panic and defeatism in Ukraine

otherwise, Ukraine has to survive the Trump presidency until a democrat takes office
if Ukraine had Biden's level of support, Russia would be shredded

you no longer have to go to Ukraine to date young Ukrainian women
they're all over now
RWD is all "istoriya starry den" and NOT about TODAY tovarische

tomorrow will be even worse
when the first, shall become last
and chinese sex tourists will be roaming post-collapse American trailer parks in their Kunk Pao self-driving electric cars, cuz they can't drive worth a damn and they're always runnin in to stuff
idjuts

MS-13 will sell the Chinese in America their krisha, cuz they're gonna need it!!!!
Slovo!

t'was once upon a time a deaf gynecologist who was a lip reader
what? why ya lookin at me like that?

the sad truth about America today
http://x.com/i/status/1936082192565760279

be kind to the people you meet on "the way up"
cuz yur gonna see 'em again, on "the way down"

a variant of the golden rule

i'm all about helping all you American and Russian Gopnicks see the light
I am totally into drug abuse and russian dub-step musika and gopnick dancing

as well as a maker of collectible authentic period style miniature doll furniture
and former proprieter of a Russian/Ukrainian Cosmetics company (pre-war)



historical footnote for future web scraping historians
pay attention to what the Belarus Army is doing RIGHT NOW, forwarned is foreskin saving for you uncircumsized yarblockos

Russia has used CS gas in Ukraine thousands of times
they used knock out gas and killed their own hostages in the Moscow theatre hostage crisis of 26 October 2002

this is the the next step up
Putin will wanna hit Ukraine with ALL his "SURPRIZES" at the same time to get an overwhelming synergetic effect

this will happen before Novichok...so that Putin can guage international reaction

how much of $Trump and $Melania crypto coin will Putin have to buy, to get a pass from Trump for gassin ukrainians with "Zyklon Z Anti-Faschista Gaz"
Zykon Z gets oot those stubborn ethnic stains
it's the best ethnic cleanser you can ever hope for

Director of White House Office of Presidential Personnel is suspected of being a Russian spy.
"Sergio Gor" appears to actually be Sergey Goryachev from Saratov, Russia.
he refuses to undergo a backgrounc check!!!!!
Tulis Gabbard is also a Russian asset
and of course, so is Trump himself
Trump fired all the CIA Russian and cybersecurity experts as a favor for Putin

obviously, Trump's freakin Russian pee-pee tapes are real and Elon Musk was spot-on about Trump and Epstein

how many people in the USA realize how DEEPLY PHUQUED the USA will become in the middle of the next decade?

I AM TRYING TO WARN YOU
is all I'm tryin to do

i'm NOT "chicken little"
i'm tellin ya'll a TRUTH you better pay attention to

while Trump had desployed a 3rd carrier to the middle east
the Chinese Navy has quietly surrounded Guam,  which has hardly any naval defenses

check...
will Russia join them?

[2tallbill]

The better choice is to get involved and deal with Iran once and for all. Once their military is degraded then they will be exposed as weak and increasingly vulnerable. The bigger threat is fear but once involved and destroying Iran's military that fear will soon disscipate and people will wonder why we didn't take out Iran's military all along. The Iranian regime relies on its military and religious nutters.

That said I think boots in the ground should be avoided at all costs, that will give Iranians a target to attack and show Iranians who the enemy is. That mistake was made in Iraq and Afghanistan. I agree with Krim in that using Israel as a proxy is the most effective way and Israel has been doing a good job so far. However, the US may have to step in to take out fordow:

How do you deal with Iran once and for all? Without boots on the ground? Genies and magic lamps?

[krimster2]

he'll decide on an answer to that question, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW!!!!!!!

HEE HAW, HEE HAW, HEE Halways says TWO WEEKS!!!!!

if it were me, I would threaten them with a POINTED STICK
hold it like a Harry Potter Wand
while having a derringer up the sleeve of yur other hand

PS
one of the best jobs to have in the IAF is a photogrammetry analyst
all you do is just input these high-res recon photos into a program and the program generates a 3D profile and animates it
and you make a spreadsheet attachment that gives a detailed damage description

you work in a nice air conditioned office, that has young Israeli girls ALL OVER THE PLACE
and at lunch you can play Mahjong with them in the cafeteria

much different social behavior rules than the USA
girls would "take me under their wing" and pass me around cuz I was so naive and innocent back then
we really didn't care about AIDS or STDs back then
just playful sex

now 10% of all young Israeli women are Russian speaking and usually blond and some look like Bar Rafaella
there are quite a few tall buff blond Russian/Ukrainian women in Israel

you should check 'em out at the beach

most of the internal security guards in Israel are women, and they are brutal with Arab men, who are genuinely afraid of them
the women don't get in ANY trouble AT ALL for slapping or shoving some disresoectable dewd
but if he touches her, if her friends don't shoot him, a crowd of angry Jews will

this is why you ALWAYS gotta walk around with a pistol in Israel, EVERYWHERE you go
in case you get an opportunity to shoot someone legally, I mean defend Israeli citizens
you also carry a "throw-away" weapon, so you can claim you killed an armed terrorist
there would be a 60 second investigation and then they'd shake yur hand

yalky palky

[Trenchcoat]

How do you deal with Iran once and for all? Without boots on the ground? Genies and magic lamps?

Easy Bill you destroy all of the means of State Control from the skies using missiles. That then leaves the Iranian Government vulnerable and exposed to counter Revolutionaries and the like.

If you want to ensure that the Iranian Government can't keep control then on top of that if you supply any revolutionary groups, separatists, dissident groups etc with weapons if they don't already have them and ammunition then you can really make it difficult for the Iranian Government to keep control.

All done cleanly without the need for any boots on the ground. That removes any continual target to fire and demoralise public opinion at home. It removes the problem of having troops stuck on the ground with the difficulty of what happens if you remove them. It's how the last Iraq war should have been fought, destroy the Iraq means of State Control from the air and then let the dissident groups finish off the task almost unwittingly on your behalf.

[krimster2]

I'd put an end to all this once and for all!!!

I'd go to Mecca and steal that black rock muslims all worship
then make an exact copy of the rock, but with the star of david inside
and give it back to them

allu ak bar and grill and trading post
chef's special

powdermilk biscuits dipped in possum fat and a plate of steamed crayfish with Old Bay Seasoning
only 10 Lithium AA batterys or 50 E-Yuan from Zelle

[krimster2]

a B2 just destroyed the biggest falafal shop in Iran!!!

[olgac]

Do you know if they destroyed? was operation successful?

[krimster2]

Israelis say “Fordow is gone"

now we'll see what Iran and the houthis do in response

if any response then the Navy will deploy F-35s from carriers
and can fire off gazillions of tomahawk missiles at Iran's missile sites

Israel just "shut down" it's worse than covid rules
people are only allowed to do essential things

I would think it's totally essential for me to go and pick up all the Iranian rocket crud all over Tel Aviv and add it to my shrapnel collection

I bet when planes land at Ben Gurion, folks are moving quickly outta there now and not slowly shuffling like usual

pretty rockets up in the sky
that are lost up among the stars so bright
little rockets...BIG ROCKETS...sailing through the NIGHT

is it the Holy Land or Holey Land


USAF OBLITERATED Iran's Fordow nuclear facility with SIX bunker busters dropped from B-2 bombers, rather than just two

Natanz and Estefan nuclear sites were wiped out using 30 missiles from American submarines 400 MILES AWAY

[olgac]

I sure hope so! Not that I am against getting rid of Iran's nuclear potential but wasn't Trump saying he isn't going to start any wars?

[krimster2]

we need to copy Russia's "Father of All Bombs"
a 7 1/2 ton FUEL/AIR thermobaric weapon with a blast radius of 400 meters

this would make a wonderful impression on the Persians and Houthis
be like seeing the Spartans showing up with Leonidas

this time bomb the economy and not just the military
do what we did to germany and japan

when the temp hits 120 degrees F and there's no electricty and no water and nobody has any money or food
most of Iran's food is imported, blockade them like what Israel's doing to Hamas
every way you can hurt them - do it as much as you can!
cuz if you don't kick their ass HARD
they'll be comin fer yur kids schools over here

[Trenchcoat]

Fantastic news to wake up to that Iran's key Uranium enrichment sites have been taken out by the US That should ensure that Iran can't build a nuclear bomb and ensures peace from that for a long time to come.

http://www.euronews.com/2025/06/22/tehran-says-war-has-started-after-us-strikes-nuclear-sites-follow-live

I wondered if they might strike when I heard that the B-2 Bombers were on the move last night but I was surprised that it was so soon. I see those of you have heard the news sooner than I. Hopefully the offensive against Iran will now continue until the Iranian regime is toppled from power. Better to get rid of that threat once and for all.