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Likewise, how about UK simply nationalize the billions of housing owned by Russians?
So who has most at risk, UK or Russian citizens?

lol that would only come at a state of war id venture ML 

the UK is way to polite and gentlmanly to go and nationalise other states assets

this is about a united public shaming of russia imo . not about fiscal penalties to either state at present
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Ms Skripal has used the UK Metropolitan Police to release a statement

http://www.rt.com/uk/423864-yulia-skripal-statement-police/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=push_notifications&utm_campaign=push_notifications

Certain sources have suggested she may have been abducted against her will....
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Interestingly,  although the RT news links to it, the wording in Ms Skripal's statement is softer than the RT headline suggests and makes it clear that her cousin's views are somewhat at odds.

http://news.met.police.uk/news/statement-issued-on-behalf-of-yulia-skripal-302508

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Spoke to a Russian friend who says the nerve agent can be in a binary format and only when two substances combine, does it become active..


Could be it was administered in two places...


From the BBC, today ..

"Some of the agents are also said to be "binary weapons", meaning the nerve agent is typically stored as two less toxic chemical ingredients that are easier to handle.

When these are mixed, they react to produce the active toxic agent which can cause convulsions, shortness of breath, profuse sweating and nausea.



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Just watching "Sum of all fears" - loosely based on a Tom Clancy novel

Renegade Russian generals use Novichok - a new binary nerve agent to shell Grozny ...

Couldn't believe it ....

Tom Clancy employed ex- Soviet, US and UK military advisers

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Where have you been?

In his book, Debt of Honor, 1994, Clancy introduced terrorism by using Commercial Aircraft to take down buildings, well before September 11th.  In it, a Japanese pilot crashes a 747 into the Capital, taking out the sitting government.

What is never spoken about is that taking control of a plane and purposely crashing it was actually practiced before September 11th in Egypt, in 1999.  The US had ample warning that such was a terror premise that was being looked at by Al Queda.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=82910&page=1
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Where have you been?

In his book, Debt of Honor, 1994, Clancy introduced terrorism by using Commercial Aircraft to take down buildings, well before September 11th.  In it, a Japanese pilot crashes a 747 into the Capital, taking out the sitting government.

What is never spoken about is that taking control of a plane and purposely crashing it was actually practiced before September 11th in Egypt, in 1999.  The US had ample warning that such was a terror premise that was being looked at by Al Queda.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=82910&page=1

While not a purposely oriented crash. The power of an airplane hitting a building was clearly demonstrated when ElAl flight 1862 hit an apartment building called the Bijlmermeer in 1992.
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While not a purposely oriented crash. The power of an airplane hitting a building was clearly demonstrated when ElAl flight 1862 hit an apartment building called the Bijlmermeer in 1992.

This is one of the stories told in the terrific Canadian series "Mayday - Air Disaster."  We have two different series of the programme showing at the moment on different TV channels, one being new (to us - it's two years old) and the other a repeat of a series from seven or eight years ago.  It's still enthralling to watch.
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Now the Russian government is saying there never was a poisoning and the Skripals are dead. Vladimir Chizhov, the Russian Ambassador to the EU, said that since the UK government isn't allowing evidence to be public that the poisoning didn't happen and the Skripals may be dead.

I'm waiting for the Russian government to say that it's all a conspiracy being planned and run by space aliens. Give it a couple more weeks and I'm sure some Russian official or agency will mention space aliens in regard to the Skripals.   

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/salisbury-spy-poisoning-russia-claims-skripals-dead-094746142.html

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The power of an airplane hitting a building was clearly demonstrated when ElAl flight 1862 hit an apartment building called the Bijlmermeer in 1992.
Even a small plane can cause substantial damage. In April 2002 a Rockwell Commander piloted by a confused Swiss on his way to Milan's Linate airport hit the 26th floor of "Pirellone", a high-rise office building originally for Pirelli next to the Central Railway station, starting a fire that caused 3 deaths and 70 wounded.

 

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Back on topic

It was GREAT to see Ms Skipal reading her statement and making it clear to 'useful IDIOTS' ( hello Bounder - who is posting 'bollox' about my private life - in another place - with the protection of Kremlin stooges who allow it to go unresponded to ) who are suggesting that she might be being held 'against her will'

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44232346

http://www.bbc.com/news/video_and_audio/headlines/44232096/yulia-skripal-we-are-so-lucky-to-survive

She makes it CLEAR that she hopes to return to Russia - but doesn't want Russian Embassy assistance AND that  'no-one' speaks for her family - except her and her Dad....

So much for the 'coz  ..

I wonder what the UK Ambassador will be claiming now - for home consumption

Here's a hoot..from Russia Todays - quoting Maria Zakharova - Russia's Foreign Ministry Spokesperson :

http://www.rt.com/news/427574-julia-skripal-first-interview/

Following the release of the interview, Russia’s Foreign Ministry spokeswoman addressed Yulia Skripal in a comment to RT.

“We’d like Yulia Skripal to know that not a single day passed without the Foreign Ministry, Russia’s embassy in London trying to reach her with the main purpose to make sure she was not held against her will, she was not impersonated by somebody else, to get the first-hand information about her and her father’s condition,” Maria Zakharova said.



It seems, the likes of Bounder will still fall for this BS.





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Jeez,

JUST found this

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-43820894/the-man-who-made-novichok

A man who made Novichok is certain that Moscow ordered it ....

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Jeez,

JUST found this

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-43820894/the-man-who-made-novichok

A man who made Novichok is certain that Moscow ordered it ....

May end up in a withdrawal of visas for Russians, if they are seen as too much of a risk as who knows which of them might be Russian agents out on a mission to poison, etc. Likewise Russia will retalate by ending UK visas to Russia. My guess it will happen after the World Cup now that is so close though announcements could be made in advance of the action so any time soon is no doubt possible.
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Roman Abramovich - the owner of Chelsea Football Club is apparently having trouble getting his visa renewed...

If this is true, then Alisher Usmanov - a major shareholder in Arsenal FC will have the same issues - as Navalny has suggested his money sponsors Medvedev's lifestyle

The Kremlin took action to silence Navalny and his investigators - after they claimed to expose these Oligarch's close relations to the Kremlin and trying to stifle Navalny  ..the US sanctioned him...


http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/13/investing/oleg-deripasaka-rusal-us-sanctions/index.html

Oleg Deripasaka ay now be now ruing his close association




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VVP not getting his own way ?

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/putin-demands-russian-consular-access-to-yulia-skripal/ar-AAykJNn?ocid=ems.display.welcomeexperience&MSCC=1528385228

Mr President - did you not understand Yulia Skripal ?

As for " if the poison was ours - they'd be dead " ....    :deadhorse:

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Russia getting some payback due to their diplomats being expelled or just toying with the UK?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/police-2-more-exposed-to-same-nerve-agent-that-sickened-spy/ar-AAzysSl?ocid=spartanntp
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Yesterday, it seems, there was a threat to discontinue RT in GB. 


Hmm,  so RT would still be available in N.Ireland...

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Was reading on mail.ru yesterday that Yulia Skripal's cousin has been denied a visa to see Julia multiple times.  Hmm.  I wonder why? 
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Was reading on mail.ru yesterday that Yulia Skripal's cousin has been denied a visa to see Julia multiple times.  Hmm.  I wonder why?

Yulia's cousin should be thankful for being alive. Yulia's uncle died mysteriously in 2016 and her brother died mysteriously while on vacation in 2017. Of course she and her father was on schedule to die this year.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5473953/Exclusive-pictures-Salisbury-Russian-spy-family.html
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uhhh I hope our friends across the pond realize what happened
the Novichok used in the UK was a BINARY Novichok
you can't ship pre-mixed Novichok an accident on the plane, before the plane, etc
besides the other binary agent is too bulky
you just want the organo-phosphor part of the binary agent
and get the secondary ingredient which is iso-alcohol available at the drug store
right across from where this sample was found and next to the park playground
which is probably mixed it

hey MI5!

look at video from drug store from day before to day of Skipral poisoning
your culprits will be buying rubbing alcohol there


вы думаете, что любой из этих людей, даже российских, подозревает, что я русский?

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uhhh I hope our friends across the pond realize what happened
the Novichok used in the UK was a BINARY Novichok
you can't ship pre-mixed Novichok an accident on the plane, before the plane, etc
besides the other binary agent is too bulky
you just want the organo-phosphor part of the binary agent
and get the secondary ingredient which is iso-alcohol available at the drug store
right across from where this sample was found and next to the park playground
which is probably mixed it

hey MI5!

look at video from drug store from day before to day of Skipral poisoning
your culprits will be buying rubbing alcohol there

Even the would be killers wouldn't be that dumb.  MI5 might be.
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it also means they were in and out of UK fast!
maybe even 1-2 days
and there was a separate surveillance team
who called them in just for the hit
and who also never actually made physical contact
cell phone records from closest tower
on days before and day of skripal poisoning
will show calls to untraceable phones
вы думаете, что любой из этих людей, даже российских, подозревает, что я русский?

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it's likely the surveillance team is still there
track the untraceable numbers from skripal pharmacy
and plot their calls with all other cell towers on a map
this is where the surveillance team is located
вы думаете, что любой из этих людей, даже российских, подозревает, что я русский?

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Even the would be killers wouldn't be that dumb.  MI5 might be.

THAT bored, today, Jone ? ....

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look at video from drug store from day before to day of Skipral poisoning
your culprits will be buying rubbing alcohol there


Ah Ha! So Russia was right that the nerve agent was made in the UK!

So UK is going to spend a ton of money investigating yet another assassination or an attempt at one by way of WMDs and do nothing significant to discourage Russia from exporting more poisons into their country.
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