2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)

[GQBlues]

There's a segment in this video that I will caution taking with a grain of salt. The part about militarization of COVID experiments. Watching the video, I can't help but wonder if any of these guys work as a part-time (800) customer service for one of the US's merchants. They sound like one of the guys I spoke with over the weekend about my magicjack service.

It's really gotten to be a very small world indeedy!

[BillyB]

The drive thru vaccinations may be the norm like emissions testing. Provides jobs and keeps the air and body clean.

[ML]

The Covid test wife just took before her trip to Ukraine was the drive thru type.

It was at Walgreens Pharmacy and no one even came to the car.

Just went to drive thru lane like picking up a prescription.

Talked via mics, the little door slid open with a sealed nose swab in the tray.

Told wife to swab both nostrils, then put swab back into the container, seal it, and we put back in the tray and returned via the little door.

[BillyB]

Couple of Facebook employees came out and said Facebook has an algorithm that suppresses speech if your posts are against vaccines. Those promoting vaccines get a higher score which distributes their posts more. They say Facebook doesn't want a society of free speech. They want a society that complies with the narrative. They suppressed people posts who talked good about Trump and bad about the election so it doesn't surprise me big tech will suppress other issues if it doesn't fit the narrative. They want us to be stupid sheeple. They're scared we can think freely and educate each other properly.

[tfcrew]

The media is back peddling on the lab issue. At one time in the past [we may remember] it was considered a conspiracy theory---_______________________________________________________________________

When Nicholson Baker wrote a cover story for New York laying out the evidence that COVID-19 may have originated in a lab in Wuhan, China, the hypothesis was still highly controversial. In the months that have followed, and especially over the last week, it’s gained more and more credibility. A week ago, 18 prominent scientists signed a letter published in Science calling for an open investigation into the virus’s origins. This weekend, the Wall Street Journal reported that U.S. intelligence believes three researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology became sick enough in November 2019 to require hospitalization, lending even more credence to the possibility of a lab leak.
The hypothesis is far from proven. But this account of the virus’s origins is highly plausible, and at least as well-grounded as the original story of an infection that naturally leapt from a bat to a person.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/05/lab-leak-liberal-media-theory-china-wuhan-lab-cotton-trump.html

[BillyB]

The media is back peddling on the lab issue. At one time in the past [we may remember] it was considered a conspiracy theory---_______________________________________________________________________

Somebody posted a recent CNN video showing CNN personnel blaming Trump for not revealing that the virus came from a lab citing he didn't provide evidence. Lol. MSM hammered Trump and Pompeo last year for revealing the virus came from a lab. Pompeo said Fauci had the same info he did and Fauci dismissed the lab theory last year and Fauci said China is being transparent.


http://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/05/24/pompeo-fauci-had-the-same-information-i-had-when-he-dismissed-lab-leak-theory/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+breitbart+%28Breitbart+News%29



Wuhan lab staff was sick Nov 2019.  My uncle who was touring China on a train said his train was forbidden to go into Wuhan Nov 15th. They had to go around the city.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/intelligence-on-sick-staff-at-wuhan-lab-fuels-debate-on-covid-19-origin-11621796228


Tucker Carson said Thai intelligence warned Fauci of a biological anomaly in Wuhan Nov 2019. I'd post the video but it disappeared. Lots of the Youtube videos I post on the virus and election fraud disappear.

[GQBlues]

The media is back peddling on the lab issue. At one time in the past [we may remember] it was considered a conspiracy theory---

Sheeple numero Uno Jen Psaki was asked if the Biden administration deemed this matter serious enough to dive deeper into the real origin of COVID-19, to which she answered they're taking this VERY seriously and had once again repeatedly their request to WHO to probe deeper into the matter and send another team of delegates into China and into Wuhan...

LMAO!!! If the Biden Admin. is serious about this matter, they'd do it themselves and not rely on WHO, that is already known to be a snuggle bear to China. That's for starters. Secondly, it would be sooo much easier to get the money trail of US funds got Wuhan for g-o-f experiments when it was already banned, halted, suspended, paused, levied moratorium, etc. in 2014; or whatever else BillyB wanna call it.


All they would have to do to begin with is call flaky Lyin' Anthony Fauci.

[GQBlues]

Trump was vilified by the democrat and biased media for this.

Now everyone is walking back their stupidity including moron Fauci.

[GQBlues]

Awesome commentary. 2016-2020 is an illustration US politics (Democrat) cronyism, fully supported by our society's elite-backed media.

[tfcrew]

[tfcrew]

BillyB,...It's not just China blaming 'the west' ..YOU blamed the Chinese ... suggesting it had 'escaped from a biolab'..Seeing any common denominator ? ...

As it stands now...Perhaps they are both right---
It apparently escaped from a Wuhan lab that is funded by the USA and Fauci was lying every step of the way.
What are we [the USA] doing funding a Chinese biology laboratory?

[tfcrew]

Then I mentioned and speculated about the Asiatic regions' love for their wet markets aka snake alleys, where there's a section of the markets where caged live animals of all types are offered and prepared as fresh meat, and I wasn't too far off apparently...

Actually it was. We learned that the Wuhan market was closed but then re-opened 3 days later... ...   No such markets were ever closed in other large cities. What does that tell us?

[ML]

What does that tell us?

That they ran out of bat meat ?

[GQBlues]

Actually it was. We learned that the Wuhan market was closed but then re-opened 3 days later... ...   No such markets were ever closed in other large cities. What does that tell us?

I do believe the media is the principal culprit into this whole fiasco, just like with everything else that had been happening for the past 6-12+ years. The curtain opened when those Greek columns were brought on to the stage 2008.

This is what Live Science said back in April/May 2020:

 http://www.livescience.com/covid-19-did-not-start-at-wuhan-wet-market.html

Instead, the live animal market may have been the site of a superspreader event, where one person spread the virus to many other people, one US-based expert told Live Science...

Two things to note:
1. You have two guesses on who this 'US-based expert is. If you guess Fauci or Dr. Baric, you stand a great chance at being right.
2. The quote above is very careful on being definitive. While it didn't debunk or deny the possible lab origin of the virus, it also didn't specify that the genesis was caused by zoonotic process. One of the sick staffer that is now being brought forward may have in fact been in a 'wet market' before he even knew he was already infected.

Bottom line, Dr. Anthony Fauci ought to run for POTUS in 2024. With this entire mess unfolding, he's the prototypical Democrat candidate for the highest office in our land these days.

[tfcrew]

Quote from: tfcrew on March 11, 2020, 06:14:45 PM

The Communist leadership over there said to knock it off [blaming them for the virus] or we will get no more medicines [97% made in China]
  http://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-what-are-symptoms-fast-facts-china-wuhan-virus-death-toll/
Most of these videos have been removed in compliance with Beijing's orders.
Mark my words...Mr Joe Biden will bow to the Chinese ---his butt in the air.

world health organization praised china for it's response to the virus...it seems that those in the know disagree with how you are directing your anger.

Oh! The World Health Organization? Never did anything for me. But the WHO are 'people in the know'? Just ask Anthony Fauci.
What I said about Biden means that I am angry? If I had said it about Donald Trump though ..it would win praise from the global minded.
Meanwhile how about the attention payed to----China’s Influence in Mexico and Central America:

China’s Investment’s in Mexico and Central America: Panama has received $3.16 billion in investments from China since 2005, the largest investment in the region, with additional investments following Panama’s establishment of official ties with the PRC in 2017.
 

• $2.52 billion of this total investment has gone to the country’s transport sector with much of it focused on development related to the Panama Canal.

Since 2005 China has invested $3 billion in Mexico
 

• $2.26 billion of this investment was in Mexico’s energy sector with the rest divided among the logistics, metals and transports sectors.

Other Central American countries have also received investments from China including $700 million in Guatemala’s technology sector and $810 million in Costa Rica’s transport, entertainment and technology sectors.

http://gop-foreignaffairs.house.gov/mexico-and-central-america/
"Investments"...Then why are all these immigration people coming to the USA ? Why not immigrate to China?

[BillyB]

As it stands now...Perhaps they are both right---
It apparently escaped from a Wuhan lab that is funded by the USA and Fauci was lying every step of the way.
What are we [the USA] doing funding a Chinese biology laboratory?

Good news, Facebook will now stop banning posts that say the virus was man made. I seen a compilation video of Fauci's words last year and this year and he has lied. I always forgave him for the lies on masks so people don't hog them up but some lies aren't excusable.

China is definitely at fault. It's still to be seen if America is at fault. We fund many international projects. We sent money to the Wuhan lab. Why didn't we have a representative over there to make sure our money is spent properly? The virus accidently escaped or was released on purpose by China? Not only do we need to figure out if we funded the development of this virus but we need to figure out if our government was sinister enough to ask China to release it right before an election year. The only way to get an honest investigation on this is to replace our government. Support the audits everyone!

I do believe the media is the principal culprit into this whole fiasco,

Our media is owned by the Democrats. The media doesn't act unless they are told to.

Last year Biden shut down a Trump investigation into the origins of the virus. Now Biden is asking WHO to investigate and asked our intelligence agencies to redouble their efforts. Lol. Of course the investigation results will be whatever they want to be. Fauci won't get fired.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9619349/Biden-shut-effort-prove-theory-COVID-originated-Wuhan-lab-concerns-evidence.html

[BillyB]

Michigan House refunding all money to businesses who were penalized for not following governor's coronavirus rules after Democratic Michigan governor fails to follow her own rules.


http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/05/26/veto-proof-michigan-house-majority-passes-bill-refunding-coronavirus-fines-gretchen-whitmer-hypocrisy/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+breitbart+%28Breitbart+News%29




Fact checking sites have been consistently wrong on the virus and many other issues so Snopes adds a new flexible "False for now" rating which gives them to freedom to flip flop later without looking incompetent.

http://babylonbee.com/news/snopes-introduces-new-rating-false-for-now/


Fauci gets in a debate with past versions of himself and they can't agree on anything.

http://babylonbee.com/news/dr-fauci-gets-in-intense-debate-with-dr-fauci-from-a-few-months-ago

[fathertime]

Planning to hit Las Vegas next week...the buffets are back I hear. 

California is having a lottery with million dollar prizes for people who get their shot.  Trying to coax those of us who haven't got one.   

Overall the system is going to punish those who don't get their shot.  Airlines, countries, maybe hotels, who knows what next.   

Fathertime! 

[Trenchcoat]

UK infection rate edging up a bit now from around 2000's a say to the 3000's as Indian variant makes headway by the sounds of it. I think it's been a bit held in check so far by the ongoing Vaccination campaign down to Vaccinating the early thirties now. So it just remains to be seen whether it will be effective enough once the vaccination program is complete by 31st July or whether we will have a second wave and all need a booster in the Autumn/Winter. Apparently a report out the other day reckoned the vaccine is effective enough against the Indian variant so we'll have to wait and see.

Ukraine's infection rate is down to around the 3000's or so (officially anyway) so will see if it joins the green list in early June, all a bit up in the air that one.

With the virus causing a deadly black fungus out in India I wouldn't be surprised if this was the result of a lab cock up in China probably messing around with the Sars virus to see if they could create a bio-weapon as an military threat to use against its opponents.

[Trenchcoat]

Virus infection rate at around 4000 reported today for yesterday. That's an increase of a thousand over the previous day's reported figure of around 3000 or so infections. That's a big increase over the course of a day, if this keeps up I don't see myself flying anywhere anytime soon. Looks like the Indian variant is likely behind the increase in infection rate.

[BillyB]

Virus infection rate at around 4000 reported today for yesterday. That's an increase of a thousand over the previous day's reported figure of around 3000 or so infections. That's a big increase over the course of a day, if this keeps up I don't see myself flying anywhere anytime soon. Looks like the Indian variant is likely behind the increase in infection rate.

The thing with the vaccines are they lose effectiveness with variants. The experts I posted upthread said if we got the virus, our immune system will work great against the variants. What are they going to do? Make a vaccines for every varient?


COVID-19 has no credible natural ancestor. I've said that early last year and some people told me to listen to the scientists. I knew they were lying to us back then. How many times do these medical scientists have to lie to us before we understand they lie to us?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9629563/Chinese-scientists-created-COVID-19-lab-tried-cover-tracks-new-study-claims.html


Fauci says gain of function research outweighs the risk of a pathogen escaping a lab and causing a pandemic. Somebody should ask him what he thinks about it now.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3484390/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-pathogen-experiments-outweigh-risk-pandemic


2012 Fauci went in Congress to get permission and funding for GOF. Said GOF will benefit society.

[Trenchcoat]

That makes for grim reading Billy. Well virus infection figures down to 3200 Ish today for the previous day so a bit of an improvement. Kind of feared it would be more like up another thousand so gives some hope yet that we may keep this variant in check. They reckon the current vaccine is effective against the Indian variant other later possible variants who knows. If the figures stay down enough maybe, it takes a few weeks for the vaccines to start getting effective so those most recently jabbed for the first time won't have much protection that and some will get it anyway just not as bad as they would have but still show up in the figures. Today's figures going down and not up more give some hope back to the possibility of getting out to the FSU this year.

Countries like India & Brazil I'm guessing remain the big concern as with the present set up it takes way too long if repeat vaccination of such a large population is needed and hence it allows for possible further variants.

[Faux Pas]

That makes for grim reading Billy. Well virus infection figures down to 3200 Ish today for the previous day so a bit of an improvement. Kind of feared it would be more like up another thousand so gives some hope yet that we may keep this variant in check. They reckon the current vaccine is effective against the Indian variant other later possible variants who knows. If the figures stay down enough maybe, it takes a few weeks for the vaccines to start getting effective so those most recently jabbed for the first time won't have much protection that and some will get it anyway just not as bad as they would have but still show up in the figures. Today's figures going down and not up more give some hope back to the possibility of getting out to the FSU this year.

Countries like India & Brazil I'm guessing remain the big concern as with the present set up it takes way too long if repeat vaccination of such a large population is needed and hence it allows for possible further variants.

You never actually listen to anything. You're like a dude with 2 mouths and no ears. At some point, I don't know when but at some point you'll realize that they are lying to you. None of the figures of covid from the beginning have been true or accurate, what makes you think they are now? All viruses mutate and have variants and none of them worse to humans than the original. They're lying to you Trench but I do understand why you fall for it much like you do with your own fantasies about women

[fathertime]

You never actually listen to anything. You're like a dude with 2 mouths and no ears. At some point, I don't know when but at some point you'll realize that they are lying to you. None of the figures of covid from the beginning have been true or accurate, what makes you think they are now? All viruses mutate and have variants and none of them worse to humans than the original. They're lying to you Trench but I do understand why you fall for it much like you do with your own fantasies about women

We are probably idiots for not lining up like good little boys and getting our shot.  It has been a while, but I think I'm on the road to being convinced the shot is the better choice.  That said, I'd like to know before the shot, if I have already had the virus...and if I have, I'd likely refrain from getting the shot. 

Anti-vaxxer sheriff's deputy dies from COVID-19 complications shortly after mocking the vaccine on Facebook
Daniel 'Duke' Trujillo, 33, died on Wednesday from COVID-19 complications.

The Denver Sheriff's deputy had shared a string of anti-vax posts just weeks before his death, MailOnline reported.

"I have an immune system," read one of his Facebook posts.

See more stories on Insider's business page.

A Colorado sheriff's deputy died from COVID-19 complications shortly after sharing a string of anti-vaccination posts on his social media, according to MailOnline.

http://www.yahoo.com/news/anti-vaxxer-sheriffs-deputy-dies-120803899.html   

Fathertime!   

[Trenchcoat]

You never actually listen to anything. You're like a dude with 2 mouths and no ears. At some point, I don't know when but at some point you'll realize that they are lying to you. None of the figures of covid from the beginning have been true or accurate, what makes you think they are now? All viruses mutate and have variants and none of them worse to humans than the original. They're lying to you Trench but I do understand why you fall for it much like you do with your own fantasies about women

I don't think it is the government's or whoever's intention to lie, not at this stage on this, early on I think they misled or said statements when they didn't know themselves. There's no absolute accuracy to the figures of course they are just an indication but something to get an idea by is better than nothing. I don't think this virus is going to go away overnight so I was content enough going for the AZ Vaccine, I've got my second jab of it next week. I think Fathertime's post is right that it's too late finding your immune system is not up to it if you get it. He is probably right also in getting tested to see if he has had it first probably something I should have done but odds are I hadn't as I've been pretty careful and taken precautions.