I search the man of my dream

[sensuality]

Hi, Cheers.

Thanks for your words. I don't worry about Elen. Only for me so strange that woman is so inetersting in my photo. And if you are single, you can write me and may be..... who knows??? I don't look at age. In my case I think that man is ready to have family only after 40. Very seldom when young man can be good husband.

[Elen]

Well I'm tired to explain in 1000s time why but shall do that for you once more

 Spring is very busy time for our family . I have a lot of work at computer and Internet is a good thing to take a break from it:P   And while I'm spending time here my husband is busy with his part of our family business.  Other is not a business of yours.

Satisfied , young girl?


 

PS BTW what do you call "bad-tempered letters" I wrote noting to you 

[jb]

Oh My God~!
I think that was directed to me..... I signed my post "Cheers".

My dear Sensuality, hi~!

No, I am not single.  I was defending you, I thought people were being too hard on you and not being understanding of your goal to find your own true happy life.  After all, it is the job of all men to defend any woman, is it not?

However, I would like to introduce you to a friend of mine who needs to find a good woman, I think you might like him.  He is very good looking, well set up, very manly and tall, very smart and clever, with a good higher education, and not greedy, he loves children.  He has been mistreated in the past by a greedy woman, so he needs a good woman to show him what true happiness can be.  I will ask him to contact you by e-mail if you wish to get to know my friend. Just let me know if it is your wish.

[OhioGuyRob]

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If you have read my other posts, you know that I dont believe writing before visiting makes much sense imho. I think visiting and meeting people is a better way... just my 2cents
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Yet, great 2cents... don't write to RW... buy address, take a plane, and visit her...

Who are you ? the owner of a plane compagny... :P:D

Nope - he will buy 100 addresses and visit them all at once. [/quote]
 

Why buy an address when you can go to a city like Kiev, St Pete, Moscow, Odessa ect and go directly to the local agency and arrange to meet people on coffee/juice introductions and see who you have interested in and they you?   This is no different than how a lot of people meet in the US and Europe via "speed dating"

 

[jb]

Why buy an address? Indeed......

Frankly, the more I know about this process, the more I'd endorse a plan such as this.  The thing most average "Joe-SixPac" American men don't understand is that there are litterally thousands of really outstanding women, both looks wise, and personality wise, hungering for someone to make them just a little bit happy.  They don't want the moon, they just want a little happiness.  Most American men are so brainwashed they can't deal with a woman who simply wants to be a woman.  The FSU, both Russia and the Ukraine, is truly a gold mine.

Let me put it bluntly: If you can't find a really great wife in a month in the FSU, you are the one who couldn't get laid in a cat house with a suit case full of $20's.  

Truly, there are some great women everywhere, but I'd look in Russia or Ukriane first.

[Photo Guy]

Sensuality,
It is very easy to judge your photo and ad-profile. Unfortunately, that's often all we have to go by, before contact is made. So which profile should we choose?

Your photo gave me the impression that you are offering your body as a fast ticket to a relationship, but I'm living in a puritanical U.S..
In your photo, your face looks tense, but your pose looks like a staged  strip-tease. Your profile seems perfectly composed, almost too perfect. I don't know if you know what I mean. Many of us thought your post was fake. I apologize for that. I'm telling you this to let you know how your post affected me.

The best thing you can do is write more about yourself here, so single guys can get a close look at your thoughts and personality. Then you will be much more than a perfectly-posed profile.  Doug

[jb]

PhotoGuy,

You are too late, I've already turned a couple of guys on to this lady.  Based on the PM's I've had with this girl I'm convinced she's the real deal, just a real girl looking for a real man for a lifetime.  She's not looking for a 6 month marriage with a pre-nupt payday at the end.

[Photo Guy]

Cool. She came out and communicated -and that got her connected.
Best of luck to her and anyone else searching for a connection of a lifetime.  Doug

[Elen]

Based on the PM's I've had with this girl I'm convinced she's the real deal, just a real girl looking for a real man for a lifetime. She's not looking for a 6 month marriage with a pre-nupt payday at the end.

Great

and now let put that method in your "stones" - make  estimation about true motivation of girl by few PMs with her

[Photo Guy]

Elen,     Beautifully ironic, as usual.
Correct-  jb's few PMs are valid/insightful, but my months of emails are
dismissed by him.  Interesting.   Doug

[jb]

Correct- jb's few PMs are valid/insightful, but my months of emails are dismissed by him. Interesting. Doug

Doug, you don't share a common language with this woman, how can your emails be considered valid?  "Senuality", Marina, speaks, reads and writes English, there is a difference.  Can you not see that?

[jb]

Great. And now let put that method in your "stones" - make  estimation about true motivation of girl by few PMs with her

Huh?? what are you trying to say? Are you trying to say she's a scammer? Saying,"your stones", has left me bewildered.  I know most of the Russian myths and proverbs, but I don't know about "stones".  Please elaborate.

[Elen]

I'm trying to say that in my mind such photo with such "body language" should put a doubt in sinserity of word wrote in profile (with a help of professional translator from agency BTW) Also such words slipped by herself like "if you want something from men..." , " I don't look at age..." and a fact that she is from Kyrgyztan where things are 10 times worse that even in Ukraine raise thoughts rather about green card but not about scamming in my mind.

Though only future may clear up who was wrong and who was right ( I mean a day after somebody would get green card;)) Till that it's only personal opinions. Every body has a right to have them. As for me I would not give "recomedations" to my friend in this particular case.

 But actually she is до фонаря мне (like we say here) I just  wodered about males' defferent reaction at Photoguys' "province" girl ( nothing offenced)  and at that "sensuality"

As for "stones"  than there is nothing "Special" in that word  I just don't remember pricely how you call those rules for behaviour with girls at long distance dates.

[jb]

Elen,

Krgyztan is off the trodden path, I see nothing wrong with a little hoopla to attract attention.  Kyrgyztan is also under going a "cultural" re-adjustment, ethnic Russians are the under class, the unwanted, those who should relocate.  You may not like the idea that discrimination is a thing to deal with, but I think, Marina,,,(aka)"Sensuality", is keenly aware of the facts of life in Kyrgyztan.

Don't be so hard on the sister, if you met her in a coffee shop you'd probably like her, she's a nice gal.

[Elen]

I'm perfectly aware how things are bad with minorities in our former republics/ And if desperation is a prove of sincerity for you in marriage business then let it be so. <shrug>

(PS She would not pass "face control" at entrance  in such dressing to coffee shops where I пo to:P Besides I don't like to deal with people whose the only one arguments are a-la "сам дурак"  )

[jb]

Elen,

You are a hard woman.  What would it take to make a friend with you?  Are you so hard that only a g/f from high school is allowed to your inner circle?

My wife used to be like this, but she discovered the internet and now she chats with folks from all over the world.  I'd suggest you expand your friendship circle.

Folks from Russian Krgyztan are not much different from you, they just want to be happy.

[Elen]

belive me or not I do have friends in reality ( not many but it could not be too many friends)  and they are not all from "high Universities" (though the majority of them is from my and my hasband's Univ.'s times)

 Many of my female friends aslo have not such "honey" love here. Just only no body of them has a wish to put their photos for a "market" in order to solve their problems. ( I should confess I tried to invte them here but failed :? As it appeared they all have even more "hard" opinion at all thes business than I have)

 

What would it take to make a friend with you?

Only a time to know me in reality;) (where actions mean more than words)

 

My wife used to be like this, but she discovered the internet and now she chats with folks from all over the world I'd suggest you expand your friendship circle.

don't worry about my internet circle for chatting You just have not idea how wide it is:D (though you could guess about that by my abbility to produce almost 1000 posts:P)

Beside Russian put another meaning in word "friendship" Therefore we have not many friends and those who we can find in the Net we name with another words but not friends.

 

[Photo Guy]

Correct- jb's few PMs are valid/insightful, but my months of emails are dismissed by him. Interesting. Doug

Doug, you don't share a common language with this woman, how can your emails be considered valid?  "Senuality", Marina, speaks, reads and writes English, there is a difference.  Can you not see that?[/quote]

What? You mean emails are valid, unless they are translated?
Emails that are translated are not valid? Really?  
I could be wrong, but that seems ridiculous.   Doug

[BC]

Doug,

My wife spoke english very well when we met, but even still it took a while to get to the point that we were truly communicating on the same level and understanding each other perfectly. Language can be a minefield.

I personally would not have the face to face time needed to begin at ground zero and certainly would not marry someone with whom I cannot fully exchange values, desires and goals.

Yes I am sure it can be done as someone will surely chip in, but for me communicating is the most fundamental and important part of a relationship.  I would never cut corners here.

In many aspects most here including myself have 'pushed the envelope' but there were other factors that made the envelope hold together.

You have a lot going against you as I see it.. First international experience, first girl, little communicative ability, little time to invest face to face, etc.. Start adding up the positive aspects going for you in this relationship..

Enjoy luck, but don't count on it.

Sensualities' language skills are indeed a part of her beauty.

[sensuality]

Hi jb.

Thanks that you said about me warm words. When I have read words from Elen I only laughed. So funny to read what she thinks about Kyrgyzstan. We had at March some bad political days. But I know that when you see this on TV then It's more bad then in real time. Life is ok in my country. Nobody will kill you on streets when you'll go at your work . And now I am sure that Elen think if she is from Moscow then she is better. But may be she is not from Moscow:?. Who knows?:? And why this woman is affraid to show here face???? Now she can only speack about my country and my photo. If she is so nice and the best then let's she shows her face us. What do you think about this jb?

[Elen]

And now I am sure that Elen think if she is from Moscow then she is better 

Be sure for only one thing - I don't compare you with myself. We are from parallel universities in all meaning not only due to location

But may be she is not from Moscow:?. Who knows?:? 

Indeed Who does know?? And why does it matter where I'm from as I'm not going to invite any body to anywhere:D

And why this woman is affraid to show here face???? Now she can only speack about my country and my photo.

What's wrong to speak about your country wich is at one of the last places in FSU at life level? Is that big secret or do you think people don't watch TV there?

As for my face then I'm NOT at market , not at podium and I'm not a streetwalker for my face would mean something

What do you think about that , JB;)

[sensuality]

Elen, why are there so much poison in your words?  I think it's only your mask. In your heart you are tender woman but anything makes you so angry. I don't know you in person but people like you they are only try to  protect thierself from anything. But from what?

[Elen]

Look You came here to find a man, didn't you?

So let return to that your task and don't waste time at me. That would not lead to any good for you (as for me I don't care. But you do)

[sensuality]

I don't spend my time at you. Only My trade is connected to psychology and for me simply interestingly to observe of your ideas

[Vaughn]

Marina,

  I bet jb's going to blush with all your attention. It's quite interesting how various folks perceive your photo, the pose, the style of dress. Believe it or not, Elen does very much have a tender side. You wrote:

I think it's only your mask.

Very true. I see Elen's beauty in her persuasiveness and enthusiasm...

  I hope you meet an honest and upstanding man.

Vaughn